>>140455308
Don't get hooked on these WORDS!

>>140455308
>Question: If you could be on any team from any continuity, which would it be?
Either the Freedom Fighters or Secret Freedom Fighters. They seem pretty fun to hang around with after their missions are complete

>>140455317
ENTER HARRY THE CAB DRIVER
A pretty cool bloke that will wish he wasn't.

>>140455308
>Question
Preferbly none so I dont die on the field

>>140455336
Quite the start to this arc!
>>140455333
>Secret Freedom Fighters
Mmmmmm... the twins...
>>140455338
Smart.

>>140455308
>Someone’s happy to see the two-tailed fox!
Ian's gonna freak but don't let that distract you from the fact that Gabrie took a joke that Penders and some other dude made to have Tails marry Mina and have two kids of different ages with her in one timeline and Ian couldn't overturn that.

>>140455364
He knows he's not getting paid for this. What a guy!

>>140455308
>Question
STC Chaotix because I want to emulate the mental asylum experience

>>140455371
Well, better Mina than Amy like Penders expected.

>>140455364
>pender has a character call out the hypocrisy
Whaaaaaaatt?! Also, are like the dingoes and echidnas just co existing

>>140455364
Harry telling it like it is.

>>140455386
Sorry Harry, you don't get to leave.
>>140455371
Ian eternally seethes at having to deal with that fox's love life.

>>140455336
>>140455364
>Decides not to follow Stryker
>Acknowledges that the Echidnas are hypocrites
Harry has only been here two pages and he's already the smartest, most relatable character in this comic.

>>140455336
>Harry
Ohhhh, this poor bastard

>>140455407
I'm pretty sure Charmy told everyone about his size changing power. Also, RIP.
>>140455393
I hope you'll be nice to that Charmy.
>>140455399
A lot of his characters seem to be surprisingly more self aware than the guy writing them.

>>140455371
>>140455407
Can we honestly blame ian for avoiding tails love life and hate shipping for him seeing how tailsfans are?

>>140455431
Just a typical shipment. Nothing sus about this.
>>140455405
>>140455412
>>140455422
Harry's suffering only makes him more likable.

>>140455431
Harry is a good guy.

>>140455431
>The Suffering Begins
Oh Joy!

>>140455451
Here's your drug and prostitute dealer, bro.

>>140455431
... Charmy was supposed to be micro sized this whole time? The art has never really conveyed that.

>A lot of his characters seem to be surprisingly more self aware than the guy writing them.
I find this happens sometimes with writers. It's like their subconscious leaks out on occasion.

>>140455477
>mighty: can you get a hold of julie-su, vector?
>vector: sure, i'll get right on that
>>140455455
And he just wants to drive people around and not deal with any shit. But he does.

>>140455433
In all honesty, I don't blame him. But this topic is already a dead horse and we haven't even seen Barby again yet (much less Everything Else that comes later).

>>140455477
>Downtown Ebony Hare
This dude is someone Luke Cage would've thumped back in the day with Iron Fist

>>140455500
Poor Mellow. Those goggles look pretty cool.
>>140455456
Everyone gets some suffering. Some more than others.
>>140455499
It's been brought up a couple times in his earliest appearances.

>>140455364
>echidnas can say what they want about echidnaopolis

oh penders...

>>140455477
Oh what fresh hell.

>>140455433
Believe it or not, some of us Tailsfans are pretty reasonable and okay to interact with.

Granted there's also a lot of us who are batshit insane and we don't like to associate with them. But when I'm in a Rails mood at least I don't try to keep them both on level plains.

>>140455524
I guess you could say that he mellowed out!

>>140455545
This drug sounds pretty tasty!

>>140455545
>I guess you could say that he mellowed out!
BOOOOO!

>>140455500
No seriously, what the actual fuck is Vector's problem? Julie-Su hasn't done anything to deserve this constant hostility.

>>140455558
>Lemon Sundrop Dandelion
With all the subtlety of a giant hammer over the reader's head.

>>140455558
Look at all those happy eKIDnas!

>>140455558
>LSD
Goddammit, Penders!!

>>140455545
>>140455566

>>140455558
If you shorten the name it becomes... lsd...

>>140455570
>someone has to pick up the slack
Yeah. Everyone's been doing that except you.
>>140455566
I'm here all week! Because The Ride never ends!

>>140455570
>Chuckie and Angelica echidnas
horrifying. The Chuckie one doesn't even have glasses!

>>140455568
I mean, to be fair, she will in the future.

>>140455477
>Scrier watching Traveler watching Kaine again

>>140455589
Oh no, it's the gay thoughts! Gotta run away!

>>140455364
Harry is based

>>140455589
Locke's just a couch potato.
He's addicted to watching people.

>>140455433
But Ian never avoided Tails "love life", just the positive aspects of it.
He went to write some of the most terrible interactions between Tails and Fiona, that are frequently posted by people who want to shit on Archie Sonic as a whole.

>>140455308
>Question
The Echidna Security Team!>>140455364
lmao, here it is!

Fun fact: The first Archie Sonic story I ever read.

>>140455614
This is your last chance, Harry. You can get out of this story and never look back.

>>140455589
Locke, you ass, the boy had to clean up another mess while dealing with your wayward tribe! Who, remember, you could've helped?!

>>140455630
I'm so sorry.

>>140455407
Vector you've got a scary mouth there

So, question on something I probably speedread through. Why do Echidnas still use technology? Didn't they eschew that? If not, what happened to those of them that did?

>>140455631
This is the start of an unintended ship. Julie-Su and Vector.

I heard this story was terrible but I’m really liking the premise. Is it really that bad or over exaggerating because of the drug overdose

>>140455407
Plap plap it's Remmy!
>>140455412
He's one of my favorites

>>140455655
If only Charmy was paying attention.

>>140455655
>This is the start of an unintended ship. Julie-Su and Vector.
I remember that being talked about a lot during last ride lol

>>140455660
Just brace for disappointment if you haven't already.

>>140455630
How old were you? Must have been a special moment depending.

>>140455665
>>140455412
Harry for Mayor of Echindaoplis!

>>140455477
so is.....Ebony Hare meant to be racially insensitive?

>>140455667
If Sonic was in this story, he'd be dead.
>>140455650
They stopped after a while. Too hard to give up VCRs.

Anyone else feel like the comic just got a dozen times more 90s?

>>140455607
Speaking of, it really is uncanny how the ongoing narrative resembles the Clone Saga. Granted, it's not nearly as shit as that trainwreck, but still.

>>140455568
he likes Shade more

>>140455691
Big guy!

>>140455691
What's Sally's mom doing with Ebony Hare?

>copacetic
I have never once in my life heard anybody use this word unironically.

>>140455691
>Somewhere both Uncle Chuck & Sonic feel a disturbance in the Chili Force, pissing them off.

>>140455702
I still think the Clone Saga had more good than bad, at least when reading it now where you don't have to juggle four ongoings to keep up

The juxtaposition of "Buy Sonic comics!" and someone dying of drug overdose is funnier than it should be.

>>140455714
The Chaotix got some of that good shit! Julie-Su's missing out!

>140455714
Claiming Blackjack!

>>140455732
>>140455714
>Blackjack
What about the hookers?

>>140455731
Next issue: We take a journey to the center of Charmy's mind.

>>140455732
>>140455714
Oops

>>140455760
Spoiler:No we don't.

>>140455431
>normal size
lmao
>>140455451
Cute muscular sleeveless dingo here
>>140455500
You tell 'em Remmy!
>>140455681
He deserves it for all the nonsense he has to deal with!

>>140455714
>Big guy!
For you

>>140455760
It's weird how Knuckles is the B plot of this arc.

>>140455667
>>140455691
>Charmy's friend dies after visiting the park
>Charmy is unsure if his friend actually ate any of the food
>Rather than er on the side of caution, they decide the food MUST be on the level.
Also given what Penders said about his Knuckles pitches, part of me wonders if this was a reworked Sonic story pitch or if the food is chilidogs because "lmao it's (technically) a Sonic comic."

>>140455759
Blackjack is the hooker.

>>140455731
You'd think Espio would know better, being a ninja and all

>>140455673
what'd they talk about in regards to it last thread? not a pair i've ever seen

>>140455714
>>140455731
>>140455760
Remember that time the Chaotix got high?

>>140455778
Beware of WORDS overdose!

>>140455785
This was way before Sonic Heroes, Espio wasn't a ninja before that happened.

>>140455731
lmao, and now they're all on durgs! How the fuck did Sega approve this?

>>140455759
In fact, forgot Happyland AND the Blackjack!

>>140455797
>archie charmy is a prince
>fleetway charmy is a prince
Hm.

>>140455789
Hatesex.

>>140455804
He always was in Japan, not that Penders would know or care.

>>140455778
Remmy's butt made the cover!

>>140455806
Sega literally wasn't paying attention to what Archie was doing during this period.

>>140455814
I DON'T WANNA BE A PRINCE!
Not the only character to act like this.

>>140455814
And neither get any respect from anybody outside of their bee kingdoms.

>>140455714
snoot woman spotted

>>140455789
Julie-su and Vector just had this constant back and forth banter that only stopped around Ian's run where they finally make up
so yea Hatesex is the answer

>>140455830
Holy fuck, who drew that? Penders?

>>140455830
Alright, I want off of Mr. Charmy's Wild Ride.

>>140455806
That's easy They didn't care what the comics were doing at this time.
>>140455815
>He always was in Japan
He wasn't. He was a private investigator with an interest in the ancient civilizations.
When the Chaotix got rebooted into being private investigators in general, Espio got Ninja elements as part of his new personality.

>>140455815
ah hatesex is fun sex

>>140455849
That butler bee is giving me creepy vibes.

>>140455412
I know it's been stated before but it's weird how many of Penders' side characters are more likable than the ones he pushes or writes.

>Harry is a grizzled taxi driver with a heart of gold who gets caught up in business he wants no interest in, and acknowledges the nonsense of the dingos and the echidnas.
>Wynmacher is a friendly and normal guy who genuinely loves Lara-Le and is openly warm and welcoming towards Knuckles despite him not being his blood son
>Remington is a tough but fair cop who sees the good in most people and wants to protect the city
>Quack is a snappy but smart doctor who plays off against Max's rambling prophetic nonsense.

>>140455849
Chaotix beefed it too much.

>>140455814
It's crazy how in different media, Sonic, Charmy & Amy are of royal/noble blood.

