Welcome to /sssr/'s very own Sonic Underground thread! This thread is for posting links to Tamers' latest videos and for discussion between the 4chan threads. The occasional NSFW image is allowed provided you tag it as NSFW.
What is this? Tamers12345 is an artist with a single burning passion: the revival of the hit TV series Sonic Underground. Empowered by his love of SU and Bardonic (Bartleby x Sonic), Tamers has been working tirelessly for over a decade to raise the popularity of SU and force Sega to continue the show. Tamers' continuation of SU takes the form of animations released fortnightly that follow the cast's ongoing adventures. If you can look past the text to speech voices you'll find a genuinely compelling show that's a mix between Always Sunny (where everyone's an asshole yet still likeable) and The Venture Bros (with its surprisingly deep lore and a running theme of the present not living up to the expectations of the past).
Is Tamers being ironic? No. Tamers has been making videos since 2010, and has hundreds of hand-drawn SU comics dating back to the early 00s.
Are the fans ironic? Also no. While most of us started watching it out of morbid curiosity, we came to love the characters and their struggles.
So who is Tamers really? A small number of people seem to fixate on just who the guy inside the cardboard Bartleby costume is. The answer is he's just a guy that really likes Sonic Underground.
>>683 We all know this would just get deleted too >>684 The board's name is cyrillic for The Super Special Sonic Ride, which ends up with the same acronym for the cccp/ussr
In case anyone is wondering about why so many posts are deleted on 4/co/, it's because of an unhinged janny we refer to as IDWkun or Archie-schizo. He's an obsessed loser that's been kicked out of every Sonic forum on the internet that took up a janny position for 4/co/ and 4/vg/ a few years ago. He's got backing by the mod ABIB (40+ Nintendofag that's still living the console wars of the 90s and hates Sonic) and has been given free reign to shit up any and all Sonic threads. Fun fact: ABIB is the mod that told /sthg/ anyone discussing the Sonic movie would be banned and is suspected to be the one that kept deleting all the Sonic movie threads on 4/co/. We eventually had enough of him shitting up the Sonic Storytime threads on 4/co/ and moved our main discussions here where we're actually allowed to talk about a blue hedgehog without our posts being deleted or him spamming gore.
Oh, and here's the archive of the post where he fucked up and got outed as a janny: >>>/4chan/vg/414242537 I'd be careful posting this link on 4/co/ since it'll get you a 3 day ban
>>704 >>705 Yeah, plus4chan's very comfy for relaxed discussion. It's pretty much 4chan but before the rot set in. Being able to post audio files and videos with sound is nice too >>708 Close! There's a NSFW button you need to press. >>710 That's it!
>>721 To be fair, he's an old man with lots of practice. You can tell that he's put tremendous time and energy into making art by looking at a catalogue of his pieces. If he wasn't able to break the rules that Loomis tries to put down, then he wouldn't be nearly as awe-inspiring as he typically is. I'm just glad that he's on our side. I couldn't imagine /co/ threads without Rick motivating everyone to take a stab at drawing. AleenaEnjoyer is probably the most improved artist that Tamers threads has, and other artists have popped out of the woodwork on Newgrounds in celebration of Sonic Underground. For a hot minute I took a stab at drawing MSPaint doodles, but I needed to give it up due to a lack of free time and privacy. There's nothing worse than being forced to share a dormitory room with a stranger because university is too cheap to rent out single rooms.
Gonna do my annual rewatch of the whole series for the third time. Every rewatch I always find something new to enjoy, also it's crazy to see how far Tamers has come in terms of storytelling and animation. Too bad the pumpkin patch video got taken down.
>>723 He's got a wonderful style that he's put a huge amount of effort into and is also really nice to talk to. Yeah, I'd like to do some drawings of Sleet and Dingo, but I never seem to find the time >There's nothing worse than being forced to share a dormitory room with a stranger because university is too cheap to rent out single rooms. Shit, that sounds awful. I know colleges have been for-profit hellholes for a while but they're so much worse now >>724 I think it's Libre by Nino Bravo >>728 >Too bad the pumpkin patch video got taken down. Should be in the archive at least
>>729 >Should be in the archive at least btw, anyone have a link to the archive? All I have is Flora Reading The Bible because I like talking about Christianity and The Bible with my Dad despite not really being religious.
