>>454706 And this is the most recent page. Seems like Sonic is going to need to learn about patience. Better call Kermit. Now for one more incomplete comic. But this one is weird.
>>454693 My cells are much more roomy! >>454700 Studio execs aren't human, so it probably looked normal to them >>454701 Oh boy, tentacles! This one better continue >>454702 >Again using smaller size but significantly smaller file size. Boo! I want the images to be so big I can see individual atoms! >>454708 Pure edge-kino! >>454709 >There's something unsettling about this comic that is obviously swiping art from other places and presenting it like this. It's like those ransom notes where the letters are all clipped out of magazines >>454713 >And that's it for this. Nooo!
Damn, I really think the fleetway continuation guys are fucking lame. Like I get these are ultimately done for free but they're still lame. No cool things like sonictober and that pic for halloween ASO did. Like they're way more active at least. no real offense but british sonic fans (at least at stco) are just boring.
Biolizard Vore The air in the massive chamber room felt pungent and chilly at the same time, a sacred yet profane imitation of an ancient shrine at the back corner while rivers of glowing cream colored coolant flowed in all directions around stone walking paths. This place was the beating heart of the entire space colony, and standing in the center of it were the Ultimate Life Forms gazing upon one another for the first time.
Shadow gazed up at the massive monstrosity of a bio-synthetic reptile. The surface of its skin was harsh and scabbed, grotesque tubing protruded from its body along its back and poking out from its neck, and a pair of fitting tipped metal prongs poked from the front of its head to serve as eyes. The sight of it filled his heart with a deep sympathy, but the creature appraised the black hedgehog before it with an expressionless face that betrayed no hint of what it was thinking. If it could think at all.
"So you're the true ultimate life form..." Shadow asked rhetorically aloud, his voice filled with pity. In response the lizard reared up and roared out at the hedgehog, a booming screech echoing through the chamber and rippling the water. Its mouth agape let Shadow see into the lizards glowing internals, a sickly flesh color leading to a pale white the further it went along to the back of its throat. The sound sent chills through Shadow, but the sight instilled an unspoken yearning he couldn't put into words. The same yearning that brought him down to the core of the ARK after discovering the secret project files on The Doctors computer that revealed he, Shadow, was not the first that had been created by the project to create the Ultimate Life Form.
Once the Biolizard's roar rumbled to an end it lowered its head to be closer to eye level with the hedgehog. Its sibling, in many ways. Shadow did not know how this creature felt, how it saw him or comprehended its own fate. But he knew what desire burned in his own heart, and he could only hope that this thing felt an equal but opposite desire itself. They were two missing pieces, and together they could finally be whole. Slowly, Shadow reached out a hand to touch the Biolizard's snout, and the synthetic life form rumbled but remained still allowing the contact to be made.
With the tacit acceptance provided, Shadow stepped forward and pressed his entire body against the lizards face, feeling the dull rounded lips opened against his torso while he embraced the snout as best he could. "I wondered why I was created. I couldn't begin to guess what my purpose for existing was. But now I know, there is no doubt in my mind. Do you feel the same way?" He asked, and could only hope the rumble vibrating through the lizard he received in response was a confirmation. Shadow couldn't know this creatures mind or heart, but he had to trust the connection they had in spirit compelled it just as much as it compelled him.
A pang stabbed at Shadow's heart when he felt the Biolizard pull itself away, reaching out in longing for the creature as it reared its head high again. But the concern passed instantly when he looked up to see the lizard opening its mouth and loom high above him, a drip of drool raining down to land on Shadow's smiling face. "Yes. This is my purpose. Our purpose. Take me." He sighed out aloud, lifting up his arms invitingly. And without a moments hesitation, the lizard lunged down and engulfed him. All at once the misty coolant laced air of the outside world was replaced by the organic heat of the Biolizards mouth claiming his entire body, so sudden was the change that he let out a gasp and wiggled against the flesh around him on instinct.
The Biolizard closed its lips around Shadows ankles and then lifted its head up once again, only the hedgehogs shoes poking out from its mouth while the rest of the critter struggled in its maw. After a moment Shadow relaxed, groaning out at the wet warmth compressing around his body and feeling the gentle grinding of the squishing flesh all around him, harmlessly chewing him in a way that felt soothing. He hoped if the lizard was capable of tasting anything, that his flavor was being enjoyed. Eager to fulfill his purpose for existing Shadow tried shifting himself further into the mouth, only to feel the lips holding in a tight seal around his ankles to keep him from going further. After a few seconds of not understanding, a realization occurred to the hedgehog, and with a muffled chuckle he kicked the shoes off of his feet leaving them to land with a splash into the coolant river below and get swept away.
Satisfied, the Biolizard tilted its head back and let Shadow slide towards the entrance to its gullet. Shadow felt the wetness around him grow warmer as he moved towards the glowing pale flesh of the lizards throat, and felt it flow around his body while he was sent away like he was going down a waterslide. The hedgehog made a slight bulge down the lizards long neck as he slid down, and the beast lowered its head and let out a high pitched hiss of satisfaction that lasted until the bulge disappeared from view as it reached the end of its journey. Shadow spilled into the waiting stomach of the Biolizard with a comfortable groan, panting on the pungent air inside and pushing onto his hands and knees while trembling.
The interior of the stomach was aglow with a sickly bioluminescence. The organic space was long enough for him to lay out with his hands above his head before he reached the other end, and wide enough to sit up on his knees before his head bumped against the ceiling. A sloshing puddle of fluids splashed up to his wrists and the walls around him shifted and undulated in a constant organic movement in rhythm with the muffled thudding of a heartbeat. It was oppressively hot, and yet at the same time it felt off with the emotional chill of a sterile lab room.
Shadow frowned sadly and laid face down, pressing his arms and legs out and began rubbing his body against the interior of the stomach. He felt the organ wave around him from the stimulation, and then clench down to compress against his body from all sides until he was forced to curl up into a tight spindash of a hedgehog ball. The puddle of sticky belly fluids splashed against him now filling the smaller enclosed space halfway filled, and the digestive muscle held firmly against his body without allowing an inch of open space. But Shadow was undeterred and continued moving as best he could, gently scritching his quills against his surroundings and pressing with his limbs to rub his shoulders and knees at the stomach walls, even nodding his head to nuzzle at it. There was a work quaking vibration all around him from the stomachs reaction, and the booming thunder of the Biolizard belching out a deep crass gassious discharge deafened out all other sounds.
Then the stomach relented, expanding back to the open shape it had been originally letting him tumble out of his hedgehog ball and sit up. He shook his head sending driplets of gastric fluid to splatter against the walls around him, clearing his head before assessing his surroundings again. The difference filled him with a warmth and brought a smile to his face. The pale sickly color was replaced by a deep warm pink, the walls were soft and ridged with a healthy humidity sweltering around him. Internal fumes flowed in a visible steam as the Biolizard breathed, and a quivering from the stomach walls pressed gently against Shadow in an appreciative squishing embrace. Shadow chuckled and rubbed at the walls, punctuating it with a sigh of contentment and resting back into the fleshy hammock of a stomach in complete satisfaction.
This was where he belonged. It was his purpose to be here, he felt whole and complete now. Separately they were lacking, it was only together that they fulfilled the reason for their creation. The Biolizard surged with a physical resplendence that had long been denied, and Shadow was at peace with the total assurance of what his place in the world was. In the outside world the Biolizard trudged through the coolant of the space colony core to a secluded room it used as a den, never to be seen by any mortal eyes ever again. Its movements were graceful and confident, and the motion reverberated down to its belly causing Shadow to purr amidst the gurgling of the stomach around him.
With the two creations of the project gone AWOL, the scientific research on the space colony was shut down and soon enough all human life aboard relocated back down to earth to find new journeys in life. The ARK was left desolate and abandoned but still buzzing with the perpetual energy that powered it while it drifted quietly in orbit around the planet. The only beings left behind to populate it resting at the very heart of the colony, The Ultimate Life Forms sleeping in unified bliss around and within one another, living eternally through the burble of happy belly and the regular rumble of a belch.
https://www.deviantart.com/fotia-kouneli >What's there to know about the Moebius version of Maria? >If you thought she was meant to be the 'anti Maria', you'd be wrong. Her existence actually parallels Mobius' Shadow; she's the anti-Shadow the hedgehog. >A person who lives not for the sake of others, but for herself. An easy going, and high energy individual that's kind and approachable. >In this dimension, everything on the ARK went exactly to plan. G.U.N never infiltrated it, and Maria was never shot and killed. However, this did mean that Shadow could not survive. Gerald created him to further his biological research to find a cure for Maria's disease, but no progress was ever made. Because of this, Gerald became desperate. >He broke down Shadow's DNA and infused it with Maria's in the hopes that his genetic make-up would cure her of the disease- and it worked. >They both knew this, but Maria couldn't accept that her friend was going to die. Shadow accepted his fate in order to save her. He wanted Maria to promise to use his gift to the fullest- and live the happiest life possible. >In the end, Maria became the new ultimate lifeform and inherited all of Shadow's abilities and it's unpredictability. >Even after 50 years, although she hides behind a face of sunshine, she still fears that shadow's promise has went unfulfilled.
>>454689 >New thread! Again! It’s Halloween and Jollyjack has uploaded a new Meow the Hedgehog comic. So let’s look at all of them! Didn't expect you'll do that one.
>>454693 I also wouldn't approve of these. Even ignoring the kidnapping of children and their presumed deaths, it's utterly terrifying to keep them trapped in such a small space.
Jeez tho, these british are brutal. I'm not saying Archie is perfect, it had it fair share of flaws. But I'm LAUGHING at how perfect they make STC out to be. They still do it to this day lmao. Same guy unironically said STC-O was good. Good joke mate. Ton of them have some grudge over archie lol
>>454803 > seething over Archie I don't think that ever happened.
SatAM had 13 episodes each year, for only two years, not much to go by for a fan. Archie was the next best thing you could get under your teeth while waiting for new episodes to come out, and even more so after there was no more.
I doubt there was much seething about Archie existing from SatAM fans. Except maybe when St John was involved, but that's understandable.
A new comic has come out. Sonic with some interesting proportions, the typical "here's Scourge but it's probably not Archie", and a panel layout that looks like it's multiple choice. This is Fleetway!
>>454819 And that's it for the first chapter of this. And here's a summary of the story. >Synopsis: Sonic is having a bad day and just wants to chill. Eggman decides to wreak havoc like usual. Sonic decides to go super to finish him quickly but the emeralds are no where to be found. He gets more irritated and goes Fleetaway.
Egg Dimension Comic Page 29 https://www.deviantart.com/lonelybrowncow I feel like Boom Eggman would force Sonic to be his best buddy for the rest of his life. Which means watching movies with him and having to laugh at all of his jokes.
Genuine question. Been starting to save fanart I like since a lot of artists I follow have nuked their accounts lately. What advice would you have for archiving art from places like tumblr, twitter, or pixiv? Any way of grabbing shit that's been deleted already?
Amy's Family Chapter 2 Page 13 https://www.deviantart.com/princessgalaxia9 Personally, I don't find offense to it being tagged Sonamy because if it was a comic about Sonic getting physically abused by Sally and it was tagged Sonally, I might get a perverse chuckle out of it. I mean, isn't abusive relationships a cornerstone for Sonadow?
>>454834 I kind of understand people's arguments for wanting to give Sally clothes. They're just kissing there but it looks like it belongs in a porn comic.
>>454814 Oh boy, I cant wait for some Sonurge! >>454816 Tails and Cream aren't friends, in fact we've never seen them together because they're the same person >>454820 Pretty good so far >>454823 Cursed >>454825 Man, this comic is so messed up >that second panel sigh hawt >I feel like Boom Eggman would force Sonic to be his best buddy for the rest of his life. Yeah, that episode where he moved in with Sonic is pretty much what he'd do >>454828 Highly recommend gallery-dl. It'll download images and video from pretty much any of the main sites. I wrote a tutorial on it here: https://the-ride.neocities.org/updates/2023-01-21-gallery-dl/ >>454833 That gay Shadow tshirt is so cute on robo-sonic. I wish I had a robo-Sonic ;_; >>454837 Yeah, he totally does. He was happy to turn of my ability to bump the Birdstone threads but put it back on once we reached the image limit. Missed the thread today but I've got some comics to fill the thread up with
>>454833 I don't know the actual rules for taggin ship, but I think it's fair to tag with a ship a story that explore that relationship.
Someone was mentioning Rosedualist and how she was handling the Sonic/Shade situation in her story better, but she tag the drawings where Shade is holding Sonic against his will and trying to groom him as "sonade" too. The situation is about the same.