>>140455826
>>140455856
You'd think they'd make sore their own characters weren't taking drugs at least
>>140455830
>spoiler
Kinda weird Sally and Charmy never interacted much
>>140455840
Boop that snoot!
>>140455874
Remmy's butt!

>>140455871
>Wynmacher is a friendly and normal guy who genuinely loves Lara-Le and is openly warm and welcoming towards Knuckles despite him not being his blood son

And yet the fact he was literally both dressed like Darth Vader and gave the stinkiest of stink-eyes while Knuckles was explaining their history genuinly gave me the impression Wynmacher was not to be trusted. But of course nothing came of that.

>>140455874
With the Chaotix drugged out of their minds, Remington joins the case.

>>140455849
Jeeper's may be one of the weirder looking characters here

>>140455908
Another big guy!

>>140455874
Antibiotics to treat LSD overdose? What the fuck ?

>>140455908
He's so handsome bros
>Remington joins the case.
Oh boy! Sheriously though, I always loved seeing Julie-Su and Remington team up

>>140455920
One punch! One punch!

>>140455614
>Dad didn't raise no fool!
>Well, technically he didn't raise me at all, but the point still stands

>>140455939
ENTER SAFFRON
But it's spelled Safron this time. Poor girl.

Fuck it claiming Ebony too. He's got a great design.

>>140455939
Ripper is the ultimate jobber, dude exists to lose

>>140455938
>I always loved seeing Julie-Su and Remington team up
Isn't Remington like, Julie-Su's half-nephew or something? I know the big secret they teased us with for forever was that he was, at least I think, Kragok's son, and Kragok was Julie-Su's half-brother.

>>140455959
Don't diss her, Charmy, she's your future tard wrangler.

>>140455959

Cheer up girl, at least he isn't braindead.

>>140455959
Fun fact: Charmy's not the only one that ran off to the Floating Island.

>>140455959
>Nudge
Boomer speak.

>>140455959
Saffron looks so much better later on in the series

>>140455981
And he meets Mighty first.

>>140456010
>mighty: i'm taking the bed and the nurse!

>>140455959
>"You and your stupid thoughtfulness can go to hell!"
This is why you are currently fucked up on LSD, Charlemagne. Douche.

>>140456026
Renfield is lucky nobody knows he worked with Robotnik.

>>140456026
A yellow Echidna feels wrong.

>>140455920
Absolutely shredded
>>140455959
>Girls! Nothing but trouble!
Maybe you should hang out with Tails then!
>spoiler
Yeah ;_;
>>140455969
>spoiler
Yeah he is, although he's older due to twilight zone time dilation. FYI Remington's 27
>>140455986
Yeah, Penders' is pretty hip

>>140455714
>Happy Happy Joy Joy

This implies Ren and Stimpy are canon in the Sonic world. In fact, Ren and Stimpy may be actually Mobians.

>>140456051
Those kids taking drugs!

>>140455981
Y'know, stuff like this make the Archie Chatoix, a family of destiny. Not by blood but by experience and the bullshit they go through.

>>140456053
well you've gotta have some mustard along with all the ketchup

>>140456075
And they call themselves winners.

I think Ebony Hare is based on Blackrabbit, a rule34 artist from the late 90's. He created Zig Zag, an anthro skunk pornstar that appears in the webcomic Sabrina Online.

>>140456075
Uh oh! It's a bunch of burly boys on bikes!

>>140455981
Saffron was, in fact, trying to ask him how he felt about this. And he told her to piss off lest she get her cooties on him.

>>140456086
>I think Ebony Hare is based on Blackrabbit

I severely doubt that.

>>140456051
How convenient that the Chaotix are tripping balls and Knuckles is gone so nobody recognizes him.

>>140456090
Looks like he was inspired by that time Enerjak was spinning him around on the moon.

>>140456092
>16
>believes n cooties

>>140455961
Sold, but you'll have to get to him before he gets arrested!
>>140456026
>mighty: i'm taking the bed and the nurse!
Swoon!
>>140456051
He's an inspector too!
>>140456086
Looks like I've got some research to do!
>>140456090
>Uh oh! It's a bunch of burly boys on bikes!
In hindsight, this comic really did a number on me

>>140456109
Did we get to the microwave reveal yet?

>>140456086
I somehow doubt that Penders was even aware of furries to have based him on that of all things

>>140456026
Mighty fucked that Night Shift Nurse.

>>140456109
>vector's mouth and tongue
I can see that awakening something in a poor kid.
>>140456055
>Yeah ;_;
So much suffering to go around.

>>140456075
So how come only a few people got sick from eating the sauce?

Why did Charmy's friend in particular die from it?

>>140455614
Speaking of gay thoughts: >>140456090

>>140456109
How does he know what a China shop is? There is no China on Mobius (anymore).

>>140456133
Stryker in a coat!
>>140456106
And it kind of makes sense that there's not a report on the incident since that happened way before Echidnaopolis came back.

I’m actually liking Julie su and Remington a lot. Wtf guys.

>>140455903
Yeah, you would think it's all an act but he genuinely is just the normal dad to Locke's bullshit. He's just a really good guy.

Besides, wouldn't you give someone a stink eye if you heard all that echidna history nonsense?

>>140456158
You won't if you stick with the comic.

>>140456109
>such raw, naked power
Uh...
>>140456125
That's issue #25, so 10 Knuckles issues after tonight.

>>140456109
lmao, Locke didn't tell the council of secret grandpas about the microwaving
>>140456125
Not yet!
>>140456133
>So much suffering to go around.
It wouldn't be Archie without it!
>>140456136
Because he's much smaller I think
>>140456139
lmao
>>140456157
>Stryker in a coat!
Off to do his evening flashing no doubt!

>>140456157
Harry's in too deep. He can't get out now. Might as well make some money while he's at it.
>>140456136
Renfield upped the dose on some batches and Charmy and Mellow probably get the worst reaction since they're bees.

>>140456133
The nurse is not paid enough to deal with this shit.

>>140456181
How often are you going to see a drug deal set up in a Sonic comic?

>>140456158
I'm extremely biased, but they're a lot of fun since they're not Penders' favorites
>>140456181
>Remmy bending over
Plap fucking plap!

>>140456090
You'd think the Brotherhood would be concerned with the ASSHOLES FILLING THEIR CITY WITH DEADLY DRUGS

>>140456195
Wait a second! The criminals are supposed to be the ones that get busted!

>>140456157
>The coat
>The gloves
>The attitude
Perfect

>>140455308
Oh these issues. Penders was about as subtle as an 18-wheeler

>>140456206
If it doesn't involve Chaos Energy or their past history coming back to bite them in the ass, not their problem.

I think anyway. The purple one gets pissy about something Sonic and Tails did, or something, I forget.

>>140456195
I have no idea what Ebony said

>>140456214
Penders sure loves dropping women from high places.
>>140456175
>Uh...
PHRASING!
>>140456180
>secret grandpas
I can't believe they haven't been introduced yet.

>>140456195
>bee-jay
This comic man, this comic
>>140456215
Striker's such a stylish hottie

>>140456237
I'm not taking responsibility so let's wrap this shit up.
>>140456215
It's a great look for him.

>>140456157
Stryker looks like an extra from SWATKats

>>140456256

Bees...my god...

>>140456256
Friends don't let friends read all these WORDS!
>>140456225
His heart was in the right place. But not his brain.

>>140456237
LOL

>>140456214
I like to read Ebony's voice like a white guy trying to sound like a stereotypical black guy from a 70s movie.

>>140456271
So, this is the version of the page in the reprint for this comic. However, the original version (which I will post next) was a bit more graphic.

>>140456232
>Bee-Jay, what's upsetting you? A lady? Looking to deal drugs?
>You keep her occupied until I arrive! Drive quickly Blackjack, I want to meet whoever wants to join our narcotics operation before we're ready!
I guess Penders was just too down with the street talk for you!
>>140456237
>Penders sure loves dropping women from high places.
The Brotherhood Special!
>I can't believe they haven't been introduced yet.
Yeah, at this point we've only seen three of them

>>140456157
Based Harry sandbagging Stryker's bullshit.

>>140456206
But then they'd actually have to do things, and that's not really what the Brotherhood is about.

>>140456292
Ow! Poor Charmy!

>>140456292
What the hell are they doing surgery for ?

>>140456278
I hear something that feels like a mix of Charlie Adler's performances as Buster Bunny and Chicken from Cow&Chicken coming out of him.

>>140456292
>>140456313
Of course Penders would rip off M*A*S*H in a surgery scene.

>>140456313
Maybe Blackjack also thinks he's throwing Snively from the roof.
>>140456307
>The Brotherhood Special!
Penders and tossing people from high places is like George Lucas and people getting their hands cut off.

>>140456292
>>140456313
Reprints giving them more than red was a good idea

>>140456313
Charmy's blood is purple?

>>140456313
oh wow poor Charmy

>>140456315
Yeah I want to know too, I don't claim to know drugs or how they work, but I'm not sure why Charmy's undergoing surgery to fix whatever the fuck is going on with him.

>>140456334
Robot shoes? She has normal feet as we'll see in the future issues.

>>140456313
Once again, we see that scans are superior.

>>140456308
>>140456229
>>140456195
>Hawking tries to get an LSD Chili Dog to end his suffering once & for all
>Locke makes him some veggie burgers to keep him steady

>>140456354
Bimmy missed out on a potential threesome.
>>140456323
Who else but Penders?!

>>140456237
Speaking of the fucking Clone Saga! Okay, now it's not a coincidence anymore. I'm calling you out on this, Ken.

>>140456356
>Perhaps being high will simulate the sweet release of death...

>>140456370
Harry is resigned to his fate. He's not getting out of this role. Ever.

>>140456370
>Bimmy
Where's Jimmy? The Double Dragons would've solved this problem by now!

>>140456376
Can you give some explanation on what he’s using from it? NEver read it

>>140456387
I'm curious if you know what happens to Harry in the future, because it's legitimately not pretty.

>>140456257
Man, that show was absolutely filled with hotties
>>140456313
This comic really is something else
>>140456323
Yeah, it's not just soap operas and sci-fi with him!
>>140456334
>Penders and tossing people from high places is like George Lucas and people getting their hands cut off.
I'm starting to think it's a fetish at this point
>>140456342
Having it purple means they could get away with showing it
>>140456354
>Robot shoes?
They're just regular high-tech shoes with a holster. Fortunately she can take them off!
>>140456376
At least he was still reading comics at this point!
>>140456387
So strong and handsome!

