New thread but just a short comic to start things off. I’ve been meaning to post this weird comic for a while. Another gender bending transformation comic but it’s not NSFW. Still, the art’s good and it’s interesting to see. This is Emerald Chaos!
>>453678 And that's it. There seems to be a handful of pages left but they're paywalled and it takes a while for the artist to make these freely available for everyone to see.
As for the Archie thread on /co/, it'll be helpful if we get it to bump limit before 5pm EST, that way it'll get a couple hours to archive. I like how the slower threads allow us to better control how long it's on there.
>tfw fetish comic understands Eggman more than most fans who think him caring about his creations than tools is actually good for the character, i.e Sage Bruh
So much stuff on one page! Enter Ruby Brutus! To explain the design choice, Brutus learned from his defeat at the energy blade of Sally and covered that mouth of his. Speaking of energy blade, looks like he copied the princess. Then there’s the color change. Very fashionable! And last but not least, the Phantom Ruby belt buckle. Also fasionable! And now we know what Eggman has wanted the entire time he was on Little Planet. Thanks to the Phantom Ruby, the Death Egg has become a reality! And the other crazy thing is what happened to Eggman. Mirroring what he had Brutus do to himself a couple issues ago, the good doctor loses his hand. Not sure if he can reattach his like Brutus could. In the SatAM cartoon and Archie comics, Robotnik (not Eggman) had a robotic arm. I didn’t want to go that far. But why have this happen to Eggman? Because everyone deserves to suffer. Even the villains. At least that wound is cauterized!
>>453670 This is an outrage! >>453672 That is a cute outfit. If Tails didn't grow breasts I totally would >>453674 Another boy Amy for the collection! >>453678 Human Eggmam looks pretty cute >>453679 Oh boy, more to look forward to!
>>453691 That's our Sonic! >>453699 Bravo Ian! >>453707 I really fucking hate this comic >>453708 Brutus is channeling some Shredder vibes with that mask, also loved the callback to the arm chop >>453710 It's quite the conundrum for our special friend. Does he shit up our threads and make them archive for us, or does help keep them alive for as long as possible to try and kill our next one? He's helpingu s either way! >>453715 >I still can't get over Shadow's pants. The whole outfit feels awkward on him >>453716 Oh the things I'd do to this twink!
>>453717 >It's quite the conundrum for our special friend. Does he shit up our threads and make them archive for us, or does help keep them alive for as long as possible to try and kill our next one? He's helpingu s either way! I'm also more than fine with /sthg/ getting linked to our thread. I was expecting more people getting in there but maybe later.
>>453718 Yeah, I'm guessing many of them would like a chill place to talk about Sonic >>453720 Oh man, I hope they lean into the edge for this one. Imagine the two of them battling it out to some Linkin Park track!
>>453725 Looks like it released too early, they're still ironing out some bugs https://mb.srb2.org/threads/the-chaotix.39839/ >>453726 Huh, that's an interesting way to do it. And here I am struggling to cut things back to one issue per game! The idea of a Knuckles-centric Sonic Adventure adaption sounds awesome though!
>>453728 >Huh, that's an interesting way to do it. And here I am struggling to cut things back to one issue per game! The idea of a Knuckles-centric Sonic Adventure adaption sounds awesome though! Poor Knuckles. A whole thing about the history of his people and Sonic takes care of it all. >>453729 >Hope you're prepared for the hassle of that. I'm cutting a lot of stuff. It might even be three issues. Plenty of time to figure it all out.
>>453730 >LMAO There's just something genuinely sickening about it, especially since Boom's the comfiest continuity >>453731 I'm starting to regret joking about keeping twinks in my basement >>453732 >Poor Knuckles. A whole thing about the history of his people and Sonic takes care of it all. Yeah, easily the worst part of the plot. That and we ultimately only find out about his People's past, but not his own. Did he have parents or has he been around since Tikal's time? How can he speak modern English/Mobian/Japanese? Did he or his parents interact with Gerald? Of course Frontiers raises further questions since the Chaos Emeralds were created by aliens but the Master Emerald was always on Earth/Mobius, despite its entire purpose being a failsafe for when someone abuses the emeralds.
https://twitter.com/SChauvel/status/1715844021296238991 >Since I'll be working on finally finishing "The G.U.N. Project" ('cause I'm a stubborn fool), I wanted to let new followers know that you can find parts 1-3 of my fan comic the public art archive too!
>>453764 >>453764 I dont get him. Yes, the comic has flaws and reasons to dislike it. But as its found out, started shitposting to the extreme on threads over it, and even still ocasionally checks threads he hates on the current ride. Like what causes someone to do that man. just ignore it
>>453766 He's been shitting up the Unofficial Ride for almost two years. He's a janny that works with ABIB to screw over our threads. Now that I know who the mod is, I know that ABIB was the one that autosaged all the Sonic threads one night.
>>453767 Those two need to meet up IRL to hook up immediately. They desperately need something more worthwhile in their lives than constantly harrassing people for liking a cartoon hedgehog.
>>453767 >I know that ABIB was the one that autosaged all the Sonic threads one night. Yeah, that was definitely him. Hilarious to think a dude in his 40s was so salty over the Sonic movies. I'd say I can't believe he wasn't fired for that, but it's pretty obvious rapeape likes his site to be a shithole. I can't wait to be done with that place >>453768 I did have chatGPT write some fanfiction about them here: >>452863 >>453769 I've been banned a few times for linking to this post where IDWkun outs himself as a janny: >>>/4chan/vg/414242537
>>453771 >Yeah, that was definitely him. Hilarious to think a dude in his 40s was so salty over the Sonic movies. I'd say I can't believe he wasn't fired for that, but it's pretty obvious rapeape likes his site to be a shithole. I can't wait to be done with that place Even worse when you realize that the board is still suffering from Digital Circus spam and yet threads complaining about it are deleted. And the threads for the Spider-Man 2 game are unsurprisingly bad and numerous as well.
>>453773 >and the threads for the Spider-Man 2 game are unsurprisingly bad and numerous as well. Can you really blame people for hating miles tho? He is pretty shit yet pushed and from I've seen the story is kinda mid.
>>453772 Yeah, I wouldn't directly accuse him of being a janny unless you want banned. Technically jannies can only delete your posts, but they can also request bans from mods and he has ABIB for that >>453773 Classic rules for thee but not for me. I do find it interesting they're so quick to delete those posts but seem fine leaving up threads with lewd art of clearly underage females. Makes you think! >>453775 And yet we're the ones that get in trouble for talking about comics (and occasionally cartoons) on a comics and cartoons board!
>>453777 When the Spider-Man Miles Morales game came out, /co/ had several threads complaining about Miles everyday. If anons hate Miles so much, maybe not make and post in all the threads about him? Imagine a dozen IDW Sonic threads.
>>453782 The way things are now is fine. We have a constant thread here that we don't have to worry about dying or getting stuff deleted for no reason. And the Archie threads can last a while and sometimes even right up until it's time for a new thread.
>>453779 >Imagine a dozen IDW Sonic threads. I'd rather not! >>453781 We've put in a massive amount of work over the last two years trying to make a fun place for anons to enjoy Sonic comics and the mods and jannies have been nothing but hostile. I'll stick around for he Archie threads, but I'm out once we have our own board here. I might still do the occasional storytime over there, but only to attract more people over here >>453791 When you think about it, our special friend's put in all this effort only for us to go back to business as usual. Also, he has to read every single Archie issue if he's to properly shit up the threads!
Sonic and the Freedom Fighters Note Because of the differences in the setting and the origin of humans, Sonic Adventure 2’s plot will be changed. That shouldn’t come as a surprise but this is more about Gerald Robotnik and his intentions. His journal will be detailed over the many weeks. From tragedy to tragedy, his quest to cure Maria will come to an unexpected end. Can’t reveal too much. There’s one big reveal that I would like to save for the comic.
>>453795 I think we all know what the best outfit is! >>453797 Oh my! Would appreciate it if you'd name the artists. I'm pretty lazy so I just make sure they're in the filenames >>453800 I'd forgotten about that one. Another fine addition to my RSS feed collection! >>453801 Oh man, Gerald's one of the most interesting and tragic characters in the entire franchise. He's canonically the smartest character by a huge margin, but was still betrayed by GUN. Personally, I'm planning on having him go on archeology adventures with Bernie and Jules, who will be dressed like Lara Croft and Indiana Jones (or they will be once I can work out how to turn hedgehog spikes into a braid). Technically it's an origin story for Knuckles' hat!
>>453802 >Oh man, Gerald's one of the most interesting and tragic characters in the entire franchise. He's canonically the smartest character by a huge margin, but was still betrayed by GUN. I'm wondering how much more tragic I should make it. I'll send you the notes I have for now but I plan on adding more and changing things.
>>453803 Huh. That's a good way to avoid superpowered infants >>453805 I'll answer over there (those are some pretty big spoilers) but that all sounds really cool! And of course, it's tradition for me to mention Grifone in spoiler tags
>>453771 >I'd say I can't believe he wasn't fired for that, but it's pretty obvious rapeape likes his site to be a shithole. Hateful engagement is still engagement. The type of assholes that have shat up even the blue boards to this degree are also the types to fall for the weird advertisements 4chan manages to get.
>>453773 I fucking hate that any and all talk about indie animation has been completely fucking ruined on /co/. Digital Circus is fun! And so is most every other indie show up on YouTube, but even though it's currently flooding the board you can't actually talk about it in earnest, because people only care about shitposting and "sticking it" to the usual boogeymen (Vivziepop, Lackadaisy, etc.).
It's the exact same kind of non-commital, irony-poisoned discussion you see on Twitter, minus the added bonus of directly tormenting whatever poor bastard is the target of people's obsession. Say what you will about Tumblr, but they got the best Twitter refugees, 4chan got stuck with the dogshit.
>>453807 >the weird advertisements 4chan manages to get I shudder to think. I haven't used a computer without adblock for a decade and I get genuinely startled whenever I have to use a computer without it
>indie animation I totally agree about so many on 4/co/ being irony-poisoned sad sacks. My guess is they hate indie animation (and comics) because they show that with enough work anyone could make something that people want to watch, even if the audience isn't huge. Still, we all know it's way cooler to sit on the sidelines and shitpost. Imagine if word got out an anonymous poster on an imageboard actually liked something, the horror! The people flooding the board generally do it to poison the well so whenever someone tries to have a proper discussion, they can just complain about it being another shitpost thread. The mods allow it and delete the complaint threads because they're just ascended shitposters and schizos themselves. Absolute crab-bucket mentality
>Digital Circus I've not seen it yet but I'll have to give it a watch.
>Vivziepop, Lackadaisy I actually liked Helluva Boss and her Zoophobia comic, but have been putting off Lackadaisy until it finishes since the updates are slow
>Say what you will about Tumblr, but they got the best Twitter refugees, 4chan got stuck with the dogshit. And InkBunny got all of the degenerates! Seriously though, I can see why so many are sick of Twitter. It's pretty much geared for delivering "witty" one-liners without ever having to actually converse with someone. Personally, I only have an account to archive artwork and I won't even need that once the head twit starts charging for access and all the artists leave
Since people were asking, here's the link to the two megas I use for the comics, artist archives, and Archie. They're in base64, but you can convert them at https://www.base64decode.org
>>453782 i just mostly stay away from /co/ outside of the archie threads. i don't go to /v/ or /vg/ either cause there's nothing there for me except twitter garbage. there's some other fringes that're untouched but video games aren't one of them unfortunately >>453808 >Personally, I only have an account to archive artwork i have one but i don't use it at all.