>>454839 >Missed the thread today but I've got some comics to fill the thread up with Based. It's hard to predict which threads fill up fast and some are incredibly slow. >>454842 I just think some people are very sensitive when it comes their ship and how it's handled. >>454843 >middle of a fight >eggman makes a bad egg pun >sonic doesn't laugh >eggman's robots stop fighting and he looks at sonic >sonic: ha... ha? >eggman smile and the fight resumes >>454844 Mite b cool >>454849 I was mostly referring to porn of Sonic and Violet.
Frenzy might end with Sonic and Violet maybe getting a kiss but him just looking for adventure again. Would be super based if they got together though.
>>454852 They are definitely ending up together, after that pixiv comic I refuse to see otherwise, it's just too cute and wholesome. I can unironically see Sonic actually wanting to be with Violet.
>>454853 Well on one hand the artist is trying to do an in character sonic, but it just depends if they wanna make their ship a thing. It is their comic after all, well just have to see
Sonic the Continuation Issue 21 Page 14 https://www.deviantart.com/okida Sally and her super cheek tufts are getting a chance to shine, Amy and Tekno go on another date, and Grimer's going back home again.
>>454855 Funny how we are getting all those updates at once. >Sally and her super cheek tufts Okida's style has an unique touch that I love and is a man of absolute taste.
>>454857 Shame but it is interesting to see how both continuations handled the plot. >>454858 It's fine. I'm kind of done with the language barrier and would like it if they could talk to each other. >>454859 Didn't even realize that. Was too busy looking at her cheek tufts and chest. >>454860 STC is so far ahead right now on Patreon. In a couple weeks we'll get the last page of this issue. Turtle Power is still chugging along.
>>454861 On the bright side Violet kinda talks in the lewd comic, so maybe we just have to wait a few more issues for the languange barrier to go. Although I don't mind it
>>454859 >Sallys eyes are too small Sally's red eyebrows need to touch at least a little her eyes or eyelids, even when she only frown a little, so whenever her expression hasn't her eyes wide open. (also, more often than not, her eyelids should cover part of her eyes, resulting in her frequently having bedroom eyes)
Those are design cue that can often be forgotten, but is part of the charm and expressivity of the character.
With that said, Okida's take has its own charm that I won't deny.
I do wonder what should happen after the Archie Ride is over. I'd be fine with the new board and posting only on this site but would I do daily storytimes like before or just post stuff whenever I find them? Also lets others post stuff if they want. And I still think the board and its threads will move pretty slow, especially compared to 4chan. Despite the memes, there's still a finite number of comics to post and even with new comics coming out, we'd cover all of them and there are still some that I wouldn't bother with due to interest or some other reason. Still there's a good amount to do, both saved away somewhere or needing to be translated. I'm slowly getting back into building up more content to post but won't do so until later.
>>454877 I think another sthg equivalent should be made in the new board. Yes it would be slower but the appeal could be that its actually way more moderated since you're gonna be in charge of it. I think that alone would get some people to visit it, but you should try to advertise it to many people. And if the board allows nsfw, porn threads would also be an appeal lol
>>454855 Speaking of S.T.C., seeing he seems to be working on a redemption arc for Super, I wonder if the DLC of Frontiers will be used as an inspiration to visually mark when Super has completely come over.
Then again, seeing he has taken upon himself to do game adaptation, it might take a while before we get there.
>>454880 Yeah, I guess that true. But some other ideas for the Sonic board conductor should take in consideration. So a consistent sthg thread in it where you can post anything sonic, and to make things not too scattered, conductor should use those same threads to also story time whatever they find.
and yes, it's an entire board to post about anything sonic, but there should be a focused point for most people to visit on said board. But of course, if someone wanted to make an entire thread to post just Amy, they can do that. I really hope you take what I say to heart conductor. I believe that will help a lot in the long run.
>>454882 My main issue is that moving the unofficial story time threads on this board might be too much for 4chanplus /co/, as we can already currently see, but having a full board for Sonic might also be too big and result in being quite empty, or worse, turn into circle jerking.
The arrangement there was before the janitor and mod went full moronic, with the 4chan plus thread serving as a backdoor wasn't perfect, but it seemed the most fitting to what the threads needed to be.
Don't know if the mod and Janny would allow things to be back to how they were before the archie ride, once the Archie Ride is over...
>>454883 >Don't know if the mod and Janny would allow things to be back to how they were before the archie ride, once the Archie Ride is over... It's unfortunely not gonna happen. They've made their stance loud and clear and theres nothing we can do about it there.
Like I get some of your concerns but what I desribed is probably what it has to be. Cuz lets say conductor in new board and made a thread for comics, the turnout, to be perfectly honest, would be fucking abysmal with like 2-3 people at most paying attention to it. But if a consistent sthg thread was made, conductor can and should post it there to get people to actually read shit while we also talk about other sonic shit. And yes I have thought about it, most of the board would just be fllled up with our old sthg threads, also why we were offered one so we dont keep filling here on /co/) but I still think a focused point like that would get people to actually go there. And we'll deal with problems as we ecounter them. That just how it gotta be man.
>>454884 Yes. The admin here is more than fine giving us a board since it was their suggestion. We bring in enough people to warrant a board it seems so if it's fine with them then why not? I've jumped through enough hoops and dealt with the worst kind of moderation and we've seen how the entire group of mods are like. It's not going to get any better. It's going to be tricky getting people to come over buuuuuut there are ways. One way is posting links and risking a ban. There's even advertising. We can probably get the new board advertised on other boards here. There's also /v/ and even /vg/ threads. Seems Sonic threads are more tolerated there. But it depends on the kinds of people we get and if it's worth dealing with potential troublemakers. I'm very lax when it comes to moderation so long as it's not destroying a thread and being off topic.
>>454888 >/vg/ Maybe post a link in /sthg/ when you know the next comic you do is very good, but only then. Kind of create a positive feedback and people come more often on their own.
>>454895 Oh, I remember the first part of this comic. The premise was that Amy went Super, but unlike Sonic, her body can not withstand it, so she disintegrated.
https://>>>/4chan/co/140156130 wait, Altair mentioned to tails that Knuckles and Sally know each others? Am I missunderstanding that or did I miss something in the Tails mini-series.
>>454935 Tails said that Althair didn't mention that. It's just Tails awkwardly bringing up his mini because he really wants to talk about it. >>454936 Doesn't make sense since it's so easy to fill up the thread with so much time left. And the board is moving fast. It's beyond futile.
>>454949 >reboot I'm talking mostly about changes that happened still in the preboot. Originally there's this curve on her face and then it becomes more angular later on. I thought it was just a minor detail at first but it changes her entire face shape and I can't stop noticing it now.
>>454931 I'm so glad this one is back, I absolutely love the moody atmosphere >>454936 And to think I was worried I'd over stuffed the thread with that Unleashed comic and the Frenzy art! >>454938 It's fascinating to think our very existence has forced the janny to spend half his day lurking threads about a subject he hates. If it wasn't self-inflicted, I'd actually feel bad for him
>>454958 They are cute but I wanted something more. Goddamn they've been on the verge of being a couple so long and some writers even had them saying as much.
https://>>>/4chan/co/140177159 Slightly frustrating that the Neutraliser is mentioned so many time and is such an important plot-device, yet, it's almost never actually drawn in the comic. Geoffrey used the Neutraliser, yet, I have no idea who was holding it in the first place, or where ever it was.
>>454971 They've both done that. Sonic refers to Sally as his significant other in an early issue. Thing is not everyone thought of them as a couple. Especially Penders and Bollers didn't seem to care for the ship either. Sonic and Sally are just really close to being a couple but never getting to it.
So I was looking into our favorite Sonamy shipper RaianOnzika, and it turns out he's doing another lewd comic. This one's about Tails rebuilding and plapping robo-Fiona. I'm not storytiming it since I only post smut where Tails is unambigiously older, but others are welcome to: https://inkbunny.net/submissionsviewall.php?rid=6885ebb83e&;mode=pool&pool_id=70858 >>454972 Yeah, it's actually pretty frustrating now that I think of it >>454973 Honestly I've seen them as a couple since the start, although they don't immediately put a label on it. Of course, I just ignore Geoffrey every time he's written by Penders. Then again, I also think Sonic and Knuckles are constantly fighting because they're kinda into each other and would plap if their girlfriends were fine with it
>>454975 >This one's about Tails rebuilding and plapping robo-Fiona Pretty good comic. I find it interesting, in SatAM and early Archie robots in general are pretty disposable, even the ones that appear to be more sentient than others, but as time passes they begin to be more humanized, specially once things like Nicole gaining a body and the whole Shard stuff happen, and even characters like Belle in IDW and Sage in the games becoming a thing. So a comic about Auto-Fiona appearing now seems fitting, funny that it's a porn one though.
>>454980 Sonic X made Sonamy toxic and yet acceptable to some people. Thank goodness that version of Amy is gone and while she's still Sonic-crazy she reigns it in and doesn't do all sorts ridiculous stuff as one anon point out in Sonic Battle. I will say I prefer Sonic being casual and flirty rather than being overloaded by Amy's cuteness. That's not how Sonic works. He's too cool for that. Even Boom Sonic gets flustered but awkwardly plays it off.
>>454979 And that's us up to date with the Klonoa comic! >>454994 Yeah, people complain about how many Metal Sonic's get scrapped in Archie but we've seen a heap of robo-duplicates destroyed despite appearing to possess some amount of free will. Kinda fucked up really >>455011 Sonic X ruined a generation of shippers really. I'm glad Boom and later Archie salvaged that character assassination. Yeah, flirty Sonic's way better although the slight awkwardness in Boom was pretty cute
I really don’t know what they were thinking with Amy getting super aggressive and violent when sonic didn’t get her attention for a second. And people thinking sonic owes any for doing that shit. It really is a good thing they’re moving away and low key acknowledging that Amy was bit of a psycho in canon
>check tumblr for some archie art >greeted to see sh*d*llyfag from s*hg made an account >posting their trash there too FUCK! I'm tired of seeing their bottom of the barrel low effort doodles.
>>455032 Yeah, I've been converting them to webms to speed up loadtime but something weird's causing it to break. I've actually got an entire list of things that need fixed, including some cross-board links not working and posts without any text saying "NA." So much to do!
>>455036 Actually, it fits best after after issue #42, which contains the first part of Knuckles's Quest, then Sonic Live has Tails back to knothole for the two first stories and then sonic Live conclude the second part of Knuckles's quest. It actually all mesh not that badly.
https://>>>/4chan/co/140233542 That comment about conflicting stories disturb me. Sally only gave one story, that she knew Knuckles. before that she acted like she didn't really knew him. Not really a story. But maybe it's just me being to anchored on words.
But then there is that comment about Sally having her "memories changed" and THAT really disturbs me.
>>455039 It's later revealed that she's always known Knuckles but pretended to not know him to protect him because he wasn't allowed to talk to anyone during his training. It's weird and doesn't make sense but it's the explanation.
Finally playing Rush again and I'm getting filtered by the first boss. It's been a while but already I dont like how fucking long it takes to even get a hit even with the skill bonus hits
>>455042 They ultimately didn't change. She just feigned ignorance. Her and Knuckles talk about it later when going to Moebius during the issue with Anti-Knuckles first appearing.
https://>>>/4chan/co/140288387 wait, doesn't Sally's memorial appears, before that point, where the people of Knothole congregate around her thinking she is dead, or did I made that up in my head?
All of the events of the Knuckles Series (so starting with issue #1 up #6) all take place right after the event of Sonic the hedgehog issue #50. Anything that contradict that?
>>455067 And done! I'm thinking of doing more webcomics that are no longer available or hard to find. Feel free to make some recommendations >>455101 I decided against using mouse-based gestures since they wouldn't work on mobile. It's been pretty tricky to get all the features to work consistently across desktop and mobile. Which reminds me, I still need to get the post previews to work for mobile too
>>455145 >>455101 You could always just make it conditional, ie. only make the scroll-appear happen if touch events are available and the size of the window is below a certain size.
>The Sonic the Hedgehog franchise surpassed a cumulative total of 1.6 billion unit sales and downloads as of fiscal year 2023. >Sonic Frontiers and Sonic Movie successes contributed to the +15% YoY increase.
>>455146 Thanks! >>455147 Yeah, I'd like to do more with making things more customizable like that but I don't really know much about javascript. I'll be looking into distinguishing touch events and click events for the post previews next, but it's all going a bit over my head. Unfortunately, it's just me doing everything and I'm not a web developer >>455148 Maybe they'll start giving Sonic Team more than a shoestring budget! lol
Sonic and the Freedom Fighters Notes Energy has always been a part of the Sonic franchise but it’s much more important for this series. There’s a hierarchy and various gods with their own power. But all energy, much like anything else in the multiverse, comes from one source. It will be interesting to see how various gods react to a certain character.