>>140456387
Channel Deez Nuts!

>>140456405
Go Chaotix go!
>>140456402
IIRC he's still a cabby in the Light Mobius issues by Penders.

>>140456424
Was that really necessary, Remington?
>>140456388
Jimmy lost in the head to head fight at the end of the game.

>>140456424
>Vector can use his Walkman to pick up police signals.
That's actually pretty damn slick.

>>140455407
>guy who looks like Charmy gets hurt
>everybody shows up to make sure Charmy's okay
Archie Charmy... had some good friends.

>>140456435
I feel bad for Ebony Hare. He's trying to peddle drugs and nobody is listening to him.

>>140455308
These covers always confused me.
>Oh his goggles are broken and he's on the ground, he got attacked or bludgeoned? What's this all about?
>Oh it was drugs

>>140456459
At least Harry's smart enough to be packing. Standard for all cabbies.
>>140456404
>I'm starting to think it's a fetish at this point
Imagining both getting a chubby from including that stuff is not something I want to think about.

>>140456391
Women, usually love interests, being thrown off tall structure, usually a bridge, is a well worn Spider-Man cliche that truly became overused during the Clone Saga. Genuinely surprised Knuckles wasn't here to angst about how he can't fail Gwen again.

>>140456475
How does Ebony Hare compare to IDW's Clutch?

>>140456424
>spoiler
Yeah, and he looks mega dejected
>>140456435
Really love seeing these two hang out
>Was that really necessary, Remington?
Of course!
>>140456459
>I feel bad for Ebony Hare. He's trying to peddle drugs and nobody is listening to him.
It's hard to find good help these days
>>140456475
>Imagining both getting a chubby from including that stuff is not something I want to think about.
So gross ;_;

>>140456490
Yeah I noticed the similarity, including the Chaotix being involved.

>>140456490
Ebony is better because he doesn’t have a vomit inducing design

>>140456490
I want to edit Julie-Su in the last panel holding a towel over the side of her head.

>>140456490
Other than the fact they're both gangsters? Not a whole lot.

>>140456490
Kick his ass Remmy!
>How does Ebony Hare compare to IDW's Clutch?
Clutch is way more experienced, and there's way more porn of him

>>140456490
>>140456475
>Harry has a piece
>Ebony has a motherfucking Magnum
Angel Island plays for keeps, huh.

>>140456503
That's one down!

>>140456519
Blackjack meets Mighty. And then meets a bunch of boxes.

>>140456534
Again, why is Sally's mom here?

>>140456475
Chemical Plant?

>>140456534
And Vector gets the girl.

>>140456490
>How does Ebony Hare compare to IDW's Clutch?
I legit keep forgetting Clutch's name, and that's when I remember he exists at all. At least Hare is ridiculous enough to be somewhat memorable.

>>140456518
>Entire city is littered with dingos part of a facist military movement
>There's a gaggle of techno-freaks who worship a centuries-old grampa possessed by a demon
>There is an active drug operation marketing LSD to kids
>The Brotherhood don't do shit about any of this and obsess over prophecies and fever dreams

Everyone on the island is as strapped as a slow kid in a car seat

>>140456490
Ebony and Clutch are both alright as street level crime villains, but both pale utterly to Eel Capone

>>140456546
This is Renfield's last appearance, isn't it?

>>140456546
What's so special about what he did? A big whirlwind attack? Sonic says hi. Now that portal is something.
>>140456537
You joke but...

>>140455308
Okay this is one of the reasons why Archie Sonic is my favorite continuity.

Penders sucks but there's his bad writing and then his *meme writing*. This issue in particular is such a chaotic story and so out no where that it's funny af. What's even funnier is when everyone who starts reading this comics gets to this issue and they all collectively say "what the fuck am I reading here". And I was one of those people. This is part of the peak Archie experience.

10/10 one of the better Penders stories simply because it's such a meme

>>140456573
No. He comes back much later in a one-shot when Eggman contracts him to make new Auto-Automatons using rigged slot machines.

>>140456576
>You joke but...

I know what you're getting at but I'm not talking about that, that is literally just Sally/Sally's mom but with a tail. As a little kid I was so confused when I read the comic, not that I wasn't just plain confused already from... everything.

>>140456537
Ha! She actually is on the island
>>140456546
Just arrest him Remmy!
>>140456570
lmao
>>140456576
>Now that portal is something.
To be fair, he does have that guiding star gem

>>140456576
Are you saying that Knuckles is getting jacked? Enerjacked?

>>140456546
Vector is gonna give her a lesson in crocodile anatomy and mating

>>140456602
Would've been nice to come back home under better circumstances.

>>140456490
>>140456503
>>140456519
Ebony could probably get parole if he joins the Freedom Fighters.

>>140456612
Here lies, Mellow. He lived the same issue he died.
>>140456594
There are some Sally lookalikes through this series. Of course they're all hotties.

>>140456601
mark my words I'll get some comm some art of Eel Capone in the future

>>140456626
>Ebony Hare
>Jack Rabbit
>Beauregard Rabbot

Lot of bad bunnies in this continuity, huh.

>>140456633
It's time for Charmy to become a MAN!

>>140456586
It's completely insane, but still a genuinely interesting and compelling story
>>140456633
F
>>140456634
Oh man, that'd be awesome!

>>140456651
A funeral and a celebration! Yay!

>>140456576
And as always, Locke contributed absolutely nothing. Some Guardian, can't even be arsed to pay attention to the drug smuggling operation. It never stops being mirthfully funny how the Brotherhood keeps actively refusing to do anything, ever.

>>140456626
>Criminals who go on dangerous missions against the Eggman Empire and the such to lessen their sentences
Are you say there should be some sort of Squad for this?

>>140456651
>It's not forever, Charmy! Who knows what the future will bring!
Heh... heh...

>>140456667
>gets written out the comic until RtAI
bye charmy

>>140456667
And with that we go over to Sonic for an issue.

>>140456651
And then later he becomes a boy again.

>>140456682
Are you serious?

>>140456659
would just have to figure his design, I'd probably make him a moray cause they're the best Eel but would he have arms or just be really big eel to compensate for no limbs?

>>140456667
And all it took was him getting high on LSD.

>>140456683
Hey, remember that time Tails went to Downunda?

>>140456670
who would be in such a hypothetical squad of a self-extinguishing sort?

Maybe my critical skills get worse when reading Knuckles comics but I didnt see much wrong and was pretty invested. I always like seeing more remmy and liked harry. But i will say the locke bits were pretty nothing. But guys help me, what were your problems with it so I can see them

>>140456690
He gets knocked out really hard and age regresses. And you won't believe who wrote that.

>>140456546
>I caught you, you're mine now fair and square

>>140456707
We also find out who Gallagher ships Tails with.

>>140456690
He makes a minor appearance much later, but for all intents and purposes, Charmy is gone until then
>>140456711
I guess it's generally not bad, so much as a "what the fuck am I reading" thing.
Though the Chaotix being stupid and getting themselves out of commission is definitely something.

>>140456669
They're really just there to creepily spy on everyone and gossip
>>140456691
I'd go either no arms, or or robot limbs
>>140456707
These covers are so cool
>Hey, remember that time Tails went to Downunda?
I'm sure he'll remind us either way!

>>140456720
I'll give that anon a hint. The writer is considered the LORE GOD of Sonic now.

>>140456726
>barby is already all over tails
LOL

>>140456667
So why does this story have a bad reputation? It was pretty good, honestly. Look, I'm happy to mock Penders all day, but we're still in the era where he was putting out material worth the reader's time.

>>140456726
>Highly acclaimed
Citation needed.

>>140456726
Christ, this art looks like crap.

>>140456744
Yes, let's have a recap!

>>140456744
Ian is feeling physically sick reading this.

>>140456766
Bill acting sus.

>>140456757
I think it has to do with people not actually reading anything of his and only hearing others takes on it

>>140456711
I genuinely enjoyed them, or at least I enjoyed all he parts where it wasn't just secret grandpas gossiping. There's definitely some dumb stuff, but it doesn't ruin the experience
>>140456744
>barby is already all over tails
In the words of another 'stralian: Clever girl!

>>140456766
I think Ian wrote in about Tails and Barby being just friends and Gallagher decided to throw subtlety to the wind.

>>140456786
Not cool, man!
>>140456757
Basically a kid's comic being about drugs and being handled in the typical Penders fashion. Not even a Knuckles Says segment at the end.

>>140456825
Get a bush, you two!
>>140456764
Are you implying that the editor is biased?

>>140456825
>Not even a Knuckles Says segment at the end.
We were robbed!

>>140456786
>Although we didn't recover our old enemy's entire body, we found enough pieces of him to assume he was gone for good.
Cockbot was, in fact, not gone for good.

>>140456237
Is Knuckles' glide not species standard?

>>140456846
Of course we have to have Sonic butt heads with someone.

>>140456846
Why she like tails so much?

>>140456866
I think it's time for a genocide! We can claim it as self defense.
>>140456823
Gallagher pushed the ship and then Ian not only pretended it was never the case but reveals Barby was in love with someone else.

>>140456878
...Do you not?

>>140456802
Ah. Once again people letting memes override fact. Shame that. I imagine it's also due to people being unable or unwilling to engage with a piece of media on its own terms. A crime procedural about LSD in a Sonic the Hedgehog comic is likely to sound absurd and disturbing to most, but if one can get the hell over themselves, there's a well put together story here.

>>140456846
>Get a bush, you two!
They're really going at it!
>>140456858
Just a guardian thing in Archie. I'm pretty sure others could too in Sonic Adventure

>>140456825
>Stu: BILL, YOU COOKED CUNT. KNEW YOU WAS FULL OF PORKIES!!

>>140456659
> It's completely insane, but still a genuinely interesting and compelling story

See, I don't even think that the general concept behind this story is even an insane one.

The Chaotix would totally bust a drug operation. It's just uh... well, ya know, Penders writing this but again this is some of the funniest shit he ever wrote because of how crazy the story was.

>>140456846
>>140456866
>>140456896
I think this artist has a chubby fetish.

>>140456896
That's a nice move, Tails. Have you tried using that in reverse?
>>140456878
Tails is a babe magnet. Thankfully he doesn't realize it so there are some women for the other guys to get with.