>>453811 Oh my, those grippers are so sharp! >>453813 So stylish! >>453814 Yeah, the Sally and Tails-centric issues tend to get much more engagement >>453815 I mostly just hang around our threads, the Tamers threads and the webcomics general on /lgbt/
Original Ride update: I've got the 4/co/ archive successfully exported and have started looking through the threads and they're there! Next is to narrow things down to just those threads. I'll look into 4/v/ after that's finished processing, which was the absolute original Ride. We're getting there! Here's the link to the first ever Ride thread on 4/co/: >>>/4chan/co/44639524
>>453777 >Well, it is a game based on a comic so it gets to be in there I have seen Horrorfag use this exact same argument to justify having dozens of capeshit threads but treat a single ontopic thread for unfiction as being a threat to the board. It is retarded and just an excuse for the mods to get rid of shit they don't like.
>>453823 The original Ride on /v/ is where /sthg/ originated, back when the mods weren't garbage and ABIB was never amongst their number. Make of that what you will.
Funny to see even on the first ride thread, the old conductor comments on things. That one anon in our threads seething at our sexy conductor for commenting would seethe too at it.
>>453823 It's been on and off, and by different conductors, but yeah. The original 4/v/ ride is actually older, but it'll be another day before my database processes the files (I keep breaking things because I am not good at databases ;_;) >>453824 Because pumpkins don't wear shoes! >>453826 Thanks! >>453827 >just an excuse for the mods to get rid of shit they don't like Pretty sure that's why they signed up in the first place. Sad!
>>453829 >it's 2013 and there's a Sonic storytime on 4/co/ >conductor's making comments and interacting with anons >comments are welcome during the storytime >anons are mostly well behaved, and some are filling others in on obscure Sonic lore >later on OC art and memes are made >people involved in the comics drop in to say hi And yet our threads are the ones being harassed. Frankly it's our board and always has been
>>453835 Not from that site, but if they've ever been uploaded to 4chan anytime after 2015 I'll be able to find them using their image hash. There's also a heap of images that go with the archive dumps I'm using, but they're hundreds of GB so it'll take a while if I use those.
>>453837 Thinking about it, you know what I dont understand? Why do Dark gaia monsters look completely different than it? It's really jarring and kinda shit design.
>>453838 They look a bit like the incomplete Dark Gaia in that they're all dark and wispy with glowing parts. They look nothing like Perfect Dark Gaia though. I don't see it mentioned often, but the four (non Eggman mech) bosses have different elements: >Dark Gaia Phoenix - Fire >Dark Moray - Ice >Dark Guardian - Lightning >Dark Gaia - Earth (lol)
>>453832 4chan has always been a Sknic website. The only reason ABIB and Pixy haven't been beaten to death by randos finding where they live is because everyone mostly doesn't care about them trying to piss away the ocean.
Note that they never dare to fuck with the Tamers threads at any point.
>>453832 Commenting on everything is fun and replying to others helps get them more into the threads and build that sense of community. The other conductors have done stuff. The second Archie Conductor last Ride commented and had a lot of music tracks. The Fleetway Conductor gave info for who worked on the stories and various other trivia. Even the Mega Man Conductor who had their own threads while the Archie Ride was going had fun with the Super Genesis Wave and used it to transition to other Mega Man comics. I personally find storytime threads better when the OP interacts more and not just posts pages in silence.
>>453843 >The Fleetway Conductor gave info for who worked on the stories and various other trivia That was actually someone else who did that. I’m easily the lamest conductor :( , I couldn’t comment much like everyone else. I don’t know how you can do it.
>>453846 It’s fine. Reading the STC Credits anons posts in the threads was cool. I know my ride in particular has a bit of a reputation for being quite rowdy and toxic, and admittedly, it was sometimes but I tried not to say anything. Even then, it was really fun to read posts from the riders.
>>453847 The important thing is that you posted those comics for everyone to read either again or for the first time. It's not like all Sonic threads are devoid of weird shit. Not even counting the schizo, we've had some weird discussions like with Mina and Ash. The highlight of the STC threads were the ideas of mixing Fleetway with Archie.
>>453848 You’re right. It’s a good feeling to have people read something like STC >The highlight of the STC threads were the ideas of mixing Fleetway with Archie. That was fun, although again, some readers got real cranky at Okida doing that, especially with Sally being a FF. They even accused him of being American when he was a Brit! Crazy times
Creative Abandoned: Why Sonic Has So Many Bad Games (The Jimquisition) >didn't like sonic unleashed, hated sonic colors, hated sonic frontiers >liked sonic lost world >really liked sonic superstars but hated the bosses >we couldn't even get a sonic mania 2 >sonic games are bad because they keep trying to reinvent themselves instead of building off of what worked >basically the series needs more sequels >mario has been doing it better for decades >mario wonder takes what has worked before added crazy mechanics to it and are just better at designing games >no matter what sonic game you liked, you would admit that a sequel instead of something completely different would be better >the best thing sega can do is make a sequel to frontiers because it's commercially and critically successful and its issues can be fixed and things that people liked can be added to I don't care for Sterling's videos as much as I used to because her videos had too much filler and were repetitious so I got less out of watching them but this one is relevant and I do agree that Sonic Team needs to stop ripping off a different Nintendo game ever 5 years. >>453849 People were pretty open to Lanolin when they thought she was going to be like Sally. Things only soured with the latest story. >>453850 The Okida hate was disappointing but funny in hindsight. Glad his comic got a fair reception during the Unofficial Ride. And I'll have to post this even though the artist later apologized for it.
>>453852 well i have seen a lot of hate of her being like sally but with that latest story, seems it soured because she dared from her perspective, interpret the others actions as crazy
>>453852 Sterling is right on the issue of cribbing from Nintendo, but literally all the common fodder (and SoJ) are going to do is look at the title then mindlessly slam all Sonic games/media, which is the exact shit that happened with 06 and was what got Sonic's friends perma-benched until Final Horizon. You cannot expect your average person in this day and age to be reasonably objective, so all this will do is help start a new cycle of retardation.
>>453861 The Sonic fanbase is weird but it'll eat up almost anything despite their complaints. All Sega has to do is put out good games and stop abandoning what works and pretending it doesn't exist. Sega reacts to negativity and not positivity. So they'll try to fix a problem, go too far, and then ditch the stuff people liked.
>Sonic fans: WHY IS EVERYONE SO MEAN TO SONIC?! >meanwhile sonic team consistently shits out mid to shit games for over a decade Hmm I wonder why.. but seriously, i can’t believe sonic fans will say that and completely ignore all the valid reasons why a reasonable person would hate sonic
Isakai Cover and Page 1 https://www.deviantart.com/hattonslayden I'm currently not in the mood to hold on to new comics so I'll post new stuff now and over time do them again on the new board.
>>453866 That still seems like an irrational reason to hate Sonic. I mean I get bad games are bad and all, but to point to them as a reason to hate the franchise or a character specifically seems kinda dumb. Pokemon games have been trash lately but I don’t hate Pikachu for it.
>>453875 Pokemon is way bigger than Sonic so it can get away with a lot of shit but going back to just Sonic, imo, it's not irrational to dislike Sonic when the output has been consistently shit with so many duds over the years So I think the public had a good enough reason to make fun of Sonic for that shit. But a lot of Sonic fans just can't seem to understand that,
>>453876 Just because it's a bigger franchise it doesn't mean it should be allowed to get away with worse. Sonic games are bad/mediocre on average, but bad Pokemon games are much more hostile to their playerbase.
And yes it's irrational to hate a franchise just because of the games, in part because the Sonic franchise is not just games anymore, but mostly because nobody's forcing you to engage with the series. Nobody's preventing the general public from disliking the games, if anything voicing enjoyment of them is what gets you flak. Contrast that with, again, Pokemon, where criticism of the games nets you mostly negative reception.
>>453841 Yeah, we've been able to get away with a lot in the Tamers threads >>453843 I really do enjoy it when the interaction's there, which is why I add comments to my storytimes. It'll be interesting to see how each of the conductors handled things once the threads are archived >>453844 Awww, your Ride was still fun! It definitely got heated towards the end, but it was still enjoyable >>453845 lmao >>453851 Scourge is back! Kinda! >>453852 >didn't like sonic unleashed, hated sonic colors, hated sonic frontiers Unleashed and Frontiers were good, and Colors was bland ubt inoffensive >liked sonic lost world Madness, although the 3ds version is a lot of fun >really liked sonic superstars but hated the bosses Still haven't played it >we couldn't even get a sonic mania 2 Maybe if they payed the devs what they're worth they wouldn't be busy with their own IP >sonic games are bad because they keep trying to reinvent themselves instead of building off of what worked 100% agree there, even the best games get their mechanics refined in the sequels >mario has been doing it better for decades Mario's been pinching Sega's best devs since Unleashed >mario wonder takes what has worked before added crazy mechanics to it and are just better at designing games Mario's always been about slow iteration, with generally little innovation between games. They're well polished, but it comes at the expense of innovation >no matter what sonic game you liked, you would admit that a sequel instead of something completely different would be better 100% agree >the best thing sega can do is make a sequel to frontiers because it's commercially and critically successful and its issues can be fixed and things that people liked can be added to That's actually what they're doing, and are even beta testing the other playable characters in Frontiers >>453856 Such a cute couple! Also, check out the mix of Humans and Mobians in the crowd! >>453857 Sigh >>453865 >it'll eat up almost anything despite their complaints It's true. If we were more picky Sega probably would've given Sonic Team more resources. Sega-Sammy's loaded with pachinko/ Yakuza(the game and the actual) money. They just pissed away 100's of millions on some Overwatch clone they won't even release
>>453878 Well I wasn't saying Pokemon couldnt be criticized, was just saying because of how big and influential it is. It literally can get away with it because of how rabid its fans can be with any bad thing being called out
>>453872 Couldn't agree more. That's what makes KrazyELF's sfw comics so fun! >>453873 lmao, that guy's stuff's always so much fun! >>453878 Pokémon hasn't ever put out a bug-free game, which is hilarious considering how little innovation they have between games. They don't even keep new features! I haven't played anything after XY since they dropped the twink dress-up simulator
Sonic and the Freedom Fighters Note For a spoilery reason I will not divulge, I was thinking of not including IDW characters. But I decided to include them anyway.
>>453884 I kind of know what to do with Whisper at least at first. Tangle? I don't know. >>453885 >I can't wait for best boys Rough and Tumble! I suppose I should fit them in somewhere.
>>453886 >I suppose I should fit them in somewhere. Might I suggest a several hundred page doujin for them? Failing that, you could have them being disruptive in some crowd shots >>453887 Dramatic!
>>453882 >They don't even keep new features! Granted, Sonic does that too, but Pokemon is so oddly mean about it. Gen 6 introduced Megas as the culmination of a trainer and mon's bond, then Gen 7 went "megas are horrific abusive transformations that turn pokemon into bloodthirsty monsters, the REAL bond is through Z moves!".