Sonic’s been hogging all those transformations. He needs to share them with others.
His name was Enerjak. A great echidna warrior and serving as Pachacamac’s right hand man. He was also very ambitious but remained obedient to his ruler. It seemed he was biding his time until he was presented an opportunity to act. Such a time came when he was called upon to receive a blessing from Chaos.
>>455152 As of now it's listed as "Page 2 of 2." There might be more commissioned or that's it. I've seen some commissioners get batches done and then order more later.
>>455153 >Sonic’s been hogging all those transformations. He needs to share them with others. Now that's interesting
>His name was Enerjak. A great echidna warrior and serving as Pachacamac’s right hand man. Enerjak serving someone else feel weird, to me, bu why not. >Such a time came when he was called upon to receive a blessing from Chaos. That's more like it.
>>455150 And that's the end of chapter 2! >>455153 >comes from one source The mind of Ken Penders! >Sonic’s been hogging all those transformations. He needs to share them with others. I don't know, I always get in trouble for posting transformation comics no mater which character gets tf'd >A great echidna warrior and serving as Pachacamac’s right hand man. That's an interesting direction. Dimitri's always been a nerdy scientist so having a warrior Enerjak from thee start would be cool >>455155 >Enerjak serving someone else feel weird, to me, bu why not. The original Enerjak was an unnamed Albion scientist, so Dimitri was the only incarnation that was a leader.
https://>>>/4chan/co/140326367 Unless I missed a key plot point, this doesn't look like a population that has given up on technology. Then again, everything is relative and maybe "giving up on technology" only means getting rid of your VCR and Sega Genesis.
>>455157 If they had a decent budget Nintendo wouldn't be able to poach all their best talent >and buying more ferraris for Yuji Naka. lmao, he got those Ferraris fair and square: through good old fashioned insider trading! >>455158 The whole thing's dumb, but this is 400 years after they renounced technology, although it's not clear just how much of it they actually gave up. I like to think they went Amish (i.e., tech only where necessary) for a while before fully re-embracing tech again.
>>455160 They've got a long way to go before they reach my level of mastery! Seriously though, it's great to see such talent in artists that young. You can really tell they've put the hours in to get that good. It's also nice to see younger fans enjoying older continuities like Archie and AoStH
Speaking of talented artsit: https://twitter.com/JadePesky/with_replies >This was the establishing page for a comic I wanted to make around my NFF AU. It would have followed a different dimension from the Prime Zone in the Cosmic Interstate, with a frozen over Mobius ❄️ >Digging through my old computer files, I found some scripts I wrote way back when.. Makes me want to pick the project back up maybe.. We can only hope so...
>>455157 naka got fired for asking about salary the fuck they'd be buying him shit for but no i do agree, sonic team's management has always been utter shite no matter how much money or time you throw at them
>see for months of that one schizo telling me sally is terrible and worst of the ffs >read the comic >see that she's a decent compelling character with her own flaws, has good chemistry with Sonic but unfortunely gets fucked by the writers with dumb shit like geoffrey love triangle, etc
>>455167 🔵🦔❤️🦔🔴 It's so unfair they don't have echidnas in unicode but there's room for 5 cuneiform alphabets: 𒊓𒉈𒆪 ❤️ 𒈾𒆪𒍪 >>455169 Some people just really fucking hate her for some reason, mostly for dumb shipping reasons. If you're talking about IDWkun, it's because he was bullied off every Sonic forum, but was most salty about Archie/SatAM fans. Boco hates Sally because he's insane and obsessed with Sonaze. Sally's actually one of my favorite non-game characters because she has such a fun relationship with Sonic, even if you don't read it as romantic. At her core she's someone who was thrust into a de facto leadership position that rose to the occasion. She's caring, yet decisive when needed, and is one of the few people that can keep up with Sonic's banter. Actually, now that I think of it, rising to the occasion has been the core of all of the FF's character arcs. >>455170 Rouge, you've done it again!
>>455172 Agreed. I've even like the other FFs now too tho Sally was always the one to get so much bashing. Those people mad at some old forum shit need to move on for real. Always raving about archie fans not moving on but they literally can't either.
https://>>>/4chan/co/140381489 Wait, if Barbie and her friends weren't attached on the wall like Antoine and Bunnie in the first place, what did Bunnie freeing her right hand serve any purpose?
>>454689 Infested 1-21 https://flightyalrighty.tumblr.com Gross >>455174 Yeah, it's one thing to hold onto a continuity you like but holding onto old grudges is just pathetic. Sometimes I imagine what it'd be like if one of our schizos had to explain their day to someone who only has a casual understanding of Sonic. "I've spent every day for the last several years on an imageboard deleting posts and causing trouble whenever anyone mentions Sally Acorn. Who? Oh, she's this cartoon squirrel I hate from a cartoon that aired before I was born" Absolute madness
I've decided to not read any of the Nights issues. Just going to post them and react to stuff as I go through. I read them during the last ride or tried to. I remember the villain having unreadable dialogue. And the main girl having tits. Just going to blaze through it all in one thread.
>>455179 You can't fix that place but you can possibly win over some anons that are more open to enjoying Sonic content. I remember an anon saying they used to be over there but came to like Sonic comics and how our threads are and prefer being here. So there's that.
Another WIP and it's Nicole! Last page of issue 4 is by WhiteSexyRabbit (the second and newer artist) and Kakashihata (the one who's been working on the comic from the start) is working on the two previous pages. Things are rolling along and I'm ready to move on to the next arc. With a third artist interested in joining next month, the thought of a second series for Knuckles is on my mind more than ever. >>455189 I'll keep that in mind when the page is finished.
I'll blame it on the writers rather than the character, because it really make no sense, but it simply make no sense for Sonic to do nothing about Antoine's father. It's not like he had a fix mission he has to go to, he could just stay and sort this out.
But I guess that for the sake of Rob needing a sheriff to fight.
Still, I hate when writers pull that sort of contrivances, only to have the characters bite back by afterward, because by then, they have realised that "oh yeah, that was a fucked up thing to do in the first palce..."
>>455190 Also to add, it’d be nice to see a knuckles series from you and see the hints of what his life is like to action. Just don’t make it weird as penders lel
>>454689 https://www.deviantart.com/princessgalaxia9/ Amy's Family - Ch 2 - 14 Sure, the ominous figure seems like an important development, but instead, I am more intrigued on how it seems the line between Robo Sonic and Sonic is starting to blur, maybe.
Also, Conductor, it might look like PrincessGalaxia9 has seen your question and decided to give you a clear answer: for her, it's 4.
>>455180 >>455181 This. I get the feeling we'll win over most of the non-schizos once we have our own board >>455183 You know, if your comic was published in IDW they'd make the artist change that expression. Pic related was a revision made for the TBP >>455185 Damn, that artist does some good smut >>455190 Cute! >the thought of a second series for Knuckles is on my mind more than ever. That'd be so cool! >>455191 Yeah, it's one of those "we could resolve it, but want to keep it for a later issue" when it comes to the sheriff
>>455198 I love his cute little Shadow top >>455205 >Once I destroy Amy, I'll be the cutest pink one! Brutus plz! >>455206 lmao. I just wish she'd admit they're a couple already
>>455207 >Pic related was a revision made for the TBP SOVL vs soulless >>455208 >lmao. I just wish she'd admit they're a couple already Must be rough living in the No Gays Allowed Zone.
Oh, and before I forget. Did anyone end up reading Sticky Floors? I was thinking of doing more webcomics that have since been deleted but wanted to gauge interest first. Also happy to take suggestions. Anyway, you can read it here if you're interested: >>455066
>>455209 >SOVL vs soulless It totally is. The sidemouth doesn't even make anatomical sense! >Must be rough living in the No Gays Allowed Zone. Yeah, that's gotta suck. I'm not sure how KrazyELF, TooDamnCycle and the rest get away with it
>>455210 No need. The thread is at already 440+ posts. >>455211 >Yeah, that's gotta suck. I'm not sure how KrazyELF, TooDamnCycle and the rest get away with it I feel bad when I see artists obviously want to do gay stuff and I see they're from Russia and I understand why they don't.
>>455212 I skimmed through most of the thread but gave up due to the schizos. I have no idea what causes them to spend so much time talking about stuff they hate >>455213 >I feel bad when I see artists obviously want to do gay stuff and I see they're from Russia and I understand why they don't. Yeah, I'd be doing the same in their position. I hope things improve for them at some point
I just read through SatFF and I do like it but I got some problems with it. I think dialogue is fine for most part but comic has a habit of characters just explaining backstory and stuff. Kinda bad in issue 1. Like I get it needs to happen but it’s weird to see a lot of exposition dumping often. Also I think the various canons things being added so much needs to be toned down a bit as you keep adding a ton and can be a bit hard to digest. Don’t wanna pull an Ian with setting too much plot points and shit instead of focusing on the story quality. And since the comic is called Sonic and the Freedom Fighters, I’d like to to a lot more interpersonal relationships they have. Like we make fun of the whole sonic bechdel test. So I really wanna see what relations members have between each other specifically than just sonic. I get the comic focuses a ton on sally and sonic but I don’t want them to just talk to each other even as someone who loves the ship. I’d like to see them interact with others like sally & Tails, sonic and bunnie, etc. also I’d read some books on making comics and writing advice to just generally improve in creating.
I hope that was clear, and understandable. And to make it even clearer, it’s not from a place of hate but love to make sure you can make the bestest sonic fan comic evar!!! So don’t feel too bad. Pic unrelated
>>455224 Thanks for the comment! Let me respond to the various things. >the flashbacks allow the series to get some background info out of the way and not have the characters awkwardly bring it up and that's why they're limited to a few pages each issue >i will be cutting down on different plot points and characters for the next arc although there's still some side stuff going on, it's mostly setting up stuff later on >for example, you get an idea of what happened to mobotropolis but you don't know exactly what happened and why, stuff like that isn't necessary and that will be touched upon later >even though people are used to seeing sonic and sally interacting with each other, that's not the case in this new series and shouldn't be skipped over or reduced >sonic and sally's emotional reliance on each other is a very important element and i want that laid out as soon as possible (i could just toss all the other characters aside and make it entirely sonic and sally, there are plenty of comics that focus on a ship) >there are plenty of instances of the various characters talking to each other and the series is still in its first full arc (not counting the first issue) so there's a need to establish the major relationships and have those characters interact with each other >for example, bunnie and antoine are a known couple but in this series the first step was just taken for them to go from friends to something more >in order to make this transition look more natural there needs to be scenes of them interacting with each other >and the sonic 2 arc will be focusing on sonic and tails' relationship which is why i was fine with tails not doing much in the sonic cd arc but i still had him get hurt and show sonic get concerned and angry which also led to him suggesting they kill eggman (a statement made in the heat of the moment) and bunnie chastising him I never want to shut down criticisms and I do pay attention to what people say, good or bad. But I have seen people come to conclusions and treat the comic like it should be one thing or that it shouldn't cover something that they've seen enough in other comics. Managing a team of protagonists isn't easy and some characters and interactions with characters will need to be fleshed out over time. That is all taken into consideration. It just takes time to do so.
>>455205 Butus couldn't get the Sally puree he wanted, so he is aiming for a Sally Barbecue instead.
(side note, and you might have noticed it already, but just in case, in the first speech bubble, I think "we have to put a stop this" should be "we have to put a stop TO this")
https://www.deviantart.com/misstangshan95 >And to celebrate this milestone of a comic which has been my adult life's work since I was 18, I am excited to announce a mini digital style comic taking place between the proposal and the wedding day. >This will centre around Sonic and Amy practicing dancing for their big day in the very same setting where it all began. So look out for: >A Short Sonamy Comic: 'Courtship Falls' >coming soon
>>455235 Can you believe they actually tried to shit a Lower Decks thread, saying no one wanted to talk about this show, claiming it should be an ADC thread instead and started having "argument" about it in it?
Hey TP, don't know if that was intentional, but you archived the Night thread way too early: https://the-ride.neocities.org/threads/140416184 There were tons of great art worthy of collecting after the end of the story-time.