>>140455308
>Question: If you could be on any team from any continuity, which would it be?
The Chaotix. They're cool.

>>140456927
What do we have down there?

>>140456900
People dont wanna even read any attempt on reading any thing with penders (cant entirely blame them) but never want to fact check. Tho its not as bad as STC where the actual reading by people is abysmal.

>>140456896
I mean, I'd get it if Ian only read the Tails miniseries, but Tails' reactions here are pretty reciprocal and hard to read as just platonic.
And it's not like you can brush over this story either since it's the backbone for Bill getting involved with Eggman

Why are you guys starting to like Penders?

>>140456825
>>140456848
To be fair, it would've been a Julie-Su and Remington Say segment, since they were the focus characters.

>>140456846
in some more fair play, how old is Barby? Cause this is admittedly a bit concerning.

>>140456948
What a surprise, it's this guy again!
>>140456925
Walt is pretty squeezable.

>>140456878
She has good taste!
>>140456896
Sonic looks pregnant. So does Tails
>spoiler
What a dick
>>140456922
Yeah, it could totally work as a regular drug bust but it's filled with dead bees, graphic surgery and secret grandpas doing nothing. I still absolutely love it though

>>140456969
He hasn't gone completely-full retard yet, though that Image crossover he made already does not bode well.

>>140456978
>i sure would like to see her again
Well...
>>140456932
Which version? The answer decides your fate.

>>140456973
>how old is Barby?

12.

>>140456969
Credit where credit's due.
We haven't hit full Penders yet (though we're still getting there) and that story was zany enough that people are giving it a pass.
>>140456978
OK, when I made that joke earlier, I forgot that he actually showed up again in this issue.

>>140456996
EYES!

>>140456978
>Max gave Sonic actual official authority
Depending of which day of the week, that can either be brilliant or stupid on Max's part.

>>140456973
I don't know if her age was ever given. Neither wiki has an answer.

>>140456969
This is the one and only story from Penders I will fight tooth and nail on and I will die on that hill if necessary. Why? Because of it's insane execution and it just reads like a hilarious meme and an actual trip. The rest of his stuff I either hate or don't really care for as much, though some of his earlier knuckles comics were pretty alright.

Do I like Penders? No, LMAO. Learn to separate the work from the writer.

>>140457021
ENTER STEVEN BUTLER
Hot girl artist extraordinaire and fellow Sally enjoyer! Why oh why didn't he do the first story and got to draw Barby?!

>>140456996
Was walt jealous? i really didnt notice. Also lmao, this is seriously the story Ian seethed at? Why

>>140456969
I've always liked his stories, even if some are extremely flawed. I absolutely loathe the guy though
>>140456973
Yeah, that would've been fun
>>140456996
>Well...
Such a pity. It was nice seeing Tails in a drama-free crush. I don't hate the guy, but fuck Flynn for ruining that

>>140456978
>Downunda freedom fighters obeying a foreign king
The writers at Archie had some strange notion of royal authority.

>>140457042
You'd think they'd notice the Naugus shaped cloud swiping at them.
>>140457015
>OK, when I made that joke earlier, I forgot that he actually showed up again in this issue.
He just doesn't know when to quit.

>>140457042
>ENTER STEVEN BUTLER
A legit great artist on the comic who never gets any real appreication because of the memes. Actually sad.

>>140456996
>Aborigine
How do they know what that is?

Also, you just KNOW the bottom pane made Ian vomit.

>>140456978
Barby looking real mature here damn

>>140456978
This is the panel that made me get the hots for Barby. Why was she drawn so hot here?

>>140457042
whoa this page kinda goes super hard, Naugus looking pretty badass there

>>140457067
Never underestimate Sonic's pull out game.
>>140457030
As long as he's not anywhere near his daughter, Max doesn't give a fuck.
>>140457048
>this is seriously the story Ian seethed at? Why
Because Ian thinks of Tails as a kid and any kind of romance isn't necessary for him. With Barby looking much older he hates that ship even more.

>>140457061
> Such a pity. It was nice seeing Tails in a drama-free crush.

Age difference def would've caused it to be the opposite of drama-free. Totally would ship and adult Tails and Barby

>>140456996
Also, I forgot that Bill was just brainwashed during this issue though I guess the other Platypi still give him grief because reasons?
>>140457048
The joke about Ian seething is that he doesn't like Tails/Barby and finds it creepy, presumably due to Barby appearing to be significantly older than Tails (similar to how Fiona shoots down Tails' hopes later). While he never formally sank it like he promised to, he has said that it would never be a thing as long as he was on the book.

>>140457070
do people really only meme on him cause he draws woman actually looking nice?

>>140457089
>Never underestimate Sonic's pull out game.
lol
I can imagine its actually good and only failed when sally did a surpise leg lock

>>140457089
Poof!
>>140457061
>Such a pity. It was nice seeing Tails in a drama-free crush. I don't hate the guy, but fuck Flynn for ruining that
His pettiness was next level for this. I understand not adding to it but he went out of his way to reverse it and divert it.

>>140457042
>Sally enjoyer
Now there's an understatement! Dude must've triggered so many puberties with his Sally
>>140457048
He spent the entire issue arguing with Sonic. If anything, I'd say he was tsun for Sonic and who could blame him!
>>140457067
>You'd think they'd notice the Naugus shaped cloud swiping at them.
I'm guessing only we can see that the cloud looks like Naugus

>>140457105
> The joke about Ian seething is that he doesn't like Tails/Barby and finds it creepy, presumably due to Barby appearing to be significantly older than Tails (similar to how Fiona shoots down Tails' hopes later). While he never formally sank it like he promised to, he has said that it would never be a thing as long as he was on the book.

Yeah I give Ian a full pass on this decision because that's a pretty darn valid reason if you ask me.

>>140457113
And now a Geoffrey story to prepare his introduction to the Knuckles series.

>>140457108
Yes

>>140457108
It can't be helped, most of Sonic's fanbase is composed of Twitter subhumans.

>>140457127
Mawhinney Geoffrey is so fucking thicc.

>>140457128
wow people are cringe losers if they give him grief for that, either that or frumpsters as is usually the case

>>140457042
>Butler
Yeah, it's out boy Steve! he has finally arrived, and is ready to paint the walls of the studio white.

>>140457113
The villains in this comic job to easily. Lol.

>>140457042
>https://youtu.be/cMIe-_uj0Yc
>>140457061
>Implying it would've survived once Sega started paying attention to the comic, short of just never having Barby and Tails interact again.

>>140457112

Headcanon for how their first child was made.

>>140457105
Ian sounds very petty with anything with tails like goddamn

>>140457142
And away he goes!

>>140457142
Oh look, Max making yet another monumental mistake that will ruin lives.

>>140457128
Bruh what is wrong with people. Hope the dude made a nice career later on, he deserves it

>>140457165
Got himself a chameleon.
>>140457144
It's mostly about the proportions. Butler doesn't try to draw the characters with normal proportions. The good news is that he draws almost everyone hot.

>>140457165
There's unidentified flying object heading towards the Island. Maybe the Brotherhood should shoot it down!!

>>140457183
It's funny that Geoffrey gives Sonic shit for so long and recruits someone that has good hearing.

>>140457142
The Monarchy is cringe and it's not just because of Max but other past kings. King George's Folly anyone?

I wish that Sally had consistent writing earlier on because I totally see her actually rejecting her father's BS once and for all, and being the one to lead a change in government, instead of Tails' parents.

>>140457144
>>140457171
He did have some misses in the book, but he was a real good fucking artist. He does still draw.
>Bruh what is wrong with people.
Twitter tards and people not checking something out for reals

>>140457070
His art's great, but he's certainly most famous for his women. I don't really see anything wrong with that though
>>140457084
Most of the artists were pretty horny
>>140457087
Yeah, he does some great action scenes too
>>140457113
>His pettiness was next level for this. I understand not adding to it but he went out of his way to reverse it and divert it.
I can see why so many people take issue with him Frankly I have no idea how he hasn't been fired yet with how he's constantly mouthing off about Sega on his podcast

>>140457165
To assemble the Furry Avengers!

>>140457198
I know the DFF are hardcore but Stu, get out while you can!

>>140457199
Unfortunately that'd also be at odds with Sally's role as being Sonic's contrarian, so ironically that would still make her pretty inconsistent.

>>140457198
And we end with Geoffrey about to finish up his squad. Tomorrow at 7pm EST we'll do a couple Sonic issues and a Knuckles issue. Get ready for the Sand-Blasters and the Brotherhood!

>>140457155
Well their kids are twins so thats how they would come to be lol

>>140457214
> Most of the artists were pretty horny

I should note, I didn't really mean it as a complaint.

But it's a double-edged sword. Barby looks like a grown ass woman in general so when people talk about complaining about her and tails not being together I 100% side with Ian. I'm sorry but Tails is a little kid and Barby...

>>140457214
>I can see why so many people take issue with him Frankly I have no idea how he hasn't been fired yet with how he's constantly mouthing off about Sega on his podcast
If Sega had a problem then they'd tell him to stop instead of giving him more work to do outside of comics.

>>140457214
I suspect Sega either isn't aware of the Bumblekasts, or is aware of them but doesn't pay attention to them. Because if they did, he'd have been fired a long time ago, either for badmouthing them or divulging things between him and Sega that fans really have no business knowing.

>>140457198
>Age isn't the consideration here.
Penders on Sally and Geoffrey

>>140457240
Ah right! I forgot! Lol

Honestly that would be so sweet, Sonic about to pull out as usual just so that he doesn't risk Sally getting pregnant, only Sally to lock her legs and gives him permission to do it.

>>140457234
>Sand Blasters & The Brotherhood
Two groups that deserve the Twilight Cage!

Are we done then?

>>140457113
Well there you have it, that's our story, Naugus is dead.
Good night.

>>140457234
>Get ready for the Sand-Blasters and the Brotherhood!
Oh good, a double dose of douchebag.

Gotta say, the post-Robotnik era of the comic isn't as... messy as I assumed it would be. One would expect the book to be struggling for direction, but there actually seems to be a decent idea of where we're going with all this.

>>140457245
Tails isn't young like he normally is. He's 11-12 for most of this series and Barby should be around Sonic's age. So the gap is 3-5 years. For some that's too much. For others that's nice.