>>453913 >Granted, Sonic does that too, but Pokemon is so oddly mean about it. Yeah, but Sonic at least has the excuse of trying to reinvent itself almost every game. Not that I'm happy with that either! I loved the mega evolutions and their reason for removing them was absolute bullshit. All I want is for a game where I can catch cool Pokémon and beat the game with them without having to have any non-cool ones on the team. That and to have some light Animal Crossing gameplay where you decorate your house and dress-up your character.
>>453821 That's the /v/ archive processed, and it only took a day on a high performance workstation. I fucking hate mysql! Anyway, this is (probably) the very first Sonic Ride thread on /v/, all the way back from April 2012. Fun fact: Mods deleted it >>>/4chan/v/136245136
>>453939 >>>>/4chan/v/136245136 On further inspection, you're right. That means there's at least two of these creations out there, lurking in the shadows and biding their time
I know sally does from the threads does get unfairly shit on for her actions, but to be fair, what are some things she does in the comic would you say actually does deserve criticismin your opinion.
>>453946 Expecting Sonic to retire from being a hero and incidently the "slap", though that one can be more blmaed on the writer than the character. To be fair, I can see how, after years of seeing all of her friends's lives at stake, because of mission she often send them to in the first place, she would want to finally hit the pause button and no longer having to deal with that kind of anxiety. But Sonic gotta Sonic.
>>453915 >>453954 Incidentally, info from the author: the diademma transmit Sonic's memories to the robot chronologically, so I assume it's from the earliest to the latest memory, but it's taking a long time to do so.
>>453915 I shouldn't mock, but >check the comments >"This comic ain't for me I guess" >check the account >check favorites >see pic attached AH!
Well, maybe I am being unfair, after all it's valid to not like this story for its kidnapping and potential gaslighting of this poor sweet hedgehog, plus the character assassination. Entirely justified. But I can't help but think that for someone who would do a quick read-through, this is the first time you really can't miss the existence of Sally in this comic and that's when he considers this comic is not for them?
Bah, I am probably badmouthing and they only just discovered this comic today through the suggestions with this page.
Still, would be hilarious if, after all the ways Amy is acting in this story, it's the Clear manifestation of Sally that ended up being the actual turn-off.
>>453956 Someone posted on my comic, asking if it's Sonally and complaining about it. I've seen Sally hate art and people commenting with a paragraph of why they hate Sally. There are so many edits of Sonic and Sally from the Archie comics but Sally is edited and replaced with Amy (or Shadow). I just chock it up to some people hating a ship and not wanting it to exist. A selfish and petty mindset. I've seen the same kind of reception for other ships. Some artists on twix have complained about people leaving comments like "hate this ship but nice art" and the such. Shipping is serious business for some people.
>>453959 Normal shipping is fine. Nothing wrong with liking a couple. It's just when it's taken too far that it's a problem. And I'll also add that Amy gets a lot of shit as well. Sonamy being the most popular straight ship in Sonic gets it and Amy quite a bit of hate as well. Of course that's mostly because of people's other ship for Sonic.
So today's thread is one Sonic issue, Sonic Live, and then the other Sonic issue. But I kind of want to start with Sonic Live for the meme factor. But there's a backup story that's part of a backup story in the issue before it. I could take that backup story out and place it after part one of the story.
>>453962 >Wait do we really have to? We have to do everything. Otherwise I'd let Thirstposter edit out Geoffrey. >>453963 Cursed. That can be posted afterwards.
>>453947 Memes aside, Sally shouldn't be blamed for having an outburst like that. She spent like 1-2 years thinking her partner fucking died, during that period she broke down enough to sacrifice her wishes and resignate herself to the throne, and then out of nowhere Sonic returns, and IMMEDIATELY tries to get back at the same bullshit that "killed" him and doesn't even bother to familiarize himself with Sally's own precarious situation.
>>453956 To be fair Galaxia tags the comic with the sonamy tag. It could be that that person was browsing the tag for more ship content, stumbled across the latest pages and read the comic from there.
Sonic and the Freedom Fighters Note Knuckles isn’t the strongest but he still has super strength. What he has in addition is a seemingly endless supply of stamina and can take more punishment than anyone else. He’s the kind of person to keep fighting even after he loses consciousness.
>>453970 Knuckles has other stuff to balance out not being the strongest character on the planet. He can still beat everyone else in a straight up brawl, including Bark and Mighty. And he is still evenly matched when fighting Sonic.
Learned enough of these edits funny enough from checking those tumblr psychos using it to seethe again, I didnt care to read the posts lol and think they look really good even if reposted from this dumb ass rally 4 sally guys.
Anyways, gonna post the edits and id like to hear if you think this is how sally would act or accurate in your guys opinion
>>453956 I don't even like Sonamy (outside of Boom) and even I'm not enjoying this plot >>453957 >asking if it's Sonally lmao >>453959 People should just be chill with their ships. I like Sonknux, but that doesn't invalidate all the great Sonally ad Sonamy comics we've covered >>453963 It's like one of those creepy AI pics >>453967 Yeah, the slap would've been fine if they'd talked things through in private later >To be fair Galaxia tags the comic with the sonamy tag. I mean, it is Sonamy, just not consensual Sonamy
>>453969 >a seemingly endless supply of stamina and can take more punishment than anyone else Oh my! >>453971 That makes sense, one of the great things about Archie was that Knuckles wasn't just a guy that was really good at punching >>453972 Sally next to extra rounded forgivenic is just too weird
>>453972 For those parts sure. Lanolin starts off acting kind of like Sally but then she stops acting like Sally. The more she was written, the less she's like Sally specifically but like a girlboss character in general. Also these edits are really well done.
>>453982 Lanolin is just a normal girl that decides to join the Resistance and suddenly starts acting like she has the experience. She doesn't. She doesn't get in Sonic's face. She's not ordering everyone around, just has a small team that doesn't hold a candle to the Freedom Fighters. She doesn't have much of a backstory. She's not royalty and doesn't have an obligation to restore her monarchy, kingdom, and find her family. She's part Sally and the stuff she's missing makes her a diluted copy. She doesn't have ties to everyone. No best gal friendship with Bunnie, no AI best girl relationship with Nicole, no reliable friend Rotor, no weird friendship with Antoine. None of that. She's lacking in so much that Sally had from the very start of Archie.
>>453984 There's more to Sally than her personality and looks. A lot of Sonic characters would benefit from having as much backstory and relationships that she has.
>>453985 Exactly! By the time we reach issue #50 in Archie and Fleetway, we've learned a lot about every one of the character's backstories and past interactions, along with the history of their world. In IDW we have yet to meet a single one of the OC's family members and only Whisper has been given a backstory. What actually motivated Tangle and Lanolin to become heroes? What was their past really like and how do they relate to their family? Do they even have a family? The writers made it pretty clear we're not getting any info on Surge and Kit's past lives. We don't even know what the largest city is, and only just found out the cities from Unleashed exist. Even worse, Spagonia appeares to have been abandoned sonce Sega won't let them show humans!
Idw is strange, like I did give it a chance to stand on it's own so I wouldnt get insults for hating just cuz its not archie. but on its own, its lame and mid. shit like the whole metal virus, the imposters, etc is lame. Like it kinda wants to be a comic with world building and stories around the world stuff but its just the games universe so they literally cant. it's just all lame man.
Minor website update: We've just passed over 900k page views! >>453988 That's the problem with hiring Archie alumni and not properly reigning them in. They want to write a comic with worldbuilding and a rich history like they did before but they're just not allowed. If they had just kept the setting small and focused on short-term plots over long-term ones to begin with things would be much better. It wouldn't be anything like Archie, but it never could be anyway.
Frankly I lay the blame squarely on the editor. It's their job to set the tone and pace of a comic and they've massively shit the bed here
>>453989 Penders has higher highs and (much!) lower lows than IDW, but overall I enjoyed his stuff more
>>453990 It's had some great standalone storylines, but its biggest sin is its blandness and story decompression
>>453993 >Frankly I lay the blame squarely on the editor. It's their job to set the tone and pace of a comic and they've massively shit the bed here I blame everyone but I blame Sega more just because of what they won't allow for some reason. I think the restrictions just killed Ian and Evan's enthusiasm and they don't know what to do. And then I blame them. I'd blame the editors third unless I knew their background. They might not have known what would end up happening and would assume Ian and Evan could adapt.
Previous was old so here's a more recentish one. unfortunely for thristposter, being an archie echidna means a lot of people wont ever give him the time of day
>>453997 Stuff like that and the actual quality of the comic makes me never want to read it again. That's why I'm more invested in the movies now a days. It can actually do something different than the usual shit we get with the mixing of stuff and unique lore and they're pretty decent to boot
>>453996 Thanks! Yeah, it's depressingly rare to find art of him ;_; >>453997 SoJ's 100% to blame here, but it's an editor's job to manage the talent and that means setting expectations early on with just how much they can do in the comic. SoJ are obviously capricious little shits that change their minds weekly about the canon, but the editor is supposed to keep on top of these things. Evan should never have been put in the position of rewriting that Shadow story or redrawing the cover. >I think the restrictions just killed Ian and Evan's enthusiasm and they don't know what to do. I don't blame them at all for being disheartened. >I'd blame the editors third unless I knew their background. They might not have known what would end up happening and would assume Ian and Evan could adapt. IMO that's the editor's job. They're here to manage continuity, make sure the talent is communicating with each other to meet deadlines, and liaising with the licensor. They might not have known that would end up happening, but it's their job to make sure it never got that far. From what I understand, the editor's a Sonic fan so he should know what Sega are like. >>453998 Yeah, he's unfortunately one of the more obscure Sonic characters
>>454003 That's our Tails! >>454004 On second reading, that may have come off as a bit harsh. I don't hate the editor or anything, but they probably don't have the experience required to deal with a licensor as hostile as Sega is
>>454004 >Evan should never have been put in the position of rewriting that Shadow story or redrawing the cover. I thought it started off as a story with Shadow, Rouge, and Cream looking for Omega but Sega didn't approve of Shadow working for them so the covers had to be redone and Amy took Shadow's place and Shadow had to meet up with them by coincidence. >IMO that's the editor's job. They're here to manage continuity, make sure the talent is communicating with each other to meet deadlines, and liaising with the licensor. They might not have known that would end up happening, but it's their job to make sure it never got that far. From what I understand, the editor's a Sonic fan so he should know what Sega are like. That is true but I can imagine the nightmare of working with Sega and having an entire story planned out, thinking it's fine, and then finding out you have to make massive changes. I can't imagine a Jim Shooter type being an editor there, having years of work as a writer for the Sonic franchise and knowing what should be done when the Ian and Evan are just spinning their wheels. Maybe as a writer I feel like more blame is on the writer and the editor can only be there to correct stuff unless they're of a high caliber able to spice up bland stories and salvage wasted characters.
>>454006 Shadow is sellout nta but this stuff is kinda weird. Like obvs you cant blame EVERYTHING on le mandates. As the writers are writing it and their job is to make it good. And as you said, stuff like that I think is also due to the burnout. I dont think ian is even the main writer anymore, which is also funny when schizo blame him for shit he didnt even work on.
