Another thread and this time we’ll be doing some TwiX stuff! This artist likes Shadow so we got a short comic of a jackal OC that wants revenge against him and some AU stuff where Maria is still alive. Anyway, this is Spear of Revenge!
>doing shit for a programming project >takes a while but im doing good so far in following a tutorial >fucker in video pastes a whole fuck ton of code for a class, thousands of lines out of nowhere >no idea where he got it from and double checked to make sure >wasted most of my day for fucking nothing I just wanted to make a music player...
This comic and art looks pretty nice. What is it with Shadow and Jackals
>>455833 And that's it! There's other stuff but not really comics so whatever. >>455831 >This comic and art looks pretty nice. What is it with Shadow and Jackals People really like Sonic Forces but not the actual game.
>>455726 Sonic Boom Overwhelmed Page 17-18 https://www.deviantart.com/emeraldessence That's all you thiiiink! That's all you can thiiiink! That's all you can thiiiink! >>455835 Seems like a common theme for a lot of Sonic stuff. The only missed potential for Sonic Mania is that there's no sequel.
Before yesterday's run, I actually thought Max and Lock knew each others, but no. Turns out the Brotherhood was in full hiding and it just happened that Max used the floating Islandas a second residence for vacation times.
I actually find this hilarious. So Sally really told no one about Knuckles, not even her family? It's like Knuckles was an imaginary friend for Sally...
>>455827 It kinda gives me the vibes that the comic is gonna go The Boys' route (the show, not the comics).
>>455831 >spoiler Has the same vibe as when I'm looking up DIY tutorials and the motherfuckers just pull up a resin setup or power tools with no previous indication it was needed.
>>455843 Gonna be real with y'all, I do not get the utter adoration the fandom has for Spaz's art for the Archie Sonic comics. Can't deny that his poses are extremely dynamic, but the questionable anatomy has always ruined it for me.
>>455845 Spaz gets praise because he was the best artist. yes his art could be wonky at times but he got way way better to make the most on model looking art there.
>>455819 Claiming Spire, I can correct him! >>455824 Nooo! >>455827 Damn, Shadow Chaos Spear'd his arm clean off >>455831 >spoiler Damn, sorry to hear that. I absolutely hate the move from text-based tutorials to videos >>455835 Really, they just needed a few more cutscenes, a Chaos battle with Classic Sonic, better classic physics (i.e., no speed cap), and better (and longer) level design >>455840 Looks like the full image didn't download from desuarchive. I've fixed it now, thanks for letting me know! >>455841 >When opened in a new tab it's fine. That's because clicking on the image link opens the one from desuarchive, in case anyone wants the original
>>455842 Yeah, that's mostly us meming since they're both terrible xenophobic parents who make dumb decisions. That and that one artist shipping them made way too much sense >>455844 >DIY tutorials That's the worst. I get all psyched up to make something only to be disappointed I'm supposed to drop a ton of money on expensive tool I'll probably never use again >>455845 Honestly I like that it's a bit weird and wonky in places, gives it a lot of charm >>455848 Yeah, that was odd
>>455842 We haven't gotten to it yet but there is a panel showing Max and Locke talking in the past. I always assumed that was why Max went there. And in Sonic 44, Sally says she kept quiet to protect Knuckles because he wasn't supposed to talk to outsiders as part of his apprenticeship.
>>455850 YAY YOU'RE STILL UPDATING YAY! >I have no intention of stopping, in other words, even if the update schedule has been pushed to a two-week period for right this minute! To put a long story short, I’ve got some health issues that make it hard to stay at my desk & consistently work on stuff, & I don’t quite have the means to fix those issues right this minute. So I’m pushin’ through with what I’ve got, without putting myself into burnout! That’s why it’s taking a little bit, but everyone has been incredibly patient, & I’m always grateful for all the feedback I get in the meantime.
>>455861 It's a show that's sidelined Amy into alternate versions that aren't interested in Sonic while having Shadow princess carry Sonic. They had to know what they were doing. We all know Sonic x Dread is endgame though
>>455861 Anyone sane knows nothing will come of it, but it's still really funny they're acting so feral over it when Shadow has made it clear he fucking hates Prime Sonic.
>>455865 You hate to see it! >>455868 I try not to thirstpost too much about him since it's a real person's Sonicsona, but he's absolutely adorable! >>455869 Pretty sure we can expect more Sonadow art >Shadow has made it clear he fucking hates Prime Sonic He's just tsun!
>>455865 Not sure if it's Pixy since it seems poignantly lacking in malice. Some poor bastard is having a psychotic episode and they're stuck having it in the same thread with a bunch of Sonic characters.
>>455869 Yeah this. It's fun to imagine they're fucking but Prime!Shadow keeps making his hatred very clear and Prime!Sonic is a little slut himbo that gets touchy with pretty much everyone who isn't related to Eggman. Sometimes the tsundere ain't a tsundere, sometimes they genuinely hate your guts!
>>455871 >Not sure if it's Pixy since it seems poignantly lacking in malice. Yeah, on second reading it's clearly someone having a rough time >Sometimes the tsundere ain't a tsundere, sometimes they genuinely hate your guts! B-but unhealthy one-sided Sonadow is a cornerstone of the genre!
>>455873 I just hope that, if it's real and not shitposting, whoever it is gets medical attention. Stuff like that makes me sad because all you can really do is sit and watch.
>B-but unhealthy one-sided Sonadow is a cornerstone of the genre! Shit, you're right! Carry on then!
>>455874 >I just hope that, if it's real and not shitposting, whoever it is gets medical attention. Stuff like that makes me sad because all you can really do is sit and watch. Yeah, it's massively frustrating not being able to do anything, assuming it's real >Shit, you're right! Carry on then! One day we'll get an official same-sex romance, although it'll probably be Silver and some other twink >>455875 Ha!
Found a rendering tutorial that really wasn't made for my program of choice but it didn't stop me from creating this BOI
I've been recuperating my strength (AKA trying to beat a depressive slump) via lurking here and playing the bear twink game exclusively. Incorporated some vitamins to my daily routine and already I'm seeing some improvement.
>>455865 >It seems like Pixy is having a fucking psychotic break in the thread right now. I think it is him because his last post was right at bump limit and then it stops. He's been known to eat up bumps to kill a thread faster. While it would be nice if it lasted for several more hours, it's not that big of a deal.
>>455878 Shoggothnic my beloved! Love how you were able to convey his happiness through his many eyes and mouths. Noxt an expert, but the shading looks great, and the underlighting and purple bits are a nice touch >I've been recuperating my strength Glad to hear that! I never seem to recognize the warning signs until I'm in the middle of one >Incorporated some vitamins to my daily routine and already I'm seeing some improvement. I really need to do that instead of just leaving them in the bottle >>455879 I guess it could've been him. I did make some catty comments about his schizo-posting being low-effort lately
I won't announce it yet but it seems I'm finally able to get the series to update twice a week. When page 23 is done, there will be a 10 page buffer. Thanks to the second artist, I can have them do some pages of the main series. The third artist could do a Knuckles series. >>455878 That looks great! I've always found getting stuff done to a good way to get out of that funk. Less things to worry about and favorable results can lift a mood. Not to be dependent on something but coffee helps me get that bit of motivation to start working. >>455880 >I guess it could've been him. I did make some catty comments about his schizo-posting being low-effort lately I always think about why something is happening. And the fact it stopped when it did led me to believe it is the schizo. >>455882 Being a gentleman helping in the slightest goes a long way for some girls.
>>455880 Thank you! It was really fun making him look so happy. Despite the weirdness of the method used I really do like how it makes the shading look, I might use it again!
>I never seem to recognize the warning signs until I'm in the middle of one Just like me fr fr. Didn't even realize I was in the middle of one until someone else came up to me and told me I looked like I was down. I gotta work on introspection to be able to notice one without help, honestly.
>I really need to do that instead of just leaving them in the bottle It's just so tempting to the depression-addled brain, isn't it? They're just perfectly tucked away, so easy to forget they're there unless you put them right in your line of sight 24/7. That said sometimes what helps is changing presentation, I've tried capsules and packets you can put on your drink, but what worked for me was gummies, likewise I've met people to whom gummies just never worked out.
>I guess it could've been him. I did make some catty comments about his schizo-posting being low-effort lately IDWkun took it to heart so deeply he broke his mind via tulpaforcing in order to show you he is good at it!
>>455883 Thank you anon! I've been feeling a lot better this week, hopefully the upcoming holidays give me all the more time to take it easy and drawing more of best boy.
>>455885 Thank you Conductor! Honestly if I'm dependent on anything beyond my silly little franchises about anthropomorphic animals it's definitely caffeine. I drink either coffee or matcha nearly everyday, lmao.
>>455881 Thanks! I should probably clarify that clicking on the image filename shows the desuarchive image. This is so readers can get an image that can be posted on 4chan since my expanded images are in avif format to save space (these avif images are on average 20% the size of the originals, it's pretty much magic) >>455885 >I won't announce it yet but it seems I'm finally able to get the series to update twice a week. Oh boy! >The third artist could do a Knuckles series. yes_hahaha_yes.png >I always think about why something is happening. And the fact it stopped when it did led me to believe it is the schizo. You'd think he'd realize he's saving us the effort of archiving the threads. Also, he needs to charge his phone, that's genuinely irritating me >>455886 >Thank you! It was really fun making him look so happy. Despite the weirdness of the method used I really do like how it makes the shading look, I might use it again! It's always nice to try a new technique, especially if it ends up working well >Just like me fr fr. Didn't even realize I was in the middle of one until someone else came up to me and told me I looked like I was down. I gotta work on introspection to be able to notice one without help, honestly. Yeah, these things sneak up so insidiously it's generally others that notice first. Frankly I need to hang up a big sign to remind me to check how messy the kitchen is since there's a 100% correlation there >They're just perfectly tucked away, so easy to forget they're there unless you put them right in your line of sight 24/7. Ha, that's it exactly! I'll have to try the gummies >IDWkun took it to heart so deeply he broke his mind via tulpaforcing in order to show you he is good at it! All part of my 99 step Kira-esque plan to mindbreak him into the perfect live-in servant! That's why maidposting is so important!
>Script: Dan Parent, Ian Flynn I'm sure this is nothing... but here me out... Also, Archie seriously only has five comics for December with new stories in them? And given the number of pages, the majority of them all are reprints.
And yeah, I've been depressed for a while now - it gets even worse since it lets intrusive thoughts come easier. It's sometimes easy to ignore it, but for me, it never truly goes away.
Nicole vs Sage Page 29 https://www.deviantart.com/b1uewhirlwind Listen, when you're being a badass, you don't have time to come up with any original one liners.
>>455914 And barely anything happened in this last batch, at points it feels like is just mindless fight scenes for a plot that could be told in less time.
Watching SatAM and I got to a part where the following happens >Sonic: "I've been thinking..." >Sally: "Oh, Trying something new are we? I laughed so fucking hard. I love them. Speaking of that, just curious conductor, when did you first started to like sonally? The show or the comic first? Also care to deep dive on your love for their dynamic and why to make it so big part of your comic
>>455929 Mainly the comic. I just like how Sally interacts with Sonic. Very spicy and Sonic loves it. As for making it a big part of the comic, I just wanted to have romance along with action and Sally allows that.
>>455900 I'm not caught up in the 8chan/8kun/8chan.moe drama but it's nice to see there are other imageboards interested in talking about the blue rat. I'll take a look around to see if there's any ideas we can use for our board. Oh, and they've got a fancomic thread too! https://8chan.moe/fast/res/11131.html >>455907 Fun fact, IDWkun got upset when I accused him of being a bot >>455914 NO, I DEMAND A TIMESKIP EPISODE WITH NINE! I just want more WWMH Tails bros ;_; >>455920 >>455921 Same >>455925 I actually like him, even if his characterization is wildly different to other Sonics. He is borderline special needs though
>>455934 I guess most people have moved on to social media, probably because it's more convenient and just as much of a hellscape as modern 4chan. It's a shame, since imageboards are such a comfy format
I fucking hate those sonic accounts in Twitter that keep asking questions like “which ship is better!” Etc. they keep fucking up me looking for fan art and I hate seeing them
>>455942 Well, he's been kicked off every other Sonic forum so why not there too >>455944 They really should've made Cream Amy, Blaze or Shadow's sidekick. Kind and polite isn't really that interesting by itself >>455945 lmao >>455948 We know Eclipse! >>455949 >Probably still mandated to not be funny. Him being tsun is what makes him fun!
Even though there's not much left of the Knuckles series, I think I'll no longer start with any Knuckles issues and even save them for last. That won't help when Penders gets more active in the Sonic issues and continues his Knuckles stories in that.
Why did Penders think ripping off a holocaust poem was a good fucking idea? He derailed the comic so fucking hard with that offensive shit. I'm still kinda interested in some things but the comic quality just tanked there for me.
>>455952 Penders has ambition but he lacks self awareness. He doesn't think how others will receive his work and he probably doesn't care. That's the kind of thinking that had him wanting to kill off Sally. His bigger problem is favoring his characters over the ones others have created. That's what I've noticed as the Knuckles series went on. Knuckles got sidelined and as someone else mentioned, the Chaotix barely do anything. They just stand around and talk but are nowhere around when the action kicks in. His narcissism is something else and it led to his downfall. If he worked on that then he'd still be writing for Sonic. Ian might have never gotten a chance to work for Archie. He could've even muscled Bollers out of the writing spot if he was really devious.