>>455224 While I enjoy the current pace, I can see why all these things happening so fast can make it a little harder to follow. That said, it's hard to strike the right balance between keeping the comic moving fast enough that the main plot won't take a decade. Assuming 2 pages a week that's around 100 pages a year, which would mean we'd need around 10 years to do 50 issues and 150 years to match Archie's pagecount. I definitely agree about wanting to see the non-Sonic cast get more relationship development. Fortunately we'll be seeing more of that in the upcoming issues >Pic unrelated Hard disagree, the comic should've pivoted to nothing but Sonknux smut ages ago! I kid, I kid >>455227 I've got to say, you do a great job of responding to criticisms and comments here and elsewhere. I always find that stuff difficult >>455229 >I repeat... please don't be a fetish... With tentacles on the cover, I'd be more surprised if it didn't >>455230 >Classic Boom Knuckles. Oh my! >>455232 >coming soon Just finish the main one first! >>455235 Delightfully devilish Konductor! >>455238 Self-insert comics are my secret favorite! I just love the idea of a fan having the balls to say "yeah, that's me hanging out with Sonic, saving the day and macking on all the hotties, what of it?" >>455243 >Hey TP, don't know if that was intentional, but you archived the Night thread way too early Archived now! I usually archive once the storytime is over and then again when the new thread is up. The process is pretty fast (and fully automated now!) so I'm fine with doing it multiple times. I'll also archive during a storytime just so I can see the deletion times for posts to confirm what our special friend's up to >There were tons of great art worthy of collecting after the end of the story-time. I'm surprised I didn't get in trouble for any of them!
>>455245 >At first, i thought RoseDuaelist had drown a Mobian-sonna for TP, but it turn out Komometz the Bat King is an actual AostH character lmao, that's almost exactly how I'd design a Sonicsona, right down to it being a bat! Now I'm wondering if AoStH subconsciously influenced me >>455246 No worries! I usually archive more often, mostly depending on how much I'm procrastinating
>>455198 Looks like Robo Sonic is not allowed to have fun. If that's still Robo Sonic?
>>455208 >I love his cute little Shadow top I wonder if him not having fully integrated Sonic's memory just accidentally took it from Shadow, or if Sonic actually has Shadow-themed night-clothes in his closet, somehow.
Also, it looks like the Yandere Smile is non-symmetric, teeth-wise, which explain why I had so much difficulty making it out the first time it appeared.
>>455249 >I wonder if him not having fully integrated Sonic's memory just accidentally took it from Shadow, or if Sonic actually has Shadow-themed night-clothes in his closet, somehow. I honestly think he has it just because he likes Shadow in a (probably) platonic way and is a genuine fan of him >Also, it looks like the Yandere Smile is non-symmetric, teeth-wise, which explain why I had so much difficulty making it out the first time it appeared. Yeah, the left image is regular creepy smile Amy with regular eyes and the right one has an asymmetric smile with a pointy tooth and dark eyes. The second one is shown in more detail behind robo-Sonic here: >>455198
>>455244 >I've got to say, you do a great job of responding to criticisms and comments here and elsewhere. I always find that stuff difficult The most difficult balance for me is listening to feedback deciding whether to take the advice or refuse. Because someone shouldn't change their work based on the opinions of others but if there are things holding the comic back and ways to improve it then ignoring such advice isn't good. I should be more selfish since I think a creator is better when they listen to their intuition more than others. As long as I don't pick up any of Penders' bad habits. Imagine being his apprentice and having him talk to you and tell you what to do on a daily basis.
>>455256 NTA, anon who made the post about your comic and I read your reply. I hope it didn't entirely seem I was trying to change your comic too much. I just wanted to give some criticism among the compliments you get, and yeah, I hope you dont become a penders like egotist lol. Just want to make sure your comic can truly excell
>>455257 It's no problem. I understand. Handling character interactions and figuring out who to include and what continuity to take from is tricky when there are so many moving parts. At least the criticisms aren't anything major like being unreadable or full of unlikable characters or it's boring or nonsensical.
>>455258 True. If anything, I hope the ride you're doing will just refresh your memory on stuff that didnt work to avoid and stuff that did to strengthen that and missed opportunities for good storytelling to implement
>>455256 Yeah, it's a tricky one. I think it's pretty normal to make a few minor changes when readers point out something interesting, but I wouldn't want to make any major changes. It's important for there to be a strong author's voice in the comic, so long as you don't go full Penders! Rereading the old Knuckles comics it's surprising just how good he can be at writing. It's pretty clear that closing himself off to all criticism caused the majority of his issues. Dude didn't even take Dawn Best's advice on retooling his Echidna redesigns >>455262 I guess it's not just us then. Really goes to show how much one mod can do to drive off users. Interestingly, 2021's around the same time /trash/ overtook 4/co/ as a more popular board
>>455270 I am very well of people like him, but how I see it, some of them like to puff out their chest in convos to idw and archie to act like their the shit around town.
One thing that I've noticed reading the earlier comics is that the FFs seem to actually have more in terms of special abilities than in the later ones. Bunnie with all the stuff she pulled during Mecha Madness, Antoine using a power ring to boost his slashes, and even Sally using Nicole to pull some interesting tricks.
I've also tried looking at wiki pages of those characters to see if I was missing anything and there wasn't anything new.
What do you guys thing about it? I know that at least OP is making a comic about those characters. Personally I think the less serious nature of those early issues might have allowed the writers to pull stuff like pic related without needing to give it any explanation.
>>455291 >What do you guys thing about it? It's fairly typical of beginnings of long-running story. At the start, you still have everything to establish, you try new ideas on a regular basis and stick with what work and forgo with what doesn't.
As the story progress, you have the characters and their capacities better figured out and adding more might start cluttering the whole thing, so they are more established in their roles and capacities.
>>455296 The congress had voted in a rare, almost unprecedented, for a couple of decade at least, unanimous way to put an end to that shit, and yet it still there. This make me think this shit goes deep.
>janny deletes harmless Blaze discussion after letting all the borderline NSFW Nights stuff in the last thread stay. At least now I know his preferences.
What are your guys autism regarding certain things about the ffs designs? For me, sally needs fluffy cheeks, almond eyes, red eyebrows not too thin, bunnie- as long as she dont have hair that looks seprate and a purple clothes, antoine - he needs the jacket, and for rotor, he needs fluff on his sides and the hat
>>455312 I can also hard-confirm after observing it in action and the fact he used the same "smug Sally to bait people" and "only 20YL is canon :^)" shitpost tactic, that the anti-Taiream schizo is definitely Pixy falseflagging. In fact, him nuking all the Blaze posts directly coincides with the MASSIVE uptick in posts getting autistically angry over Tails and Cream being shipped, and baiting about how she's more into Sonic.
So if you see that specific schizo, just keep in mind that it's him and he's probably going to delete posts in order to make his sperging stand out more.
>>455315 if he's the one who said 'marine would be cared if she appeared in one game' it's either baiting or ignorance, and i'm inclined to believe the former because i'm petty as fuck when it comes to people deliberately ignoring that the internet was going scorched earth on 06 and anything bad that 06 represented, including shitty friends, which bled into the subsequent games that came out as they were scrutinized because the last straw had been drawn and so people back then were willing to hold sega's feet to the fire until they complied with their demands, which includes ejecting anyone who wasn't a genesis character until it was too late, and now sega doesn't have the interest nor ability to make a modern model for marine because all of it was sapped when those fuckheads ended up becoming investors for sega (journalism n shit became one of sega's primary target audiences)
>>455316 The entire shitty friends thing was the big catalyst for so much going wrong with the franchise and even now with people slowly realizing how much damage it actually did, it's quite clear there's no fixing it. Everything has been irreparably fucked.
>>455317 To be honest, the autistic shitposting did make me aware that Cream and Tails have pretty much never interacted in any major way despite appearing in so much media together. The fact they're paired by people regardless of that is pretty funny.
>>455319 I became aware of it before the shitposing, it's funny to me how aggresive they get over something that's really inoffensive. The only way I could see someone having such a huge hateboner for it is if they a) Already ship Tails or Cream with someone else b) Hate a certain character from the ship and its fans c) Is a huge nerd that must correct everyone's headcanon and hate the fact they have said headcanon in the first place. >The fact they're paired by people regardless of that is pretty funny. It's the power of looking cute together and being close to the characters of the biggest ship.
>>455321 I think that romance for them is hard and kinda boring, Cream is like Cosmo minus the tragic backstory. I can still see them as good friends but the way some fuckers talk about them is like they would hate each other and then start to talk about cuckshit. Weirdos.
Next thread is going to be interesting because after the Knuckles issues we're doing the issue that unironically has made Ian seethe for years to the point where he sabotaged a ship and pretended it never happen. And then the thread after that? Sand-BlastersI didn't realize that Jack Rabbit started off barefoot.
>>455300 Missed today's thread ;_; Caught up now, and nice to see mai waifu Regina's first appearance! Nice to see our special friend's still seething over the twink claiming. Some nice Max-being-a-terrible-father kino today too >>455302 Oh boy! >>455310 He really is a jerk. It only makes him hotter though >>455312 He was extra salty today. Clearly he was pining after me! >>455326 It's always fun to see the parts that bring out writers' biases. >spoiler Oh boy! >spoiler Truly a monster >>455327 Plap plap!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Nicole is so cute! Even cuter in the other panels on this page! >>455329 >Missed today's thread ;_; Caught up now, and nice to see mai waifu Regina's first appearance! Nice to see our special friend's still seething over the twink claiming. Some nice Max-being-a-terrible-father kino today too I passed out right after the thread and woke up to find it on page 10 with 600+ posts. I thought it would've at least lasted to early morning.
>>455333 Yeah, I've seen it a lot and am not a fan personally >>455334 >Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Nicole is so cute! Even cuter in the other panels on this page! She's adorable! >I passed out right after the thread and woke up to find it on page 10 with 600+ posts. I thought it would've at least lasted to early morning. Probably for the best, IDWkun's meltys are becoming a snooze-fest anyway >>455335 Such a cute Tails doll >>455336 We'll have to do all the mangas at some point
Sonic and the Freedom Fighters Note If Tails is looking for Sonic and you tell him that he’s with Sally but not specify what they’re doing then he’ll let out an annoyed sigh and not bother looking for him until later.
Tekno was originally going to be part of the Sonic 2 arc, working for the Battle Bird Armada. She was going to be conflicted about working for them and would fall for Sally when they met. Sally would ultimately reject her (letting her know the only reason was because she was already in a relationship). Tekno would then help the Freedom Fighters.
>>455341 He's so dreamy! >>455342 Honestly, we should put the artists on full-time reaction image duty >>455343 >Tails Poor Tails, he's constantly having to tune up the suspension on that racecar bed >Tekno lmao, Sally's cornered the market in Amy's suitors! Let's hope this Eggman's also good at building realistic robot duplicates! >>455345 Soon all Tikals will be Hangin' Out Tikals!
>>455346 >lmao, Sally's cornered the market in Amy's suitors! Let's hope this Eggman's also good at building realistic robot duplicates! Tekno also has a crush on Amy. Not sure if that'll be covered in the comic.
>>455343 >first note Poor tails, probably stumbled into them doing it to it I like to imagine after their first time, sonic and sally cant stop doing it. and find any excuse to make out To make it funnier, its usually sally who initiates sexo time than other way around >>455334 >>455342 cute!
>>455343 Honestly dont mind you making Sally a bi person in the comic. Would make for some good humor like her playfully making Sonic jealous by checking out some chick.
>>455343 >If Tails is looking for Sonic and you tell him that he’s with Sally but not specify what they’re doing then he’ll let out an annoyed sigh and not bother looking for him until later. The curse of the little brother - wanting to find your big brother, but he's too busy fucking somewhere.
>Tekno was originally going to be part of the Sonic 2 arc, working for the Battle Bird Armada. She was going to be conflicted about working for them and would fall for Sally when they met. Sally would ultimately reject her (letting her know the only reason was because she was already in a relationship). Tekno would then help the Freedom Fighters. RIP Teknally. But hey - Shorty is still on the table!
>>455351 Having all the characters be bisluts is so much more fun. No one's safe from flirting! >>455355 >Shorty is still on the table! Not once he's in my basement he won't! >>455356 Let's hope they're not stuck there for three (3) entire years!
>>455262 Oh yeah, I'll also add that they recently added a retarded new 'law' for /tg/ where threads automate after 7 days without fail, so any slower threads or generals will automatically die off even if there's ongoing discussion because there's not enough posters/constant shitposting to keep them alive.
They're too lazy to actually moderate the board, so they're using this half-assed method to get rid of threads they don't like which fucks over everyone.
>>455362 Having 4/co/ regularly washed clean in a wave of peridot radiance is a small price to pay to ensure constant vigilance of our threads! >>455364 Nah, we're objectively worse! The sheer audacity of storytiming a popular comic (that's even based on a cartoon) on a comics & cartoons board is frankly blasphemous
>>455366 The writer is from Chorea, but maybe they still had access to Archie comics, there? Anyway, here he said he grew up with Sonic X, which didn't had Omega (I think?), but had Cream, Rouge and Shadow.
So I've been looking at 4stats.io again and noticed something interesting: we're by far the most popular thread during our storytimes, moving 3 times faster than any other. We're also responsible for 20% of the board's posts while we're storytiming. I'm starting to see why IDWkun and ABIB want us of the board so badly
>>455389 They allow some of the worst threads on /co/. It's been when there's more Miles hate threads than actual Spider-Man threads. And the /a/ bait threads will also run rampant. I've seen some really shit threads all pop up around the same time and I'm starting to wonder if they're made by those two.