This is a man who understands me on a philosophical level. Anyone can make shitty smut whenever they want to. This is a fact of life. In fact, the entire Japanese, Korean, and Chinese economies rely on this. If it wasn't for their ability to create base, soulless, bug-person graphic pornography, their countries would go back to being the shitholes they were when the British started taking over the world. Meanwhile, it takes a genius, and auteur, and, dare I say it, a man to create something as vibrant and powerful as Queen Aleena the Hedgehog of Planet Mobius. Throughout the Beginning Era to the Golden Era, she was always beautiful, intelligent, and devilish. Can tell me of another woman who was clever enough to make backwater tribals worship her children as gods? I didn't think so. But now, in the Messiah Era, Aleena has been allowed to come into her own... and as God is my witness, that makes me want to come into her.
>>689 Still letting you know I'm interested getting those keychains, don't let the other fags say otherwise of what I think. Still need my favorite autist/hedgehog MILF with me at all times.
>>742 Don’t take things over the internet too personal. You had no way of knowing that you were breaking a cultural taboo by replying to and encouraging the Carlos copycat. To be very clear, Carlos was an underage funposter that stopped talking after he got doxxed, which helped to keep Sonic Underground threads clean. Try to avoid responding or interacting with namefags on any board in the future. It may just save your life!
Oh, and here's my absolute favorite scene in all of Tamers' work. It's got something for everyone: great animation, cool one-liners, Sonic and Sleet actually doing something, stock images of hands holding guns, and most importantly, Aleena being dead inside >>740 Very nice!
Oh, and in case anyone's wondering why I use a capcode, it's because I run the website for the Sonic storytime (https://the-ride.neocities.org/ if anyone's interested) and I kbf turning it off since all the regulars recognize my posting style anyway >>746 It's just how YouTube is. You can't say anything too rude or do anything that might jeopardize their ad revenue. Fortunately Tamers has been able to successfully fight off most of his YouTube takedowns, even those from Disney >>747 If that's actually you Carlos, it's because you're underage and generally shit up every thread you enter. You need to stay away from adult spaces because you're frankly a prime target for grooming and it's only a matter of time before you're some pervert's discord kitten. I'm sure you think you're too savvy for that to happen to you but I guarantee that's exactly what the perverts are counting on
>>755 He's already been groomed. He spends all day every day on forums about europeans talking about how he wishes he was white and he can't talk to girls because of his race. /pol/ got to him and now he shits up everything he finds.
>>765 I hope he breaks out of prison and tries to lay low with the Hedgehogs >>768 That's a good point. I figured he'd end up some pervert's cocksleeve, but /pol/ will ensure he never knows the joy of romance, or even friendship >he wishes he was white and he can't talk to girls because of his race That's hilarious. Panama's probably the last country in the world where he'd need to worry about that considering 65% of the population is mestizo and only 7% is white
>>775 It's sad, really. Self hatred for something you can't control is a terrible mindset to have, especially as a minor that can have long lasting mental issues. I hope he grows out on it for his own sake.
>>793 Yeah, he may be irritating, but I genuinely feel sorry for him. Still, he's young enough to unlearn those behaviors and live a normal life if he really wants to
>>862 I hadn't seen that thread, but I'll have to check it out. I actually started this one because I knew Tamers would be releasing a video in the next couple of days and wanted to make an op that had the right links and answers to common questions. The jannies over on 4/co/ have been pretty draconian with Sonic threads so I was hoping to give those anons somewhere to post freely without being harassed
>>1331 One of my favorite parts in the entire series I love all the crude, racy, poopy humor, but I think what I love even more is the parts played straight (ironic, I know)
I've been watching this series for as long as I can remember and I must say, I don't think we'll get another episode as perfect as "Doctor Robotnik has had ENOUGH" for a long time, everything since has either been "pretty ok", unremarkable or (as much as I hate to say it) filler. Nowadays Tamers12345' seems more interested in pandering to the 4chan part of the audience through making certain characters appear when not necessarily needed and writing in what feels like a half hearted "I'm in on the jokes too guys" style through using terms like "larping" and making other "muh heckin 4cuck culture" references here and their. The worst part is, is that I wouldn't mind all this if the episodes now didn't feel so boring and aimless in my opinion of course. Older episodes from what I've seen from my own eyes were mostly centered on the trio of Relatability, Humor and Realism and all three of those things have been cucked in one way or another due to Tamers slowly running out of ideas and once again leaned towards referencing and "bending the knee" to the 4chan audience to an extent by pushing in scenes centred on the "muh heckin waifu!!" characters more and more to the point where actual important members of the background cast are left out or given the short end of the stick. In my opinion of course.