>>140457245
I remember hearing that Barby was not supposed to be much older than Tails, it's just that the artists just drew her busty as fuck. If Ian wanted to make it work he could've just asked them to make her look younger. You don't need to make everything crash and burn god damn it

>>140457258
God, that's hot but so fucking cute and romantical at the same time!

>>140457279
Yeah no, I don't agree.

It makes sense on paper, but in execution it's just all over the place. Nate Morgan was the last straw for me and I didn't pick the book back up again until Sonic Adventure happened.

>>140457253
To be fair, didn't Sega stop Lost Hedgehog Tales?

>>140457233
Just because she's contrarian in terms of character, doesn't mean that her ideology can't change.

Sally in general rejected what her father was trying to do, she just didn't fully defy him because writers prevented her from doing so.

Her idea was to lead her people in the best way that she could. At first, the crown was the way. But then she had doubts. And later on the Monarchy would be overthrown by the Republic of Acorn and Sally fully accepts it.

I don't see how Sally being the one to overthrow her father is out of character. If anything, its IN CHARACTER. Her actual defiance, being head-strong as a leader, and wanting to do what is right for the people is one of her best qualities (when the writing permits it, albeit), and had she had these said qualities fully realized earlier in the story, she would've led an government change and lock her crazy dad in an asylum or something.

>>140457198
I wonder why Penders singled out this random Gallagher character. Did he just really fucking like Wombat Stu?

>>140457234
Knuckles grams and stuff

>>140455477
This loser is why I can't take Clutch seriously in IDW. Crime bosses are nothing in the Sonicverse.

>>140457294
>I didn't pick the book back up again until Sonic Adventure happened.
Funny, the retcons they had to do to crowbar Adventure into the comics made me want to drop them.

>>140457337

>>140455959
Oh hey, the recoloring changed Saffron to be blonde like her later appearances.

>>140457358

>>140457338
I dunno, he's got muscle, a 'ho, he's putting the squeeze on other flim-flammers, and he's even got a kill count. For a one off Ebony has not done badly for himself.

>>140457337
lmao at that fanart on bottom right

>>140457343
> "IansTragedy.png"

Lmaooo

>>140457312
>didn't Sega stop Lost Hedgehog Tales?
You believe that ?

>>140457377

...>>140457042
has anyone claimed ugly bastard Naugus yet?

>>140457358
>We're in 1998
Games in 98
>Metal Gear Solid
>Metal Slug 2
>Street Fighter Alpha 3
>Parasite Eve
>Zelda OoT
>King of Fighters '98

1998 was a good year.

>>140457387
They didn't? Because I would lovecto hear an alternative to why Ian stopped like a bitch.

I didn't get Tailsfags until now when it comes to barby. Like it's pretty cute, she loves him because Tails is a legit great guy and Tails thinking the same of her but always a bit nervious since she's a big gal. Really goodset up for a ship to be builded upon. Like wtf is ians problem. It was cute!

>>140457482
That cartoon animal is under the human age of consent you monster!

>>140457290
I'm not sure if anywhere stated Barby's age.
Unless somebody on staff clarified it, Ian would probably be going off of the art and, well, if Barby was meant to be close to Tails' age, the art doesn't make that clear.
>>140457312
Unless he mentioned it in a Bumblekast, Ian never directly said what caused him to stop Lost Hedgehog Tales, just saying for the reasons "some personal, all private" (though "part" of it was due to the ongoing lawsuit between Penders and Archie. Another reason he gave back in 2017 was the possibility of IDW resurrecting the Archie continuity (both reboot and possibly pre-boot) though he also acknowledged that it is far from guaranteed and he wants to be certain that that possibility is dead (alongside mentioning the then-recent possibility of an appeal in the suit and more vague issues that made him hesitant).

>>140457312
Ha! Seriously though, he's just holding it over Archie fans because he thinks he'll be able to use some of it someday
>>140457343
>that filename
Absolute perfection, bravo!
>>140457358
I see someone else is a Remy fan too!
>>140457371
Yeah, it's one of the few things I like about the recolors

>>140457482
Pretty sure that's the same logic Rails is built on, but with more teasing.

>>140457042
Weird to think that the sexy furry lady man from Archie is the same guy that designed Scarlet Spider

>>140457539
Just imagine the red bits are Kaine's skin and put big anime pupils in the eyespots and you've got a new Sonic character tbqh

>>140457531
I actually prefer barby only a bit older and not too old like with the rails shippers

>>140457459
I can only guess its because of what >>140457496 said.
But thats still a better excuse than thinking Sega would care about him releasing a script from a cancelled comic. Dude could have released it as a "fanfic" if that was an issue.

>>140457482
It's seriously cute
>>140457490
Thing is, they're about the same age so it isn't even that weird
>>140457539
Huh. I had no idea

>>140457539
And to think what he does post-Archie is start his own not-Sally comic.

>>140457539
Tom Lyle actually designed it

>>140457438
Also this gem came out in 1998. Just, uh, remember the character select screen.

>>140457578
Really? Even though gamefags find RougexTails and SonicxAmy 100% kosher?

>>140457568
Exactly. The half-life 3 script got leaked as a "fanfic" and no one got the Brotherhood Special over it. I think the simplest answer is he just doesn't want to release it
>>140457578
So cute!
>>140457589
I wonder if it was ever released online. Would be nice to storytime it

>>140457589
Hahaha, definitely Archie-inspired. I wonder if this is actually any good. Can't be as bad as what Penders is still trying and failing to cook up.

>>140457578
why so?

>>140457617

As a fleetway fan, I already deal with people not fully bothering with something and only listening to common online takes. but man, the memes steven has been given over the years has had tons of people just pushing any of his sonic work aside and call him totally bad. It actually makes me mad.

>>140457620
> I wonder if it was ever released online. Would be nice to storytime it

Some bad news so far, can't really seem to find anything on it other than there was a kickstarter for it like 3 years ago, and all backers supposedly received a digital copy. But other than that, everything went dead about the series right after that, even on his YT channel.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/warrior-women-2020/fianna-mccool-and-the-hound-of-ulster

https://www.youtube.com/@stevenbutlerstudios5385/videos

Gonna keep on digging and I will report back to you guys

>>140457571
>Thing is, they're about the same age so it isn't even that weird
Is she though? A quick google search doesn't turn up much, unless it was in a Sonicgrams that people ignored.
In a delightfully ironic twist, Geoffrey doesn't seem to have a set age either, though the age gap between him and Sally is more explicit due to flashbacks.

>>140457720
Update: Looks like backers actually received a physical copy of along with a digital copy with other items such as stickers, trading cards, post card, etc depending on the dono tier. Surely it must be out there online somewhere.

Steven Butler is a coomer and earned the reputation he got with his own artwork. Sorry, Butlerbros.

>>140457711
Yeah, it's frustrating hearing StC Super being called Fleetway because most people only know him from Friday Night Funkin'. There's so many bad takes about that comic due to Sonictubers it's maddening.
I had no idea people actually hated Butler's work. It's genuinely good, and he stays way more on-model for Sonic than most Archie artists. He definitely likes drawing sexy women, but if anything that should be a complement
>>140457720
Thanks for looking, and good luck!
>>140457767
In the earlier issues she's around Tails' height, but it's all pretty vague when it comes to anthros. Remington's canonically 27 but most would assume he's around Knuckles' age

>>140457838
> Being good at drawing hot women makes someone a coomer

Okay redditard

>lost hedgehog tales
Ugh... Dont remind me... Ian not releasing it even after these years is pretty shitty. LIke cmon, the book is dead and has been for years...
GIVE ME SOME FUCKING CLOSURE FOR GODS SAKE STOP TEARING MY SOUL LIKE THIS IAN

>>140457879

He decided he might use some of the ideas in IDW instead.

>>140457872
Yes, if that's the only thing your artstyle can do.

>>140457838
I get he drew sexy, not denying that, but people never wanna give his art in general the time of say otherwise. He's usually really good.
>>140457867
brits comic aint perfect but stuff like that does bother the hell out of me. But yeah he's good, man.

>>140457491
>Ian would probably be going off of the art and, well, if Barby was meant to be close to Tails' age, the art doesn't make that clear.
Which is never a good thing when it comes to early Archie. We're both in this ride anon so it shouldn't be hard to see that the characters will go through metamorphosis depending on who's the artist on the current issue. The same thing happened with Sally and Bunnie; they both go from looking like cartoon animals to suddenly supermodels, ESPECIALLY when compared to the male characters. The same thing shortly happens to Amy for 1 issue during the Sonic Adventure arc and she is supposed to be 12. What I'm saying is that Ian could've easily given Barby an official age or asked the artists to draw her younger or preferably both. It's not like her age would've ever been a major plot point. I don't understand why he'd immediately send in the nukes when there were better ways to deal with it, I ain't even a Tailsfag I just think the whole situation is really dumb and the alternative being the Fiona cucknic love triangle was awful, granted he didn't start that one either but he absolutely didn't make it better too

>>140457952
Personally, Butler's art looks to stiff and plastic-like to me.

>>140457938
Probably... but he really has no fucking excuse to not post any unused plans at this point. Its actually frustrating.

>>140457867
Yeah, height's vague.
It's especially weird in Barby's case because her design feels like she should be taller than Tails, but comic tries its hardest to keep them close in height.
>>140457879
M-maybe after IDW dies? Never.
>>140457938
He already has. The Metal Virus was originally an Archie storyline.

>>140457879
If he ends up putting this thing behind a patreon wall you guys would leak it right ?

>>140457998
>>140458002
Probably some kinda legal thing too, like he'd need Archie permission or some shit.

>>140458020
Other archie guys said their intended plans just fine, so what is up with Ian pussy footing?

Did Penders ever end up suing the movie sequel guys?

>>140458061
Of course not.

>>140458039
Because unlike them who moved on and don't care anymore, Ian still holds out hope that he can come back to his original plans, and it won't look good to his overlords if he blabs and breaks an NDA.

>>140457952
I can see why some people don't like his art especially with his earlier work on Archie (he had the habit of giving the characters really weird faces) but I remember him getting really good at the tail-end of preboot Archie. Genuinely became one of my favorite Archie artists by then. Shame he didn't draw anymore after the whole legal bullshit except for that one issue of Sonic Boom (Which also looked really good)

>>140458078
Ian is perfectly aware there is no bringing it back. He's just keeping to himself for no good reason for a dead book. Its been six years at this point.

>>140458112
Nah, he clearly thinks there's still a chance, impossibly low as it is. He wouldn't be toying with people over answers otherwise.