>>455954 Penders seriously needed a tard wrangler to tell him no when writing that shit. And it does suck the star of the comic, starts to get fucking sidelined and so his friends. They're could've been a balance but penders would not budge in shilling his characters. Cant believe he wanted to replace Eggman with Dr. Droid! I hate that while reading theres glimmers of actual good stuff.
Knuckles for one being peeved off at all this myterious bullshit, and the brotherhood having legit reasons to stay so secret and having someone like spectre disagree with the grandpas. Problem is, he makes Knuckles just accept that bullshit and only until recently did spectre do anything, which was very based. He's the best one there. But for the rest, they talk about doing things for the greater good but do nothing and expects us to see that as good. It's frustrating.
And it just makes me mad that Knuckles having to deal with his people is a genuinely good idea and direction for the character than just guarding his dumb rock. I havent played chronicles yet but I hear it does that aspect well and wouldve done more with his people on earth after it before penders decided to fuck things up. Knuckles is doomed to never do anything interesting again and some would point to frontiers, but knowing the games, it wont go anywhere. Being a Knuckles fan is suffering.
>>455958 Penders made enemies out of a lot of people but he was his own worst enemy. And now we're seeing the pushing of OCs in IDW. Funny how history repeats itself.
>>455959 He just cant help himself >And now we're seeing the pushing of OCs in IDW. Funny how history repeats itself I've advocated better character balance for comic originals and game characters but god, I just cant care for the idw characters. Diamond cutters suck with their new member, sheep tits, making it worse. And for diet scourge and her simp being a fucking disapointment and jokes that lost all their credibility as bad guys. What a giant fuck up.
>>455959 IDW can't really make their OCs relevant. So much that it's actually detrimental to the comic. The OCs are necessarily always going to be nobodies in the greater context of the series even inside the setting of the comics. And they also can't ever have any meaningful interactions with a game character, to the point where two IDW minis revolve around OCs talking to each other and the other revolves around 2 game characters by themselves.
I'm almost sure that it's mostly a Sega thing rather than just IDW too, so I can't even blame them.
>>455960 We've gotten out of publication order quite a bit. For example, the Image crossover was done a lot earlier than when it was printed. We're also doing the Knuckles issues so their arcs aren't broken up by Sonic issues. >>455961 In cases such as that, I place all the blame on the writers. It's obvious they have more freedom since the OCs don't have nearly as many restrictions but that doesn't excuse how badly they're written. At least Penders gets negative responses from some of his OCs while somehow writing some genuinely good characters. The IDW OCs generate some anger but then apathy.
>>455963 Its the writers fault for making surge change her motivation every other issue and get beaten to made out to be a joke even when sonic is weak and shes all powered up. What were they thinking. Also its a meme but actually true with whisper crying all the fucking time and being sad for tangle to be there too. And lanolin, she really is the geoffrey of the comic and makes it worse for existing.
>>455962 But look at Monkey Khan. He's got simple stories that likely wouldn't trigger any mandates and I find much more interesting. The last story we covered was all OCs. And it's drawn and written by someone I know nothing about. A good writer can work within restraints and whenever Ian and Evan get a chance to do so, they don't. I understand that they get screwed over here and there but some bad decisions they've made is obviously their fault. I'll happily blame SoJ for a lot of stuff but I'm not letting those two off the hook. You can also lay some blame on the editors as well.
>>455964 Imagine Lanolin getting really close to Amy and taking her on missions and Sonic starts feeling left out. Of course you can't have Amy and Lanolin making out in front of him but the comic has done romantic undertones so that could be done. And then Sonic and Lanolin fight for some reason, neither win, and Amy breaks them apart. Then Lanolin and Amy start hugging while Sonic is fuming.
>>455965 >He's got simple stories that likely wouldn't trigger any mandates I don't think you understand how bad Sega's autistic micromanaging can be, remember that Shadow had to be rewritten out of an arc where he was going to do nothing but sit down and watch a bunch of Chao doing tricks.
Also remember that this is a company that caused multiple others to go bankrupt before, including themselves. Archie could casually give game characters their own families and love interests and have entire arcs made around those things.
I know our threads are mostly Archie fans but I don’t wanna seem like I entirely dislike idw for “not being muh Archie”. I gave it a reading as it’s own thing but I just don’t like what I read. Just boring stories and mid stories and awful shit like the eggperial arc made me actually quit giving a real fuck about it.. That along the classic pandering shit is genuinely tiring to keep seeing.
>>455968 >Shadow But that's Shadow, the most notoriously heavily mandated character, not an original character like Monkey Khan is. He has his supporting cast and even villains. A better comparison would be the IDW original characters. The restrictions we know about would be not being able to beat Sonic or Eggman but when you have Iron King and Iron Queen then you don't have that problem. And that's another thing, killing off Starline really sucked. I also didn't like how he was so reliant on Eggman's tech, even when he was working on his own stuff. And then that 900th Adventure issue got rid of the Warp Topaz, as if saying Starline is never ever ever coming back.
>>455969 I do wonder how people who have very little exposure to Archie view IDW. I can see IDW's flaws without thinking about Archie. But what about others that have IDW Sonic as their first and only experience to the franchise in comic form? >>455971 SatAM focused on Sonic and Sally and no so much the others. There's very little character development and then it ends after a couple seasons. Would Archie be remembered as much if it stopped at issue 50? Maybe earlier? I think SatAM would be more fondly remembered if it got a few more seasons and improved upon things. But Archie is as close to a continuation of the cartoon series as you can get.
>>455972 The various clans, the lion guy and fox girl, that brother and sister he was with in the last story. And of course Iron King and Iron Queen. Just make her a badger or whatever. Not bad for a few stories about Monkey Khan.
>>455970 >The restrictions we know about I see people talking about this and honestly I think it's nothing but wishful thinking of fans, unwilling to accept that Sega who reviews every single issue individually before they're released might be tanking the overall quality of the comic with their demands that might be or not completely arbitrary and chaotic, despite this happening before in multiple instances with other companies, sometimes to disastrous outcomes.
>>455977 I'm not 100% sure what you're trying to say but I think I might. If you take out everything that only Ian has said and only focus on stuff that others have said and even the changes made because of it, there are plenty. Shadow wasn't allowed to be on a team with Rouge and Omega and Amy took his spot. The writers for both Sonic Boom and Sonic Prime have talked about how Shadow was heavily restricted. And there's minor stuff like Marine not being allowed to appear at the end of the Metal Virus arc because they don't want characters getting their first appearance at the end of an arc. And there's the change to Blaze's mouth in the reprint for an issue. We've also heard about Sega wanting artists using 3D game models and sticking to that but you can file that under "take this with a grain of salt."
>>455978 The Blaze mouth thing was pretty funny, I couldn't believe it at first. Imagine how hellish must it be to work on a comic about silly cartoon animals where drawing one of their faces a bit to cartoony might trigger someone at SoJ.
>>455971 I still prefer SatAM, but Archie simply has more. Either ways, it's weird to me to try to put the two against each others when they share so much DNA and sometimes are almost indistinguishable.
>>455983 Yardley's been told to change his faces a few times I can remember. The Sonic crying during Ian's 25 Years Later arc, one panel of Sonic running mad and his mouth had to be moved, and of course pic related. Not sure if it was editorial or Sega for each of them.
>>455958 >Penders seriously needed a tard wrangler to tell him no when writing that shit. He had Mike Kanterovich at the start and you can really see his bat habits start to form when he starts writing solo >>455962 That's why Rough and Tumble are the only OCs that really work. They've got cool designs, but don't overshadow the main cast; are villains, but clearly not an Eggman-level threat; have a cool rhyming gimmick and great chemistry, but don't overstay their welcome since they're not in every issue. I'm obviously biased though >>455963 >The IDW OCs generate some anger but then apathy. That's their main problem. They're hyped up as competent new heroes that are on Sonic's level, but spend most issues talking in front of gradient voids >>455965 100% this. If other writers can make stories like Scrapnik Island, then it's not a mandates issue >>455976 Not the Konductor, but Shadow's got his own team with Rouge and Omega, villains like Black Doom, and working for GUN means there's a lot of enemies for them to fight that aren't Eggman >>455979 Is he? I know some people aren't happy with his use of 3d models or rounder style >>455985 See this one I do agree with, Sonic's fucking creepy here. >>455988 Plap fucking plap! >>455989 There's a reason yaoi is written for and by women >>455995 Sonic you moody bitch. I love you so much!
Last arc and issue Knuckles 25 really cemented the knuckles comic being mid. It's a shame, i was generally enjoying it until the derailment and repeating of the brotherhood doing the same talking each time. I wanted to see remington and julie-su get more development as I really like them from their appearances but its actually crazy how sidelined they get pretty quickly, espically julie. Fucking sad, she isnt that bad and pretty decent.
>>456014 >Not the Konductor, but Shadow's got his own team with Rouge and Omega, villains like Black Doom, and working for GUN means there's a lot of enemies for them to fight that aren't Eggman Sadly none of that is allowed because Sega is overly protective of him and want him to be as one dimensional as possible. >>456015 >I couldn't help myself! Well that and the anon posting a bunch of images are making sure the thread won't last the night. Yay?
>>456018 It's fine, I can't stop you and it does help on days that are very slow. Those that can't make the thread until much later only have themselves to blame.
>>456016 It gets worse towards the end of the Knuckles series, but picks up again once it's in the main books >>456017 >Sadly none of that is allowed because Sega is overly protective of him and want him to be as one dimensional as possible. >Well that and the anon posting a bunch of images are making sure the thread won't last the night. Yay? That's why I multipost, otherwise half the thread would be mine. I'd prefer the threads last longer but anons have desuarchive and the website if they want to catch up. Frankly, I'd prefer if we had the actual discussions here but it's a slow process
>>456020 >Sadly none of that is allowed because Sega is overly protective of him and want him to be as one dimensional as possible. Whoops. Didn't paste this in. I suspect they still don't know what to do with him. He's supposed to work for GUN, but they don't want to actually show GUN anymore. It's such a shame because having Team Dark go on missions to exotic locations is exactly what's needed to flesh out the world. Surely Eggman isn't the only threat to the planet and Sonic can't be everywhere at once
Shadow is such a weird character. Sometimes he works with others like with gun and team dark but is supposed to be a loner otherwise. Problem is that he does fucking nothing in those periods. There’s no stories of shadow doing shit by himself meeting people like sonic does, nothing. It only happens when he’s with some other established character and then he can appear on screen. Like what is the point of him if he does fuck all most of the time?
Also to add more, with GUN as of now, none existent, and rouge and eventually probably omega will hang out with sonic more. meaning shadow will appear less and less since they don’t do any stories of his alone travels. So weird.
>>456023 That's why him being part of Team Dark and working for GUN works. It makes coming up with stories for him so easy and gives him a place and surrounded by people that care for him. >>456024 Shadow is the Wolverine of the franchise. He's not the main character but the edgy guy that came along and became wildly popular. Imagine if Marvel just stopped using Wolverine.
>>455949 Sonic Boom Overwhelmed Page 20 https://www.deviantart.com/emeraldessence This entire comic feels less like a Sonic Boom comic and more like a typical Sonic comic. Oh well, at least we have Egg Dimension! Actually that doesn't feel like a Sonic Boom comic either.
>>456021 Yeah, that's what I'm hoping for >>456023 He's not too bad on his own since he's very introspective so he'll talk/think to himself a lot. We only really see it in his game and 06 though >>456024 They did mention GUN in Frontiers so maybe they're willing to do something with the concept again. Oh, and not everyone gets this, but the reason Ian doesn't think Team Dark's a thing is because he's good at misrepresenting things and Sega's terrible at explaining things. Functionally, Shadow, Rouge and Omega often work together and are close, but they're not an official team. Technically only Shadow is confirmed to work for GUN. In 06 Rouge isn't a part of GUN, she's just on loan (probably from the President). They'll obviously work together for missions (06, Forces) and even go racing together (TSR), but Shadow and Rouge have different bosses so they're not Team™ Dark™. I suspect that's why there are restrictions on showing them as a trio in IDW, but that's mostly because Sega didn't want GUN to be mentioned >>456025 >Shadow is the Wolverine of the franchise 100% this >>456029 It's so good! I love that KrazyELF doesn't make Knuckles an exclusive top just because he's bigger and more muscular than Sonic >>456030 l-lewd!
>>456037 It's so polarizing to see statements that they arent friends but official stuff like this comes out too. Also to be completely honest, Im not a fan of Rouge becoming apart of the "gang". Like I get her fans (coomers) want her to interact with characters that arent omega and shadow but her being with sonics main group starting with prime feels even more forced than team dark could ever be. It also erases the few bits of her having a gray side even more. Which they always refused to ever truly follow through with (like with most things in this franchise)
She (and shadow for that matter) cant never do anything morally questionable or something another character would say "wow, that was very fucking shitty of you to do". And before you say anything, Im asking for rouge to mass murder or some shit, but do a form of bad that an average good character would heavily disagree with. Something that give them an actual distinction. I guess its kind of hopeless to expect though because the fans would reeee and general tendacy of this franchise to have mid writing so Ill always have a bit of a dislike for her.