>>1337 Pandering is the worst thing an artist can do, and he doesn't even need to pander anymore, this episode was shit, Tamers even admitted it, and people were still pretending it was good and still slobbering over Flora, when she wasn't even in it. He's got lifers, he should be able to do what he wants without worrying about them unsubbing
>>1340 Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way about the new episodes. I almost feel bad for Tamers12345 (my interpretation of him of course since it's pretty common knowledge that no-one can see eye to eye online about "Tamers12345 The Person" since everyone almost has a personal idea of "who he should be" in their heads based on scraps of info and tidbits but anyway.) as he's pretty much backed into a corner of sorts now, he now has a pretty audible chunk of the fan-base who only watch the series for certain characters bitching and whining online due to characters not appearing and he's more or less forced to put them in to keep up discussion for the episodes one way or another, most threads if not all die out pretty quick when certain characters aren't shown due to the aforementioned chunk of the audience not having any new content of certain characters to milk dry. But at the end of the day, (Not to sound like a faggot but) I'll still continue to love the old episodes, openings, endings, music choice, lore, old character traits long gone, old writing style (once again) long gone etc etc and unless his channel and archives get nuked, nothing will change that fact, or something like that (inb4 "not your personal blog")
Are we really bringing this stupid whiny shit here as well? >muh pnadering!!! Boohoo the character you like hasn't shown up in awhile. The writing has changed, the jokes haven't changed, you're just butthurt he doesn't care about YOUR favorite character as much. It became pretty apparent when you randomly started complaining about Flora when she wasn't even mentioned at all (and truthfully she would've actually fit in this episode as tinkerbell since she's actually a pixie) and yet you cry that he's including characters in episodes when they don't belong? Why should you decide that? Tamers has, and always will, make whatever the fuck he wants. He panders to himself and puts out what he wants to see without fear of other people giving a shit. Stop your bitching and just watch the old shit if you're so upset.
i'll believe tamers isn't pandering to florafags when he does something that would piss them off, even make them unsub to his patreon, like say that flora doesn't actually have autism or make her trans
>>1399 Me personally, I can't really give a concise answer on how I categorize the eras but I (usually) split them up into "seasons" having them start with something with lore and end with a lore payoff for my own sake when re-watching the channel or I would label the eras in correlation to the year(s) where the content was very similar in tone and video, "Deviantart Era" etc etc. I can and could sperg about what and where the "Golden" or "Silver" or whatever the fuck era is but it doesn't really matter for the average new viewer.