>>455390 Honestly if I were running 4chan, I'd be taking a good look at popular boards that are dropping users and 4/co/'s right at the top. Even a cursory glance would show something weird's going on and looking at the moderation logs would show they've been sabotaging the site for years now. >Miles hate The dude gets one movie and the jannies lose their minds >I'm starting to wonder if they're made by those tw They probably did. Even if they didn't, by leaving them up they're signalling that those sort of threads are okay >>455391 It is a nice feeling! I also like the idea that once we leave, the stats will get even worse >>455392 Gotta bait fast! >>455393 I don't know what that is, but we're certainly a major part of the board now
>>455400 It's inevitable when /vr/ keeps accepting newer and newer gens. They're already at the point where games discussed on /vr/ play almost the same as modern releases.
>>455398 >grabber.zone He never did get back to me about the forum spam ;_; >>455400 Ultimately that's what happens when the site owner doesn't take an interest and instead lets mods run a site. The exact same thing happened to Something Awful, which is ironic considering 4chan was started in response to Something Awful's heavy-handed moderation
One of these days anons will understand better thread management so they last longer. Then again it's better that it dies faster than stuck at half the bump limit but the time it's the next day.
>>455403 Honestly, I prefer to get all of my Sonic autism out in one session and see it archive. We've always got here for unrestricted conversation. Fun fact, we're still the fastest moving thread on 4/co/, with twice the post rate of the Death Battles thread
>>455405 I'm more concerned about those that want to read the comics but can't do it until later. Even though they can still read it in the archives some have said they'd like to discuss and interact with others as well. >>455406 It's not that big of a deal. I think if the thread is at around 400 posts by the time it's nighttime then it can comfortably go through the morning and even noon. I only get worried if the thread is under 250 posts during that time.
>>455407 I'd be fine with non-porn Sticks romance. Seeing her actually going on dates and falling for someone without it directly leading to her taking a footlong dicking that you have to be a patron to see would be nice.
>>455408 As much as I miss having the threads up all day, it's not like readers can't find the threads in the archive or on the website. If they still want to talk, I've got three separate links to these threads on the website's homepage >>455409 Exactly! The episode where they tried to teach Sticks manners showed Knuckles and Sticks ad a fancy restaurant would be pure kino. Also, them going on nature hikes would be super cute
>>455411 >As much as I miss having the threads up all day, it's not like readers can't find the threads in the archive or on the website. If they still want to talk, I've got three separate links to these threads on the website's homepage I also like having a thread on there as long as possible to also annoy the mods. >>455412 Sticks has a lot of porn for someone that doesn't have much non-porn romance.
Every single page for issue 4 now has a WIP and only two pages need to be done for it to be complete. And the cover and first three pages of issue 5 is already done. We're moving along a lot faster now.
>>455415 I mean fanart and fancomics. Not sure about fanfics. Only porn but barely any actual romance is a crime IMO. She's a fun and cute character and yet most of her fanart is porn. Barely anyone tries to do anything with her character aside from being the schizo side character. Even the show slowly uses her less often in the second season.
>>455417 > Even the show slowly uses her less often in the second season. I mean, not as much as sticks fans love her. She literally only has one joke and a select things to keep saying before it gets old, so I can't blame the showrunners for that.
>>455420 I know that's why I was hoping it gets better for that. I do hope thats something you can do one day. being super honest, if you need more money, play into the shipping with potential knuckles series with rouge, the money will come rolling in from shipperbux to do more comics
>>455414 >I also like having a thread on there as long as possible to also annoy the mods. That too! If they weren't such shits about multiple threads I'd be running threads when they're asleep >>455416 Gotta kino fast! >>455417 Yeah, that frustrates me too. There's so much potential for fun there but it's all smut or nothing >>455420 I really need to email you back ;_;
>>455421 I've gotten some new patrons so it's not all bad. Just a bit of a ways off to pay another artist every month. As for shipping, I could also do a Sonamy comic to really rake in money but I'm not going to.
>>455423 Just had a look and those numbers are great! Lots of new Patrons in the last month, and the overall patron growth is either steady or accelerating >won't do Sonamy >won't sell feet pics >won't sell your bathwater Damn you and your principles!
>>455427 Yeah, but it'd be harder to get a recognizable substitute for crack or meth under the censors. The rat wasn't arrested because he "didn't know" about all the drug dealing. Of course, the real reason is so they'd be able to reuse him and the setting again later >>455428 Yeah, that's what I meant. A black Spiderman getting a major movie probably got their panties in a twist >>455429 Mulan | I'll Make a Man Out of You | Disney Junior UK
>>454839 >Highly recommend gallery-dl. It'll download images and video from pretty much any of the main sites. Thanks, I'll mess around with it. Does it do mass downloads?
>>455431 No magic pool of honey though >>455432 It's pretty much all I use it for! I feed it a text file with around 1000 DA accounts to keep my archives up to date. I've also got ones for tumblr and twitter
This isnt comic related, but didnt the dream team thing bother any of you ? Not just the Apple exclusivity part, but how it seemed to have better features, at least judging from the trailer, compared to the overpriced Superstars.
>>455434 Not really. Sega said multiple times that they were making bank with mobile. And as soon as Arzest got announced I already expected Superstars to be shovelware.
>>455434 It'd be bad enough if it was just an Apple exclusive, but it's an Apple Arcade exclusive so you're basically renting the fucking thing. >>455435 I had a look at other storytimes and they're slightly under 1 post a minute, which makes sense considering most storytimes are pretty silent, with only non-op posts for bumps. Storytimes like ours, where lots of anons are commenting live, are actually in the minority. We can get a thread to 500 posts in 4-5 hours, whereas storytimes of new IDW issues take around a day to get to 500. The other Sonic threads are even slower, hanging around for over a day despite having way more IPs than ours. Now that I think of it, the only other fast moving regular threads I see are for Tamers, but they only occur once a fortnight when a new episode releases >>455436 You'd think hiring a shovelware developer would at least mean a shovelware pricetag!
>>455437 Decided to do more number crunching. We do around 700 posts in our threads, but could easily get to over 1,000 a day if we were allowed an extra thread. This might not sound like a lot, but 4/co/ only has 19,000 total posts a day. Without restriction, we'd actually be 5% of the entire board. 5% isn't a lot, but it's enough for other anons to at least check our threads out and see what 4/co/'s culture could be like. From that perspective I completely understand why they've worked so hard to see us gone. In their shoes, I'd have tried even harder to get rid of us.
Interestingly, with those numbers we'd be faster moving than /vm/ if we were our own board. If you added /sthg/ and various Sonic threads on /v/ and 4/co/ we'd be faster than /mlp/ and potentially /vp/.
This has actually completely changed my perspective on things. Not only do I want a Sonic board here more than ever, but I really don't want one on 4chan.
>>455438 I've still not played either. I don't trust modern Sonic Team to make a bug-free 2D title without the Mania devs' direct supervision. Also, I'm not paying more than I did for Mania to get an objectively worse game
>>455440 Just had an absolutely disgusting thought: Does it count as a threesome if Nicole puts on a porno for them or do they need to be attaching some peripherals?
To start a lil discussion, is there a more redundant/pointless character than jewel? Like she got replaced by lanolin and even more forced to the background than she was. She was supposed to be tangles best friend, but whisper exlusively has that role now as theyre never apart these days.
>>455462 Any character can be salvaged. I like her being the secretary. Just get someone to be the leader of the whole thing that she works under. Lanolin can have her team. I think... Sally should be brought in. I know that sounds like bias but trust me on this. Sally would love to have someone like Jewel working for her.
>>455463 Heh, thats expected of you to say that. I guess Sally would like Jewel for running things. I would like to hear more what you think on that. Also, as more and more as I read archie, the whole "lanolin is just sally" thing doesnt make much sense aside a very basic surface look.
>>455464 The problem with IDW's Resistance/Restoration is that they don't act like an organization and they disappear way too often. They're background noise. In Archie, the Freedom Fighters are more than just a group, they've become a global force that influence everyone. And the main Freedom Fighters are not just friends but also a pseudo family. IDW has no focus but even at Archie's most scatterbrained they're more organized. And Archie has some weird patches we have yet to get to. At least the IDW characters interact a bit but they don't feel as close as the FF. Lanolin being compared to Sally was just the first impressions and expectations. That died down when she started being written more. Which is disappointing because making a Sally expy is what IDW needs. Trust me. Totally not biased.
>>455465 The restoration position is weird as you said. It's important yet not important. And that is weird, they probably have way more money than the FFs ever did but don't really do global and only local. Maybe because Eggman isnt such a global threat. For the closeness aspect, I think thats because they're not allowed to make any of them that close to the game characters which sucks, and for each other, i dont really see them being so close with all the crying and arguing we see. >That died down when she started being written more I still see it often and it kinda says alot about lanolin is when she's only compared to the surface level traits of another >Sally expy is what IDW needs. Trust me. Totally not biased. Sure ;)
>>455385 Wait, did I miss an issue or is it never clarified that it's Juli-Su who let the bottle of water and the tool to free the Chaotix, in the desert?
It's actually a comic adapatation of an already existing fanfic, with the oddity that Chapter 2 has already been completed on twitter (with some more mature content) while Chapter 1 is still being uplaoded on DA.
Now, I would have let conductor inform you of all this, as I wouldn't be surprised he has been made aware of this comic already, and I won't post it whole now, not when Chapter 1 is not complete yet, but you see...
>>455476 I'm not entirely againist sally and sonic having some arguements but knowing its involved a love triangle fan fic means just the worst to happen
>>455476 ...Seeing it was based on an already existing fanfiction, I couldn't but go there and check the tags and...
Affairs, Secret Relationship, lying, Cheathing, Friends With Benefits, Marriage Proposal, sonic needs to think, amy is not always nice, shadow is a dick but also nice, Sex, No romance at first, Pregnancy, Drama, its all about sex, This shit is gonna get dark, Attempted Rape/Non-Con, Threesome - F/M/M, Miscarriage, Murder
I am starting to get worried guys... (on the bright side, Rob o' the Hedge and Manic are also in it)
I spent an hour and an half compling the rest of the grams and stuff for the rest of the brave new world/world new tour era. Surprisingly exhausting. No wonder why conductor doesnt bother posting them, so I can be the chump to do it instead!
>read last thread >people (even Thirstposter) acting like the mandates don't exist >again Do I need to bring up both the Boom and Prime writers stating that the mandates exist and they had Sega give them a hard "No" to not being allowed to do anything fun? Because I will if people are going to be retarded again.
Ian is extremely bitter and clearly doesn't give a shit anymore which is why he's burning so many bridges with fans, but the existence of the mandates has never been in question.
>>455458 I like to think they're both switches, that way they can argue over it >>455459 Absolute perfection! Move over Sonally, I've got a new favorite Archie ship! >>455462 Honestly, we don't get to see her (or most other characters) do much. Maybe if we had an issue showing a day in her life, trying to get some paperwork done but actually ends up helping a bunch of people and maybe even foiling a nefarious plot. Something like through her paperwork works out Rough and Tumble are about to do something naughty, but all the teams are busy so she and the people she's helped out go and stop them. >>455467 Moderation. If people want to act like schizos they've got 4chan >>455469 It really is, and I don't even blame the so-called mandates. All of the non Evan and Ian stories have been fun and compelling. Scrapnik Island and that Team Sonic Racing comic were a lot of fun and felt very in-character >>455471 Frontiers and the movies have been great, and even Prime's had its moments >>455476 Drama, HISSS and Elias? Sign me up!
>>455481 I sometimes read Retro, but have never posted >>455487 Thanks for doing all that! Eventually I'll be adding them to the mega >>455488 Maybe I should clarify: Sega (like every company) have requirements on how their characters should look and act. Even early Archie had to redraw things to give Sonic and Tails 5 fingers. There's no big list on what's allowed and what isn't though, the editor just sends the completed script to Sega licensing and they'll send back some notes. The real issue is Ian unprofessionally mouths off about what he is and isn't allowed to do on his podcast, and frankly misrepresents Sega to the point where I'm surprised they haven't fired him. There's lots of examples, but "Sonic can't cry" and "Shadow is completely cold and humorless" are some big ones. Sonic does cry in Scrapnik Island and Shadow does do some funny stuff in the TSR comic. The real issue is Ian and Evan want to write the characters like their Archie counterparts, but that's not what Sega wants so they keep having to change things. If they weren't working at cross-purposes with Sega they'd be able to do a lot more with the characters. Frankly they're both burnt out and need to work on some non-Sonic stuff for a while.