>>456038 Yeah, that's the problem. Anything coming out from Sega has been (poorly) translated across a cultural and linguistic barrier but (almost) everything from Ian and others working on the comics is biased and inaccurate. I'm not even sure if the "they're not friends" even came from Sega. In their bios, Shadow and Rouge have each other as their most trusted/important person so even if they don't braid each other's hair, they obviously care about each other and regularly work together.
Having Rouge in the Dreams game is really just them needing a girl Knuckles to go with girl Sonic (Amy) and girl Tails (Cream), and in Prime they never really explained what her deal was. Does she live in Green Hill too? Is she part of the Sonic and friends™ group or does she just drop by occasionally? I don't think we even get to see her interact with Shadow, which is a wasted opportunity to cement their current official relationship
It would be nice to see Rouge pull off some heists or for them to be more explicit with Shadow going too far. He (probably?) did kill all of Infinite's team in Forces, but they shy away from confirming anything
>>456041 Theres always a bit of weirdness. But there is something I do wanna say, I trust what Ian says more on actual behind the scenes stuff than random fucks on the chans (no offense to you). Because if ian was really lying this much about stuff and considered disrepecting sonic team as much as people say he does. He would have been fired YEARS ago as they for sure pay attention to what he says regarding the franchise. fans tend to leave out that he always does say things do change at a whim too, and I feel some are too stubborn with changes happens, specially lore ones. Yes her being in dream team does seem to be a type thing and in Prime she's clearly a friend as she's seen hanging out with them before the shatter as a super close friend than she usually is. Shadow did kill that squad. He destroyed them.
Konductor! I've cleaned up the two Archie minis and put them in the Mega. I suggest running them before the Sabrina comic >>456040 Sorted! >>456042 No worries, I'm not offended. I only go by what I see in the actual games and occasionally what the official twitter says. Even the interviews with Iizuka/Kishimoto/etc are pretty unreliable since the translations are garbage >He would have been fired YEARS ago as they for sure pay attention to what he says regarding the franchise Honestly, he's mega unprofessional on his podcast and I'm guessing they don't fire him since he's better behaved on twitter where more people pay attention. It's an odd situation where I feel Sega knows it isn't communicating well with the West, but isn't willing to change how they do things. They're definitely using Tailstube to correct some of the stuff Ian's gotten wrong though >fans tend to leave out that he always does say things do change at a whim too That's where I disagree with him, but I get not everyone sees things that way >Shadow did kill that squad. He destroyed them. He did, but it could've been handled better. I get that they can't show him snapping necks, but it would've been nice to have Infinite say something later in Shadow's DLC about getting revenge for his fallen comrades (unless he did and I missed it)
>>456017 >Sadly none of that is allowed because Sega is overly protective of him the recently released bio provide some actual wiggle room to actually allow it.
It was weird seeing people getting upset by it when it basically confirm "Yeah, they make a team". I just see it as Shadow being mega-tsundere or something "Yeah I just risked my life to save yours, but only because I see you as an asset to protect the earth just like MUUURIAH! wanted it, it's not like I am your friend or something... baka"
What a cute couple! Forget Sonally, we're a Strikarry house now! >>456044 Three hours now >>456047 It was weird, but not unexpected. Some fans will complain about anything. Shadow and Rouge are very close, it's just that Shadow's tsun. If anything, Rouge probably finds it endearing
>On quiet nights in Sandopolis, you can faintly hear two male voices upon the air. Those voices belong to General Helmut Von Stryker and his boyfriend Harry, as the former hits his spot with great precision (not to mention intensity).
>>456043 >Konductor! I've cleaned up the two Archie minis and put them in the Mega. I suggest running them before the Sabrina comic Okay. That means I'll have to change what else I post again. Maybe I'll just add an issue of Sonic and save the next Knuckles arc for the next thread.
4chan's been down for 5.5 hours now. I wonder what they do with the jannies? Do they get paid time off? Hew hew >>456056 >FNAF Oh no, my greatest weakness: zoomer culture! >>456057 Gotta keep you on your toes!
>>456058 I think I'll break a Knuckles arc and have the first part in the thread afterwards. That way the big Sonic reveal can go uninterrupted. >next thread = crossover stuff and sonic 73 >thread after = sonic 74-75 and knuckles 26 >after that = sonic 76-77 and knuckles 27-28
>>455996 SoJ despises the idea of Sonic displaying more emotions than "vaguely snarky". For a long fucking time, they didn't even let his (or other mobians) ears emote - not until after the movies, at least.
>>455932 >demonic satanist Eggman is actually the servant of a universe devouring cosmic horror >oh, and he also eats Sonics. Exclusively What in God's name is this comic
>>456082 Wow, that was unexpected. I wonder if anyone's seen the trailer for The Lost Ones movie? >>456083 lmao, we've corrupted so many >>456086 He'd need fancy CGI armor first! >>456092 We could always split the difference and call him a bara!
>tfw did nothing but self destructively looked for things that make me mad and goofed off the entire day At least the storytimes will make feel better I guess...
>>456099 I still don't get how he thought this was acceptable. Imagine subjecting the Sega execs to this. FYI if you mute it, you'll get to see some Penders animation storyboards over stock photos >>456100 I've been trying to find a copy for a while now but no luck. You can see some of it here though: https://robotnik-mun.tumblr.com/tagged/Let%27s%20Review%20The%20Lost%20Ones >>456101 Yeah, I do that a lot
>>456109 Imagine if The Lost Ones did take off and Penders ditched Archie to pursue that series. And when it failed, he tried to go back but couldn't. >>456110 And imagine if Penders thought you were a curious friend and he liked talking to you about all sorts of Sonic stuff.
>>456110 I'd rather not talk to him or give him money. He deliberately got my favorite comic canceled because he was jealous it survived without him and I'll never forgive him for that. >>456111 >Imagine if The Lost Ones did take off and Penders ditched Archie to pursue that series. And when it failed, he tried to go back but couldn't. Man, that would've been awesome. If he was less lazy he easily could've got 4-6 issues out before it was canceled, which would've been plenty of time for Flynn to establish himself at Archie >And imagine if Penders thought you were a curious friend and he liked talking to you about all sorts of Sonic stuff. Horrifying!
IDK if any of you remember but the other day I mentioned reading archie and mentioning how I didnt understand the narrative that he was this big jerk the entire time without much good. and I was refering to old debates of archie and fleetway being the source of seeing it. After some tracking down, I found this image of an example of what I was talking about. I still dont get it.
>>456116 The stuff that contributes to the narrative that Archie Sonic is a jerk is under 5%, probably even less. It's just some bad stuff he did scattered across hundreds of issues where he's otherwise a really nice guy. Also character assassination by some writers. Fleetway Sonic is an ass but it's because he's dedicated to being a hero and he cares very much about saving everyone no matter how much they annoy him. He has difficulty opening up to people and his mouth is how he copes. I do wish he was nicer to Tails though but it's all banter.
>anti ian tumblr cult having a massive circlejerk meltdown over surge in dash and evans tweet about it I really should stay away but laughing at these losers is just too good. They are literally OBSESSED
>>456117 Couldn't agree more. Sonic has some jerk moments but they're few and far between over the course of 20+ years. That said, Ian does write him as a bit of a jerk to Tails. It's pretty apparent just how patronizing he Sonic treats Tails in that one Boom episode he wrote >Fleetwaynic I think most people just don't get that the banter with his friends is intended to be affectionate. It's very different to the banter he has with Robotnik and other villains >>456119 You wouldn't think adding a character to a mobile game would cause so much salt, but here we are
>>456120 >I think most people just don't get that the banter with his friends is intended to be affectionate. Well, he did make Porker cry and apologized about it. I have no problem with him being a snarky ass because a lot of characters deserve it. But not Tails or Porker. At least Tails got snarky towards the end.
>>456121 Yeah, he should've known Porker wasn't in a place to be receptive to the banter but at least he did apologize. Agreed about most of the other characters, you could easily argue the townsfolk were the real villains. >At least Tails got snarky towards the end. See that's what I think the intention partially was, to get them good at bantering. One thing that's common to all Robotniks is that they're weak to banter and frustrate easily, and that's when they make mistakes
>>456122 Fleetway Sonic was also very concerned about his image and being the top hero. When he came back from the Special Zone and heard that Tails was doing well on his own, he refused to believe it. I liked how STCO continued that and Sonic supported him in that. I also like how Sonic was nicer to Charmy than the Chaotix were even though he also found Charmy incredibly annoying.
>>456130 >Balls Lol. So this seems like "What if Skypatrol happened before Tails met Sonic" and Witchcart replaced Eggman, sounds like it could be fun, hopefully that anon will make more
>>456125 Yeah, both Fleetway and Archie Sonics are a bit egotistical, although I think part of it is to boost morale. STCO did a great job evolving the partnership into mutual respect. The Charmy thing was pretty cute too >>456131 What a lovely little comic! Great backstory for Witchcart that contrasts with Robotnik's, and it's nice to see Tails so confident. Really hope we see more
>>456137 Was that not clear in Forces? Infinite's entire plan was to make his OTP a reality! Oh, and here's a censored version of Infinite doing his best
>>456141 Her title's Empress Dowager so she's either the mother or widow of the Emperor. This title sometimes grants regency so she could've been ruling. My best guess is Julayla's Sally's grandmother and was ruling after Max was lost. Because she's died, Sally's now Empress/Princess Regent/Queen Regent
>>456143 It took me three goes to read that, and I don't even like breasts that much! I've honestly got no idea how Tower gets any work done with all those sexy Mobians around >>456144 The perfect balance of edgy drama and sexiness
>>456142 >My best guess is Julayla's Sally's grandmother On the father's side, apparently. While the Duchess title likely belong to Elias's wife, I was a bit confused by the mention of an Empress in plus of the Empress Dowager in the listing of those took part in the march, until I realised Nicole is talking in present tense and referring to Sally per her current tittle of Empress.
Everything is now clearer, now, but hey, at least it give me an excuse to repost this picture of Sally.
>>456146 Yeah, that makes more sense now. I skipped the green text because it was hard to read >at least it give me an excuse to repost this picture of Sally That's the spirit! I'm glad we have here to post because there's no way Sally's assets are getting past the 4chan janny >>456147 Sold, but I'm claiming the redheaded cat/fox on the right!
>>456151 Yeah, anything containing busty Mobian ladies is a no-go over there. Buff Mobian dudes too now, since a few of the Stryker images I posted got deleted. They really hate our threads, but can't really get rid of us since we're the most popular thread on the board (and represent 3% of all posts), with the Murder Drones being a close second
>>456156 IIRC they win but everyone dies. Then Silver goes to his time period and enjoys 10 years of peace before going back in time to prevent the war from happening which makes him cease to exist.
>>456162 https://>>>/4chan/co/133049256 My memory is hazy and other anons like Thirstposter have read all of the summaries but here's the brief pieces from each issue that has been written. The whole thing is planned out and there's no way the artist will cover the entire series.
The Archie mini crossovers were to promote their properties and the Sabrina crossover was a desperate attempt to boost her dying comic. What was the point of the Image crossover again?
>>456167 >What was the point of the Image crossover again? The reason was "Why the hell not" and it was too late when they could come up with an actual answer.
Minor website news: We've just passed 500k visitors and 985k pageviews on the website. Almost at 1 million! Looking at the numbers, the engagement's way up ever since we started the Archie Ride
>>456176 Not accurate at all in my experience, and I've read through the entire run over 5 times. Archie's extremely inconsistent if anything. It's most apparent in the Knuckles comics where we'll have interesting arcs with dumb moments followed by terrible arcs with the occasional good moment. Even the issues with Geoffrey creeping on Sally are fairly fun outside the panels with him. Of course we also have absolutely garbage specials like Live and the Image crossover, but those can also be ignored
>>456156 They win, but Enerjak gets summoned and kills everyone and even though Enerjak is eventually beaten, he's exterminated all species on Mobius barring hedgehogs and echidnas since Manik and Knuxkles' daughter end up repopulating the planet, which incidentally makes Silver a direct descendant of theirs. Silver gets his future and its peaceful and happy, but again, there are only hedgehogs and echidnas on Mobius (and I guess Mogul too, since nobody kills him) so whilst he enjoys his 10 years of peace in his future, he eventually resolves to fix everything for good and saves everyone by going back in time one last time, which ultimately erases him from existence since he'd never be born without the circumstances leading to Manik and Lara-Su repopulating Mobius.
>>456178 ;_; I kinda want to make one for IDW but I'd be too biased >>456196 That's exactly why I don't really enjoy the story anymore. Knowing almost everyone dies and none of it even matters because Silver erases everything with his sacrifice just leaves a bad taste in my mouth >>456197 Yeah, that's how it goes unfortunately
>>456203 lmao, that's wonderfully unhinged! I thought it was obvious that each of Sonic's friends is in charge of a different shatterspace. Rebel's in charge of the resistance in New Yolk City, Dread's captain of his ship, and jungle Amy's in charge of jungle world. You could also argue Nine's in charge of that one shatterspace he found and Shadow's the only living resident of desaturated Green Hill. Also, I'm surprised he didn't notice that while they covered up Rouge's breasts, they added way more junk in her trunk
Currently working on a Definitive and Complete Reading Order, (up until issues 50 for now) and let me tell you, Pender is a BIIIIG pain in the ass. But I am pulling it through. The solution is to put all of the Echidna stuff in a single block before the comics start becoming less episodic.