>>454007 Ian occasionally writes an issue and collaborates with Evan. I don't blame everything on him but I make sure to see who's writing. It is funny when he's not the writer and people in the IDW thread are like IIIIIIIIIIIAN!
>>454008 >It is funny when he's not the writer and people in the IDW thread are like IIIIIIIIIIIAN! Das wat Im saying! Like people are so concentrated on Ian hate they sometimes forget Evan exists. Also, thoughts on her writing for IDW? For me, its meh. I like her art more
>>454009 I think Evan needs a co-writer that's not Ian. She's got it half right but fumbles the execution and details. I want big excitement and an actual story, not throwing everyone at some threat like she did with the Eggperial City thing. Another writer would be like "let's not involve all the other game characters and have Sonic work with the Diamond Cutters all the way through."
>>454010 Eggperial is actually where I really dropped that comic. That arc really sucked. Story might have improved a tiny bit with just a focus on the diamond cutters for sure
>>454006 >I thought it started off as a story with Shadow, Rouge, and Cream looking for Omega but Sega didn't approve of Shadow working for them so the covers had to be redone and Amy took Shadow's place and Shadow had to meet up with them by coincidence. Yeah, that makes sense. I still think they should've had a big list of no-nos from Sega by this point. It was common knowledge that Boom had a heap of mandates on Shadow so a proactive editor would've gotten some notes from Sega before the story was even pitched >I can imagine the nightmare of working with Sega Yeah, there's no way I'd take that position. Frankly if it wasn't for inertia, this comic would only attract the most junior talent >Maybe as a writer I feel like more blame is on the writer and the editor can only be there to correct stuff unless they're of a high caliber able to spice up bland stories and salvage wasted characters. That's fair enough. I don't think the writers are blameless here, if anything they should know more than anyone else just how difficult Sega can be. I also think it's possible to write a fun story no matter what the mandates are. Sega hasn't banned fun yet >>454008 You know, we've never seen Ian and Many Hands at the same time and place. Coincidence, I think not! We're on to you Ian! >>454010 Yeah, their strengths and weaknesses are too similar. They both need someone else to cover their blindspots >Eggperial City What a snooze fest. Every time you think something interesting's about to happen, it just doesn't
>>454016 You also won't remember when Sonic and other got trapped in basically pokeballs but imediately got out the next issue. Like damn, what was the fucking point.
>>454017 That's the only part I do remember! Imagine if he turned his hat backwards and yelled "Eggball go!" Such a strange choice. If Eggman can build a device fast enough to (briefly) capture Sonic, then he can build a device to kill him
I know I complain about 4/co/ a lot but here's some good news: There's a Gargoyles thread doing numbers with so many Demona milkers. >>>/4chan/co/140157850 >>>/4chan/co/140157850
>>454014 > I also think it's possible to write a fun story no matter what the mandates are.
There are mandates banning writers from using certain characters in any way barring what SoJ approves of, Thirstposter. That is not and never will be conductive to writing good stories. Shadow's mandates literally making him incapable of being used as anything but an antagonistic dick, which is fine in Boom because he can be a humorous foil to the main cast, but is dogshit anywhere else. The mandates are so strict that entire CHARACTERS aren't allowed to be used - ones that don't even suffer problems like Archie or Fleetway even. No money or any sort of currency, no emotional growth or character development, no overt worldbuilding or development of a functional setting, etc.
You can't write a good story when your every option is dogged with a million different "HOWEVER"'s. There's a fucking reason Ian and Evan have been phoning it in and doing the bare minimum.
>>453957 I might despise Sonaze, but that's entirely because of its fans and them shitting on other stuff or poisoning the well for earnest discussion of other ships. I'm perfectly fine with comics about it and can appreciate it in a vacuum. I certainly wouldn't go on other people's comics to complain about it.
>>453956 Amy's Family is intentionally tagged by the author with "sonamy" despite said author freely admitting she neither likes the ship nor Amy as a character. It's entirely fair for someone to make their earnest displeasure known if they were roped in thinking it would be something else, especially if they haven't seen any other pages. It's almost intentionally baiting people with a ship that isn't actually represented in it - instead showing Amy at her very worst and almost being on the level of Colour of Chaos in terms of character assassination. Like, there's a fucking reason RoseDuelist is very upfront with people that her stuff with Shade and Sonic isn't ship art because Shade is a gaslighting psycho who wants to mindbreak and rape him, and Sonic does not reciprocate.
The entire thing is so cruel towards that specific ship you'd think it was being done out of actual targeted maliciousness. And if it is, then it doesn't make ANY ship look good in it.
>>454020 I 100% agree about the mandates making the writers' jobs needlessly difficult, but I still think fun stories could be smuggled in if they weren't so burnt out. I seriously hate what they've mandated for Shadow, but there are ways to make it work (or at least work better).
If he has to be antagonistic, let him fight with Sonic, but show Sonic enjoying the tsun banter and show that Shadow cares back by acknowledging Sonic's a worthy opponent. If he can't show emotion or be friends with Rouge and Omega, have him be mysterious, to the point where it's unclear if he is working with anyone. Basically minimize his screentime so that he's teleporting in for the action and "hmph, I have my reasons" before teleporting out when anyone questions him. You could get away with a lot just by showing Omega thinking it's efficient of him and Rouge being fine with it due to knowing he doesn't like to hang around and make conversation during missions.
It'd be extremely difficult to pull off, but it could be done. It's ultimately moot though since Evan and Ian have been burnt too many times
>>454021 Yeah, the people who go and complain about other people's comics not having the "right" ships are the weirdest. It's like they think the mere existence of other ships diminishes their own >I might despise Sonaze, but that's entirely because of its fans I sure hope you're not implying boco has bad takes!
>>454022 It's a fair point that anyone writing a comic like that should be upfront that it's not wholesome, and probably shouldn't be tagging it Sonamy. At least the Colour of Chaos is extremely clear about its themes. I'm stll upset about how Knuckles is depicted, but at least I knew what to expect before reading >Shade is a gaslighting psycho who wants to mindbreak and rape him She truly is best girl, Sonic doesn't deserve her!
>>453981 >The more she was written, the less she's like Sally Honestly, I prefer her to be her own character. I don't want a Sally replacement, I want Sally. Non of that "we have Sally at home" BS.
>>454024 In order to keep the universe intact, that fight can never happen. >>454026 I would shamelessly make a Sally expy, not a complete copy but someone that fills the same role as leader and has the same banter with Sonic. No romance but I'd make people feel compelled to ship them.
>>454022 >>454023 Yeah honestly this. I think that sonamy fan is justified in voicing their distaste of the comic. They didn't engage with the comic on purpose, it was deliberately placed in a tag that people look up to 9/10 NOT see weird unhealthy shit, and thus assumed it was a different comic.
Also hot take but Galaxia not liking Amy nor sonamy kinda ruins the comic for me a bit. Hateart is a dime a dozen, give me some earnest yanderekino!
>>454028 Horrifying, and not just because it denies me grippers >>454030 >I would shamelessly make a Sally expy I'd do the exact same thing, and I don't even ship Sonally! >>454031 >spoiler Yeah, I liked it better when I thought it was a Sonamy fan poking a bit of fun at the ship
>>454031 >>454032 >Also hot take but Galaxia not liking Amy I don't think she actually hate Amy, but more her characterisation in the early 00's (which is the one she grew up with). her comics seems more as a tackle of that kind of take on Amy rather than Amy herself. Only pushed to the extreme.
>>453969 >>453971 I'm curious as to who would be "the strongest" then, if Knuckles can beat everyone else in a strsight-up brawl but doesn't qualify. I know plenty of people have varying definitions as to what "strongest" entails after all.
I know that in Archie at least, Mighty is considered his rough peer in raw physicals, if not outright stronger barring mystical powerups.
>>454044 Action puzzle game where you have to use and combine your inventions to get past obstacles. Tails would have a moveset similar to SA and Frontiers, and there'd be some plane/mech sections (not just his usual mech, but ones outfitted for different situations). Of course the one we all want is already being made https://twitter.com/bullniku/status/1311732436888367105
So I started to look for fan fics to read because i want to get into them, and I randomly stumbled into Queeniedraws fanfics and read the sonic boom one. Gotta say, It's a pretty nice read even when im not too into knuxouge If you guys know any decent sonic fan fics pls share Also topkek at all the https://archiveofourown.org/works/41147994
>>454060 Honestly, for all of his flaws, you can at least say that TGT Shadow is a good friend. Dude even got pissed at Knuckles trying to make the moves on Amy when Sonic's corpse was barely cooled - despite not liking the guy at all.
Sonic and the Freedom Fighters Note Enerjak was their greatest warrior but Tikal never trusted him. So when the need for someone to be blessed by Chaos arose, Tikal protested. Pachacamac did not heed her warning. Caution was no longer an option. They were at war and on the brink of being wiped out.
I'm running low on note content. I still have other storylines to add so it might just be a bunch of stuff like that after a while. If it gets to a point where it's a stretch to keep it going then I'll just stop.
>>454074 What I normally do is find an artist I want to draw like and look up all the images they drew of that character and and find as many different angles as possible and put it in one image so I will have a quick reference to use no matter the angle.
>>454075 I actually do have a ton of refs on a board for me to look at. It's just I've struggled drawing the guy whole so I tend to give up easily on him. Just gotta power throught I guess to get better.
>>454073 Nice! Hope we get to see his later non-beak design. Probably best to stop when there's not much to mention. Don't want to spoil anything! >>454076 Knuckles is the hardest to draw due to his more complex head shape. I'd recommend downloading a 3d model to get a good look at how it's all connected. There's also some nice turnarounds of him. This one's by Hesse >>454077 Last update was July 1st, but the current art does seem to be related to the comic https://sthsora.thecomicseries.com/ >>454079 They must defeat the mustard and magenta menace before fashion is ruined forever! >>454080 Seems fine to me. I'm getting full size when I click on the thumbnails, and didn't get any errors when I archived the latest thread
>>454074 I'm gonna be completely honest with you, as an illustrator some Sonic designs are kind of a nightmare to draw. Wouldn't say they're poorly designed but they're definitely on a tightrope.
>>454081 I probably should've posted his modern take. This one's from the Frontiers prologue cartoon I ran it through AI to remove the compression artifacts since jpeg's terrible at reds
>>454044 I would go and try to adapt that >>454063 into a game. No idea how the gameplay would go, like Tails Adventure on 3D but you can also go fast on foot, with a good combat system and also able to build things. Plus can't forget vehicles.
Sonic Origin of Chaos Chapter 2 Page 28-29 https://www.deviantart.com/justtheauthor Don't tell anyone but I'm using the slightly smaller version of this page because the file size is significantly smaller.
>>454092 It's pretty funny how they camp out our threads looking for any excuse to shake their mop at us. Kinda makes me feel like a celebrity! >>454093 That went surprisingly well! >I'm using the slightly smaller version One day Chrome will implement jpeg XL and we'll finally be able to stop worrying about large filesizes
>>454096 Yeah, you can almost taste the saltiness. It must really piss them off knowing our Ride has continued on business as usual despite all their efforts >>454097 Noooo, let me have my dream!