>>140458002
> M-maybe after IDW dies? Never

I know that people have been saying it for a long time now without anything happening but... IDW is not doing so well right now. There is a chance that the current comics are also going to meet an abrupt end like their predecessors.

https://bleedingfool.com/blogs/idw-media-still-hemorrhaging-money-lost-1-28-million-last-quarter/

>>140457879
It's frankly petty to keep hanging it over the fans. Either release it or say it's canceled!
>>140457952
>brits comic aint perfect but stuff like that does bother the hell out of me.
Yeah, every comic's got its flaws, but it's maddening when people get even the flaws wrong
>But yeah he's good, man.
Genuinely one of my favorite artists on Archie
>>140457955
Yeah, just keeping her around Tails' size and giving her a canon age would've solved any potential issues.
>>140458002
Exactly! If anything, Stu's the youngest looking character here
>>140458020
He doesn't work for Archie and they don't even care about Sonic anymore
>>140458112
Actually, that's a really interesting point. Maybe he's hoping to publish a memoir of his time at Archie? Having all the future plots would definitely help sales

>>140457955
The issue is that Tails is younger than the rest of the Freedom Fighters while Sally and Bunnie are implied to be around the same age as Sonic and Antoine respectively. Ian could've asked the artists to draw her younger but that would require him to recognize she was supposed to be younger to begin with.
>the alternative being the Fiona cucknic love triangle was awful
For further irony, in the context of the comment where he disowned Tails/Barby, Ian acknowledged that he understood Tails/Fiona to an extent, in that Tails fell for a robot and kept said feelings for the real thing.

>>140458147
They aren't acting like it. They just announced a monthly comic based on Monster High.

>>140458020
It was a legal thing back when the lawsuit was a thing, but he was upfront that those plans were essentially fanfiction and that he doubted Sega nor Archie knew what he was doing back when he was doing it.

>>140458143
Being honest, I think its because those people give him money for his bumblecast as a source. So it kinda makes that whole deal of keeping it so shitty and probably wont ever stop being greedy in keeping it away. It sucks HARD

At least now I understand who Barby is and why her and and Tails ended up married in one fangame I've played.
It's actually pretty cute and works way better than Mina as a pairing.

I don't see anything wrong with it outside of nitpicks about the way Barby was drawn at times.
I'm actually surprised that it's something simple and good, considering how much drama relationship stuff usually brings to Archie.

>>140457042
Aww yeah it's my boy Butler.

>>140458212
link to the fangame?

>>140458212
Those are some cute babbies.

>>140458187
Well duh, you gotta do SOMETHING in order keep shareholders from just shitting their pants and leaving.

> Monster High School

Jesus Christ, I haven't heard that name since I was a teen. That's still a thing? That's what they are putting their hopes in? Is TMNT gonna drop from their lineup soon or something?

I like to imagine Tails visiting Downunda so much that his accent changes

>>140458229
https://knuckleschaotix.net/twisted.htm
It's mostly about Sally and the FF though, it's something that happens on the background and is brought up a few times as Tails is more of a support NPC in that game with Barby appearing a few times too as a NPC.

>>140458307
cool, thanks!

>>140458169
But Bunnie's age was originally stated to be 14 until it was changed to 17 so she could be closer to Antoine's age. In the end, basing the female characters age on how they're drawn doesn't work in Archie Sonic since it's all over the place (except for cardboard Mina who is eternally flat)

>>140458262

No, in fact they have stuffed planned through 2025.

https://www.amazon.com/Teenage-Mutant-Turtles-Adventures-Omnibus/dp/B0C95WWBZH?&linkCode=sl1&tag=richjohnston-20&linkId=fd251129170baa92178e13868d3cf7c1&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl

>>140458307

I was about to ask about this as well, thank you anon!

I don't know why people think IDW dying will magically make Sonic comics amazing masterpieces when we all know the same staff would just move to the next Sonic comic series to work on.

Rare Nephthys fan art

>>140458328
Well let's see what happens. In the end, I kinda want IDW Sonic to stop. It's underwhelming, and its restrictions make a lot of the story non-sensical and throw logic out the window. It's also bringing out the worst in Ian Flynn because of said restrictions. He doesn't know how to fully outmaneuver them. Maybe that's not entirely his fault due to how much Sega is micro-managing shit now but...

Sonic comics need a reboot.

>>140458208
That's a good point. I think he makes $5 for every question he answers. That and keeping up his podcast allows him to act like he's privy to all sorts of secret lore
>>140458212
They're so cute together!
>>140458344
Considering how fantastic the guest writers have been (Scrapnik Island especially), I have to agree. If the mandates were so bad, then every issue would be utterly terrible

>>140458344
Honestly I just want Ian and Evan to get off
get some new blood

>>140458344
The best case scenario is if Sega fucks off with a lot of the mandates with the writing on the wall saying that they are quite detrimental .

>>140458400
Based Plunder, easily Fleetway's standout character for me.

>>140458262
>>140458328
Do you think they are hoping to keep up for long for the Last Ronin game to be released ?

>>140458377
Evan can fuck off. Ian can stay. BUT. Someone new should be hired to keep him in check.

Ian can be a good writer when he wants to be but some of his decisions are just so fucking annoying.

>>140458112
He needs it to further milk Archie fans who give him money.

>>140458423
They have to be. Monster High School is definitely a very odd choice and a show of desperation. They are going to do what they can to stay afloat.

>>140458455
Well, they lost Hasbro, might as well go with Mattel.

>>140458425
Ian has never written anything good.

>>140458427
Love this shit. We need this back

>>140458465
Please god don't let them get their paws on He-Man, we've suffered enough at Kevin Smith's hands.

>>140458325
Ah. Didn't realize that about Bunnie.
Either way, in Barby's case we don't have anything else to work with. She has no given age as far as I'm aware so unless Gallagher said that it was an art fluke, the only reason to assume she's as old as Tails is because Archie wouldn't allow such an age gap... except Geoffrey & Sally was a thing that happened (though I think Sally's age was retconned to be older at some point? Though Penders does not seem to care) so there isn't much benefit of the doubt there.

>>140458455
Why is it odd or desperate? Its still a very popular toyline.

>>140458212
This is cute AF

>>140458487
Still that popular? Doubt. It had a heydey and it's not there anymore.

>>140458377
Would be nice to see them recarge their batteries and work on non-Sonic stuff for a few years
>>140458381
Cute!
>>140458391
I'm honestly a mandates-skeptic now. Sonic technically cries in Scrapnik Island, and Shadow is a friendly jerk that has a funny scene in the TSR comic tie-in. Of course, neither of those are written by Ian or Evan
>>140458425
Ultimately they both want to write everyone like their Archie incarnations (which is fair enough!), but is something Sega doesn't want. The characters end up coming off as neither Sega-Sonic nor Archie, but just really weird

>>140458425
Ian is way past his prime, most of his best writing was during preboot Archie and once that was gone he never recovered
dude is trying too hard to make current Sonic like Archie and won't let go. He either needs a break to cope or fuck off

>>140458391
All companies with IPs have mandates. I have no idea why Sonic fans are such newfags with this.

>>140458511
I mean, it never left stores for more than a few months. This comic is being made due to "high demand".

https://screenrant.com/monster-high-comic-new-scaremester-idw-publishing/

>>140458525
It's not even just that anymore. His writing has deteriorated to just making shallow references.

>>140458513
No wonder he's pissed, they took his legs from the knee down.

>>140458532
>I have no idea why Sonic fans are such newfags with this.
Two reasons
1. autists and children generally know very little outside their specific areas of interest
2. some do know better but prefer to feign ignorance

>>140458449
Their official bios have Shadow and Rouge listing each other as the person they're closest to. My guess is Sega didn't want Team Dark, agents of GUN in a comic where GUN isn't supposed to have a large role
>>140458454
It kinda work
>>140458465
lmao, I keep forgetting these are separate companies
>>140458513
Oh my!
>>140458532
I think the main issue is Ian makes them out to be way more restrictive then they actually are

poasting a sexy Anti-Elias

>>140458512
> Ultimately they both want to write everyone like their Archie incarnations (which is fair enough!), but is something Sega doesn't want. The characters end up coming off as neither Sega-Sonic nor Archie, but just really weird

>>140458525
> dude is trying too hard to make current Sonic like Archie and won't let go. He either needs a break to cope or fuck off

That's the biggest weakness. On paper, I applaud him and Evan for trying to bring it back. But in practice...

It needs to stop. Trying to make Sonic back into Archie Sonic will never work unless Sega steps the fuck back.

Ian probably realizes this but still likely hangs on to hope. Butt it won't work. The one example I can give is the Metal Virus Arc. One of the best arcs of IDW. It falls flat in the end because Eggman is back to being just your average backyard goober villain that doesn't get punished for his actions even though he went into Archie Robotnik mode.

And Sonic continues to preach about killing is bad no matter what blah blah blah even though THE ENTIRE FUCKING PLANET WAS TURNED INTO ZOMBIES AND WOULD'VE DECAYED AWAY.

>>140458425
It'll never happen for a million reasons but I want Ian and Penders to work together so badly. They could unironically make some autismkino if they buried the hatchet and focused their strengths to balance each other out.

>>140458615
Tiny Nicole...

>>140458609
As much as I would scream "HELL NOOOO".

I do wonder what kind of a result we would get...

>>140458582
I wonder why an Anti-Elias never appeared.

>>140458595
>The one example I can give is the Metal Virus Arc. One of the best arcs of IDW. It falls flat in the end because Eggman is back to being just your average backyard goober villain that doesn't get punished for his actions even though he went into Archie Robotnik mode.
Yeah, that's why I can't really get behind the "edgy serial killer Eggman" thing that a lot of the fans seem to like. It just winds up being a "Why doesn't Batman just kill The Joker?" situation.

As for IDW, I feel like it could be decent on its own if Ian could just ditch the crybaby OCs and write a menacing villain or two that isn't Eggman. Surge, Clutch, and Starline were all chumps.

>>140458609
Penders hates Ian, so yes, never.

>>140458651
Birth of Tikhaos.

>>140458655
Anti-Sally probably killed him already.

>>140458595
even then Archie is a desiccated husk of its former self. Riverdale is done and only horror spinoffs and crossovers with Dynamite keep it alive.

>>140458660
>Surge
Only because of the way she lost to Sonic.