In general in the wider "fandom" there's no real "eras" just Tamers12345 and honestly for most people it's better that way, all of his content is worth a watch and do have good parts to them even the "bad" episodes like Manic Gets a Job or whatever it was called ( I for one love the really old small side content that kinda goes overlooked nowadays, I recommend all newfags to sit down and watch these, some really good diamonds in the rough. bardonic(BartlebyXSonic) Period )
>>1495 Well, to be honest, i was looking forward to the autism. I watched everything up to New Year Look Back 2018 in the Alis playlist across two days while i was horribly, horribly sick. Stopped there in large part because Uncle Chuck Babysits needed me to be signed in and i was watching on my phone. When i got back to my computer i watched up to Season 3 Opening (one of my favorites), then took a little break. Here i stopped being so religious; skipped to the beach episodes, back to bowling, then filled in the gap normally. Id say it was around here that i noticed a shift, a shift i still very much enjoyed, but i did notice the "new" stuff was more different to what came before than what came before was to what came before what came before. The next shift would come after Sonic Finds His Father (one of my favorites), when he started focusing on The Boys much more. That ofcourse was because not too long after comes The Battle With The Boys, which i did not really like all that much: Strong Start and Finish, Middle was a slog for me. Holiday episodes that followed where all strong and i liked them much more than the stuff right before. Everything from there until Sleet and Dingo Origin didnt leave much of an impression. Flora's Bakery and High School Musical would be the exceptions to that, but i am mixed on both. My First episode was Sonia Gets Suspended, and i found and find the Flora in the Bakery Episode bland compared to what would come before and after. What i really liked about that one was Manic being jealous of Bartleby and them dressing up in the pumpkin costumes. HSM had some moments (Mark punching Chuck just kills me and Sonia and Knuckles dancing is much cute), but it was also HSM and it felt like that was the joke half the time. Loved Arcade. Hiking and Sleet and Dingo Origins where good, 4th was alright. After Sleet and Dingo i started skipping around a lot more, there is a pretty big hole here. Doctor Robotnik Has Had Enough i agree with what ive seen that it is a damn near perfect episode. Chili Cook Off was okay. Christmas Carol i really didnt like for pretty much the seem reasons i didnt like Narnia or Alice in Wonderland, and now Peter Pan. I loved Wizard of Oz, and i feel like everyone including Tamers does, so he keeps making classic literature parodies to try and recapture the lighting and it really just isnt working. Sonia Gets Suspended i love. After Christmas Carol its all too resent to me for me to have coherent thoughts. Personally, i would go by, like you said, what feels like seasons. Least for the Alis playlist: Oz; Season 3 OP/Sweet Sixteen; Sonic Finds His Father; The Boys; Fired On Christmas; Sleet and Dingo; WW3; Sonia Gets Suspended; Goodwill+ After the movies he always has a sort of "interwar" period, i guess cause he already has stuff lined up for after the bigun which leaves them feeling like a mix between what came before and what comes after. Well, sorry if this was a bit much, ive just really itching to get it all out i guess. I would be interested to see what the old and comparatively oldfags think of it. I will check out more of the side content.
On the topic of being honest with tamers12345's content. I don't really see much of the quality going down recently, and I've been enjoying a lot of it. The Peter Pan episode was kind of a miss for me, the only highlights being Athair, baby brother uncle Chuck, and the bonk. Other than the Peter Pan episode, the other miss episodes I can think on the top of my head are Manic's first job, and Willy Wonka.
The recent episodes I've really really enjoyed were Chuck E Cheese, Good Will, Halloween Heroes, St. Patrick's Day, Renaissance Festival, Year without Christmas, and The Vacation. My enjoyment from Tamers12345 videos are mostly fun character interactions, everyone being an asshole, rare gems of wholesomeness, the chaotic environment, and violence. As long as the episodes are overall fun I'm good. My taste may be different from others but eh... I still enjoy them.
I am a filthy Flora enjoyer, but I do agree she shouldn't be overused or forced in a lot of episode. The current amout of Flora is fine. The Good will episode seems controversial because people love/hate the spanking scene and mostly focus on that. That part was funny, but there's other great parts of that episode, like The Divine Warrior VS. The Oracle of Delphius, the Ma, Titus, Bobby Moon Beam team up, Bradley's crime scene, and the Fake magazine controversy. That episode was packing. The Peter Pan episode felt out of focus and felt like Tamers wanted to make a parody episode and didn't feel like scraping it when it seem like quality.
For stuff I'm looking forward to are just the same old Chaos, everyone being mean, Bartleby being the person who causes the problem, cute ships, and violence. The stuff I want to see are More Divine Warrior, mix match character interactions, side character focus episodes, Titus and The Oracle of Delphius being villains(honestly I'm not too interestedin something like the boys again), an Aleena focus episode, Jarod and Raphi as a duo, and overall wacky scenarios... and that's mainly it...*cough cough Aleena x Flora*...
>>1545 Good point about the classic literature parodies, I really do think the Wizard of OZ video was amazing was amazing but I’m curious as to why you don’t like the Alice in Wonderland Parody. Just curious on other peoples take on the episode as I’ve always held it in a personal high acclaim as I always found it to be a really funny video with some really good pace and expressive art. But I must admit all the other Class literature parodies are most of the time trying to make lightning strike twice.