I now realise there was literally no point in putting this Helmet on Sally. Robtnik make zero use of her state and even if he did, there is nothing this helmet do that Roboticization wouldn't have accomplished itself.
>>456213 I was thinking of doing the various Archie continuation comics again when I'm done with Archie. That is if I feel like posting on 4chan after the Archie Ride. I just want to post one issue of Sonic X every thread because aside from the issues where Eggman becomes a wrestler, it's even more boring than the Knuckles comic.
>>456216 >I was thinking of doing the various Archie continuation comics again when I'm done with Archie. I thought that had always been the intend. At least just before you started the Archie ride, especially as, by that point, ASO will likely have bridged their last remaining gap in their series, allowing to finally story-time it in the intended reading order. And Forever will have a more substantial amount of issue to do.
And, who know, maybe even Retold will actually have its Retold-Grams finally done for its issue #5, but let's not get our hop too high, there.
> I just want to post one issue of Sonic X every thread How about you make 10 consecutive threads of 4 issues each so you can be done with it? Sound like a great idea...
>>456219 I like ASO but I keep forgetting when their last issue came out. Archie Sonic Forever hasn't released anything in over a month. Glitcher's face is on the side of a milk carton. And don't forget A Sly Encounter is still chugging along. >How about you make 10 consecutive threads of 4 issues each so you can be done with it? Sound like a great idea... Only if you're willing to help fill those threads with posts everyday because we both know it'll barely get anyone posting in them.
>>456225 Releasing pages weekly is preferable IMO to posting them in batches. That approach would keep the series fresher even though it would lose that comic book feel of getting entire issues at one time. I think Sonic Legacy managed to put out issues fast for a bit but it's been a while for them as well. The only other series that's as consistent as my series is Sonic the Continuation.
And what do you know, it's been just over a year since I started posting Sonic and the Freedom Fighters. The cover was posted on the website on November 13, 2022.
>>456227 I'm curious about that reboot. I know there was a lot of stuff people didn't like about it but I would've preferred they kept going and fix stuff as they went along. That's what Archie did.
FYI, the latest issue of STC-O is in the mega >>456210 Cool! I'm planning on redoing the original scans so people have the option of reading either version >>456208 It looks like she's going super! >>456216 That'd be fun >That is if I feel like posting on 4chan after the Archie Ride. I'll probably do the occasional storytime, but mostly to let anons know about here >Sonic X Yeah, probably best to space it out. There are a few really good issues though >>456220 lmao >>456226 Happy anniversary! Yeah, I like the weekly pages but with a storytime of the complete issue when it's done >>456227 I think they went through some major turnover but they're at least getting back to it
>>456227 >>456228 you also get a different rate of production when you pay an artist to do it rather than them drawing it either for themselves or for the project's sake.
Drawing is not the same time-sink, in term of organising your daily-life, when you get paid for it. At least this is how, as someone who isn't actually an artist, understand things.
IT IS FINALLY DONE! well at least for up until issue #50. I intend to update it every time we will have gone through 50 issues in the mainline series. Nevertheless I present to you Archie Comics Sonic The Hedgehog: the Definitive and Complete Reading Order
Entries without quotes are the names of issues to read as a whole, except when it is followed by (minus "story name"), which indicate a story to skip. Entries with quotes are names of specific stories to read on their own and the respective issues each come from is indicated right next to it. Entries that are non-canon are also specified.
-It was the best of times, it was the silliest of times: Sonic original mini-series #0-#3 (partially non-canon) Sonic #1 Sonic #2 Sonic #3 Sonic #4 Sonic #5 Sonic #6 Sonic #7 Sonic #8 Sonic #9 Sonic #10 Sonic #11 Sonic #12 Sonic #13 Sonic #14 Sonic #15 Sonic #16 Sonic #17 Sonic #18 Sonic: In Your Face! special "Everything Old is Newt Again" from Sonic Archives vol. 5 (non-canon) Sonic #19 Sonic #20 (minus "Deadliest of the Species")
-Getting more serious(-ish?) Sonic #21 Sonic #22 Sonic #23 "Deadliest of the Species" from Sonic #20 Princess Sally mini-series #1-#3 Sonic #24 Sonic #25 Sonic & Knuckles special Sonic #26 Sonic Triple Trouble special Sonic #27 Sonic #28 “Growing Pains: Part 2 of 2” from Sonic #29 Tails mini-series #1-#3
-Echidnas, echidnas everywhere! "Knuckles’ Chaotix Sneak Peak!" from Sonic #30 (single spread teaser) Knuckles’ Chaotix special “Lost… and Found” from Sonic #31 “Prisoners” from Sonic #32 “The Big Picture” from Sonic #33 “Fathers & Sons” from Super Sonic vs. Hyper Knuckles “A Sense of History: Part 1" from Sonic #34 “A Sense of History: Part 2" from Sonic #35 “A Sense of History: Part 3" from Sonic #36 Knuckles mini-series #1-#3 Super Sonic vs. Hyper Knuckles special (minus “Fathers & Sons”) Archie & Friends: A Halloween Tale (non-canon)
-Roboticisation intensifies Sonic #29 (minus “Growing Pains") Sonic #30 (minus "Sneak Peak!") Sonic #31 (minus “Lost… and Found”) “Tundra Road: Part 2” from Sonic #32 “Blast From the Past” from Sonic #32 Sonic #33 (minus “The Big Picture”) Sonic #34 (minus “A Sense of History") Sonic #35 (minus “A Sense of History") Sonic #36 (minus “A Sense of History") Sonic #37 Sonic #38 Sonic Super Special #5: Sonic Kids Sonic #39 Sonic and Knuckles: Mecha Madness special Sonic #40
-Oh yeah, there is a King to rescue, I guess? Sonic #41 Sonic Blast special Sonic Quest mini-series #1-#3 Sonic #42 Sonic Live special Sonic #43 Sonic #44 Sonic #45 Sonic #46 Sonic Super Special #1: Battle Royale
-Gentlemen, we are in the End Game! Sonic #47 Sonic #48 Sonic #49 Sonic Super Special #6: Sonic 50 Director’s Cut
TAADAAH!
I made this trying to follow two directives: -as much as possible, respect the publishing order -as much as possible, make so each issue can be read as whole BUT Priority is given to: -respect the chronology. if one issue state that a story took place before it, then put that story before it -try to make arcs as undisrupted as possible.
THE PRIORITY IS TO MAKE THE READING AS SMOOTH AND COHERENT AS POSSIBLE.
>>456235 In case you want me to elaborate a bit more as to why and how I made this, something that has increasingly bothered during this ride is when an ongoing plot is interrupted by a different story that clearly take place at a different point in time with completely different stake, especially if this is a mini-series done in the middle of an unrelated ongoing arc. It's particularly the case when it's in the form of a bonus story told over several issues.
But, depending of the situation, I have two different approaches. Let's take today's story time to illustrate my point:
For the Knuckles issues, you had the story of Knuckles getting an Date and Mighty trying to find ray. In the Knuckles story, Mighty is present at Echidnapolis. in the mighty Story he is away and it's clear he can't come back in between, it's impossible those two stories happen at the same time. So, to respect the chronology, you have split the successive issues in their distinctive stories, reassemble them into their own arcs and tell each arc as a whole one after the other. Let's call it the Mighty Rule.
>>456236 For the Sonic issues, you also had tow stories: Sonic facing the swatbots and Jules and Bernie telling a story, but this time, it is clear that chronologically, they happen at the same time or at least in alternation to each other, so it is best to keep things the way the issues present them. Issues will be read as a whole one after the other. Let's call it the Jules&Bernie Rule.
One last rule is about the chronology is that in later publication they tell a story that clearly chronologically to take place way earlier in the series, but is meant to be told when it was published, YOU STILL TELL THAT STORY IN THE PUBLICATION ORDER. For example, you don't put the story of Naugus's origin before the first issue of Sonic the Hedgehog. I call it the Naugus Rule. However, I might break that rule from time to time when I consider it more convenient, especially for non-canon stuffs.
Anyway, if you are interested in a more detailed breakdown of my process, here it is, "chapter" by "chapter" (that I made up myself), in the following posts...
>>456237 >It was the best of times, it was the silliest of times would you believe Sonic The Hedgehog wasn't always the epic Space-Fantasy of sword and sorcerer TV-Novella Saga that we all know? I am as surprised as you are.
Not much to say there, pretty much everyone agree on this order. I just placed the "Everything Old is Newt Again" story right after the Sonic: In Your Face! special as it give a direct alternative to the canon origin of Nicole. Conductor just did the same.
Also, I removed the Princess Sally teaser in issue# 20, as it clearly is meant to take place after issues #23
>>456238 >Getting more serious(-ish?) There isn't really a clear issue where you can pinpoint the switch in tone in the Archie Sonic comics, but the introduction of Spaz's art-style with the story of E.V.E. is as good as any. But don't worry, the zaniness isn't completely gone yet, far from it.
Still not much that need justification, aside from "Deadliest of the Species" having to be moved to before issue #24 as there is no possibility for Sally to have come back for issue #21, #22 and #23 while being on her mission in the Princess Sally mini-series. Per Mighty Rule, the teaser and the mini-series take place between issue #23 and #24, issue #24 which explicitly refer tot it and establish Sally just came back from it.
By the same Mighty Rules, the second part of "Growing Pains" must take place immediately after issue #28, whose events are explicitly referenced by the first part of "Growing Pains" and establish it take place right after, with no wiggle room for other events to take place (even if it doesn't make sense that Tails is suddenly upset). And still by the same logic, the Tails mini-series must take place right after "growing pain". Is it too much Tails in a row, well don't worry, because now come...
>>456239 >Echidnas, echidnas everywhere! aka the Knuckleing, aka Why Can't I Hold All those Knuckles, aka Whoops, All Knuckles... I really hope you like Knuckles cause you are getting Knuckles at every meal, there. Keep at least one eye open cause his best friends the Chaotix just might pop in to wish him luck. Oh, and Sonic are sometimes there too...
Boy was this one a dozy. As of now, that was the most time consuming part in the making of this Reading Order. Almost make me think like Penders personally hated my guts. I know, I know, I can already see Conductor reeling seeing this...
But please understand, I am not the one who chose to start a story in a special, decided to continue it through several issues AND an other special, only to conclude it in its own mini-series, all the while only lasting in-story time probably LESS THAN HALF A DAY! It leave ZERO WIGGLE ROOM for anything else to happen in-between. The Migty Rule dictate that they all get together in a single go.
It's not all bad, though, having all those parts weaved in a single arc make for an easier and even enjoyable read. Many of those bits are just two pages comics anyway, which make it shorter than what you might think at first glance. Also, those who pay attention will remember that Tails's mini-series actually prelude to all of this Echidna arc, so it is actually neat to follow straight away with all of the echidna stuff, so the reader doesn't have the time to forget about it.
Anyway, once that bit is out of the way, there is no continuity contradiction to put the rest of the Super Sonic vs. Hyper Knuckles special issue after the Knuckle mini-series. Mighty being there sure wouldn't have allowed to put it in-between. Mighty rules, per usual.
I have also decide to drop the Archie & Friends: A Halloween Tale there, because there isn't really anywhere else it could fit and what do I have to lose at this point anyway. Robotnik is still alive but they also mention the events cause by Ian Droid, making it incompatible with any point in the continuity, but we can just chose to ignore that.
>>456240 >Roboticisation intensifies Back to normal business. For some reason, a lot of those stories have a bigger focus on the plot point of Roboticization. Whether it was intentional or not, I am making it the thematic of this bundle. We start directly with Sally volunteering of Roboticization. I heard it does great for the skin.
We are back to materials that are easier to manage. Just remove the echidna stuff. The one thing to be wary of is that the Bonus story of issue #32, where Rotor try to rescue his people, has to be done first to follow on the first part in issue #31, other wise, you can't explain why Rotor is present. Mighty Rule.
This is also the first time I break the Naugus Rule for a canon story and putting the Sonic Super Special #5: Sonic Kids right after issue #38. In its publishing order, it's put interrupting ongoing stories and the final story chronologically follow issue #38. Plus issue #38 get to show us Sonic as a little baby, so that sealed the deal for me. Stories of the FF fighting Robotnik fit better before issue #50 anyway and I don't think seeing Merlin earlier cause any trouble to the general story.
I could shuffle things around and put “Total Re-Genesis” right after "The Rise of Robotropolis...The Fall of Sonic!" and lump "Bedtime Tails" with all of the Kids stories, but it read well enough as it is. Let's keep the issues whole when possible and consider the other stories as flashbacks and/or intermissions.
>>456241 >Oh yeah, there is a King to rescue, I guess? What is more important than saving the king? Everything. But let's do that anyway.
I could have lumped it all with End Game, but most of those issue are so focused on retrieving and healing Max (only to conclude with a sort of nothing-burger) that I consider it make a chapter of its own.
One thing that bothered me was how issue #41 having Geoffrey present at the end, only for him to have been gone for a while and just come back at the start of Sonic Quest. Surely, something must have happened in-between and this is where Sonic Blast special fit nicely, especially as it starts with Sonic telling Sally he is surprised she knew Knuckles beforehand, so not long after it became public knowledge.
Per Jules&Bernie Rule (it can't always been Mighty), I don't need to Frankenstein the different part s of Knuckle Quest. It even explicitly states that events of other issues take place between each part. Let's keep things chronological.