>>140458655
Anti-Elias just wouldn't have much reason to trouble the heroes. Even if you portrayed him as a warlord who wanted to usurp his sister's throne, that would pit him against Scourge and company, not Sonic.

Really, the only anti-verse character who even gives a fuck about the main universe is Scourge.

>>140458532
When people hear about mandates in regards to Sonic (and this also applies Mario, hence the "Mario Mandate" meme) they usually hear about stuff that that causes issues with writing or whatever, leading to two outcomes
>Mandates are ruining the series!
or
>Mandates don't exist [INSERT CREATOR HERE] is lying.
When it really depends on how the parent company is feeling at the time. Sometimes they're restrictive on things that they weren't before due to where they're taking the brand.

>>140458609
You're more likely to see the Detroit Lions win the Super Bowl than Flynn and Penders ever cooperating.

>>140458609
We could, but Penders would never allow it. It's his way or the highway, especially these days.

>>140458595
>>140458660
Why do you guys get on Ian for this when the games have the same problem? He literally took over the world and according to IDW, mobians died fighting back for freedom against him. He was also gonna pull this fucking mass murder stunt. And even after all that, he comes back and act like business as usual.

>>140458735
Evil Bunnie becoming a mecha pilot that is bound to her robot was a pretty fun idea.

>>140458595
>THE ENTIRE FUCKING PLANET WAS TURNED INTO ZOMBIES AND WOULD'VE DECAYED AWAY.
anon there was no actual stakes in this shit arc since the virus could be cured with the power of the chaos emeralds.

>>140458655
If the wiki is to be believed, there were more plans for Moebius (though seemingly not for Anti-Elias).
>According to the Official Blog, Anti-Fiona, Anti-Espio and Anti-Shadow ("Sparkles")[1] exist, although they never appeared in the comics. The Complete Sonic Comic Encyclopedia also introduced the concept of the Orderix, the Moebius version of the Chaotix. Jeffrey St. Croix was the first native of Moebius to be based on a comics exclusive character rather than one created for Sega or DiC, and barring mentions of Anti-Penelope and Anti-Rob, the only one introduced so far in the series. Ian Flynn discussed how he had wanted to introduce Anti-Silver ("Sterling") who would have an appearance based on Silver's old Venice the Mink design.[2] He also discussed a possible history of Demon Island,[3] as well as Anti-Cream and Anti-Cheese ("Soda" and "Crackers") as well as Anti-Vanilla.[4] Anti versions of Snivley, Hope and Colin were also discussed.
>Anti-Vanilla
Bros...

>>140458812
What would anti vanillas name be

>>140458769
Yeah, but Forces was shit so who cares?

>>140458609
I'd love to see what utter insanity they'd come up with, but Penders is so salty over Ian, Ian had to block him on Twitter
>>140458655
They seemed to be tiring of the whole anti-universe thing by that point, but it's a massive shame. We were robbed of an edgy leather-clad Elias!
>>140458660
I'm fine having Eggman being disgustingly evil, but having Sonic not chasing after him with all he's got is just wrong
>>140458735
He's so pretty! I'm still holding out hope we get to see him in Scourge Eternal Blackout
>>140458769
The only reason Eggman hasn't been killed yet is because he's an incredible survivor. Sonic thought he'd killed him at the end of Lost World and was fine with it

>>140458829

Yeast.

>>140458595
Honestly even if Sega stepped back the end result would only just be slightly better.
What made Archie Sonic truly special (aside from the early insanity) was seeing a whole chaotic mess fall into place and organically connect with the game world once Ian became the head writer. But even then he had his shortcoming, people tend to forget he learned from Penders and so his writing suffered from bad pacing habits, more talking instead of action and another pet peeves of mine is how he's trying way too much to connect everything together when sometimes one-offs are fine. After the reboot the comic honestly was not as interesting since it had lost most of it's appeal and suffered from most of the issues I talked about earlier except without the memberberries. One of the most well remembered arc of the reboot is the Fighters adaptation for all the good reasons but even at the last issue you have Honey hitting Breezie with a fucking text wall, It's like he doesn't trust his artists to do a good job at conveying stuff
I really want to see what a new writer can do with this series

>>140458812
>Sterling
>Based on Venice The Mink
I'll take Steel over that
>"Sparkles"
Kek

>>140458845
Shit or not, Forces is canon and so is that problem.

>>140458795
That was pretty interesting, and gave a lot of attention to about the last character you'd expect.

>>140458812
>Anti-Shadow ("Sparkles")
I like to headcanon him as being like Bullseye from Punisher MAX -- outwardly really friendly and chipper, but inwardly a complete fucking homicidal lunatic.

>>140458812
> Ian Flynn discussed how he had wanted to introduce Anti-Silver ("Sterling")
Strange. Evan apparently had an idea for Anti-Silver named "Tarnish".

>Ian Flynn was planning on introducing Anti-Shadow at some point. According to Flynn, Anti-Shadow would have been a lovable sweetheart who was also unstable and could brutally kill you without warning. The Anti-Gerald Robotnik would have been a warmonger who created Anti-Shadow to be a living weapon but had a change of heart in his final days and reprogrammed him to do good. Anti-Maria would have been evil and an awful influence on Anti-Shadow.

>>140458795
I like how she at the same time became Omega's moebius counterpart as well, even the whole concept of her being evil but becoming loyal to the good doctor is just Omega inverted.
It's also funny how the "Anti-Omega" armor debuted before Omega himself. An odd distinction.

Weird thing about IDW Sonic, is that even Archie Sonic eventually was not giving any more mercy or thinking he would change for Eggman. IDW Psychonic would see Eggman burn an orphanage and still think he deserved another chance lol. I really dont get this forgiveness angle. Sonic of ALL people should not give that to him.

>>140455336
Claiming Harry. He deserves better than what happens to him.

>>140458938
Is there an actual source for that?

>>140458898
>That was pretty interesting
Yeah, it made her more of a counterpart to the main Bunnie in an unexpected way.

>>140458898
Based on the Bumblecast where Ian talks about it, it's kinda like that. A theoretical Scourge Adventure 2:
>Kintober and Blush the Bat (?) awaken Sparkles
>Sparkles is super chipper and happy and decides to help them achieve world peace.
>They gather up the Anarchy Berryl to power the Ark's Eclipse Cannon
>Sparkles then reveals that his way of achieving "world peace" is by removing the world as in blowing it up.

>>140455364
Harry is best boy.

>>140458984
link? I wanna hear it

>>140458947
What's weirder to me is that it took so long for Cream and Vanilla to finally be added to the mainline Sonic book because, supposedly, Sega thought they were original characters created for the Sonic X anime and Ian had to argue against this for years until they finally caved.

>>140458998
They were made for Sonic X. Them being in Advance 2 was a "sneak peek".

Woulda posted this earlier but got dragged out, here's some uncolored redesigns of Ebony Hare and Foxy Reynard

>>140458660
>I can't really get behind the "edgy serial killer Eggman" thing that a lot of the fans seem to like. It just winds up being a "Why doesn't Batman just kill The Joker?" situation.
It worked in Archie because the implied endgame is that they'd capture him and have him face justice, since they were fighting an actual war. Even if Sonic doesn't want to kill him, he wants to stop Eggman for good.
Granted there were still a lot of moments where they stupidly let him go but still.

>>140459015
very nice!

>>140458812
The name "Sparkles" comes from a quick name for Anti-Shadow on his Bumblekast when asked how Scourge versions of Sonic games would go. He also called Anti-Rouge "Blush the Bat". I don't know why the Wiki is taking the name seriously.

>>140458869
Unfortunately Sega will never be that hands-off with their IP anymore. I totally agree about Ian writing primarily from a worldbuilding/lore perspective rather than a character perspective. It can work well sometimes, but it just falls flat when there isn't decades of stories to build off.
>>140458895
There's nothing wrong with Forces' ending, at least from a characterization standpoint. Eggman and Sonic (and Sonic and (you)) had their final stand, and Eggman blew up inside his machine. There was no trace of him so everyone just moves on to saying their goodbys and wrapping up the plot. Obviously Eggman survived, but we only know that because Sega won't kill off the main villain

>>140455407
Being Harry is suffering.

>>140459015
Those look fantastic, great work!

>>140458948
In slight fairness, Archie Eggman was a monster since day one and just got worse and worse as time went on, with the Egg Grapes and the Egg Fleet probably being the pinnacle.
IDW Eggman seemingly has a similar history to game Eggman up until he poured the robot goop all over everything.
At the same time, between the Zombot stuff and Starline eventually ruining Kit and Surge's lives, IDW!Sonic really should be sick of his shit.

>>140458991
https://youtu.be/lRnp489O5zw?t=803
(13:23 if it doesn't start there)
That entire bit is Ian and his co-host going through the idea of "what would Scourge versions of Sonic game plots look like.

>>140456206
That's a Police matter. Maybe an Echidnapolis equivalent to the FBI. Not the Brotherhood's.

IDW Eggman and game Eggman are the same guy now. If one wouldn't do something, the other can't either.

>>140459070
I didn't make them, RacoonShonobi did, artist who does some solid work but is into weird woman pregnancy stuff

>>140459113
Well they are written by the same person now.

>>140458938
>Ian Flynn was planning on introducing Anti-Shadow at some point. According to Flynn, Anti-Shadow would have been a lovable sweetheart who was also unstable and could brutally kill you without warning. The Anti-Gerald Robotnik would have been a warmonger who created Anti-Shadow to be a living weapon but had a change of heart in his final days and reprogrammed him to do good. Anti-Maria would have been evil and an awful influence on Anti-Shadow.
I still prefer sanctum over sparkles since he has a cool design and his personality doesn't suck but that just my opnion.

>>140459142
I mean the comic is canon to the games.

>>140459015
Nice. Foxy's lookin' thick.
>>140459031
Yeah, now that I'm listening to the podcasts, it's an on-the-spot thing. A funny anecdote, but doubtful that it'd make it to the comic, at least in that state.
That said, the idea of Anti-Shadow being called Sparkles and being a nice guy who decides that the best way to bring about world oeace was to destroy the world makes part of me wish that it was the case.

>>140459077
Game, Archie and Fleetway Sonic would've killed this Eggman if given the chance, and probably even Starline too
>>140459118
No worries, Iwe've had a drawanon post their art before with a similar style
>but is into weird woman pregnancy stuff
lmao

>>140459156
Even more than ever although I see it like the MCU and Agents of SHIELD. There's no way the comics are canon to the games in any meaningful way.