Sonic and the Freedom Fighters Note In issue 1, I said that Sonic was able to increase his speed past his normal limits for a brief time but it would drain him afterwards. But I never really used it again and instead found myself liking the supercharge angle better so I’ll be retconning what Sonic did to getting a power boost from Sally in a split second. Is Sally able to supercharge Sonic in an instant? Sure.
>>454124 Eh, these sort of things happen with all comics so I wouldn't worry about it. Archie certainly didn't! >>454125 I'm up most nights so I'll always make sure we're at around 400 posts by 9am
>tfw comic I liked is coming back with (hopefully) main character and his red head love interest being together at the start instead of some BS
Makes me really appeciate you conductor a lot more for making Sonic and Sally together. Pls continue to give my fave furry scrimblos kissing but with some good ol drama for the rest of the comic.
>>454132 >spoiler I hope it never comes back ever again. It was so shit. >Anyway, dropped a link and I'm dipping out lol, tho I would drop links when the thing is starting next time btw
>>454133 >lol, tho I would drop links when the thing is starting next time btw Meh. If they don't want to come over when we have the threads the same time everyday then that's on them.
>>454132 lmao, I'm interested to see how it goes >spoiler Yet another cop-out >>454134 I was genuinely too distracted by his back muscles to notice ;_;
>>454132 >>454133 Honestly all it needed was a cooler design than just Unpissed Moon. Like, I GET the reasoning behind it, the idea that it looks different depending on what you visualize death as is really cool, but they should've played with its appearance to really drive that point home. Have it look different depending on what character we're focusing on, have characters point that out and get into a little argument where they're both insisting it looks a peculiar way before either realizing or The End deliberately telling them.
Also like, is it a cultural thing? Do Japanese people view the moon as a symbol of death? I know the reason why (SoJ is run by xenophobes), but it baffles me that they couldn't just do their due diligence and researched what's the most common symbol of death across the world and designed an "average" from that. Because when I see the moon I don't think of death, when I think of death I picture something akin to the grim reaper.
I'm back to Battle after taking a break and seeing our drawfren talk about my struggles on their account lmao. I beat Rouge's story and as always, fucking sucked. On to more.
So Knuckles is a battle obessed tard who wants Emerl to train. Since literally when has he been like this? This game is so strange, the characters are so wack and psycho, and Knuckles lives on some random ass house not on his island.
This game is causing me to actually cry. Straight to straight battle with guard robos and phis. Former with its INITIATING RECOVERY MODE causing me to die and their OP attacks It's hell and im tearing up for reals.
>>454143 I'm more upset that they were clearly aiming to make The End a recurring threat that ties into Echidna lore and now Ian's backpedaling because Sega's changed their mind again. This lack of direction and constant scrapping of ideas is seriously detrimental to the series. Frankly I'm just tired of Sega's open hostility towards fans that want to know more about the characters they like. >>454144 Highly recommend emulating it and just cheesing through those fights with cheats >INITIATING RECOVERY MODE I'm seriously getting flashbacks
Sonic Now Page 137 https://www.tumblr.com/theartpal Now there's something to make her different from Rouge and Blaze's friend that looked like Rouge. Now!
>>454151 Thanks! I'll probably do some other Knuckles-centered comics for later Knuckles threads, since they get fewer replies. You're probably fine doing three issues so long as they're Sonic comics >>454152 This comic is so fucked up
>>454155 Yeah during the Cheeto Man arc. Knuckles brings a bunch of girls to an orgy in order to give him STDs and in revenge he has all the girls killed. Amy was among them. Knuckles and Tails find her like Shadow just did.
>>454156 I hate to say it but both threads with just Knuckles comics have had way fewer posters. It sucks because some of the best (and worst!) parts of Archie are Echidnawank >>454157 lmao, I assumed you were talking about Archie Knuckles here and thought I was having a stroke >>454158 Booo!
>>454159 >I hate to say it but both threads with just Knuckles comics have had way fewer posters. It sucks because some of the best (and worst!) parts of Archie are Echidnawank And the Tails mini filled up so fast. Mostly because of shitposting and arguing but still...
>>454167 I am now imagining Shadow, on his knee, looking in desperation at that bottle of juice having been open, with liquid still spilling out of the bottle.
>>454171 Yeah, the game's great for lore, but the characters feel like parodies of themselves >And... Oh god.... I'm finally at her story... Amy's story's the best, so long as you like her as an absolutely unhinged stalker that's trying to baby-trap Sonic with a robot child, all the while she's Madonna-tier over exercising and talking to a version of Sonic that exists only in her head!
>>454172 >>454173 >>454174 Had to do something, but I'm back to play this hellish game! Story literally opens up with amy using her cards to stalk Sonic, and is a huge fucking bitch to Tails. All she asks is where Sonic is and nothing else. I hate her
Guys, I think this game is starting to make really dislike her a lot more. I never vibed with Amy in the first place, wasnt too big a fan of her. not even for shipping reasons either since I consumed media like X and Heroes before touching any media like SatAM until years later (some guy went off at melike a psycho once for thinking I was lying lul) Can any Amyfags here understand what im saying?
>not only working herself to death but also Cream and Cheese I know I sound like a broken record, but HOLY FUCK. She is seriously unlikeable here. What were they thinking?!
>>454177 >Can any Amyfags here understand what im saying? I don't dislike Amy as a character but I wouldn't consider myself a fan of her either. With that said, it's best to consider her characterisation there as a "phase" she will eventually move from. (expect to still see a bit of that in Sonic Rush, though). But yeah, I can get why people would be taken of by anyone wanting to ship Sonic with THAT Amy.
Ironically, around that same period of time, she actually get a better treatment in the Archie comics, despite the dislike of her fans for that comic.
Can't really help you about how to deal with those games making you hate the character more, though. Maybe write a comic where she kidnap Sonic somehow. Heard that's how some other have done so...
>>454178 The "needing to exercise to not be fat" is the part that I can at least blame on the writers alone rather than on the character. The 00's hit you with weird stuff like that sometimes...
Finished Amy's story. Fucking terrible, the absolute low point of the story. But Cream's is next, which means more Amy. And you know what? If you think Amy's suicidal tier behavior is bad, the dash & manga has Amy do this to herself. Actually Abhorrent.
Normally I'm fine with the coloring for the Archie issues but good lord I do not like what they did for the final fight in issue 50. I kind of want the original pages for just that.
Sonic and the Freedom Fighters Note Plenty of side stories in the games will either be cut completely, changed, or merged together to better fit in arcs. Maybe even moved to different stories they weren’t originally a part of.
>>454204 You know you don’t need to make a Note every time, you are stretching yourself too thin. Please just stop and build them up for a while, conductor instead of this burnout inducing way you’re doing
Sonamy Proposal Comic Chapter 6 Page 32 https://www.deviantart.com/misstangshan95 The comic's back! And Knuckles shouldn't apologize. Despite the Master Emerald giving consent, Sonic did Knuckles dirty. Remember, he didn't even invite the guy.
>>454207 OKay, but I worry about you sometimes with suffering burnout. Like, you have been doing basically daily threads for years at this point. That and your comic must have some stress building up.
>>454177 I mean, you got into the ride with a series and a game that was right in the middle of the absolute dogshit worst of the worst the character was portrayed as. Before and after this era, she's much more enjoyable.
>>454196 Missed the thread but caught up now. Really liked seeing Antoine standing up for Sonic, and going on his own mission later. Not sure if that was IDWkun having a melty at the end of the thread, it honestly read like the poster was underage >>454203 Yeah, I'm honestly not a fan of the recoloring. I'm actually thinking of cleaning up the original scans of everything at some point >>454204 Oh boy, the Tails' Adventure adaption's gonna need an 18+ warning for all the gore! >>454206 Not inviting his best friend to his wedding is just bullshit and Knuckles had absolutely no reason to apologize >>454209 lmao
>>454215 >Yeah, I'm honestly not a fan of the recoloring. I'm actually thinking of cleaning up the original scans of everything at some point I looked at the original version of issue 50 and pages 18-21 of the final fight are not only colored differently but the Director's Cut even removes a Spaz page where Robotnik says "oh, how I hate that hedgehog." I'd like to at least post this after the issue is done.
>>454216 Yeah, the fact that they remove Spaz art is unforgivable. I've added in the two pages to the mega and renumbered them so you can slot them in at the correct part. Yeah, after cleaning up the original coloring it's so much better than the redo. Fuck, I'm really going to have to redo all the original issues at some point
>>454224 Thanks. I've also been thinking about what to do with Knuckles. Since reception isn't that good, there's two ways to fix it. Do two more issues of Sonic as well or alternate and do four issues a thread.
>>454225 No worries! Yeah, Knuckles just doesn't seem to draw in that many readers. It's a shame because they're actually my favorite stories, even if they aren't the best. Maybe start with a single issue of Sonic and then do some Knuckles ones? The NiGHTS comics will definitely need some Sonic comics to go with them
>>454227 Yeah, better to power through those ones if possible. Fair warning, it's 151 pages of absolute madness. I still don't know what the plot is and I had to pour over each page to clean them up!
https://www.deviantart.com/maria-hearts/ A sort of short sequence I found. I'd advise against checking the rest of that gallery, it is not very celery friendly.
>>453821 Original Ride update: Looks like archived.moe has a json backend so I'll be able to process the threads the same way I do for our threads! The bad news is if the images aren't on archived.moe, then they probably aren't on on any 4chan archive. Even worse, the images we do have are only thumbnails ;_; I'll keep looking, but my current plans are now mostly writing this out so I don't forget: 1. Download the threads and thumbnails that are there, and upload the processed threads to the website 2. Download EVERY version of the Sonic comics available online 3. Download all the images from https://theride.booru.org 4. Compare the image hashes for these images with the ones in the treads, and hopefully fill in the missing parts 5. Make new versions of the threads with the found images
I finally beat it... I finally completed Sonic Battle... What a terrible fucking and tedious game. The gameplay is shit and at a certain point, its a waiting game to fill the meter to insta KO the opponents to get things over with. The story was whatever and the writing was consistently mid and Amy is terrible here. I didn't mention it but the soundtrack is ear grating. I have no idea why it sounds so shit when the other advance games were fineish in that department. Fucking awful experience. One of the few things I did like was Eggman who acted like himself the most, and is a awful person for what her did to Emerl. Crazy how people think he deserves any fucking redemption. Battle Eggman is infinity times better than in frontiers. Anyways, this game fucking sucked and a lesson for the fanbase, writing does not make a Sonic game any better when the expierence sucks.
>>454244 i haven't played it since it came out, but now I feel like checking it out again. What's the recommended GBA emulator, is it still visualboyadvance?
As for your critique, I think you are a bit harsh on the game. From what I remember the gameplay is just knocking enemies into the corner in a loop until they die, and the more upgrades you get the easier it gets. It is indeed very tedious, but not any more than any other RPG. And the game was very refreshing for the fact that it was a semi-3d arena fighter, which was unheard of for a portable system when the game came out. It doesn't look impressive today, but in 2003 it certainly did.
>The story was whatever and the writing was consistently mid This is true for every Sonic game.
>and Amy is terrible here. This is... also true for every Sonic game.