There is no continuity contradiction in putting Sonic Live after issue #42 and this way issue #42 can be kept whole. Tails simply came back for the start of Sonic live, after he showed Knuckles the big hole in the ground.
Anyway, for who did I do that? For new readers? I doubt it's a very good recommendation for new readers to jump from one issue to the other. Maybe for TP to reorganise his file for the next time there is an archie Sonic Story time. Though, per experience, we have learned the audience is not too keen on the Knuckling (what you thought there would be only one?) It might be too much even for the Conductor.
So, for a future publisher who somehow secure the right again so that they have a correct order of publication? Let's go with that, sure...
Anyway, I needed to do this and now it's done. until we hit issue 100 but I think it won't be as hard this time (I hope).
>>456243 >Many thanks for the one and half person who somehow was interested in reading ll of that. Jesus Christ. I am convinced there is some Evil Font Conspiracy that prevent you to see the spelling and phrasing mistakes when you write in a text box, but use a slightly different font that make them all pop in you face when you read them once published.
There are so many mistakes and terrible way I expressed myself that I am only seeing now, sorry for subjecting you to all that. I hope it was still worth it.
>>456235 Wow, thanks for going to all this effort! >>456236 Yeah, the chronology's a bit of a mess with Archie. I ended up using the reading order from here: https://thankskenpenders.tumblr.com/readingorder, and while it's much better than going publication order, there's still problems. >>456244 I'll definitely be reorganizing all the comics, and cleaning up all the original scans so readers have a choice between the originals and the digital recolors >>456252 Adorable! >>456256 Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'll have to do that soon ;_;
Today is the day we do the naked Sally story. I'll do the censored version because I can't risk getting a dozen pages deleted and given a vacation. I'll post the originals here and anyone else can post those in the thread after the thread is done.
>>456246 >>456258 >Wow, thanks for going to all this effort! Glad it could be worth of notice for at least a few people, then.
>Yeah, the chronology's a bit of a mess with Archie. It's mostly due to several stories being written and published at the same time, which is still standard practise for comics nowadays, but believe it or not, so far, I have been able to organise each of those stories without a single timeline incompatibility, at least for the canon stuff. That's one thing I am quite satisfied about.
>I'll definitely be reorganizing all the comics If you try to follow the Reading Order I made, that might turn into quite a grind, but that's why I tried to maintain issues whole as much as possible to at least limit the pain. Either ways, good speed.
>>456259 Well, I intended to post some of the latest Sally drawing from Omegasunburst in the thread once the sotry-time was done anyway, so I can also do that.
Sonic grams poster here, I got banned for a dumb reason and won't be at least wedensday. I will be posting the Sonic grams here, and if you would be so kind conductor, is to repost them on the main threads. I'll post the ones needed for each day here.
>well, ordering issues till End Game sure was an ordeal, but as things get more streamlined, it should be easier from now on... IT SURE IS GOING TO BE FUN TRYING TO LODGE KNUCKLES #29 IN THERE!
Really considering this issue non-canon either ways.
>>456283 >Really considering this issue non-canon either ways. That's what I'm seeing it as. Not like anything happened. >>456284 Now that's something I'd like to see. Bollers has been explaining Penders' past shit and then Penders goes right at it like Bollers didn't do anything and continues things the way they were before.
>>456260 >Glad it could be worth of notice for at least a few people, then. It certainly helps me since I can just focus on the images >It's mostly due to several stories being written and published at the same time, which is still standard practise for comics nowadays, but believe it or not, so far, I have been able to organise each of those stories without a single timeline incompatibility, at least for the canon stuff. That's one thing I am quite satisfied about. Yeah, it's a bit of a free for all when it comes to comics, not to mention that they'll publish stories that were clearly written years before but pretend they fit into the current canon >If you try to follow the Reading Order I made, that might turn into quite a grind, but that's why I tried to maintain issues whole as much as possible to at least limit the pain. Either ways, good speed. I'm thinking of doing some fancy stuff with the metadata so people can read by publication order, chronological order by issue, or chronological order by story. So much to do! >>456263 Huh. At the risk of jinxing things, no deletions this thread. I even posted a link to here and an image mocking the janny. Maybe he's playing hard to get >>456264 Sorry to hear that. Happens to me more often than I'd like >>456284 I'd love to see that! >>456285 >Not like anything happened. Yeah, other than seeing Saturday Morning Spectre, the entire issue can be safely forgotten >>456287 Ah, so he was too busy in /sthg/ to shit up our threads. Do we just post Mina over there before our threads start then? >>456288 Didn't sell well, which is no surprise since it was more expensive than Mania but without Mania's team backing it
I was honestly not expecting the Knuckles issue being so bad. Of course being a Sallyfag has me disliking it even more but the obvious seething and disregard from Penders is something else. Soon we'll end the Knuckles series on a whimper but at least a memorable meme. But of course it's not the end of Penders writing Knuckles. >>456286 Not sure. >>456290 >Yeah, other than seeing Saturday Morning Spectre, the entire issue can be safely forgotten Also, we can just imagine how Bollers would've written it. Same thing happened but no character regression or assassinations.
>>456291 Sally justisfying GENOCIDE is so fucking shit it's unreal. And I hate how mixed I am on Knuckles and Sally. I do want to see friends have some arguements as some do but then penders does it like that where she's a total bitch. But then I think on how sometimes people are like that when furious and ARRRGGHH. I want sally to have flaws so she's not a mary sue but not too much of a fucking bitch either. It's so fucking frustrating and once again. actually fuck penders for siding with her schizo dad.
>>456292 Just think of it as something that could've been done much better by any other writer. Penders used that Knuckles issue to make a statement and it was horrible. And yet we did the Girls Rule special, which was all written by Penders, and it was actually decent despite all the bad shit that happened. I've realized that the more effort Penders puts into something, the more he's likely to ruin it. But he has to not be completely dismissive either. There's a sweet spot.
>>456295 I honestly nope out the instant someone goes "BUT AMERICANS AND JAPAN..." when it comes to sonic these days. There is no point in wasting time with schizophrenia
>>456291 It was so bad! People complain about the microwaving and the secret grandpas but this was just spiteful. I really would've preferred Bollers writing it. >>456292 I just wanted to see them bond over their shitty dads and realize just how dysfunctional things are >>456295 Kinda odd since nothing was deleted >>456296 Probably for the best
>>456290 >Huh. At the risk of jinxing things, no deletions this thread >>456298 >Kinda odd since nothing was deleted Yeah, Didn't get into any trouble, not even for posting omegasunburst art. Not even YOUR janny edit. Could it be he finally discretely kicked out.
We'll have to post some bara Rotor next thread to make sure.
>>456300 Yeah, when I saw the omegasunburst art I figured I'd post the janny edit. FWIW, I think he's still around, but was probably having a melty in /sthg/. I think he latches on to a single thread at a time so if he's not with us, he's hassling Death Battle or /sthg/ anons >We'll have to post some bara Rotor next thread to make sure. Just be careful, since that's another janny/mod who has some fixation/grudge with Rotor-bro. I've actually had posts deleted because they thought I was him since I was talking lustfully about Mobian dudes. On the bright side, I'm certain I taught the moderation team the difference between bara and twinks! >>456301 Espio wishes he had that amount of stealth
>>456306 >Hold on, let me check to see if there's a Sonadow tag for this. Sonic Boom Overwhelmed? More like Boom Sonic's Overwhelmed by gay thoughts amirite?
>>>/4chan/co/140673505 >>>/4chan/co/140673505 Sonic thread off to an interesting start. Second post reminding of someone posting towards the end of our last thread. Interesting to see how the Archie Ride has been influencing some anons. Definitely doesn't make IDW look good in comparison.
>>456309 Yeah. Shadow wants to kill Eggman when he's Tinker but Sonic fights Shadow and talks him down. Everyone even makes fun of Shadow for assuming the worst when Tinker reveals Eggmanland and it turns out to be some kids rides. I think everyone leaves Tinker in the village without anyone keeping an eye on him and then he gets kidnapped by Rough and Tumble. And the rest is history.
>>456312 >>456315 Pretty certain a /v/ thread calling the characters Mobians is what set him off and sent him back to his usual tactics. He was even calling people "Richmunk" all over again!
I think fucking over our threads and no longer having a constant target has inadvertently resulted in him reverting to his usual behaviors. In a certain sense, we've made him even more miserable than he was when we were still posting every day.
Supercharge! Our heroes are pouring it on but Brutus is not having any of this! Let me point out Sally’s observation and adaptation skills. It’s how she beat Brutus before.
And I have good news! The series will be updating twice a week again! Next update will be Thursday (actually Wednesday). And the notes will resume in December.
Between our threads, the Amazing Spider-Man storytime threads, the soon to be ending Wizard Top 100 Issues threads, and the JSA threads, it's good to see so many consistent storytime threads. Almost makes the board tolerable. >>456329 Oh nice it's updating again. Sometimes an artist will stop doing Sonic stuff and work on something else but thankfully that's not the case for this series.
4 Sonic issues tomorrow and the special along with 3 more issues the day after. I expect those threads to be packed. Thirstposter, you'll have to post Amy's boner yourself.
>read idw thread >compaining about "ermmm why did they give sally blades to fight in reboot?!!" >as if sally not being as powerful was a thing people complained about I was honestly kinda a bit apprehensive on your choice for sally but I've grown to like it and more creative stragedy using her powers would be cool to see. If anything i did kinda agree with is someone saying it kinda steps on antoines thing with his sword but I think you adressed that somewhere already in your comic. But i dont fully remember so you need to inform me the differences.
>>456309 It reads like a parody! >>456319 >Seems they needed to vent for a while. Turns out more info just recently dropped about Kuta still being into ABDL despite saying he'd sworn off it. Could have something to do with it. What's really weird is or special friend's writing style's very similar to Kuta's. >>456330 Yeah, I don't have high hopes long-term, but it's nice to see we aren't the only ones actually trying to have fun and discuss comics & cartoons >>456331 >implying I wasn't going to anyway
>>456332 Sally is closer to what Shadow does. She uses chaos energy as a weapon but while Shadow's attacks are sparky energy blasts with vague shapes to them, Sally's able to refine them and mold them into weapons and objects. She can use them offensively and defensively but there's a lot more she could do with it if she had more training by someone that knows better. Antoine has a magical sword that can cut anything and he's a much better swordsman than Sally. In fact, he's the one that taught her how to use a sword. Also, the arm blades and sword and shield are all things she and her father were able to do in the reboot, although it was with ring tech or whatever.
As for Sally being given weapons, it's so she can be more active on the battlefield and not need to be saved or sidelined. Same reason that Tails was given a gloves that carry a computer and can make energy tools that he can also use as weapons (inspired by Sonic Boom Tails getting a wrench to use in fights). And it's now shown that Sonic can absorb energy for a power boost. Getting a chaos energy supercharge is something anyone can do as it's like getting powered up by a chaos energy but getting fed Amy's energy is something only he can do. This opens things up for more ways to make him stronger.
https://www.deviantart.com/calebartboy15 Neutral the Hedgehog is updating again. I'm just going to consider it a Sonic adjacent comic even though Tails is briefly in it.
>>456332 What I dislike the most about Sally's wrist blades is how limited they are in terms of applications. They're cutting weapons, so they can't be used to fight another Mobians or humans or even Robians and cyborgs without it looking awkward, because she can't actually slice people in half unless it's a guro comic. She can't use them to help with movement in any creative ways, the only thing I can think off is using them to copy Knuckles' climbing. Compare that with Amy's toy hammer that despite being much simpler in concept has godlike synergy with the setting, from being able to smash springs to jump higher or launch other characters around while they're curled up in a ball, or being able to both fight giant robots and smack her friends as a joke with it.
I feel that ideally Sally would have something that allows her to outsmart her opponents and provide support for her team, with a bigger focus on versatility over power, to complement her traits of being both a leader and tactician. Like when she used Nicole to generate holograms and distract Mecha Sonic during Mecha Madness. Also like how she uses a slingshot to blind robots by hitting them in the face with paintballs in one of the early issues, it's something very simple but that gets the idea.
>>456339 I'd also like to add how her wrist blades are close range weapons, so they don't even enable her to provide support to her friends from the backline or stay out of danger when dealing with tough foes. Sally clashing with Metal Sonic in equal grounds by using her blades in the reboot was absolutely bueno worthy and betrayed both of their characters completely, making Metal look like a bitch and Sally like an unga bunga fighter on the level of Knuckles.
>>456339 Yeah, I get that they were a callback to her arm blades from when she was roboticized but they really work against her characterization. As a field commander, Sally's supposed to hang back in a fight and direct her team, only stepping in as a last resort. A mid-range weapon like her slingshot or some sort of stun blaster function on Nicole would suit her way better. The hologram thing fits really well and should've been used more since I love seeing Sally and Nicole working together in the field as (non-romantic) partners. >>456340 100% agree on the wrist blades being too visceral for her. Her main skill's diplomacy, not disembowelment! They should've at least had a non-lethal mode like batons or something. I think the Konductor sidesteps the issue well by having her energy constructs function as tools (like when she used them to hold onto the side of the building instead of Penders-falling) as well as multiple types of weapons. It also helps that she doesn't have Nicole and has been characterized from the start as someone who takes a more active role in the battles >>456341 It wouldn't be an imageboard without wordfilters!