Your post also made me realise that sitting down and watching Tamers for the first time must be a fucking drag in the channels current state with all the new content, when I found the channel years ago I watched “Sonic and Friends play with their balls PT. 2“ because that was the newest video and then flopped around different episodes until watching all the side animations / OPs and EDs and it’s only recently I’ve been scraping through the really old stuff (The Manic Costume video for example) but since you didn’t mind the ‘tism I’ll just summarise my views on the Golden Era and put it from 2017 - 2021, everything before such as Cereal Crisis and Zombie Apocalypse are amazing fucking episodes on their own but they aren’t as re watchable and they just aren’t what I want in an episode in general.
>>1579 1. Roller Skating for Valentines Day 2. Dollar Store 3. Chinese Buffet 4. Shoplifter at Walmart 5. The Polar Express OR Mindy's Sisters come to Visit
These all introduce the main characters of the series and their personalities pretty quickly and efficiently while keeping lore at a minimum. If you feel daring try dipping your toes into the lore using “Willby’s Definitive Tamers12345 Lore Guide” playlist, it’s just the basic lore layed out in a pretty digestible 34 videos which would take about a day(?) to burn through if bingeing. The lore essential to enjoy the episodes but there’s worth watching in case anything related to it shows up in a newer episode.
Just wanted to say I'm glad so many anons have made it here. With 4chan adding cloudflare to its captchas, increasing wait-times to post, requiring email verification to post on /biz/, and the increasing heavy-handed moderation of Sonic threads on 4/co/, it's nice to have an alternative >>1333 Tamers is at his best when he's giving the characters heartfelt moments, providing social commentary, and making fart jokes all at the same time >>1399 It needs work, but these are my rough eras: 1. Original show 2. AMV era, where Robotnik is thought to be dead and everyone still lives on Mobius 3. Earth era, where they've all moved to Earth, but Robotnik's still dead (e.g., Great Cereal Crisis) 4. Revival of Robotnik era, where Robotnik, Sleet and Dingo are back. This starts with the bowling episode 5. Prophesy era, where TBWTB storyline becomes the main focus 6. WWIII era, which starts after TBWTB and ends with WWIII 7. Modern era, which starts after WWIII >>1545 >Doctor Robotnik Has Had Enough i agree with what ive seen that it is a damn near perfect episode Absolute patrician taste! >>1549 Yeah, I don't see it as having gone downhill, but more like he's experimenting with different things to see what works, while trying to maintain a fortnightly release. I actually liked the Peter Pan episode, but mostly because it was Knuckles-centric >>1561 That thumbnail was bound to garner attention >>1562 I wouldn't feel too bad, since the artstyle and use of TTS can make it seem like meme/elsagate content until you watch an entire episode >>1580 Those are some good picks. The videos where they visit a store/restaurant are my favorite, and are really good introductions to Tamers' content since they aren't lore heave. I'd move a movie adaption like the Polar Express to the 3rd slot for variety though
>>1620 that is a good classification i think. >requiring email verification to post on /biz/ Dr. Robotic has some competition... >>1549 i dont think it has gone downhill, though it would be lying if i said there where not rough spots. it has just changed, and i still like what it has changed into, but i feel the older stuff was more unique. the way i would put it is that the newer stuff is top of the class while the older stuff was teaching a class. i agree Goodwill was good, and i liked Chuck E Cheese. >>1563 watched some side stuff. "Why do i hate Modern sonic you ask?" Banana nose... >curious as to why you don’t like the Alice in Wonderland Parody Because i feel that it misses the core of the book, which makes it a bad parody. It has good jokes, pacing, and animation, but all the Wonderland stuff just feels like a crutch. I like the beginning and end where they are in walmart as that has all the good things about the episode without the bad parts. Guess i just have a thing about parody. >Cereal Crisis and Zombie Apocalypse are amazing fucking episodes on their own but they aren’t as re watchable and they just aren’t what I want in an episode in general. Agree they arnt very rewatchable, but i enjoyed them more than most things on first watch. Cereal Crisis in particular just blew me away. want do you want in an episode in general? for me i guess it would be fewer more... 'delicate' episodes. i love background jokes, dances, and cute scenes and how he sprinkles them in just so.