>I didn't mention it but the soundtrack is ear grating. And this is true for every GBA Sonic game, and many other GBA games too. The system had a legendarily bad sound system.
>>454245 The sprites are very nice, but I think I have the right on shitting on the game that way. Combat itself is very mindless, and trying to hit the enemies can very strange. I think the worst of this was the Eggman boss. It was terrible.
Trying to catch back to all the comics before tonight's endgame (don't think I'll succeed, but I'll be here either way) A shame I missed the first occurrence of Sally's Cheeks Tuft in the comic. I have no excuse. https://>>>/4chan/co/139882322
>go to reddit and sonic forums >people actually enjoying and discussing archie/satam even tho a lot of them don't want it to be canon Why did you /sthg/ fags tell me no one likes it?
Reading the Princess Sally mini-series and beyond the most decrying issue, an other aspect that really frustrate me is that this comic is actually quite good at featuring Sally taking command and being effective at blowing things up. For he most part, it does a good job at showcasing Sally's qualities.
Except... it turns out she actually accomplished almost none of those things. A complete disservice to the character. A shame, really.
>>454260 >>454261 >>454262 I can't get over how everyone was so quick to jump on Sonic's throat for what happened to Sally when Robotnik can build robots who are effectively perfect copies of a regular Mobian.
Since Bollers is taking over soon, I'm going to have to research him a little bit. I admittedly don't know too much about him such as his his shipping preferences and opinions on how characters should act. I still find it fascinating that he becomes lead writer for Sonic starting with 62. His first issue as a writer is 54.
>>454266 Because he wanted to take over the world, not destroy it. That was a plan to wipe out the entire planet, no exception. His ultimate goal is getting rid of Sonic and the Freedom Fighters. With them gone he can take over the rest of the world with ease. When Robotnik was stuck in the void and Snively tried to get rid of the Freedom Fighters on his own, he was close to destroying the world and even Robotnik didn't want that.
Robotnik also had nukes he never used because he didn't want to fuck up the planet that much. Eggman has a different reason in that he doesn't want to win that easily.
Since we're talking about Eggman, funny thing, Eggman in battle also doesn't want the world destroyed cuz he couldnt rule it!. Though, Eggman going full destroy mode after he's dead as some plan is something I can see him doing. If he can't have Earth, then no one can.
>>454264 That sort of shit is only done for cheap drama and of course someone like penders would pull that. A good writer would have the characters recongize this sort of thing happening before and not fall for that trick
>>454273 Wise, caring, and courageous. You see him in a few episodes, namely the two part time travel episode and the one where they go into the void and meet him and Naugus.
>>454275 He gets more bearable when he's not sucking face with Sally and goes from """"lovable"""" rogue that can't do wrong to being Max's secretive lapdog.
>>454277 Like I know some other guy said we dont like him because he kissed sally (which is kinda true) but it kinda fails when other writers dont really go along with the love triangle BS.
A continuity error I never noticed before, but when Sally come back from her mission in thee mini-series, it's indicated she went into it without Nicole as it accompanied Sonic for a different mission: https://>>>/4chan/co/139986339 And yet in the mini series itself, Nicole IS with Sally for the whole story: https://>>>/4chan/co/139946668
I could excuse it with writers having difficulties coordinating with each others, but both of those issue were written by the same person. Go figure.
>>454278 It's not that he's kissing Sally but how he just does it and gets away with it. Sally isn't the kind of girl to let another guy kiss her like that. Imagine Geoffrey doing that with Bunnie. You'd think that Bunnie would sock him and tell him to never do that again but under Penders, Bunnie would be just like Sally. Making out in front of Antoine and picking fights with him.
>>454279 Also, side note, that story still has this weird setting where it's quite not clear about how big is the reach of Robotnik power. Like there is a bunch of citizen just living their normal live, doing their business until the evil doppelgangers ruin their day.
The way thy treat the freedom fighter make it almost look like their fight against Robotnik is some kind of side-hustle they just really don't pay attention to. at least until it comes to impact their lives. >oh, you weren't evil after all? Well, I guess we will let you all resume your fight against Robomatic and Sweavel or whatstheirname, then.
To be honest, this kind of contribute to the charm of the comics of that era, even at the price of consistency.
How to fix Geoffrey -Doesn't kiss Sally but flirts with her in front of Sonic. Show that he's more open about his feelings and it annoys Sonic and makes him realize that he should be more open as well. -Geoffrey can start of antagonizing Sonic but he would realize how vital Sonic is. So there's an understanding and respect but Geoffrey is still aiming for the top spot and Sally. -Geoffrey has fast reflexes so he can be taken out in a hit from Sonic but he manages to anticipate and dodge almost all attacks. -Sally actually calls out Geoffrey on his shit instead of chastising only Sonic and relying on Geoffrey more than him. -Don't make Geoffrey appear to be too old. He can be older but by like a few years and he can use that along with his experience to lord over Sonic. It can even be used to knock him down a peg if he's shown to be lacking in experience despite his age. -Sonic and Sally get together and Geoffrey congratulates Sonic for it.
>>454282 The way I see it is that the Freedom Fighters was taking up most of Robotnik's attention as he mainly stayed in Robotropolis but he would occasionally go out and have others do his dirty work for him in other parts of the world. I never liked Robotnik/Eggman controlling most of the world. He's got spots where he's in control and can attack anywhere but aside from that, most of the world isn't affected too much.
>>454284 >I never liked Robotnik/Eggman controlling most of the world. He's got spots where he's in control and can attack anywhere but aside from that, most of the world isn't affected too much. Funny, Robotnik actually taking over the world is actually the angle I want to take.
>>454284 >>454287 SatAM kinda started it but OVA did it well like you want. He has his Robotropolis in some part of the world away from other places as his main base of operations
>>454224 I decided to just take the scans of pages 18-21 and upscale them and throw them in. I still want to do the newer pages before the fight but want the original start of the fight and the fight itself before the big boom.
This just isn’t Eggman’s day and it looks like it’s his last day, too! With one annoyance dealt with, Brutus turns his attention to the remaining ones. Even though he was ordered to fight the Freedom Fighters by Eggman, he still has a grudge against them. And so begins the final fight!
>>454240 lmao >>454244 Congratulations! Honestly, if they'd fixed up the gameplay and characterization I could see it becoming it's own sub-series like Riders. Unfortunately it ended up pretty forgettable outside of the lore and the cool art >>454250 Oh my! >>454253 /sthg/ doesn't like anything and is 90% schizos. The rest of the fanbase is way more chill about different continuities >>454265 He's got some interesting ideas but weird execution. You should look into what his plans were for the comic before he left >>454283 Yeah, that'd work. Personally I'd have him be a gaychad that flirts with Sally to proxy flirt with Sonic. Sally would be aware of this and flirt back, just to see how long it would take Sonic to catch on. Then, when Elias is introduced, he'd become utterly obsessed with him >>454284 Yeah, I've always taken it as Robotnik boasting he controls the entire world, but it's really only Robotropolis and some bases >>454290 Gasp! >>454292 No worries >>454293 Went really well today. Our special friend tried his best but was drowned out and barely replied to. Sad!
>>454296 >He's got some interesting ideas but weird execution. You should look into what his plans were for the comic before he left Yeah I checked it out. Now I know who he ships Sonic with. If him and Gabrie were planning it, I wonder why it didn't happen. Maybe too late and he was out the door.
>>454298 Mina was just a tease. She was the one that made Sonic conflicted in his feelings for Sally. But Bollers was going to eventually hook Sonic up with Amy.
>>454301 From what I remember of reading this plans, it sounded like a bad bad idea. It wouldbe just caused more shipping drama and questions about amys mental state since she aged up and was way younger when it happened
>>454301 Oh, that's just weird. In other continuities it'd be fine, but the fact they spent so much time establishing she was way to young for Sonic just makes it weird. They'd have to do a timeskip to fix that
>>454302 >caused more shipping drama That was indeed the plan. >>454303 Well... Amy does get aged up in the comics but still has the mind of a child but the idea is that over time that gets forgotten and she acts her age, more or less. Still problematic for Sonic.
>>454304 Damn, that's some prime booty! Kinda wish the feet were paws though >>454305 >spoiler Yeah, that's my main problem. If they hadn't so clearly established she still had the mind of a child it would've been fine. I have no idea what they were thinking
>>454306 >Yeah, that's my main problem. If they hadn't so clearly established she still had the mind of a child it would've been fine. I have no idea what they were thinking Probably didn't intend for the romance to happen when the change was made. It was still awkward but they probably just wanted to comply and get it over with.
>>454282 In early Archie, it's mostly established that Robotnik's powerbase is centered in Robotropolis, but he has figures like Crobot and the High Sheriff in other parts of the world to expand his reach. He doesn't 'own' all of Mobius despite his boasts.
>>454266 Because Robotnik never wanted the world irreversibly destroyed, just brought to heel and under his control. It's even made clear that until much later where his obsessive need to have them utterly destroyed sets in, he doesn't even really want the Freedom Fighters or Sonic dead - just roboticized and under his authority.
This is a big part of the reason why Robotnik was considered less evil than Eggman by everyone. Because in his own twisted way, Robotnik didn't want anyone dead, let alone the world. Eggman however DOES. He's only chosen to conquer the world for the sheer thrill of it, but would gleefully destroy it if it weren't for THE GAME being his primary focus.
>>454177 >Can any Amyfags here understand what im saying? I am the biggest (probably only) Sonamyfag in these threads and even I heavily despise psycho Amy and the damage that has done to her character ever since. I'd absolutely love if we could completely bury that shit, which Frontiers is trying to do (and which Boom attempted beforehand), but you still have retards who cling onto this characterization as the ONLY way Amy should be or what her to go back to acting like this.
>>454132 Ian can't really decide things like that, no matter what he says. Recall lthat he's said that a bunch of games were non-canon in earlier Bumblekasts then went "actually they're canon" when SoJ came in and told him as much.
>>454138 >Also like, is it a cultural thing? Do Japanese people view the moon as a symbol of death? The Moon has been considered a symbol of death and madness the world over before any of us were even born. It is literally the origin of the word "lunacy", itself the origin of lunatic. Werewolves were considered people cursed by or driven insane by the light of the moon. Etc.
The reaper interpretation of Death is a much newer one relatively speaking and was probably popularized by media over time.
>>454322 I've seen Evan do that too. Pretty frustrating when you're told one thing and then told another and then you have to relay that inconsistent information. Makes you look untrustworthy. But it's /sthg/ and twitter. They don't care.
>>454132 >>454322 This is the specific tweet. Note that it doesn't even come across as Ian relaying shit from SoJ like his Bumblekast info, but just his own personal opinion and interpretation like when he was asked about its powerlevels and unironically brought up Solaris in contradiction of the presented narrative. In fact, this directly contradicts the narrative we're given too, since The End has literally no reason to lie or boast about having multiple incarnations. It just comes across as both a cop-out and his own opinion on things.
There's a reason he's getting torn apart on Twitter over this. It makes the entire final sequence of the game feel like The End having a schizophrenic break if it was all just lies and boasting.