>>455465 >>455466 I kinda wish this wasn't the case. I would love to see Jewel more. And showing the Resistance do more shit would make it feel less inept. If Whisper was allowed to get more victories under her belt, for example, the image some fans have of her would improve.
Watched the stats again and our thread gets 3 posts a minute, which is twice the rate of the next two threads (death battles and murder drones). This is also the fastest time of the day for 4/co/ so not only are we the most popular reoccurring thread, but we're literally the most popular thread of the entire day.
>>455476 This and Building a Family (that's the Sally and Antoine comic by the artist that did the Sonamy edit of Mobius 25/30 Years Later) are a couple comics I'm not in a rush to post. >>455478 >>455493 Shit dads. Hot wives. Cool kids. >>455480 >tags: sonamy, shadamy >>455486 Thanks! >>455489 >It really is, and I don't even blame the so-called mandates. All of the non Evan and Ian stories have been fun and compelling. Scrapnik Island and that Team Sonic Racing comic were a lot of fun and felt very in-character Sucks to see them lose their spark and can't seem to write a good story or likable characters anymore. >>455494 IDW needs its own Ian to come in and whip things into shape. That is, if IDW had time for that. >>455496 We get a lot of engagement from each anon while most threads gets a few posts from a smaller number of theirs.
Ahhhh!!! I'm starting to fall for knuckles x julie and now want to see it in conductors comic to see more of a cute but hopefully distinct pairing that doesnt just feel like a sonally rehash!! AHhhhhh!!
>>455497 >Thanks! No worries! >Sucks to see them lose their spark and can't seem to write a good story or likable characters anymore. Yeah, I genuinely feel bad for them but they're not going to get out of this rut if they keep spending all their time on Sonic. Honestly, the comics being canceled would be a good excuse for them to try working on other things for a while >IDW needs its own Ian to come in and whip things into shape. That is, if IDW had time for that. 100% this. There's a heap of potential there that Ian and Evan refuse to explore (bringing back Gayduck, exploring Surge and Kit's backstories, etc) >We get a lot of engagement from each anon while most threads gets a few posts from a smaller number of theirs. We rarely break 40 IPs whereas the IDW threads get 80-100, but our anons make more posts each. Interestingly the Death Battles threads have a similar number of IPs to us whereas the Murder Drones threads are closer to IDW threads' numbers. We also have a huge number of lurkers. I'm still getting over 2,000 daily visitors to the website and I doubt most lurkers regularly visit it
https://www.deviantart.com/gearhedgehog2005 A new Sonic adjacent comic! Featuring an OC! That's a hedgehog! >>455501 Getting to do that is becoming more and more a possibility. And yes, they are a cute couple. >>455502 >100% this. There's a heap of potential there that Ian and Evan refuse to explore (bringing back Gayduck, exploring Surge and Kit's backstories, etc) It's a shame because I doubt Evan has anything better to do so she won't step away or let someone other than Ian write stuff for the main series alongside her.
Sonic and the Freedom Fighters Note Gerald Video Log “If those damn furries have a goddess, then why can’t humans have one of our own?” To think that those words came out of my son’s mouth. We Robotniks have a tendency to devote our genius to one goal. He dedicated his work to creating this goddess for the humans. A being capable of protecting and providing for us. What a fool he was. And what did it cost him? Years of his life, then his very life, and soon… the life of his only daughter. Maria… I will do what I can to rectify my son’s mistake. I will find a way to save your life.
A mobian can become more powerful if they learn to better harness chaos energy. Some have powers that are fueled by chaos energy so it’s possible to enhance their abilites. It’s all about finding a source of energy and absorbing it. The effects are usually temporary but it’s possible to keep some of it, if only just a little. Chaos magic users are those able to gather this energy better than anyone else and use it in nearly limitless ways. If they’re strong enough, they could be something like a living chaos emerald.
>>455499 >Seriously, it should be a crime to ruin two good ships at the same time but that one does just that. Vid related! >>455503 >A new Sonic adjacent comic! Featuring an OC! That's a hedgehog! Oh boy! >It's a shame because I doubt Evan has anything better to do so she won't step away or let someone other than Ian write stuff for the main series alongside her. Yeah, that's the main issue. Evan's never going to take a break from her "dream job," even if it's clearly having a negative effect on both her and the comic >>455504 Love where this is going >>455505 Eh. Ultimately she's just another character that isn't Rough or Tumble >>455506 It's his son that said that
>>455506 >>455507 >>455508 >>455509 Yes the video logs will be covered in the comics eventually but these are like the beat for beat journey Gerald takes and will better inform the changes that have been made to him. Spoiler: It's suffering from start to finish. >>455510 Just another botched execution of something with potential.
>>455505 >Plastic expression when smiling Unless they're coding her to be neurodivergent that just makes me believe they genuinely intended for her to be a twist villain of some sort.
>>455515 I'm heavily biased, but I always enjoyed the Knuckles comics more than the regular series. All the intrigue and "mature" themes really resonated with me as a kid. >>455516 It's such a strange choice. Having her be a villain would be cool though, really give the lesbians something to cry about! >>455519 They're a bad egg
I don't know what to think about it. On one hand, it's clearly stolen art, on the other hand, it's stolen from one of those youtube channel who mass produce cheap-ass animation for view chasing, so it's basically a victimless crime.
Then again, maybe IT IS the artist who make those thumbnail and I am then stuck again of what to think of that person...
>>455504 >“If those damn furries have a goddess, then why can’t humans have one of our own?” >What a fool he was. And what did it cost him? Years of his life, then his very life, and soon… the life of his only daughter. Maria… And this is how Maria became an hedgehog...
So I've been wanting to update the comic entries on the website for a while now but I just won't be able to anytime soon. I was wondering if anyone else would like to fill some of them in. I'd create a Google forms thing that you wouldn't have to sign into to fill them out so it'd be pretty easy >>455525 Absolutely horrifying. If anyone at YouTube had a shred of morality, none of these would see the light of day
>>455497 >This and Building a Family (that's the Sally and Antoine comic by the artist that did the Sonamy edit of Mobius 25/30 Years Later) I wonder if he is friend with Mojo1985.
>>455532 I'll storytime all of the Birdstone but I'm not that much of a masochist! >>455533 lmao, great minds think alike! But evidently not so alike that the image hashes line up >>455535 It's such a pity. I'd be mostly fine with it if he wasn't trying to fit an entire novel's worth of text into each page
>>455536 >lmao, great minds think alike! But evidently not so alike that the image hashes line up Yours is better. I kneel to your slightly more readable text for Nicole.
>>455537 The secret is to click on the image to expand it and then save it so you get a less compressed jpeg. I also turn the noise reduction up to maximum and save at 95% quality over the usual 90% most jpegs use. Fun fact: I also run all the digital Archie comics through a round of noise reduction since those are horribly compressed too
>>455538 I did that. It's the same as the image size listed on DA. I just didn't do any noise reduction like you did. It's normally not that big of a difference but with stuff like Nicole's text it does need more cleaning up.
>>455539 The one I downloaded was 462kb whereas the default's 128kb (because DA's a garbage website). Highly recommend the noise reduction though, it's specifically trained on jpeg compression artifacts
>>455532 Decided to read it (it's up on grabber.zone) and it was more bland storytelling with nice art. Also, the resolution for Rough and Tumble's story was mega-dumb. It was nice to see them again though >>455542 >Excellent upscaling work, by the way. Made me almost wonder if this wasn't an OG file. Thanks! After working through all of Archie's 15,000+ ;_; images I've got a workflow I'm pretty happy with >I'll confess I am 100% there for it, so there must be an audience for it. I actually enjoyed all the politics and drama in Archie, but so much of this text could be cut. It honestly feels like this would work better in the Light Novel format
>>455543 >I actually enjoyed all the politics and drama in Archie, but so much of this text could be cut. It honestly feels like this would work better in the Light Novel format Reminder that it's basically a dozen of page establishing the setting out of a body of work that has already more than 250 pages that already had quite the big focus on action.
The main issue is more about the hiatus between each updates. I think once it will be read as a whole chapter proper, it will flow far better.
>>455559 It's good to know that three toes is the Archie standard since Manak drew them from the very beginning. There are some inconsistencies. We haven't even gotten to the infamous Sonic and Tails page yet.
>>455565 To be honest, does Archie even have notable artists? The only one I can name is Gisèle Lagacé and mostly because she's a porn webcomic artist. The Archie TMNT books had like three artists at most too.
>>455570 Technically, Shock and Awe is an fancomic rewrite of Archie Sonic. also, ASO and Retold have also rewritten some bits of the Archie comics too.
>>455568 It would be huge. Bunnie and Antoine had a decently sized wedding. Sonic and Sally wouldn't push for anything big but everyone else would and nobodies going to miss out on it. The real question is how to handle Eggman (assuming he's still alive).
>>455580 "Those two rodents are getting married?! Isn't that just swell... NOT! Operation "Turn the happiest day of Sonic and Sally's lives into their worst" AGO!
But for real, yeah I can see that happening and Eggman going all out to make Sonic miserable for his sick enjoyment.
>>455583 I can see Archie Sonic zipping by and giving Eggman an invitation if he promises to play nice. There'd have to be some concession to get him to agree and even then it's a flip of the coin if he keeps his word.
>>455585 I wonder if there is some hardcore sonic fans among the Japanese who are still waiting for SoJ to bring Tania, Paulie, Brenda, as well as delinquent Miles back...
>>455587 It's weird to say but while being more evil, Eggman is more likely to not go back on his word compared to Robotnik, even if the chance is 1% less likely. Robotnik is cartoon evil and Eggman is childish evil. Give Eggman a good enough reason and he'll hold off until another time. Then again he could unleash some super evil scheme on them.
>>455583 >>455580 >>455568 >Such a lovely occasion and you don't invite, moi?! I'm so disappointed! >Smash Cut to a running, beaten up Eggman as Nigel leads the charge of Sonic's various friends >CHARLTON!! YOU COME TO RUIN MY DAUGHTER'S MOST WONDERFUL DAY?! YOU THREATENED HER HORNED LOVED ONE?! COME AND FACE ME, COWARD SO THAT I MAY PRESENT HER A GIFT WORTHY: YOUR HEAD!!!! >My Father in law is kinda awesome. And terrifying. >Please, you should see him when he watches the Mobotropolis Monarchs
>>455600 Oh god, I didn’t realize that was Rich. LMAO I think rich is a total faggot who’s an embarrassment to other Archie fans BUT I kinda agree with the sally old thing as I’m not a fan of it either. But rich has to be a fag when posting his opinion on that lol
>>455601 People using the Pendering, that is pretty much the worst event to have happened in the franchise, specially in the comics, as an excuse to rewrite Sally and Nicole's characters is pretty funny to me.
Because reading early Archie now I notice that this is exactly what Penders himself did. To write Sallly with total disregard to her actual character for selfish reasons. And same is what I feel both towards Penders and people who do this stuff.
>>455544 Yeah, it's interesting how different a comic reads once the entire issue's out. I figure things will flow better then. >>455549 I'm just glad they didn't nuke our thread since there was another Sonic thread already up >>455551 They're so majestic! >>455554 Nice! >>455564 lmao >>455598 I could tell it was Richmunk after the 3rd sentence. Dude's been a salty bitch longer than most fans have been alive. It's been mostly erased from the internet, but he's the one that kicked up the fuss about Sonic's eyes being green in Sonic 4. It's actually what got him kicked off of Retro iirc
You know, while I'm not totally saying people couldnt have problems with sally, but, its kinda seems to me a lot of it stems from how terribly she gets being treated by writers like ken. You know what I also dont get why people will excuse other characters being bad as just bad writing but when it comes to the ffs, they dont get that?
>fluro jacket, shoes and fingerless gloves >crop top, booty shorts and spiked writbands >Rough's default posture is at Tumble's crotch height So it turns out I was right about Rough and Tumble, they were even more gay in their original design.
>>455490 >Maybe I should clarify: Sega (like every company) have requirements on how their characters should look and act. Except it's not about "looks" here. The guys behind Boom explicitly stated that Big and the Chaotix (sans Vector for some reason) came with a laundry list of hard mandates behind their use, to the point they just didn't give a shit to fight for having them in the show. And they were explicitly told "no, Shadow is not allowed to be humorous" - which is why he's so out of place in the show's comedic tone with how tryhard he is. He's better in Prime, but he's still a total fucking angry retard. Likewise, they LITERALLY anret allowed to explore the Sol Dimension or Silver's future, which doesn't fucking make sense as a "requirement" and nobody sane would argue that a company should be LIMITING what expansions can be made for concepts they'll never ever come back to.