And done. Also things got a little crazy in the thread. And that anon complaining about Archie not having the foresight to use Amy more before SoJ busted down their doors and forced a bunch of changes on them without telling them much else is very interesting.
>/v/ and /co/ threads being used to instigate fighting between idw, archie, satam, aosth fans Sigh... I'm honestly tired of it all. Thi type of shit been happening for years at this point
>>456356 And here I thought IDW was going to sell more Sonic comics to make more money. But between this and the fact they're still losing money every quarter, I can't believe that they have much time to finish the Fang mini and then resume. >>456367 That's why our threads are the best.
>>456356 F >>456363 Much better than I was expecting thb. I guess having the other /v/ and 4/co/ threads to shit up keeps ours comfy >>456367 Yeah, I can't wait until we get our own board here. I'm getting kinda sick of the constant vitriol coming from the schizos >>456368 >That's why our threads are the best. Our threads are the best because we're handsomer than the other anons!
>>456370 They almost certainly aren't sharing their own opinions since the point is to shit up any discussion about Sonic. Even IDWkun will praise Sally and Archie if it means stirring up shit with IDW or game fans. The goal was never to have a favored Sonic canon on 4chan, but to ensure no one gets to enjoy talking about Sonic.
It's why they hate our threads so much. If you look at the Ride threads from a decade ago they're just as comfy as our current ones, but if you compare he earliest /sthg/ threads to the current ones you'll see exactly the sort of misanthropic irony-poisoned culture they're pushing.
I genuinely believe there's been a long-term push by the jannies and mods at 4chan to drive off anyone who's not a jaded loser simply because misery loves company
>>456372 Yeah, that's what I meant. You can see from its early threads that they were more or less like ours, but have since degenerated into irony-poisoned schizoposting. The fact that Ride threads haven't degenerated is a problem for the mods/jannies that would prefer everything to be shit over there. It's why they target our threads constantly
>>456350 Only a few pages, but looks good so far! >>456376 Sonic is the worst communicator on the planet >>456380 Tails isn't wrong. Still sad though >>456382 Claiming the twink eating popcorn, assuming Sonic doesn't get to him first >>456383 Nice!
>>456355 >Question: If you were a normal human living your normal life and you suddenly saw a bunch of animals walking on two legs, wearing some clothes, and speaking your language, what would be the first thing you’d do? Shut down the internet! And hope they haven't seen anything yet.
>>456384 >Claiming the twink eating popcorn, assuming Sonic doesn't get to him first A passive aggressive douchebag Sonic in college would probably go around fucking everyone. Using his celebrity status to get anyone in bed, even straight guys. But fortunately/unfortunately he only wants Shadow.
>>456389 >Tails looks on in disgust as he watches his brother be a passive aggressive bisexual slut >Tails: I guess we can add "whore" to your deeds now.
For anyone morbidly curious at what Pixy is doing now that he no longer has our threads to troll, he's busy spamming the Death Battle threads as "LopiBats" or whatever the fuck.
It's sort of morbidly fascinating to watch his autism face off against their own brand of cancer. Like two trains crashing into each other.
https://>>>/4chan/co/140702687 So, was Knuckles just taking a nap while ll of this was happening?
https://>>>/4chan/co/140702808 >Jules is fully aware of what he is doing to her wife the whole time The more you think about this moment, the more horrendous you realise it is.
https://>>>/4chan/co/140702904 >Bunnie with her former limbs That's great, actually, as this bit still take time directly after "Tales of the Great war" part 6 https://>>>/4chan/co/140661255 with zero interruption. Writers actually cared about continuity, there. And the teaser for Sonic adventure can easily be ignored.
>>456371 >I genuinely believe there's been a long-term push by the jannies and mods at 4chan to drive off anyone who's not a jaded loser simply because misery loves company They are. You can literally get banned on /v/ for calling out this kind of behavior.
>>456378 >>456380 It's still kind of a stretch that Tails equate Sonic being (reasonably) defiant of Eggman with thinking Sonic don't want to let him grow up.
I mean, Sonic outright say "You're a Genius on your own you're a hero enough to everyone", there >>456377 even if the comic make it look like Tails barely listen to that, it still goes against his conclusion.
>>456398 And the fucking amazing part is how some anons are OKAY with that and will further the garbage pile that is /v/ because of some made up reasons. Like I've seen posts that outright said /v/ is better because of how bad it is
So issue 83 and 84 are the finale of the Sonic Adventure adaptation, but the interesting thing is who's writing what. Bollers has issue 83 and Penders has 84. But the consistent writers for bother issues is Gabrie for the storyline and Gallagher. >>456392 Awesome! >>456394 >LopiBats I've seen that name in other threads and even our own I think. >>456400 Just do what I do. Ignore the worst parts or pretend there's a version that Bollers wrote. >>456403 I would say it's years of resentment building up in Tails reaching a boiling point. There's already rift between Sonic and Tails from earlier and Eggman of all people is giving him the recognition and validation he's been wanting. And when Tails started talking about his interests to Sonic, Sonic fell asleep. Then they get into an argument about Eggman. After they stop, Tails is still emotional and it looked like the disagreement was over but Sonic started up again. And then there's the mention of Amy leaving because of Sonic. It's just a culmination of a lot of stuff and Tails let it all out at once.
I recognise that the Adventure adaptation has a bit of "lodged in at the last minute" vibe, but otherwise, it has been a nice read so far. I don't get why so many people speak of it as some sort of infamous thing or an experience to never repeat again...
>>456409 It's overall not bad, just awkward. The inconsistencies are understandable given the situation that SoJ put Archie in. So it depends on how much a person values game canon. However, as >>456408 alludes to, Penders' handling of the ending and the Knuckles clan will probably be the worst. It's classic Penders at its finest.
>>456356 Damn. Not that I care about their comic at this point, but Im worried this might kill that rediscovered frontiers fanfic. The author of that story actually likes this comic.
Knowing that IDW Sonic's death is very much a growing possibility makes me sad. Yeah the comic is a little bit of wasted potential, but knowing that it's gonna die with a whimper like Archie did is just... man...
>>456421 >Tails having a dream of a flower becoming a baby. Either Tails isn't completely over something yet, or he recently watched Guardians of the Galaxy.
>>455816 The Heart of a Monster 8-13 https://thoam.the-comic.org/comics/325 Tails should've known his himbo bro would've pushed it tbh >>456422 The plot thickens! I honestly love the idea that they're mutual fans >>456423 I wonder if Cosmo's canon to this story
First one to not reach bump limit in a while. There was one bump when it reached page 10 before, but it seems whoever was forcing threads to stay alive before couldn't before this time.
>>456428 It's fine for threads to stay alive longer if it's close to bump limit. Threads that are at 200-300 replies either need to be filled up or let die. The last one could've survived longer since it had about 10 bumps left. But since nobody replied to it in hours I'd assume everyone had a chance to read and reply to the comics and that was it. Still surprising considering that it was the Sonic Adventure finale.
Sonic #51 Sonic #52 Knuckles #1 Knuckles #2 Knuckles #3 Knuckles #4 Knuckles #5 Knuckles #6 Sonic Super Special #2: Brave New World
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Knuckles #1 Knuckles #2 Knuckles #3 Sonic #51 Sonic #52 Knuckles #4 Knuckles #5 Knuckles #6 Sonic Super Special #2: Brave New World
Personally, I prefer to have all the Knuckles after Sonic#52, because then, you have all the new Zones of reality explained before the introduction of the Dark Legion, who are back because of the emergence of the Zones. But Maybe it's too much Knuckles at once and you only get the explanation of the Zone in Knuckles #4 anyway.
But I prefer my arcs non-interrupted and Knuckles #1 to #3 connect quite directly with Knuckles #4 to #5.
I wonder if three Sonic issues will be enough or if I should throw in the next issue which is a special. No, it's not Naugus Games but that one is coming up in 2 threads after this next one.
>>456425 I really should just use gallery-dl for these >>456426 Good spotting, I completely missed that! >>456427 And yet he still keeps drinking mysterious liquids in Tails' fridge! >>456428 Yeah I missed the end of that one. I'll have to write up my schizo theory on the South, Westside and Angel Islands originally being the one landmass >>456430 Either's good since they're taking place at the same time, but the first is probably easier reading >>456436 What flirts! >>456439 Damn >>456446 The language is a little awkward in this comic, but I think they mean she's not crossed over to the other side yet >>456447 I think three's fine >No, it's not Naugus Games lmao, you've got 4 versions of that one to do!
>mention on twitter that being a patron would be cool and even $1 would help >no new patrons ;_; Anyway, here's a WIP! Tails and Zooey, walking past a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G! >>456455 TBH I didn't really read the infamous dark age of Archie. I've seen enough crap from Penders already so I'm ready for his last salvo before Ian comes in.
>>456450 Preserving the correct version of this page here for posterity >>456456 Looks great! >;_; The numbers have been increasing steadily at least >TBH I didn't really read the infamous dark age of Archie. Blasphemy! >>456458 Exactly! Tails should be with Shadow or Charmy
>>456456 >pic There goes my enthusiasm. Zooey is like Cream but with no powers, even less personality and no relations whatsoever to the rest of the cast.
>>456460 I think that's the point though. She's a blank slate to construct an actual personality with and a civilian so doesn't need to tag along on the adventures. Not the Konductor, but some actual spoilers: She's Tails' first girlfriend, but not necessarily his final partner. I personally like it because it gives the chance to rework the Tails' first love storyline without robot duplicates, slaps or Sonic being a dick
>>456461 The Auto-Fiona story isn't a bad one, and would probably be remembered well if the development that Tails went through in it wasn't completely retconned and forgotten for the sake of creating drama with the real one.
But it bothers me a bit to see such a dogwater character like Zooey being tied to Tails when even Sega lately has been attempting to make their girls more interesting, through a massive effort with Amy that went as far as to retcon her into being a main character during the Classic era, by putting Rouge that was already the most interesting female from the games in a more prominent spot, and now even Cream with the whole dream phone game thing being centered around her.
I am pretty sure that it doesn't, but is there any continuity contradiction to put Sonic Super Special #8 right after Sonic Super Special #4: Return of the King?
I don't think introducing Zonic earlier cause any contradiction, but I'd prefer a peer-review just to be sure.
>>456462 >that went as far as to retcon her into being a main character during the Classic era During the Classic era, Amy was basically in all of the party-games and racing-games, as well as some promo arts. It's not really a retcon.
>>456465 It absolutely is, it completely contradicts her character during the early 3D era. It's not a bad retcon though.
Sega is essentially doing after 30 years what SatAM did from the start. Which is funny because from the western side in the last decade at least female characters have been nothing but trainwrecks.
>>456466 >It absolutely is, it completely contradicts her character during the early 3D era. Being a more prominent character? How does that contradict her characterisation, when again, she was part of all the party-games and racing games as well as present on several promo art of the time?
>>456467 She's a weak, clunky character who has to catch up with the boys, both from a gameplay and narrative perspective. This makes no sense considering it happens after the events of games like Superstars where she already acts like a proper heroine and contributes to the main plot just as much as the guys.
>>456468 >She's a weak, clunky character who has to catch up with the boys She was in Sonic the Fighters. And while it's likely that the "canon" ending is with Sonic winning the tournament, I am pretty sure they wouldn't have let her participate if she couldn't carry her own weight.
>>456469 You're grasping at straws by citing the pseudo-plot of spin-off shovelware while I'm talking about the major narratives of some of the main titles of the entire series.
>>456470 >You're grasping at straws by citing the pseudo-plot of spin-off shovelware I mean, I did mention several time that my point was based on the party and racing games, so yeah. And even if they are not part of the mainline series, it's still not a retcon.
And even if we focus only on the mainline games, by SA1, she can actually fight on her own anyway. So it makes sense she became a competent fighter at some point during the classic era before SA1 happen.
>>456470 >You're grasping at straws by citing the pseudo-plot of spin-off shovelware To be fair, the point was about her portrayal during >>456467 >the early 3D era. And pseudo-plot of spin-off shovelware is basically what early 3D era of sonic is before the first Adventure game.
>140681115 Okay, I think I have managed to square that circle, concerning Sonic Super Special #12 and more specifically the "Turnabout heroes" story. It actually works when you set it After Sonic #72 and after Knuckles #28, but before Sonic #73 and before Knuckles #29
There is no contradiction in setting Sonic Super Special #10: Crossover Chaos AFTER Sonic Super Special #12 and the Julie-Su story in the Girls Rules! special can easily take place after those two.
I'm going to start posting 4 issues in every thread. Better to hit bump limit faster than worrying if it'll happen if I finish and we're under 300 posts. Also, now that Sonic and the Freedom Fighters updates twice a week, the next page will be after today's thread.