>>454327 Unless there's going to be a Sonic Frontiers 2, there's a good chance that The End really isn't ever coming back. Even if there is a sequel it will most likely not come back. Ian is just telling people to not expect it to come back which I'll take over thinking there's a chance. I remember when people thought Infinite was somehow connected to Frontiers.
>>454328 I could accept Infinite not coming back because nobody cares about WEAKman, but when the villain who is literally the cause of the entire history of the franchise occurring, who outright states it has multiple incarnations (in a script WRITTEN by Ian no less), who per word of Kishimoto himself is the literal concept of the end of existence itself, and who has no reason to lie about that, then turns out to have been lying all along about everything because it's confirmed via tweet? At that point you've basically shot yourself in the foot and more or less told people they shouldn't expect anything other than another two decades of Eggman and useless one-off villains who suck his dick and have no personality of their own.
It would have been infinitely better if he'd have just said that "It won't return in Sonic's lifetime, but The End literally can't be destroyed" because that would at least let the fans do whatever with the concept. Now it just seems like they'll most likely sweep Frontiers under the rug to go about recreating the fucking wheel. Again. Meaning everyone wasted their time caring or expecting anything different.
>>454328 >>454329 We literally already went through the whole "loser boosting himself up" with Infinite. Ian really should recognize how fucking trite this is assuming this isn't him regurgitating SoJ's own words down to the masses - which I have reason to doubt.
>>454330 It's also weird that Ian even considered wanting to bring in Hyper Sonic to face The End AT ALL if it was actually so weak a single bullrush could permanently kill it. Even the notion of it needing two forms beyond Super Sonic to destroy doesn't make sense if it was a sub-Dark Gaia/Biolizard/Time Eater/Metal Overlord tier foe.
>>454332 Then it sucks that I am completely burnt out on Eggman after the Meta Era. One of the strengths of other continuities is having recurring big bads who AREN'T the same fat bastard with the same rehashed mechs and plans for the millionth time. You literally can't do anything new with Eggman in the games or comics because his goals will never evolve or change.
Ironic that despite their attempts to pull a Kirby, Sega has completely failed to recognize what made Kirby connecting all their lore to Void hit so strongly.
This is a rare case where Kishimoto's word can probably be taken over anything Ian says - and that's where Kishimoto literally states that only that manifestation was destroyed, and we've never seen the true form of The End. Similarly, even the Sonic Twitter had The End pop up in their Twitter Takeovers and that's literally run by SoA.
So even if it never shows up again, the general assessment from the director himself is that it's not dead.
>>454333 There's always a chance for Sega to actually reused a non-Eggman villain but there's a dozen things it could do that fans keep allowing themselves to get false hope for only to be let down game after game after game. I look at trends and not promises when it comes to Sega. What have they always done? That's probably what they'll do again.
Again, Ian was better off not explaining things on twix but he seemed to be very brief and trying to tell people not to expect The End to come back. He probably knows that Sega has no intention on revealing he's alive and that's his conclusion. But he's a social media creature and will answer and reply on there.
>>454336 Robotnik's a slob that has the same obsession over Sonic and he's also very abusive. Snively is a spineless coward that's more dangerous when left alone. Eggman is someone he would get along with the best until he finds out that he's been betrayed and forced to be subservient. Bombs or nanobots that shut down his body, Starline would be fucked.
Sonic and the Freedom Fighters Note Sonic’s lucky. He only deals with one mad scientist. Knuckles has to deal with two. I think they’re dating each other. Good for them! Good for them!
>>454337 I get the feeling he would hate how Robotnik keeps leaving critical parts of his projects in the hands of Snively. Modern Eggman is much more organized in that manner.
>>454347 https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Karl_Bollers Scroll down to trivia and you'll see a list of what he was going to do as well as the source for it. >>454348 Starline would volunteer and take the initiative to assist Robotnik and steal the spotlight from Snively but at soon as he makes a mistake or fails, Robotnik's going to clobber him and the honeymoon's over.
https://www.deviantart.com/wubbawakki >If you haven't played Sonic The Hedgehog (2006), this probably won't make any sense. New DA account with just this submitted. Not sure what to expect but hopefully it's legit.
>>454309 Personally I'd have been happy with them just setting Amy up with someone else >>454313 Absolute edge-kino >>454314 Rouge and Eggman getting friendly works weirdly well >>454320 Eventually the good characterizations of Amy will drown out psycho Amy >>454321 He's so precious! >>454323 That's a good point. There's lots of lore about the Moon and not all of it is positive >>454327 All he had to say was he doesn't think The End's coming back. He didn't need to be so sanctimonious about it >>454329 I-I care about Infinite ;_; >It won't return in Sonic's lifetime, but The End literally can't be destroyed Now that would've been a good way to handle it >>454335 >I look at trends and not promises when it comes to Sega I do that too, and yet I'm still frequently disappointed ;_;
>>454338 Knowing smile! >>454339 I'm glad I'm not the only one that ships Enerjak and Finitevus! >>454340 Oh boy! Oh and fun fact: We've got a Nebz Shady redid the dialog for Naugus Games so we've got three versions to do! And now I'm reminded of when I tried to redo the original Sonic Anarchy ;_; >>454342 Very anime! >>454345 Just like the OVA! >>454351 Oh man, I love 06 comics! >>454353 Sonic's channeling a bit of Frenzynic here
>>454354 >And now I'm reminded of when I tried to redo the original Sonic Anarchy ;_; Big oofs for everyone. I should check the archive for new Sonic fancomics at some point. One day I'll find the missing pages of World Domination, Baby!
Decided to storytime a Klonoa story to pay tribute to Matthew Perry's passing: >>454356 >>454355 Still, it was very helpful in getting me up to speed on lettering! >One day I'll find the missing pages of World Domination, Baby! Speaking of, if you've got any DA accounts that have been wiped or deleted, let me know. saucenao lets you download all previews they have for an account if you pay so I'd rather have a list to go through
>>454329 >who is literally the cause i'm not so sure about that, especially if it's just a haphazard justification of previous events that people can't reconcile with, and especially if that wasn't the original intention for why those things happened. cause that's cop out shit, right there
>>454425 Yeah >>454426 lmao, someone's tying to color in Meanbean's Shadamy comic https://the-ride.neocities.org/comics/2022-07-15-shadamy/ https://>>>/4chan/co/131846057 >>454427 The original Sonic Anarchy comic was too small to read so I was upscaling it and redoing all the text since most people couldn't read it. I'd almost finished when the Konductor found a better quality version so we wen with that instead
>>454430 >The original Sonic Anarchy comic was too small to read so I was upscaling it and redoing all the text since most people couldn't read it. I'd almost finished when the Konductor found a better quality version so we wen with that instead And to think it was on archive.org the entire time I was wondering if the artist was going to upload the pages at a better resolution. I even sent them a message asking for it and they didn't have it but the other person involved uploaded it. Haha, fun times.
Damn, Endgame was nuts just as expected. Sonic finally kissing Sally at the end was the perfect cherry on top too. Now I'm guessing the comic just continues on now in a zombie-ish sense because in another timeline the Sonic comic would've actually ended at #50.
I'm the ends biggest hater but I don't appreciate how many people are attacking ian over this. Like first, why do the worst bad guy in the series lol. Second, knowing that it was an ultra powerful being but let its power get so into its head it starting hyping itself up beyond is kinda funny. As of now, it's some ultra powerfull alien like the metarex. Tho I wonder if they'll ever explain in future bad lore on wtf was its problem with the chaos emeralds and chaos people
>>454464 Oh well, then I guess you'll have to resign yourself to fight an actually good game with still awful Amy characterisation, but not as bad as in Battle
The one real issue with this game are the bosses who are a bit tedious.
>>454466 I think it’s funny he was just born that way even though his parents were normal >>454465 >spoiler Oh boy... I actually played Rush years ago but I’m going through the games again. And yes, the vivid memory of the game I have is it’s terrible bosses
ok what were the other freedom fighters supposed to say in issue 47? They still have the "king" and geoffrey against them, not to mention other witnesses like the wolves especially drago
https://>>>/4chan/co/140035562 >Now for the two part Tails Backup. Honestly, this doesn't fit in anywhere because in the very story that this takes place after, we see Tails fine. Also the second part of this takes place after the story we just did. So it's best to do this after everything else.
Even with Tails not seeming to hold any grudge toward Sonic and not being hurt either by the end of issue #28, I still think that the two-part teaser for the Tails mini-Series, Growing Pains!, AND the Tails mini-series itself take part right after the end of the main story of issue 28, so before the main story of issue 29 (so before Dulcy is introduced), even if the second part of Growing Pain is in issue 29.
So, basically, -Saturday Night's Alright For a Fight! (Sonic #28) -Growing Pains! part 1&2 (bonus stories in Sonic #28 and #29) -Tails Mini Series (#1 to #3) -Steel-Belted Sally (Sonic #29)
This is how it make the most sense, continuity wise.
I have only figured out now that the reason the robot forearms and hands of Uncle Chuck are white is because it's the equivalent of his white gloves and it was carried on when he was roboticized.
Oh wait, Daylight saving just happened where I live, which means that for at least a for weak, story time will start at midnight for European Time. Joy!
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Good luck helping your father. Though when it come to tinkering jobs like that, an half hour can easily turn into two hours. Though don't worry and don't rush things.
I'm actually upset rn about nothing being done with Sally going againist her father much. There's so MUCH potential with that. Not only that, Knuckles goes through the same bullshit. You can have Sally and Knuckles cutting off such toxic people and strengtening that friendship they already have as best friends. Conductor, you better do something like that in your comic. It would make for a really good read.
>>454451 Guilty as charged! Seriously though, he'd make a fun Shadow villain >>454464 It's fun if you can put up with the awful controls and some terrible missions >>454471 Sonic just used the treadmill for training, it didn't give him any energy >>454488 Aww, that's so nice of you! Man, the glass doors are such a hassle, I've actually shattered one trying to install it ;_; >>454492 Deepest lore! >>454500 Yeah, that should work >>454501 It's hard for them to see the problems in their own relationships, so I'd have Sally and Knuckles spend more time together. That way they could convince the other to stand up to their father
>>454508 Not enough people responded to IDWkun's bait so he had to get out his frustrations somehow >>454509 Only posts that directly name Rotor and say positive things about him. They didn't delete any of mine since I didn't say Rotor, and they kept up the ones that were shitting on him (probably because jannies rarely delete their own posts).
Does Sally being into Geofrey ever made sense? Like ever since the mini series, I just didn't buy it. I kinda hate how sally gets passed around like that.
>>454511 Yeah, the dude's absolutely obsessed with NTR, it's kinda creepy. Still, I left him some nice art with a much superior fetish to look at! >>454512 Only in Penders' mind. If it was better written, I could see Sally getting a crush on him, but it's been clear from the start that Sonic and Sally are into each other (and have probably already started dating)
Sonic and the Freedom Fighters Note By the time Knuckles first meets Sonic, he’ll already have had experience with a speedster. She and her little buddy have been quite the nuisance on Angel Island.
>>454512 > I kinda hate how sally gets passed around like that. Oh don't worry. Sonic gets his own bit of love triangle relationship drama. A couple have Sally included but he's got other ones as well.