Ian IS acting unprofessionally, there is no question about that - but multiple people who have no association with him have clarified that Sega just slaps on arbitrary limitations for what you can or cannot do that cripple what you can actually create with the setting. All companies have requirements, but that's a very different thing from "you cannot use this character in X situation because he is effectively a meat automaton and does not have friends or emotions".
>Sonic does cry in Scrapnik Island That's explicitly not him, though. That's his connection with Mecha Sonic allowing the latter to cry with him as a proxy. Sure, you can argue it still counts but to soulless suits, that might make all the difference.
>and Shadow does do some funny stuff in the TSR comic According to the Boom and Prime writers, Shadow is only allowed to be 'funny' if he's not intentionally played for laughs and is treated completely no-bullshit seriously and only to contrast with other characters. That fits with his TSR depiction. I think the only exception to Shadow being treated as a totally serious asshole all the time are the Twitter Takeovers, and those are run by SoA, who are far more lax with the characters and setting.
Since people were asking, here's the link to the two megas I use for the comics, artist archives, and Archie. They're in base64, but you can convert them at https://www.base64decode.org
>>455610 I volunteer! >>455611 I kinda want to try drawing them in their final versions but with the slutty outfits >>455615 I am thinking of upscaling all the Fleetway comics... >>455617 I'll respond in more detail later, but I mostly agree
>>455490 >>455617 I'll also add that the guys behind the movies have said that Sega of Japan tried to mess with things or insist that certain elements take precedence, and whilst they obviously couldn't directly enforce them because they gave Paramount complete control, they were very strongly suggested. IIRC, that's the reason why they couldn't have the Master Emerald itself be inherently powerful - it HAD to be a fusion of all seven chaos emeralds at Sega's insistence. Which lines up very well with Ian claiming that Sega has said that the Master Emerald has no powers.
These are also the same people who insisted on Two Worlds and until very, very recently, adamantly refused to let anything but the bare minimum bridge the Classic/Modern divide they've arbitrarily enforced. I'm not giving them the benefit of the doubt on anything when even in Archie when they started taking more and more notice of the comic, they NEVER went full retard like they've done with IDW.
Ian is salty and completely burnt out, and Evan to a lesser degree, but there's obviously some bullshit going on with Sega too. All companies may have requirements for their characters, but I have never heard of a company that isn't suicidal insisting "you cannot show Mobians using or having money in any media, they have no economy".
>question: why do you make their muzzles grey sometimes? it looks really cool but how'd you get the idea?
>Basically I realized I’m gonna have to color these guys a million times so I gave everybody a second, limited palette of only four colors >Silver and Tikal are the most noticeable, and I never did it for the robots. I only show their true colors like once a page Now know! Now!
>>455617 I've probably missed a few things but this post is already too long >Except it's not about "looks" here. I agree about that, it was just the easiest example I could think of. Even Archie had to rewrite things and had entire stories rejected by Sega. >Boom Yeah, this was Sega being unreasonable. They were happy with the main characters being written differently to their game personalities, but weirdly difficult about everyone else. Apparently Big had even more restrictions than Shadow. It's seriously dumb because it's a SoL comedy so the characters need to act differently for it to work. >Shadow He's always going to be a difficult one since he's Iizuka's favorite, but I honestly believe the biggest issue is most writers don't get his character (and Sega isn't good enough at explaining it). Shadow can be funny, but it's a very specific form of humor. In Heroes, he has his "date to DIE for" line and in Prime he incredulously breaks the forth wall to correct Sonic about his "air shoes." He also smirks and steals a chao's popcorn in the TSR animation, turning him slightly darker. I hate to constantly shit on Ian, but he simply can't write Shadow, at least not the way Sega want, and neither could the Boom writers. Frankly, Ian can only write Archie Sonic, and still doesn't get game Sonic at all >Sol Dimension, Silver's future My guess is it's a mix of Sega wanting things vague in case they want to use these settings and not getting a story pitch they like. I'm guessing Ian's mentioned these things but I honestly don't believe a word he says on until it's confirmed by Sega. He's been wrong too many times >but multiple people who have no association with him have clarified that Sega just slaps on arbitrary limitations I definitely think they do this, I just think most of the time when Ian's saying it, he's misrepresenting things. I've seen too many instances of him saying something's not allowed, only for some other writer to get away with it because they kept things in character >Sonic does cry in Scrapnik Island Yeah, that was me being a bit cheeky, but it does show how game Sonic handles emotions. He's comfortable feeling those emotions and even physically crying, it's just not how he personally expresses himself. This Sonic wouldn't cry in most (any?) circumstances because he'd either leap into action (e.g., when Eggman drowned all those people in Station Square) or grieve through honoring their memory (e.g., Shadow's death in SA2) >>455619 >Master Emerald I'm actually gonna side with Sega on this one, in that the Master Emerald shouldn't have regular chaos powers. It's supposed to be a massive energy source that can make an island float and power machines, but its main purpose is nullifying the Chaos Emeralds. FWIW I thought having the ME be a fusion of the CE was a cool idea though, and I really like that interpretation for the movies at least >Two Worlds This is one where I think Ian fucked up. He misinterpreted what Iizuka said in an interview and has been acting like he had some sort of insider knowledge. Here's Iizuka's (translated) quote: We have two different worlds for Sonic games – one is human, and one is set on the non-human side. Sonic Colours is set on the non-human side. Japanese is more vague than English, but even in the translation they're using worlds, not planets. Worlds here clearly mean societies or locations (like world 1-1 in Mario), otherwise they wouldn't be talking about them sharing two sides. No one in the games has ever freaked out about anthros, and Amy used to live with them in Station Square. Putting on my catty bitch hat, I think they made that Tailstube so that they wouldn't have to directly correct Ian after he started mouthing off about it on Twitter >Money They clearly have an economy, but Sega doesn't want it to be a focus. Tails pays Vector money to investigate in TSR, we see money several times in Boom, and we've been able to use rings to buy stuff since SA1. My guess is they don't want awkward questions on how Sonic gets money (does he get a salary for fighting Eggman, or reward money, or mooch off Tails, or ...?) or where he stores it (he's only got one pocket and that's nature's pocket).
>>455638 NTA >Frankly, Ian can only write Archie Sonic, and still doesn't get game Sonic at all
Agreed, you can see this leak into Frontiers Sonic (and not to be that person but it's even more evident when you compare it to the JP version), but when I said this people instantly assumed I hated Ian, I don't, all I said is that the guy doesn't understand Gamenic and is constantly using Archienic as a cruch. Anyway I personally agree with what you're saying anon.
>>455642 I honestly dont get what you guys mean by that shit as it kinda sounds like nitpicking. Sonic is a still a guy who loves adventure who helps people when written by him. I really dont get the problem
>>455642 Thanks! Yeah, he writes a great Archienic but that's not what Sega wants for IDW so we end up with this weird approximation of the two that comes across as a complete psycho. After reading the Encyclo-speed-ia it became clear to me that Ian knows very little about the games. I get that he's an Archie Sonic fan, but for him to not get game Sonic's core characterization of "What you see is what you get. I'm just a guy who loves adventure. I'm Sonic the Hedgehog!" is just unprofessional. Agreed about the Frontiers thing, although I think everyone is pretty much in character. Of course, I suspect that was mostly Kishimoto and Ootsu (the other writers) picking up the slack. Fun fact: both of them worked on the story of Black Knight with Maekawa, and that was easily the game with the best characterization >>455644 NTA, but IDW Sonic as written by Evan and Ian completely goes against his game characterization, which is what Sega wants. The way he lorded over Surge in #50 with his smug philosophy was frankly disgusting. Game Sonic would never do that, and neither would Archie Sonic
Honestly to be clear, I think Ian writes Sonic just fine and think its a fruitless effort in trying to appease nitpickers because he will never meet the imaginary super specific criteria people have in their heads for the characters.
>>455624 >Also, I think I'll start removing the jpeg compression from these since the full resolution isn't available It kinda is, actually. I use Firefox and when I have clicked two time on the image on DA to be its maximum size, I right click to it, select "open image in a new tab") the jpg open, then that image in that new tab in question somehow refresh on its own and, I don't know one, become the original png file (I suspect dark magic is at play). Here it is, if you don't believe me.
Anyway, we get to see that robo-Sonic has an actual name, 93 and that he has also received Sonic's current state of mind. Also, TP, you forgot to remove your ladder last time you came visiting.
>>455625 He knew what he was getting into when he was created for a sole purpose with zero agency on his part...
>>455645 >although I think everyone is pretty much in character Oh yeah definitely, just small things like Tail's speech about his incompetence amongst others, show don't tell!
Black Knight truly was the peak >I don't mind playing the bad guy I really did love it even if the gameplay was off It's why I personally like Frenzynic, he doesn't give a single fuck on his adventure, schizophrenia and all.
>>455646 I just skimmed through Frontiers script and didn't catch Sonic moralizing >>455647 I don't hate the guy, and would argue he's probably the best at writing Archie Sonic and does a good job at Boom Sonic too. I just don't think he does Game Sonic justice >>455648 Huh. That is a much better version, although still not the original. It should be 4961x7016px and 5.56 MB. DA is so frustrating! >Also, TP, you forgot to remove your ladder last time you came visiting. Whoops!
>>455649 >I don't mind playing the bad guy As much as people suck this shitty games dick, this I dont get when he literally saved the day as always and did nothing evil. It's all talk and thats why its shit.
>>455651 No one is saying this game isn't shit it has it's flaws, I'm talking about characterization here. He was evil in Merlina's eyes anon, taking away her perfect world from her. >it's shit because it just is ok?!? If this game is shit I wonder what 06 is then kek
>>455649 >Oh yeah definitely, just small things like Tail's speech about his incompetence amongst others, show don't tell! Yeah, it was mostly stuff like that. I was fine with them spelling things out this time so everyone's clear where the characters are at >Black Knight truly was the peak 100% this. The gameplay needed way more work, but the story was so good I didn't care >It's why I personally like Frenzynic, he doesn't give a single fuck on his adventure, schizophrenia and all. I've seen some people argue that Gamenic wouldn't be interesting enough for a long-form story like a comic but Frenzynic shows just how well it can work >>455651 Merlina viewed him as the villain, trying to take away her unending perfect, yet sterile world. Sonic was saying he doesn't mind how others view him, he's still going to do what he thinks is right. Sonic's obviously a hero, bit it's an important part of his character that he genuinely doesn't see himself as one. He doesn't save the day because it's the right thing to do, he does it because not acting on injustice doesn't cross his mind. That, and he loves adventure
>>455655 yet Sonic never does anything bad so it means fucking nothing and just talk from an overrated ass story. And if Eggman did that shit, literally no one would ever even think about grey mortality from him.
>>455657 Sonic obviously isn't bad, but he's acknowledging Merlina's point of view. From Merlina's (and maybe others') perspective he took away the immortality of every person in Camelot and ended their everlasting paradise. Sure, it was perpetual stagnation, but maybe some of the people were happy with that
Guys! Sonic is actually the bad guy!!! He keeps stopping this sexy man's perfect world of harnessing dark energies for a forever one where he rules!!!!
>>455660 From our perspective it would be, but from Merlina's everyone would be safe from harm forever. Not all that different from Archie/SatAM Robotnik's plans really, although I'd much rather be with Merlina!
I'll chime-in on the debate to bring this one point: I know people tend to say that the adaptation of SA1 burned Archie to the point they refused to do it again, but I think one of the thing Ian enjoy and is actually good at is Precisely adapt the games, we could already see it pre-reboot and clearly see it afterward.
I think it can be fair to say that sega not allowing Ian to adapt any games clearly impair his writing. I'd actually love to see what he would do if he was allowed to adapt Frontiers in IDW.
>>455666 Well, she is the hottest lady from the games! >>455668 And it's not cheating because it's the same character! Merlina's Elise's storybook counterpart, and we all know Merlina's clearly Maria. The original ultimate lifeform/Sonic is a one woman hedgehog!
>>455664 >>455662 >>455661 >TFW Lien-Da being the Top Grandmaster has to tard wrangle the Egg Army on a semi-regular basis >She is sometimes empted to let Ivo blow her up via her cybernetics.
>>455673 I've got their account archived at least >>455674 Cute! >>455675 Yeah, that was absolutely horrifying >>455676 Fun fact: I've got those usenet posts archived and have been planning on converting it to the same format as the archived threads >>455690 Of course. I wouldn't just mpreg Sonic and run!