>>140459162
thicc mobian woman is the way of life

I can somewhat see the claim about idw being canon. Though the one about prime being canon is actually retarded. Why cant they just have alt canons instead of this everything needing to be canon now? It'll ironically enough, will lead to a bigger mess down the line.

>>140455308
>yeah charmy's friend just fucking overdoses on LSD, print it

>>140459214
>everything needing to be canon now
it's marketing for twitter. notice how the only ones talking about or caring about it are the americans

>>140459077
>IDW Eggman seemingly has a similar history to game Eggman up until he poured the robot goop all over everything.
Starline probably accidentally made him eviler when he converted him from Mr. Tinker.

>>140459162
>I'm listening to the podcasts
Why?

>>140459246
But now Eggman is back to being his usual goofy-goober self by Frontiers and still doesnt get consequences for the Metal Virus Arc

>>140459245
I mean, thats a majority of sonic fans so of course they will

>>140459258
Because I wanted more detail than the wiki was giving me. I'm not listening to the whole thing, just bits.

>>140459156
>>140459187
Yeah, the comics being canon to the games was always just a cope. The comic has to try to fit around the games, but you can fucking bet the reverse isn't true.

Eventually some SEGA exec will introduce "Wendy the Wolf" or some shit and claim that she was the leader of the Restoration after Infinite was beaten, and Ian and Evan will be left scrambling to try and retcon their comic to explain why Amy was the leader when it was supposed to be Wendy.

Hell, the games already introduced Sage, who is basically just a better Belle.

It took the games longer to truly get to it, but that deal with Eggman doing more bigger and bigger evil unforgiveable shit but somehow the cast doesnt give him too much shit is a thing.

>>140459156
>>140459214
It's canon in the sense that most of the games' events happened in the comic, although there are differences as seen in various flashbacks. It's for the best that it isn't 100% synced with the games, otherwise we'd have the plot derailed every few years to realign with whatever the games are doing.
That said, when people from Sega say Prime/IDW/Movies are canon, they mostly mean "this is a valid Sonic story we officially approve of."
>>140459281
Couldn't agree more

>>140459264
What's funny is apparently the japanese script has Eggman very dismissive/rude to Sage, which would fit IDW Eggman more.

>>140459144
Sanctum's biggest issue is his boring design and his terrible, terrible name. But his comic is pretty good.

>>140459281
Sage is actually worse than bell by a long shot. Eggman acting so different for belle can be explained with actual brain damage. Sage doesnt have that excuse to making him so ooc.

>>140459287
That's basically Joker Immunity in a nutshell: Eggman's the main villain so he'll always survive or escape. But when you start having him do worse and worse stuff, it becomes less and less believable that Sonic and co. would let him go.
Heck, cape comics even have the same problem.

>>140459214
I think IDW being canon to the games is a misunderstanding of the idea that it's supposed an "evergreen" Sonic.
You know like how Sega considers Classic Sonic a separate thing, Sega considers IDW to be the same "category" of Sonic as the games, but that doesn't mean they consider the stories part of the games. Same with Sonic Prime.

>>140459281
There is no canon and never really has been. Retcons appeared real early in this franchise. The best you can hope for is continuities, and even then that gets mucked with enough you have to have timelines.

>>140459287
They definitely give him shit, and would attack him on sight, but most of their interactions are after they're forced to work with him to save the world.
>>140459346
>it becomes less and less believable that Sonic and co. would let him go.
Sonic never lets Eggman go unless he directly helped saving the world (SA2, Shadow, 06, Frontiers) or wasn't responsible (Heroes). The only times Sonic doesn't pursue him is when he thinks Eggman died (Unleashed, Generations, Lost World, Forces)

>>140459287
>>140459346
It's pretty apparent when the actual diabolical villains in the games (Like Black Doom and Mephiles/Solaris) get killed. Even Erazor Dijinn got fucked hard when he went too far.

>>140459423
Crazy how Sonic will lock Erazor away forever, but when it comes to Eggman, "um he'll totally change his way guys" when he is 100% worse

>>140459410
>Sonic never lets Eggman go unless
That even used to be a habit of the Joker too, where there'd be times that something would happen leaving it ambiguous if Joker died or escaped.
>>140459443
Don't worry, he didn't lock Erazor Djinn away forever. He also threw his lamp into lava.

>>140455451
Claiming that dingo and that horse.

>>140459443
Yeah, since IDW Sonic should've went through that same scenario, he should've had Eggman locked up or something.

>>140459443
Sonic not killing Eggman is pure Stockholm syndrome. That's why he just goes "Big oof" without a care when Starline dies but won't let any body hurt Eggdaddy, he wants him for himself

>>140455545
CARLOS

>>140455558
>Lemon Sundrop Dandelion
BRAVO PENDERS

>>140459410
Forgot to add he thought Eggman blew up at the end of Colors. He also chases Eggman at the end of SA1, much to Tails' chagrin
>>140459443
Game and Archie Sonic have always thought Eggman's an irredeemable villain. Sonic even jokes about the absurdity of Eggman changing his ways in Colors. There's so many times Sonic's almost killed Eggman in the games, but the only reason neither have succeeded is because he's a survivor (and because Sega won't allow the main villain to die).
>>140459462
>That even used to be a habit of the Joker too, where there'd be times that something would happen leaving it ambiguous if Joker died or escaped.
Exactly. Sonic's not a forensic scientist or cop. He's just a guy that likes fighting Eggman and going on adventures because it's fun
>>140459489
That's IDW Sonic though, and he's written differently to the other Sonics

>>140455568
He got his ass kicked by her and has never lived it down.

>>140459521
Game and Archie Sonics know there is no getting rid of that nigga. Game had his Eggman seemingly die in loads of scenarios and Archie, even when he did "kill" his doctor, another one from a universe exactly like his until a diverging point replaced him like he never left.

Sonic would kill Shadow before letting him kill his eggdaddy.

Fleetway Sonic is the only Sonic who has an actual reason to not kill his Eggman and even then you know what he did? Threw him in jail to stop him from causing more mayhem because he's not a retard.

Someone should ask Ian if IDW Sonic would've let someone like Archie Eggman go.

>>140459621
And then there is the zoomerrific Movie Sonic who only encountered his Robotnik twice and was willing to kill him after he become a chaos god who wanted to rule everything.

>>140459565
Game Sonic's fine with that though since he genuinely enjoys fighting with Eggman. I agree about Archie Sonic, although he knows there are futures where Eggman's finally defeated. Even movie Sonic was willing to kill Eggman, and he's written as much younger and inexperienced than the other Sonics
>>140459621
Exactly! Fleetway's also got no problem killing when absolutely necessary, and the only reason he doesn't kill Robotnik is because he knows his friend's still in there

>>140455589
Fuck you Locke.

>>140455631
FLEE HARRY! ONLY SUFFERING AWAITS

>>140459649
Barby has a really cute design
I should get around to drawing her one day

>>140459661
People say that Sonic is too soft when he's fine with serious injury and even murder for threatening his family because he too knows Eggman will never change nor stop going after him. I really do hope they play into that aspect of him later

>>140459629
I am not giving that man any money

>>140459662
>Game Sonic's fine with that though since he genuinely enjoys fighting with Eggman.
I try to forget that SoJ's vision of Sonic is "Goku, but furry."

>>140459662
Basically Most Sonics will kill if they have to, but IDW Sonic takes his belief in freedom to such an extent that he thinks his enemies have the right to run free with the hope they'll come to their senses and change their ways or else he'll be asserting authority on them or something which will be against who he is.

>>140459708
Movie Eggman has made attempts to kill him and other people with 0 remorse, so it would be foolish to give him mercy.

>>140459763
Yeah, no shit. That's also why he gave Knuckles a chance because he doesnt know any better.

>>140459734
To be fair, Archie Sonic is kinda that way too since he got bored when he Robotnik was gone, and even gets hyped when Eggman throws an enemy robot at him so he can smash it up an save the day.

>>140459702
Looking forward to it!
>>140459708
The next movie should have planet-destroying lasers so there's a good chance we'll get to see just how far he's willing to go
>>140459710
Same. If anything, he should be paying us
>>140459734
It's a bit more complex than that. He's just a guy that likes adventure, and relaxing during his downtime. He genuinely cares about others, but doesn't see himself as a hero, just as someone that will stop injustice whenever he sees it
>>140459745
Exactly. Every Sonic's willing to kill, except for IDWnic. Frankly IDWnic's weird interpretation of Gamenic's philosophy really irritates me

>>140459779
>It's a bit more complex than that.
No it isn't lmao

>>140459779
I want Sonic to beat the shit out of Shadow after learning his true plan

>>140459776
Archie Sonic (or really any Sonic) is just not suited to rebuilding. It's why he ran off at the end of Forces. Sonic's at his best when he's relaxing or on an adventure. Anything else is too stifling
>>140459778
Cute!
>>140459801
Goku (mostly) fights because he enjoys it and wants to be the strongest. Sonic fights because he loves adventure, but also has a trong hatred for injustice. It's not much more complex, but it is different
>>140459827
Same, but mostly because it'll be hot

IDW Sonic would consider the other Sonics either monsters or misguided.

>>140459266
i mean that the japanese members of sonic team are not harping on this canon bullshit because it isn't a change as to what's going on at sonic team. it's only marketing so the americans can distract themselves with meaningless carrots while they do actually fuck all
>>140459281
>but you can fucking bet the reverse isn't true.
bet? it's a certainty. the japanese have never spoken of anything past the first 12 issues at best.
>>140459299
>"this is a valid Sonic story we officially approve of."
they want you to buy it because if it's not canon, it's not worth buying. that's the marketing slogan for this franchise, if it's canon, it's a product you should consoom

>>140460003
>they want you to buy it because if it's not canon, it's not worth buying. that's the marketing slogan for this franchise, if it's canon, it's a product you should consoom
100% this. You can't expect them to say, "don't bother reading IDW or watching the movies, they're not the primary canon"

>>140459778
I finally understand

anytime I see archie charmy I just think about how much his life sucks and get sad

>>140460100
That's most Chamys

>>140460003
Which is a shame, because the Japanese are pure poison to this franchise. Too bad Sega has no business sense or Sonic Team would have been 100% westerners decades ago.

>>140460100
And to think, the worst thing that ever happened to him was becoming like SoJ Charmy.