Issue 5 cover. Spoiler: Eggman survived. That or he's somehow in heaven with Kukku. It's okay, there's an even bigger surprise not shown and I'll let Thirstposter say what it is.
>>454520 They're equal parts kino and terrifying >>454521 Oh boy! Decided to post it here in case YouTube gets uppity >>454522 >Spoiler: Eggman survived That's legitimately his strongest skill regardless of continuity. Even in the games he's pissed off A water deity, two (2) separate time deities, two (2) separate alien races, BOTH primordial Earth deities, G.U.N., and the Ultimate Lifeform. Sonic and friends are pretty much the only characters that won't kill him on sight >I'll let Thirstposter say what it is. I still can't believe you devoted so many pages to Sonic and Knuckles' wedding, let alone to their honeymoon! Seriously though, I'm not spoilering anything, they'll just have to wait!
>>453667 Shock and Awe - Issue 2: Page 118 Jackal with self esteem issues detected! Decided to upscale the image since the green textboxes were almost impossible to read
>>454538 >>454539 >that tiny percent of archie fans who liked the politics for some reason Count me in. If I ever get to make what I am planing an actual thing, it will be heavy loaded with hat shit.
>>454538 Small page size coupled with a bad combination of colors for text box and text is a killer. If either one was changed by the artist then it wouldn't be a problem but I'd prefer the page being at least a couple hundred pixels wider.
Say Surge & Kit get deprogrammed from the mindfuckery Starline did, what team would better for the electric gremlin and water boy. >Freedom Fighters >Secret FF >G.U.N. >Chaotix >Restoration >Doing their own thing
>>454550 If they got deprogrammed they would probably look for their families, and as for joining the heroes the restoration would probably be the best option as what they do resonates the most with what they went through(stopping Eggman and rebuilding what was destroyed by the conflict against him). They would be essentially what Tangle was at the beginning of the comic.
kind of a vent post due to a convo I dealt with today. but I dont get some people antagonize others for liking an old Sonic thing like archie. I've accepted it wont come back but you still get assholes antagonizing you even if you stay in your lane. Saying things like "MOVE ON, ITS NOT CANON!", etc. Doesnt help when said old things you like have absoulte retards ruining things for everyone, like r*chm*nk and his movement who just refuse to fuck off. It just pisses me off and leaves me empty
>>454555 The guy who always does that shit is most likely IDWkun, and his goal is to piss uou off with his behavior both so he can poison the well on Archie discussion and so he has an excuse to ban you.
>>454564 Like I still think they should still have arguements as they still are a bit of opposites but Sonic being a caring listener to sallys feelings is really underrated.
>>454545 Yeah, that and the jpeg compression artifacts just makes it a nightmare to read >>454546 lmao >>454548 The superior Sonally! >>454550 Having them be their own Secret FF would be cool, especially if everyone thought they were dead >>454555 Some people just cannot accept that others like things they don't. That argument's so dumb anyway. None of the continuities will ever be truly canon, since the only canon that matters is our own headcanon. It would be nice if IDWkun would just take the hint and fuck off though >r*chm*nk Honestly that guy just needs to leave the fandom for good this time. He's been pissing off Sonic fan communities for nearly 30 years at this point. I suspect IDWkun talks about him so much because they've both been kicked out of nearly every Sonic community >>454559 Best storytime ever today, since it introduced my husbando Remmington! >>454562 Damn, I was not expecting that! We should complain about abandoned comics more often!
Ride website update: We've been at number 1 for number of visitors for a while now, but we've finally hit number 2 for page views! Also, I realized I missed one of our threads. I've added it to the archive now: https://the-ride.neocities.org/threads/131072567 >>454033 Spreadsheet listing all of the threads can be found here >>454569 It's so cheezy! >>454570 You can download the dump here: https://archive.org/download/archive-moe-database-201506 Fair warning, you'll need to delete `compression`='tokudb_zlib' if you want to import it into a modern mysql database
>>454574 Neat. Maybe I can find all those /co/ threads from June to September 2015! Then I can laugh at all the threads about SAO Season 2, Regular Show going to shit, and Pearl being a rapist.
>>454571 The fact that we assumed you were IDWkun isn't a good sign seriously, a lot of people are pissed at him and your username is easily searchable. Feel free to continue chatting with us, but expect hostility if you try to dictate how storytimes are run >>454575 Fun times! The spreadsheet's open for comments and I can give edit access if you want to add any more. I could also supply a database with all thread OPs that mention Sonic
>>454578 >>454579 It won't ever finish importing unless you remove compression`='tokudb_zlib' from the .sql file. That dump is almost a decade old and modern mysql isn't compatible. If you don't want to fiddle with all that I've added all the ops with Sonic in the op comment or in the title to an sqlite file here: https://the-ride.neocities.org/archive/sonic_ops.sqlite If you haven't used sqlite before, this is what I use to view and query things: https://sqlitebrowser.org/ >Yeah i will leave to the Conductor to make searchable The Conductor does the storytimes and finds comics, I just made the website and track down hard to find comics
>>454581 There's no way to search on archived.moe, so your options are to either import the entire /v/ database and search there, or use the one I created to find promising threads and paste their thread numbers into the archive like so: https://archived.moe/v/thread/thread_id If you want to know how to search using SQL, this query will make a new table called v_sonic_storytime_ops with (hopefully) all of them: DROP TABLE IF EXISTS v_sonic_storytime_ops; CREATE TABLE v_sonic_storytime_ops AS SELECT * FROM v_sonic_ops WHERE comment LIKE "%storytime%" OR comment LIKE "%ride%" OR comment LIKE "%marathon%" OR title LIKE "%storytime%" OR title LIKE "%ride%" OR title LIKE "%marathon%" OR name LIKE "%sonic%" OR name LIKE "%STC-Fag%" OR name LIKE "%ride%" OR name LIKE "%conductor%" OR name LIKE "%megadroid%" OR name LIKE "%Enchilada%" OR name LIKE "%Humbert%" OR name LIKE "%storytime%" OR name LIKE "%Hume%" OR name LIKE "%BigBoss%" OR name LIKE "%marathon%" OR name LIKE "%TardyCabooseman%";
>>454583 sonic_ops.sqlite shouldn't be giving you any trouble, it's only 8mb. You'll definitely be there a while if you're using the full v archive. That's 40gb of text to hunt through
>>454584 Yeah, i understimated the ammount of time and posts of the /v/ archive. Wanted to search some posts for nostalgia but can't really load with mysql and probably not much readable like some other 4chan archives. I just wanted to make those millions of /v/ posts mostly from 2012-2015 searchable lol, hope someone else someday fixes it.
>>454585 You need to delete `compression`='tokudb_zlib' from the dump text if you want to import it. I was able to get things working in mysql doing that. It still took a day to import though ;_;
>>454587 Yeah it freezes it because your version of mysql isn't from 2015 so it has no idea what to do with tokudb_zlib compression. Just delete that like I said and it'll work fine
>>454590 Here's the one I used to make the sqlite dump: DROP TABLE IF EXISTS v_sonic_ops; CREATE TABLE v_sonic_ops AS SELECT thread_num, timestamp, name, title, comment FROM v WERE op==1 AND (comment LIKE "%sonic%" OR title LIKE "%sonic%");
There's 1,657 /co/ threads and 18,399 /v/ threads to sift through
>>454592 Yeah, I used a high performance workstation and still had to clear out some files to make room on the ssd and even then it still took a day to import ;_;
>>454593 I'm just going to download them off archived.moe so I can get the thumbnails too, but you could write a query like this: DROP TABLE IF EXISTS v_ride_threads; CREATE TABLE v_ride_threads AS SELECT * from v WHERE thread_num IN ( 136245136,136280984,...,136311435); >>454595 No fun allowed means no fun allowed! Seriously though, he shouldn't be allowed on the Internet without adult supervision
I think it's fine to talk about this here but I have been working towards getting the series to update twice a week again. I won't get into the specifics but it hasn't been easy. Ideally things get back on track and when the comic updates twice a week, it's possible to keep that going. And dare I say that there's a chance at a separate series updating once a week alongside Sonic. That would require more money.
Sonic and the Freedom Fighters Note Sonic and Sally are the two characters that have been changed the most from their Archie counterparts. Sonic was incredibly stubborn and tend to put down others to make himself look good. He also got jealous a lot and picked petty fights. He even stole a girl that Antoine had a crush on (it wasn’t Bunnie). Sally wasn’t a saint either, she would argue and nag Sonic and they’d have a lot of fights. But they always got back together and it really seemed like Sonic liked the challenge Sally gave him. However, some Archie writers and editors liked to keep the drama going or didn’t want them together to begin with. It took a while after Ian became the main writer to get them back together (for a while). In this series, their really bad habits have been shaved off but I will have them butt heads a bit more in the future.
Grrr a cold front hit where I live it’s like 2 degrees Celsius and I’m frozen solid. What’s a guy gotta do to get Shoggothnic to come over here and share body warmth ;-;
>>454598 Ooh! That sounds dope. First and foremost take care of yourself, Conductor! The best way to avoid burnout is by taking it easy.
>>454359 Found a fan continuation of the comic and decided to storytime it in chunks over the coming days: >>454600 >>454598 Crap, I still haven't responded to your email yet ;_; Yeah, I'm really looking forward to getting back to two updates a week. It's been very interesting to see how the process works behind the scenes >spoiler I'd be sincerely grateful if some other anons would be able to contribute (if they're able to). For those that don't know, I've been funding a good chunk of the comic and while I'm obviously happy to continue, we could do so much more if we had a little more support >>454599 As much as I loved their original interpretations (Penders notwithstanding), it's nice having them slightly more well rounded. Makes the comic much more comfy >>454623 >What’s a guy gotta do to get Shoggothnic to come over here and share body warmth ;-; If only!
>>454623 I've been taking it easy every once in a while. >>454624 >I'd be sincerely grateful if some other anons would be able to contribute (if they're able to). For those that don't know, I've been funding a good chunk of the comic and while I'm obviously happy to continue, we could do so much more if we had a little more support It's going to be great when the rest of issue 4 is done because it'll open up a big buffer with the stuff done for issue 5 already. With a third artist, I can get a Knuckles series started but keeping it going long term will require more money and that depends on the third artist and their work speed. Right now the average is 3 pages every two weeks but ideally it can be 2-3 pages a week. 4 pages a week would be insane.
>>454683 I kinda feel bad about how our threads are really starting to clog up /co/ plus. By the time BH gets to making the sonic board by end of the year, it'll be way more crowded
>>454625 >It's going to be great when the rest of issue 4 is done because it'll open up a big buffer with the stuff done for issue 5 already. With a third artist, I can get a Knuckles series started but keeping it going long term will require more money and that depends on the third artist and their work speed. Right now the average is 3 pages every two weeks but ideally it can be 2-3 pages a week. 4 pages a week would be insane. Yeah, it's gonna be so rad! >>454645 Spooky! >>454683 Maybe do a spooky comic for the next thread? It is the season for it! >>454684 At least all of our threads will be moving over so it's just a temporary thing. Also, making new threads doesn't bump off the old ones so it's not like we're killing threads
>>454686 I had a look and 18/291 threads are ours so we've only taken up 6% of the board. Let's see if we can get it up to an even 10% by the end of the year!