Ian's letters are a little hard to read, so here's it transcribed. From #103:
Dear Justin, Alright, alright. So I couldn't stay away. Too many memories. SONIC #100 starts off with the core freedom Fighters striking a pose with the covers of the past 99 regular series issues in the background. Not as flashy as S#25's silver or S#50'S gold borders, but still nifty. Starting with the Sonic story, Ron Lim does a decent job this time around. His portrayal of Cheddermund's demise on page 1, the moment of silence for Sally on page 7, and the down-right creepy end of Nate Morgan on page 17 are all excellent bits. You an see bits and pieces of Fry and Spaz (more of the former) here and there throughout the story. Sally looks odd for the entire story (more vulpine than ground squirrel) and Rotor's head is just plain wrong. But all things considered, Mr. Lim got the job done looking good, and best of all, it conveyed the sense of the story very well. As someone who was critical of Rn Lim in the past, that's high praise. As for the story, I must be honest. I was fairly dreading #100. Boy was I happily surprised. I found myself getting excited as the story unfolded. I wanted to know what was going tho happen to whom, and I was totally taken off-guard when Sally FWAAASHHed Kodos. The dialogue tripped a little here and there, but all-in-all, it took me back to the glory days. This issue was a far cry better than recent months, especially with a number of plot lines tied up. Moving along to the Knuckles segment, Mr. Penders does a decent job throughout the book. There is no particular rise or drop in quality. To be honest, I haven't been his biggest fan when it comes to Furry art. But he can draw humans far better than I, so I have no room to talk. Considering how he was first drawn, Mecha-Dimitri is on-model and with enough insane detail to satisfy me. The only qualms I really have are Green-Knuckles's bony knees, Tobor's eyes on page 8, and Commissar's proportions on page 3. I don't know what bugs me about her on page 3, she just does. Regardless of those few points, the quality is consistent and it gets the story across. This chapter is a big turning point in the life of our favorite Guardian, and it's done in a quick, compact, neat little story. I came away from this feeling like something had been accomplished. The only thing that really bugged me was Green-Knuckles and Julie-Su's hug on page 5. They're on the bridge of an enemy craft. Kommissar has already made it quite clear she has an itchy trigger-finger and her sights set on her half-sister. Mecha-Dimitri is obviously using the ex-DLer to play Green-Knuckles like a harp, and yet they're allowed to hug and exchange terms of endearment. I just can't see it that way. Then again, with Mecha-Dimitri wanting to play Green-Knuckles to his favor, maybe showering him with gifts (Su, the FI-inhabitants) was his plan all along. I don't know. I just don't know. In any event, Ill be checking out the next issue. IAN POTTO
>I had to condense your letter for reasons of space, Ian, but I trust the salient points came through. You were far from alone in your praise of SONIC #100, as the neat writer will testify.
Dear Sonic Team, After thumbing through SONIC #101, 1 can understand why some fans don't like Knuckles' reason for working with Dimitri. Some seem to think that Tobor didn't exhibit hatred. Some hatred isn't visible or even conscious. This is specially true if the hatred has been passed down from generation to generation. Knuckles, coming into his power, probably sensed this deep, underlying feeling in Tobor and in himself, was disgusted and wanted to change that feeling. Plenty of my friends have commented that they didn't like how Dimitri first said that Knuckles could change any time and then later how he only had two chances left. While this may seem contradictory, it is a brilliant plan by Dimitri, who probably realized that he couldn't control Knuckles from the outset and took into account Knuckles' hotheaded, do-it-yourself ways and let him do as he felt necessary. Thus when Knuckles failed, he would come straight back to Grand-uncle Dimitri and ask for what points in time he could change. Dimitri could then pick what events would change and rule the world. Finally, Dawn Best. Nice work. She is definitely a talented artist. Her drawings helped covey the words instead of just standing there saying things totally unrelated to their body language. What I saw was brilliant. It is also good to see that dreams can come true in this cynical world where dreams are often forgotten, misplaced, or destroyed. Thank you. IAN POTTO
>We think Dawn's work is wonderful, and so did a lot of other readers as well, as evidenced from the following comments.
>>455645 I don't entirely hate IDW Sonic, but it's definitely surreal people defended that arc so hard, when he basically just comes across as a hollier-than-thou libertarian that's completely incapable of approaching the subject of freedom with any nuance.
Like, if someone in real life tried to discuss politics with me like that I'd tell them to shut up, because it's absolutely leading up to some "corporations need LESS regulations!" or some "CP isn't THAT bad!" shit, know what I mean?
>>455706 Butler you madman! >>455707 I have literally all of it archived, I just haven't put it on the mega since they're both full. Maybe I should start uploading things to the Internet Archive >>455708 Yeah, it's easily the lowlight for me. The fact that it was five (5) fucking paragraphs of smug condescension only made it worse. Thing is, Gamenic would've been totally fine with a fight, so all the justification was totally unnecessary. They could've just written something like Sonic and Shadow's fight in the jungle of Prison Island in SA2
>>455712 Yeah, the non-Geoffrey parts tend to drag on a bit. I kid, I kid. Oh, and if you're reading on the website, make sure to use the [expand all] option for maximum binge-reading
>>455397 The Heart of a Monster 8-10 https://thoam.the-comic.org/comics/322 I believe Omega's been infected with what the zoomers call "rizz" >I'd be fine if you just stopped being so annoying Oh Shadow, that'll never happen
I get this every once in a while when posting on /co/. I don't know what's up with it but it's tied to captcha. I tried looking it up and got no results. I'm too paranoid to say what I think.
>>455715 It sure is! I'm very "down with it" and "hip" >>455716 That's an odd one. Sometimes (more like several times a day) mine fucks up with different errors. Oh, and if you kbf filling out captchas, here's what I've been using for about a year now: https://git.coom.tech/araragi/JKCS It's not 100% accurate, but it's got a much higher success rate than I do ;_; If you don't have a static IP, then it could be that some other customer of your ISP has been naughty and you're getting a vicarious spanking. I know there's a guy with my ISP that's caused me to get a few warnings from /fit/ of all places. >>455717 Oh shit, I have gotten that one after all!
>>455690 >>455615 question, do you browse with javascript off or do you auto delete cookies or close browser sessions some other way? I'm seeing some weird patterns with your posts.
>>455686 >What other old sonic sites you remember? Speaking of which. Did anyone here have accounts on the old sonic research forums? A51, SSRG, Cult, etc? What usernames did you go by?
>>455720 >Speaking of which. Did anyone here have accounts on the old sonic research forums? A51, SSRG, Cult, etc? What usernames did you go by? Afraid not, although I did enjoy lurking some of them. I vaguely remember Cult being fun to read
Too scared to say over there to not get yelled at by the schizo, but do you guys think Tails and Cream will have any notable dialogue together for the new game? Because I kinda agree with that guy in the part of their non existent relationship with each other. Like I think they’ll obviously be friendly but I don’t really know what to expect beyond that. What do you guys think? How should they act together in your opinion
>>455730 Even if they interact it'll be the most generic non-romantic thing. Just like virtually any pair of characters aside from Sonic and Amy and even then it's just enough to keep the shippers happy without doing anything meaningful because Sega doesn't want any actual romance.
>>455730 You are mistaking the tree for the forest. The actual state of thing is that, in games, almost no characters talk to each other aside form talking to sonic. Tails and Cream not talking to each other is only one aspect of that situation.
It's not entierely unjustifiable: when a game has Sonic as the only/main playable character, of course most interaction will be withe the playable protagonist.
It doesn't have that we haven't had an Adventure-kind of of Sonic game in a while.
>>455725 Yup. I knew it from the second he called Archie "archieshit". That and him sperging out over Tails and Cream having their models for Dream Team placed next to each other, even trying to gaslight against the fact that Tails' model was obviously updated for the new game.
>>455638 >we see money several times in Boom, In fairness, Sega never cared about Boom and we know that you can get away with anything when Sega doesn't care.
>>455713 >use the [expand all] option Is that a plugin option? Can I do that on desu? >>455716 I sometimes get it not just on /co/ and I sometimes get messed up ones too. Over the past few years I've found most websites just don't load properly anymore and I don't know why.
This panel will inevitably bring up a ton of controversy when we get to it. I'll say that I kinda agree with Sonic here. He shouldn't be a king. I love Sonally but I don't agree with King Sonic, but I've warmed up to consort Sonic and feel that would've been way more better. He'd do the things he would wanna do while being there. looking to see if youll have it that way conductor since i know youll probably make them marry at some point in your comic
>>455768 You’ve caught me, but i just agree with what other anons were saying with him being a consort. That’s what he should be if it wasn’t penders writing anyway
>>455723 Found it! Their OC's pretty cute https://twitter.com/moraysupreme >>455727 >Yes but they're helping fill the threads. You could almost say he's helping us without financial compensation! >>455740 lmao, I have archieshit as a wordfilter >>455743 It's kinda weird, they were fine letting them do pretty much whatever in season 2, but were really restrictive on non-core Sega characters >>455744 I'm just saying that Kishimoto and Ootsu probably contributed to the English script since Black Knight was essentially perfect characterization and Ian still doesn't get Gamenic. Apparently the Japanese one was really awful and weird but I've never read the translations >>455746 >Over the past few years I've found most websites just don't load properly anymore and I don't know why. That's because most of the Internet's behind Cloudflare. If it decides you're not worthy for whatever arbitrary reason you just won't get consistent access >>455747 Maybe I should make that more obvious >>455748 >And my drawings that are in the banner sometimes! Thanks for letting me use them!
>>455761 >not using the gross and weird sidemouth That'd get you a paddlin' at IDW! >>455769 >i just agree with what other anons were saying with him being a consort lmao, that was probably me. Yeah, he would be a royal consort/prince. The only way he'd get to rule is if he was already royalty and they were merging their two kingdoms
>>455767 King Sonic could work if people were less... rigid? What's the proper word here?
There is such a thing as leaders that are constantly on the move, not content with merely sitting on the throne or equivalent thereof and instead going out into the open, interacting with their subjects and/or being at the frontlines of war and exploration. King Sonic, IMO, would work as that.
>>455781 Yeah, I'm a big fan of using less common animals to make Mobians. Shame most of the art of him's lewd, I'd have liked to have posted more. The bone sticking out was weirdly gross but fun
>>455782 Honestly, what's this thread if not for posting the lewder Sonic stuff? Good on the artist for drawing his cute trans twink OC topping the closest the franchise has to the Fat Bastard trope. Browsed his account and he seems alright, too. Eggfuckers are some of the chillest people in the fandom, probably because they're in a constant state of post-nut clarity.
>>455783 Fair enough, I just didn't want to clog the thread up with stuff I figure most wouldn't be into. The OC twink's super cute, and confident too! Yeah, being an offshoot of Bara, Eggfuckers really do seem to be chill >probably because they're in a constant state of post-nut clarity. lmao
>>455784 Wew! Eggfuckers really are the chillest tho. They're a small group and usually keep to themselves without causing much trouble for anyone else. This girl right here LOVES eggman and has a lot of art of him lol.
>>455785 Her stuff's great! Love that she doesn't even bother with a Mobian OC and just straight up ships herself with Eggman. Of course my favorite Eggman simp will always be vanessacoelho868587 >>>/coq/418729 >>455786 I'd make IDW my favorite Sonic comic if they'd went with these designs. It honestly suits IDWnic's personality more and I still maintain he's been Scourge in disguise the entire time
>>455635 Sonic Now Page 144 https://theartpal.tumblr.com I saw how mad Vanilla was in that last issue of IDW Sonic before it put me to sleep. I know how scary she can be! Now!
>>455792 >zet-prehension lmao >before it put me to sleep I'm literally only reading for Rough and Tumble and they didn't even rhyme this issue ;_; I'm also reading to see how many plots about fires they'll let Evan do. Let's hope Sega's headquarters have been fireproofed before they cancel IDW!
>>455793 I wish she actually did something other than look scary. >>455794 I've just been underwhelmed by everything. It's like a boring version of those early random Archie stories that Gallagher did before Penders came in. No puns, no crazy villains, no bullshit powers.
>>455795 Pretty much same. They're never gonna do anything interesting. can't even let characters make exagerrated expressions anymore so the stories wont be any different. Just boring shit.
>>455795 >>455796 Yeah, it's pretty much Gallagher without the charm, excitement or fun. There's this "shat out the night before the deadline" newspaper strip feel to it. It'd almost be worth it if we got a story that's just Sonic filling out his tax returns. Reading that Knuckles story alongside Penders' autism-kino was a real eyeopener.
>>455798 >Sonic filling out his tax returns. Gallagher would have some IRSbot chasing Sonic all over for money he doesn't have. And then Nicole digs into Robotnik's tax history and finds that he owes the IRS even more money and the robot goes after him and explodes or something. And then Sally says something to Sonic and he replies by winking and making one last pun. The end.
is there a bigger meme about archie than telling me to ignore everything and start with 160? There's no denying there is bad but theres plenty of fun stories. we're almost to the 70s and while there are rocky bumps along the road, i'd say thats its still mostly enjoyable.