>>456476 I'll post the complete list after we reach Sonic #100, but nevertheless, BEHOLD:
Sonic #68 “Princess Sally: Ascension” from Sonic Super Special 11: Girls Rule! Sonic #69 Sonic #70 Sonic #71 (minus “In the Beginning…”) Sonic #72 (minus “Tales of the Great War") Knuckles #22 Knuckles #23 Knuckles #24 Knuckles #25 Knuckles #26 (minus “Friend in Need”) Knuckles #27 (minus “Those Were the Days…”) Knuckles #28 (minus “Below the Belt”) Sonic Super Special #12 “Friend in Need” from Knuckles #26 “Those Were the Days…” from Knuckles #27 “Below the Belt” from Knuckles #28 Sonic Super Special #9: Sonic Kids 2 “In the Beginning…” from Sonic #71 “Tales of the Great War: Part 1" from Sonic #72 “Tales of the Great War: Part 2" from Sonic #73 Archie's Weird Mysteries (sep 99) Sabrina the Teenage Witch #28 Sonic Super Special #10: Crossover Chaos Sonic #73 (minus “Tales of the Great War") Sonic #74 Sonic #75 Sonic #76 Sonic #77 “Tales of the Great War: Part 6" from Sonic #78 “Tales of the Great War: The Conclusion"from Sonic #79 Sonic Super Special #11: Girls Rule (minus “Princess Sally: Ascension”) Knuckles #29 (non-canon, fuck you!) Knuckles #30 (minus “Hiding in Plain Sight”) Knuckles #31 (minus “The Best of Friends”) Knuckles #32 (minus “The Worst of Enemies”) “Hiding in Plain Sight” from Knuckles #30 “The Best of Friends” from Knuckles #31 “The Worst of Enemies” from Knuckles #32 Sonic #78 (minus “Tales of the Great War: Part 6")
It ain't pretty, but it works. As far as I know, there is zero continuity contradiction with that order. Yes, even "Turnabout heroes" fit. Feel free to double check.
>>456477 Awesome, we’re finally at two pages a week! Feel free to do 3 or 4 issues, since I can always fill up the thread with fancomics >>456480 Looks good to me, but I’ll have to check the issues >>456485 One (1) raccoon twink please!
>>456490 By the way, looking at http://archiesoniconline.com/?page_id=2463 (it help me, but it is not always reliable) and two lines bother me: >Free Comic Book Day 2011 (Sonic’s Flashback) (A remake of Sonic Super Special 15: Naugus Games: “Naugus Games”) >*Sonic Super Special 15: Naugus Games: “Naugus Games”(Remade in Free Comic Book Day 2011) (No Longer Canon) Is it correct? Is Free Comic Book Day 2011 meant to completely (or partially) replace Sonic Super Special 15, like this was the case for Sonic Super Special 6 and Sonic #50, or does Free Comic Book Day 2011 simply include a retcon that still requires to have read Sonic Super Special 15 before hand to make more sense of it?
>>456492 I'll just do both. The original is such a shitshow, I'll still do it for completionist's sake but seeing it the way it should've been will be a good way to compensate for it.
>>456494 Issue 50 Director's Cut added pages but the FCBD pages for Naugus Games seems to have been a apology for a decade old comic. I'm a little surprised Archie didn't get sued for the special.
One last gamble for our heroes and it had to be something big and crazy. What? You’ve never seen a combined spin dash where Sonic is fed two different kinds of magical power and turned into a giant spinning ball of energy? Good.
>>456507 It's just the redone pages. While I understand the need to save things for when they were done, it would be better to see the special as it originally was and then its fixed version. It's just 12 pages that is just that story and nothing else. Otherwise I post the redone pages much later and then everyone sees what the story was supposed to be like.
>ASF and ASO Feel great bros. I do think atm I like ASF more but its all cool. If anything I do hope they get more attention and support than people wasting their time trying to get them back in official stuff.
I made the mistake of going over to the regular boards and people are having their little culture war about the new Disney movie.
I swear, maybe it's my Sonic brainrot speaking, but who fucking cares what critics AND audiences think about a given piece of media in terms of your personal enjoyment/dislike of it? People online seem to have such a big fucking complex about the stuff they like/dislike, both when it's the general consensus (then it's proof their opinions are The Correct Ones and peasants should STFU) and when it's the unpopular take (then it's proof woke/cape/whatevershit has brainwashed the masses and the critics).
It wouldn't be so bad if they weren't also trying to shove this shit down other people's throats. Veering fully into Sonic now, I saw this a looooooot back when the "SONIC WAS NEVER GOOD" mindset was at it's heyday. You couldn't express enjoyment of any installment without someone seething about your Plebian Taste. Hell, in-depth criticism got droned out in favor of buzzwords getting lobbed.
>>456517 >but who fucking cares what critics AND audiences think about a given piece of media in terms of your personal enjoyment/dislike of it? The one point I can explain is that if the stuff you like is commercially successful, then you are more likely to get more of it, so I can understand the desire for from a fan for it to be so.
when it goes of the rail is when people who don't like something and want it to fail so they cease making more of it, as if it was some sort of zero-sum game where if they don't do what you don't like, they will do what you like more. It absolutely doesn't work like this.
>>456500 lmao, you can see her vulva >>456512 >I'll leave it to Thirstposter to decide. Whatever he says I'll do. I'd do the original and then the Nebs version, since it edits the dialog to be closer to the original. I'd save the new one for when it fits into the plot (since it's actually a flashback) >>456517 Yeah, that's why I stick to our threads, Tamers threads, and degenerate threads on /trash/. I'm convinced long-term exposure to social media has driven some people crazy >SONIC WAS NEVER GOOD That was instigated by IGN, which only cemented how utterly dogshit they are
>>456520 >since it edits the dialog to be closer to the original. Is there some sort of fabled "original" that failed to be released the first time or something?
>>456524 Well shit. You know there was a point when I actually thought Silver was about to put Shadow back in his pod and i was just a matter of a couple of pages... And then he didn't. And then they kept fighting. And now this...
Silver should have stayed in his time period, that day.
>>456522 No, it's just the Nebs version >>456523 It's done be someone whose been archiving Archie comics on archive.org. He's tried to make the dialog of the original Naugus Games (with the shit art) fit the FCBD art (with more modern dialog). It's in the mega if you'd like to read it
>>456526 >He's tried to make the dialog of the original Naugus Games (with the shit art) fit the FCBD art (with more modern dialog) So, does that make the FCBD worse?
>>456525 Yeah, I figured the other Shadow would save him and help put that Shadow back in his pod >Silver should have stayed in his time period, that day. He really should've >>456527 Another reason I don't bother posting the updates on 4/co/
>>456528 The changes end up being pretty minor, but it also removes the parts that make it a flashback, so it can slot in with the original without readers wondering why Naugus is king, and why Sonic isn't stomping his face into the ground
>>455476 >>456533 So basically, everyone is an asshole cheating on everyone in this, except Sally (so far), but she is the one the reader is supposed to antagonise because she is a nag and want some kid.
Seeing it's actually the adaptationist of a fanfic, it's actually on par or the course...
(also, Sonic already cheated Sally with Amy when he was 18, in this, as a birthday present for Sonic)
>>456520 >I'd do the original and then the Nebs version, since it edits the dialog to be closer to the original. I'd save the new one for when it fits into the plot (since it's actually a flashback) Okay. I'll be doing it at the end of the thread anyway. I'll throw up some disclaimer so if anyone doesn't want to read it then they don't need to. We'll still do the FCBD version and it won't even be that soon since it'll be after a decade of comics.
>>456534 >she is the one the reader is supposed to antagonise because she is a nag and want some kid. It's funny we're still getting unironic Sally HISSSSS in current year.
>>456480 Okay, turns out that I might not be done with this part yet, seeing how each issues of Sonic starting with #78 have an basically uninterrupted story progression that continue throughout #91 and likely beyond, so it's not possible to lodge any side-stories featuring Sonic or any of the cast involved in-between.
Means I'll have to stuff some more stories between #77 and #78 Maybe I'll use the space between #71 and #72 too. And I have the feeling even more is still to come.
That'll teach me to post this sort of list early
Anyway, expect me to post the whole redo after we reach Sonic #100. Maybe #125, just to be sure...
>>456553 Previously, he saw that he was no longer cicatrizing, so it look like it's turned off. So, unfortunately, it seems like his natural defences have been "turned off".
>>456517 It's the problem that occurs when narcissists are given unmitigated access to social media platforms to soapbox their nonsense on. They rally and spread their psychosis literally everywhere.
>>456520 >spoiler I can't believe Thirsposter is posting in the /furred/ threads.
>>456552 >not awful right now, but I fear it's going to be awfuller. A brief lull in the awfulness >>456564 I'm sure IDWnic would forgive him! >>456565 >I can't believe Thirsposter is posting in the /furred/ threads. lmao >>456570 Sorry I missed the tread, had some family stuff to do >>456571 Hope you enjoyed your architecting Konductor, and everyone else too! >>456577 >Also, Shadow and sonic confirmed to be PJ-buddies I knew it! Absolutely adorable
>>456578 >Sorry I missed the tread, had some family stuff to do It was definitely a thread. Unfortunately, I lost interest in it soon after I finished.
>>456585 Like, seriously, I don't wan to be mean, but did one of the artist get sick and they let one of the kids who send fanarts take over for that issue?
https://>>>/4chan/co/140783293 Funny, I always thought Hope had been introduced aftee shadow, but I guess it makes sense that she was a remaining artefact of the Penders era of the comic.
https://>>>/4chan/co/140784800 Always a pleasure to see my favorite rabbit girl in her old design. Especially as, with the black and white making Sonic's eyes non-green, I have more room to place this story in the reading order.
Seeing as it look like the badniks and other robots all seems to be derelict, I am considering this take place before the return of Eggman, shortly after the fall of Robotnik, as it looks like just the start of the clean-up of the freshly liberated Mobotropolis.
So I'd put “Sonic Spin City” right from Sonic Super Special #15 right after Sonic #52, especially as it follow a similar thematic. Any better suggestion?
Also, I skipped the edited redo and wait for it to come in its FCBD 2011 form, but I am not including it in my list at all, for the same reason I didn't include Sonic #50. I think we can all be fine with that. Any objection?
>>456580 Imagine not wanting to debate religion in a thread about Sonic the Hedgehog! I'm zurprised more didn't want to talk about Penders using random photos he found on the Internet as backgrounds. It's so lazy it's almost avant-garde! >>456590 Whoops, I really should look at the logs after I process the threads! Looks like there's a limit of 100,000 files on the host. I'll get in touch with neocities and see if I need to switch hosts. For now, the images in the earliest threads will not be available >>456591 Awww! Interestingly, Tails might have been the only one of the main cast to actually have a formal relationship, since Sonic and Amy seemed to be just FWB >>456594 >Also, I skipped the edited redo and wait for it to come in its FCBD 2011 form, but I am not including it in my list at all, for the same reason I didn't include Sonic #50. I think we can all be fine with that. Any objection? Fair enough. For this Ride, I've tried to include a few extras that aren't necessarily canon, like the Archie Minis and the picture books
>>456597 >For this Ride, I've tried to include a few extras that aren't necessarily canon, like the Archie Minis and the picture books Ironically enough, I am still including those in my list. It wouldn't be complete otherwise. I am simply not including redo (same reason I am not including Sonic Super Special #3)
Setting the first part of Sonic Super Special #14 right after Sonic Super Special #12, because that make Anti-Sonic escape in #14 right after he had been captured in #12 and it's just too hilarious not to do...
That's the second time someone said I skipped a page when I didn't. Not going to reply since it's under bump limit. Might be the schizo, he's already in the thread and posted the war panel with Sonic.
>>456608 Nice! >>456609 Yeah, he actually got me to check again since I sometimes do miss pages >>456610 I guess you could use a tripcode, although it's probably not worth it >>456611 I guess he didn't have any other threads to shit up. I can't believe he deleted two of my Sonknux images though, how mean!
>>456613 >I guess you could use a tripcode, although it's probably not worth it It's not necessary. I'm too much of a routine nut to be properly impersonated. The last time he tried nobody bought it.
Halo on Fire Chapter 3 Page 8-9 https://www.deviantart.com/nazokg All I remember is that Shadow is mad at Nazo and attacked him and now they're fighting.
>>456619 Cute! >>456622 lmao >>456623 I don't remember the specifics but I'm only reading it for the cute twinks, edge and violence >>456625 Not the Konductor, but I've added it to my RSS reader so I'll be notified when it updates. Gotta collect em' all!
>>456591 I saw some commenting on this that they would either prefer Cosmo or Cream to be Tails' love interest. Zoey seems like a decent choice for a safe "first love" story but like others have said, she's a blank slate to do whatever you want. Good luck, Conductor.
>>456625 Nice find! >>456626 >I don't remember the specifics but I'm only reading it for the cute twinks, edge and violence I remember most of the comic not having much of the game characters and focused on the OCs arguing with each other but this chapter seems to have fixed that. >>456627 I guess I'll get a taste of what Ian has endured for years.
>>456628 >I remember most of the comic not having much of the game characters and focused on the OCs arguing with each other but this chapter seems to have fixed that. Yeah, looks like we're getting away from the moping and arguing and getting to the fun stuff >I guess I'll get a taste of what Ian has endured for years. Now you just need a podcast where we can bully you by sending in loaded questions! >>456632 >Banned on /co/ Ha!
So putting “Princess Sally: Ascension” right after issue #68 actually help fix the later exchange Sally and Elias have later, in issue #73.
You can imagine that right after his arrival, and being told by Max that Elias will be the heir, that Elias told Sally that he will not take the succession if Sally want to keep it, partly because he genuinely think she has already proven herself as a true leader and she deserve the priority, but not telling her that he actually doesn't want the crown.
Later, in issue #73, when he has already accepted the succession, he finally admit to her that he doesn't want it.
It's a bit forced,but at least it make sense.
Along the same line, At the end of issue #77, Sally get in tears for nearly losing her whole family due to Robotnik attack and being reminded that her life is in peril.