>>1642 >that is a good classification i think. Thanks! >Dr. Robotic has some competition... It's pretty interesting if you look into the stats. We see /biz/ was becoming about as popular as /co/ but the email verification has it at under 20% of its usual post volume. Personally, I think they'll roll it out to /pol/ and /b/ to reduce post volume/spam/bots/etc, and maybe /vg/. I always assumed /pol/ was the fastest board but it's actually been /vg/ for a while now, and if you combine /v/ and /vg/'s numbers, they've always been on top. That said, despite being much larger than any of the other boards, /pol/, /v/, and /vg/ only make up one third of all 4chan's posts >Cereal Crisis in particular just blew me away It's his first "proper" episode and is still one of his best
>>1642 >want do you want in an episode in general? One big thing I like in an episode is Realistic episode themes and writing whether it be "going shopping" or "going to the beach" or "going to a cookout" etc etc. I prefer episodes that use the episode location and its restrictions to it's advantage, an example of this being Hot-Spring Vacation, there's only so much you can do with such a location but tamers12345 uses the restrictive location to it's advantage by having the episode split into separate perspectives and sub-plots to fill out the 24 standard minutes of video and the final result comes out to be one of the most well-paced rewatchable videos tamers12345 has ever made EVER in my opinion as it's very easy to get immersed in as all the scenes take place back to back in order so it almost feels like the viewer itself is watching everything go down in real time. And on the topic of writing, I realised recently after rewatching that the writing hasn't changed all that much over the past seven or so years but what has changed is the pacing and amount of jokes and how they're used in tandem with the writing of the episode, jokes now are very back-to-back and not well spaced out and in some cases (mainly the episodes this year) the theme and potential doesn't get time to breath and by extension the relatability. (in my opinion)
Speaking of immersion, the immersion and relatability are also things I look for in videos. The immersion usually comes from the realism in the backgrounds and flow of the episode, the backgrounds Tamers12345 uses really do go under-appreciated as alot of them add to the experience of the episode and not to repeat myself but the older episodes were better because of this as alot of the episodes from 2017 - 2021 such as "Uncle Chucks for 4th of July" (one of my favourites when it comes to muh heckin realism) for example uses shots of empty kitchens, rooms and general areas that fit where they should be / were before to really make it feel like the Hedgehogs are IN THE ROOM and not a png floating on-top of another PNG (Pic-Rel), it's really hard to explain what fits the criteria of what I consider a "good background" but if you watch "Uncle Chucks for 4th of July" you might be able to see what I see. For the immersion in the flow of the episode part, I like and think the immersion is at it's best when an episode takes place in either three separate plots max or just one simple straight line to the end as you are in real time keeping tabs of what was and is going on in the episode sub-consciously or consciously like what people do in every day normally and all of this adds even more to the relatability which goes hand in hand with the realistic themes and writing (everyone has been to a family outing, everyone has been shopping, most people have had shitty birthday parties, everyone has had or will have a "sweet sixteenth", most people have seen or had a fight in school, everyone has played minecraft, gone hiking, went to the beach etc etc etc), once again making a near perfect trio of things to apply into videos. (I'll stop about immersion here because I can tell that this is getting a bit too autistic.)
I guess, I also like when the art in the episode is janky. I hate to say it but I prefer when the art on display in any given episode is constantly changing in little ways for the better or worse as it just makes the episodes have this "Deviantart" feel to it that I just din't get from the series anymore as the art is VERY good now and it's VERY consistent from what I've saw. (I know this is a very retarded thing to like episodes looking worse but I like it.)
>>1642 >Because i feel that it misses the core of the book I think that's the big reason why I like the episode, because I haven't read the book and I have nothing to base it on outside of faint memories of watching the movie years back, and by extension can't see the crutch that you see. To me Wonderland felt very original and different to the source material outside of character designs and locations (from my very very faint memory of watching the film) but Tamers12345 made it original in a very enjoyable "Tamers12345" way, mainly through call-backs to old episodes and character interactions with characters I'm all too familiar with. So I guess as a Parody of the original it's well, not all that great but as it's own thing it's an amazing episode (In my opinion)
>>1740 The only good part about it was the punchline at the end, that's it. Bad art, bad jokes (like that Max segment, that was so unfunny), bad pacing, bad framing, how many times did he reuse that one shot of Ferrel? It's THE worst episode, with the Peter Pan episode being second place
>>1740 The whole episode had maybe 20 frames and 1 speaking line from Bartleby. Also Manic doesn't have what it takes to be in the leading role. It's easily the worst one ever made.