This could actually contextualise her blown out at Antoine and Knuckles, so there is that. it still doesn't explain her trying to justify genocide, though.
>>456639 He's had his posts and even threads deleted by his mod friend. And I don't think it's because his shitposts aren't tolerated. They probably do it to cover up their tracks. But why even allow such a person to have meltdowns like that if you know you have to delete it to save face?
Someone on Deviantart by the name of Sonic-Ray seems to be doing three toe "paw" edits of Yardley's art. I dare not click on it or else my algorithm will be further corrupted.
>>456645 This nigga never fucking gives up lol. Already back on his feet. And if I remember, he doesnt want to even rule the world right? He just wants to be a cunt scientist. lol
>>456649 If only that person had better editing skills. They could get Gimp for free and learn how to use it. >>456650 Par for the course in this fandom.
What was that, Brutus? Couldn’t hear you! Oh well, I’m sure it wasn’t anything important. Maybe it’s too late to mention that a wishing stone isn’t a very good source of pure power. Warping reality and creating stuff? No problem. Big laser beam? Uhhhhh…
Looks like we won't be getting any more Sonic: Chaos Control for a little while. Poor guy ;_; >>456641 Yeah, it's bizarre to think ABIB's willing to put up with a janny that has such frequent meltdowns >>456642 lmao >>456645 That's what's great about Eggman, he always bounces straight back regardless of his defeats >>456648 Ha! >>456651 >They could get Gimp for free and learn how to use it. That's what I did! It's actually pretty straightforward to use >>456655 Very nice! >>456656 I still don't get why she doesn't have them >>456659 Honestly, I was pretty put out by it too
>>456662 >Yeah, it's bizarre to think ABIB's willing to put up with a janny that has such frequent meltdowns To think such a circus is moderating one of the largest image board forums on the internet. >>456663 He didn't read the instruction manual and paid for it. >>456664 Shadow keeps being the best character in that comic.
>>456666 >To think such a circus is moderating one of the largest image board forums on the internet. Well, you get what you pay for! AFAIK only RapeApe gets paid anything to "run" the site >He didn't read the instruction manual and paid for it. Honestly, I think we've all been in that situation >Shadow keeps being the best character in that comic. He's just so done with everything, it's a lot of fun to watch!
Here's a random spoiler for my comic that will explain what was up with the Source of All and Zonic! In the Archie comics. Sonic and everyone else are expected to help Zonic when it comes to dealing with greater threats that he and the other Zone Cops can't handle. Why did the Source of All not tell Max about Robotnik? Because Robotnik is the one that will force the heroes to get better. Robotnik is nothing more than a practice dummy because there are even greater threats the heroes have to fight. Without spending years fighting Robotnik, they wouldn't be ready. This is why Zonic told Sonic that Sonic Prime has to fight a Robotnik. But it wasn't enough. The Archie reboot happened because Sonic failed. Zonic failed. The Source of All failed. Eggman was just a pawn. They lost to a force that nobody could fight and Sonic was not good enough to stop it.
252 is a lie. Everything and everyone is a lie. And then they were snuffed out.
So my retard of a mother left a cup of unattended water which spilt over my computer and I've had to spend the entire day turning on and turning off my device after drying it off to determine the extent of the damage if any. Which even ignoring missing the Ride, basically means any announcements from my college today are unknown to me. Great.
>getting comics prepared for tomorrow >see there's a sally data file >sally is obviously drawn by penders >see a panel that's added on the page Fucking Penders. This fucking guy. Even the history is cursed. And of course there's an odd inclusion in the known friends spot. >>456674 Page 23 will give a very hopeful hint. >>456675 The Penders containment series is no more and he's sharing a space with Bollers. >>456676 Damn.
>>456661 >Maybe it’s too late to mention that a wishing stone isn’t a very good source of pure power. Warping reality and creating stuff? No problem. Big laser beam? Uhhhhh… Maybe Brutus should have wished for a big Laze canon instead...
Decided to try doing some more art. I think it's an improvement on the last one, although the proportions are moderately messed up. >>456668 Wow, I didn't think you'd reveal that for a few more issues! I do like that OG Sonic gets a second chance at redemption >>456669 Sorry to hear that. For drying out computers and other gadgets, I use rice since it's great at absorbing water >>456677 Yeah, he's still pushing that ship >>456678 >implying Penders was thinking >>456680 That just raises further questions! >>456684 Sonic Super Special #11 maybe?
>>456686 And here's the image that inspired it. I tried to replicate (not trace!) the pose. I've clearly got a long way to go, but at least I've surpassed Many Hands!
There are 10 days between part 2 and part 3 of Lupe's side-story, which set part 3 about AFTER the events of Sonic #71.
Do you care about it's chronological placement with part 1 and 2 of Lupe story taking place right after the main story of Sonic #67, then Elias retrieval in the Knuckles series, then the return of Sonic then the rescue of Nate then Green eyes and THEN part 3 of Lupe's story, or should I keep sticking part 3 right after part 2 of Lupe's story for better story cohesiveness?
I am inclined to keep them all together, but the chronological obsessed nerd that I am can't still resolve to it...
>>456688 >>>>/4chan/co/140821354p140822677 I'd keep them together for clarity >>456689 >I like the detail with the tail around the leg. Thanks! >Girls rule! ? nope, it's just Julie Sue exploring ruins and finding back his adoptive father. Whoops, I was thinking of Sonic Super Special #14: Sonic Stew. She gets kidnapped in that one, and meets her adoptive parents again >I dunno, Many is still better at making a snowy background than you... Now that was some next-level artistry!
>>456690 >Whoops, I was thinking of Sonic Super Special #14 Correct! Thank you.
>I'd keep them together for clarity Yeah, that's what I am thinking too. Thanks for making me depart with my remaining doubt. Interestingly enough, I don't know if it was intentional or not, but the retrieval of Elias neatly fit right after part 2 of Lupe's story, as the storm that block her pack seems to be the same storm Antoine has to deal with at the start of Knuckles #19.
>>456691 >Correct! Thank you. No worries! >Yeah, that's what I am thinking too. Thanks for making me depart with my remaining doubt. It's always tempting to go for strict chronological order, but then you end up with a story that can be difficult to follow >Interestingly enough, I don't know if it was intentional or not, but the retrieval of Elias neatly fit right after part 2 of Lupe's story, as the storm that block her pack seems to be the same storm Antoine has to deal with at the start of Knuckles #19. It is! The storms are a global phenomenon known as the Days of Fury, and are fallout from the Forgotten Wars between the Order of Ixis and the Templar Knights of Aurora
>>456692 >It's always tempting to go for strict chronological order, but then you end up with a story that can be difficult to follow Ironically, the more I have managed to order all this in chronological order, the more streamlined each arc became.
Lupe's story is the only exception to this, so far.
>>456679 Shoulda coulda woulda... >>456686 >Wow, I didn't think you'd reveal that for a few more issues! I do like that OG Sonic gets a second chance at redemption With the latest page, people should start figuring it out. I've hinted at that Zonic thing a couple times at least.
All the talk about the Source of All not warning Max about Robotnik doesn't seem to make sense but on a macro level it definitely does (if it was intended this way) in that if Robotnik was exposed and executed before he could ruin everything and it was mostly peaceful for the Acorn kingdom, would the Freedom Fighters be ready if Mammoth Mogul rolled up? What about Mephiles? Sonic's still got his super speed but not the experience or techniques he picked up through the years. Sally would still be a tomboy princess but not given the chance to lead or even interact with the other kids. Bunnie would never be half roboticized. The Source of All saw all the possibilities and realized what to do (or not do). And it aligns well with Zonic telling Sonic that he has to fight Robotnik.
So what about Sally and the Source of all? Archie Sally rejects the Source of All. To make matters worse, Sonic wasn't able to save Sally in time when she was roboticized. The Source of All realizes this mistake and made sure it wouldn't happen again.
>>456697 Crazy how much more thought you are putting into this than penders ever did. I'm even sure rereading for the storytime just gives you more to improve upon
>>456698 Doesn't seem like Bollers or Ian thought about it that way either since they said that the Source of All was corrupted/evil. And going through the comics has indeed helped. TBH I stopped following the comics during the Dark Ages and even then there's stuff I remember perfectly and stuff I completely blanked out on.
>>456700 I can't even say it's a good idea on paper. But if it's something that created the multiverse and knows what's going to happen and is allowing bad stuff to happen because it all serves as training and its fixation on Sally is because it sees her as a kind of successor then it starts to make sense. When I started my series, I didn't really want to bother with it but after thinking about it and how it can tie so much stuff together I had to include it.
>>456704 No I got it already. I'm still using a lot of stuff Penders introduced but tossing out the convoluted stuff. Locke still exists/existed but there's no Brotherhood. Thankfully multiverse stuff helps organize things better.
>Originally, former writer Karl Bollers, despite considering Nate Morgan to be one of his least favourite characters, had "plans for the ol' geezer" to be put to better use. (1) Karl intended for Nate to be brought back into the storyline as a second tier villain for a story arc named "Metal Madness" meant for issue 150. Miraculously surviving Robotropolis' destruction, the Bem would have deroboticized Nate only for the scientist to be rendered amnesiac as an unwanted side effect of the process. Wandering Mobius with no memories of his life, Nate would have been manipulated by the Badnik Coconuts into building a new Metal Sonic, Tails Doll, Metal Knuckles and Metal Amy by sending them to attack both Knothole and New Megaopolis. With the absence of all the four heroes everyone will mistakenly believe they are the roboticized versions of them. But this plot never came to pass as Bollers left the comic soon after.
>>456712 Some of his unused ideas seemed decent (except for the Sonamy one but I may be biased) but it's obvious that since Sonic Adventure, Bollers hit a snag. I really don't know what happened with him but it's like a different writer compared to his pre-SA writing. Even Sonic Adventure managed to be enjoyable. The issues afterwards is such a drop in quality. Having Ron Lim as the artist isn't helping. Today and tomorrow's issues aren't going to be any better. Maybe worse. Is Gabrie really to blame?
>>>/4chan/co/124403949 Someone asked if there were edits of one of the Penders pages. Turns out there wasn't one of the original page in the last Ride. Even more interesting, you can see a lot of deleted posts. I wasn't even aware the schizo was fucking up the threads back then too.
And here's the Sonic Collection cover that someone else mentioned.
>>456697 Really love this take on things >>456715 Honestly makes him look even more like Galactus. >Even more interesting, you can see a lot of deleted posts. I wasn't even aware the schizo was fucking up the threads back then too. Yeah, he's been around for years at this point. I think I'll add that ride to the website once I sort out the 2010 one
>>456715 Not to sound like a schizo myself, but for one of those schizos we actually like to bring up, as said before, I found out he was on the last ride and became disillusioned with the comic. Then later decided to be a dick and shitpost archie stuff through spam and shit. Like idk what causes a person to be that miserable
Reposting here but Question: how can a sonic character make a fuck up and mistakes without it being too ooc but also not making them completely flawless for you? like sally, sonic, etc. like I’m sure you think about this for your comic conductor
>>456721 From what I've been told, he's been like that for years and has been kicked out of virtually every other Sonic forum. At some point in the past he was mindbroken by Archie and he made it his lifelong duty to shit up any place that allows him to do so. And not only is it allowed on 4chan but it's helped and even encouraged by a mod and he's a janitor. And while we might have some colorful people in our threads, 90% of the schizo shitposting is by that one person. The remaining is either Boco on a occasion when he comes in and talks shit or some other /sthg/ anon.
>>456723 Person Im talking is different I think. Basically used to like archie, didnt, then went on to make everyone who did just as miserable as he is. I've seen his posting history and images posted to see it. I dont really know about that other guy or think theyre the same
We really need threads that allow more images even though the limit here is greater than the ones on 4chan. Bump limit doesn't mean anything here. I have that prince Silver comic I never got to posting and I think there's 100 pages because I was cutting the super long pages up. I'm also getting a bunch of stuff put together from a tumblr that really likes Surge and ships here with Elias. Someone actually storytimed the short comic of Surge meeting Kit before they get abducted by Starline but there's so, so, so much more. >>456724 Oh. The only schizo I know is the one that has a dozen different ways to shit up our threads but they're pretty easy to spot these days.
>>456720 Some really cute stuff here >>456722 Moderate fuckups are fine, provided it's used as an opportunity to grow and they don't just forget everything the next issue/game. Sonic getting rid of the conch in Lost World was fine, but he'd probably make the exact same mistake in future, which would undermine things >>456723 I don't know if it's funny or sad that he's been at it for this long. Then again, Boco and Kuta have been shitting up the community for longer than some anons have been alive >>456726 Yeah, I've got a few comics I wanted to storytime here, but they'd need a second thread. Ideally it'd be a total filesize limit instead of a file limit. I've got 500+ pages of a comic to do but it's only 45mb worth of images.
>>456732 And I've finished the first 50 pages. I figure I'll do them in batches like this >>456778 Yeah, it's a pretty interesting comic in general. Also, it goes fully drawn later on and I really like the artstyle
>>456722 I think the best way to go about it is playing up to a character's flaws.
Take for example, IDK, Knuckles. The games have used this plot point many times, his naiveté makes him trust the wrong people at times. He's not dumb, but he's lived most of his childhood in isolation and thus isn't really too knowledgeable on who's who in the rest of the world.