>>1740 Decided to re-watch it because of this post and yeah... it's pretty boring. I went through the entire episode with a straight face. >>1746 The bad art doesn't really bother me, but I agree with you on everything else. >>1748 A good Manic lead episode literally got hijacked by Jeremy and Aang
>>1748 >It's easily the worst one ever made. Eh, for me that still goes to the BOTW parody he did. It was the shortest parody video by far, wasn't very funny, and was evident that he didn't really know or care about the source material and just wanted to get it out in time for the BOTW hype views.
>>1771 Also to add onto this, I'm not annoyed that he didn't have deep cut Zelda references or something stupid like that, just that when someone makes a video about something they're not really all that interested in it tends to shine through. I'd rather he keep making videos including whatever random anime/cartoons he's watched and not just whatever the new big thing is for the sake of clicks.
New episode's coming in like 3-4 days, I wonder what it'll be. I sort of hope he takes a break from parodies, feels like there's an overabundance of them recently
>>1798 2 weeks since last video will fall on the 12th, aka Mother's Day so I'm wondering if it'll be a special. Aleena focused episode would be cool since the only one she's ever really had was Aleena gets fired on Christmas Eve, but I think it'd be interesting to use Mother's Day as a way to explore Mrs. Latour's backstory
>>1800 I don't think he cares or has the forethought to plan that out, he put out a St. Patrick's Day episode and a birthday episode for the triplets in February when those take place in March
>>1844 All three. If he was only one I probably wouldn't care about him as much. It's funny that he's powerful enough to literally solve any problem anyone might face with either brute strength or wealth, can cause problems for everyone around him yet still always be in the right because that's how the universe works, and sometimes just can't be bothered or would rather others grow stronger rather than just rely on him for everything.
>>1844 #1 is best when the feats to win the day are Herculean, as depicted in that pic and during the Polar Express episode #2 is best when it turns out Bartleby is actually right, and we don't just have to pretend he is, the latter being depicted in your pic and the Motel episode #3 is best when the spotlight is on another character and they get to shine, as depicted in your pic, the Pizza Hut episode with Manic, and the Sleengo episode
>>1706 Some genuine words of wisdom there >>1710 They were really cute >>1776 Speaking of ponies: Sonic Underground X My Little Pony: Bardonic is Magic >>1844 You forgot >The Guy who's unaware about the problem because he's on the toilet >>1848 Well said! >>1883 We've covered Sonic fancomics with MLP cameos on The Ride and what we did was put censor boxes over every horse, and were vague when referring to the characters. My recommendation, just use SU characters as substitute. I'm not familiar with the show so I'm going on their colors: Twilight Sparkle = Horse Aleena Spike = Horse Manic Applejack = Horse Mindy Rainbow Dash = Horse Sonic Pinkie Pie = Horse Sonia Rarity = Horse Knuckles? We don't have a red one Fluttershy = Horse Bartleby
>>1902 Last one for now. I can't believe that with just a single episode, Tamers has made me care about a ship I'd never even heard of from a show I've never watched
>>1904 >I can't believe that with just a single episode, Tamers has made me care about a ship I'd never even heard of from a show I've never watched They're cousins
>>738 Are you still interested? I finally got around to actually making her. I was gonna do it sooner, but graduation got in the way and then i had to pack up and move out of college and yadda yadda yadda. But it's a perfect day to reveal the MILF keychain tho lol
>>1337 Yeah, more recent videos don't feel the same. Yet that anxiety has always been there for me since Tamers tried to do that Zatch Bell Reboot, but nobody liked it so he moved on and went to make some truly amazing stuff. I think Tamers is rushing too much, which is why recent stuff feels boring and aimless. He should take his time to focus on surpassing himself with every upload, as we know he's been doing for a long time. I wouldnt mind waiting longer if it meant getting gems. Speaking of something truly special: For me, when it premiered, "Sonia The Hedgehog gets into a fight at school then gets suspended" was one of the greatest things I'd ever watched, everything I loved about Tamers wrapped in an bundle: the lore, relatability, humor, art and realism... I had ordered something I hadn't eaten in an very long time, to sup during the premier. It was beautiful. I think there's been some real good stuff in the meantime like the Chucky Cheese episode, but I would encourage Tamers to take his time and work his magic. Regardless this is his lifes mission, so I wouldnt be too worried, he will probably get over this slump eventually.
>>1845 That's why the "Mindy loses everything" episode is perfect in that respect, Bartleby pulls some Saw like shit and Mark acts like having is life ruined is the best thing to ever happen to him. It also has him being very wise, which goes excellently with his sadism.
Here's my shitty thoughts on the new episode. Good to see artist 2 is still alive and kicking. Their absence kind of worried me. Over all the episode was fun and I enjoyed it, but it's pretty disappointing how little we saw from the SU cast for a "crossover". Sonic and Bartleby barley did anything besides saving the world witch felt underwhelming. It feels justified with it being Sonic's imagination playing with his toys but doesn't change my feelings about it. Bartleby felt absent yet being present at the same time. The ending made me feel artist 1 and 2 wanted to make their own parody Sonic dream episode with how similar the ending felt. Having a sonic dream episode felt weird back to back... The characters jokes were fine. It's not the best episode but it's definitely not bad. But I do feel this episode was over hated by the people in co because pony. But again I overall enjoyed myself, but we just had Star Wars, Peter Pan and MLP. I would appreciate a non Parody/media themed episode for a while.
I really am going to have to watch this show at some point >>1921 Yeah, I've missed the catty dialogue and the romantic twists and turns that artist 2 specializes in. It's actually my favorite part of SU. That AMV at the end was genuinely beautiful >Bartleby felt absent yet being present at the same time. Bartleby's rarely in the forefront of artist 2's work, probably because he could easily solve almost any problem. We mostly feel his presence through his relationship with Sonic >The ending made me feel artist 1 and 2 wanted to make their own parody Sonic dream episode with how similar the ending felt We've seen this a few times, where both want to do their own take on things. The back to back Christmas episodes are a good example of this, although there was still a lot of overlap. Interestingly, I think they've both been working on merging their artistic styles. Artist 2 now draws Sonia with different colored hair and fur
>>1925 Honestly, I'd usually agree and don't talk about it over on 4/co/, but I figure only the diehard fans will be posting here. Ultimately it doesn't matter how the sausage is made, but there's clearly a second artist/writer that only contributes occasionally
>>1925 Is the 2 tamers theory taboo here? >>1927 >>1932 I took one look at Sonia and instantly recognized it was the other guy. I do prefer Sonia with different colored fur and hair.
>>1932 Exactly. The Sleet and Dingo Origins and Robotnik has had enough episodes are clearly different in tone and style to most episodes >>1933 It's fine here, I just personally don't like talking about it over on 4/co/ since it makes the anons want to peek behind the curtain. They clearly want to maintain a private life and I think we at least owe them that after providing us all this fantastic content >I took one look at Sonia and instantly recognized it was the other guy. Yeah, he does still draw her differently, but they seem to be trying to adopt a house style for the art. I like the different colors too, it helps keep her distinct from her siblings
>>1972 I think he's implying that they're both in the video. Really all it proves is that Tamers knows at least one other male around his age that's willing help him out with his live action videos. It's not exactly a Kira-level deduction
Not really related to any recent episodes, just something I thought of.
I like to think that Aleena used to wear her hair up when she was Queen of Mobius, and she just wears it down these days cause she doesn’t care anymore.
>>2005 Yeah, but it’s fun to pretend he’s also secretly a Jedi >>2044 Wait a minute, another person is a Sleengo fan? B-but I was told literally every poster that talks about Sleengo is me. What a conundrum!
>>2056 It was that guy who's always posting "sleengofags absolutely BTFO.jpg", and if filenames are enough to go by, this loon also posted Tamers' (alleged) location.
>>2066 It really is! It's a shame modern anime doesn't do the chibi faces to exaggerate emotion Fun fact: the artist behind that song also did the opening credits of the Dr Phil show >>2068 It's overly dramatic with a Hot Topic vibe, I'm surprised it wasn't more popular >>2071 I can't prove it, but I'm almost certain it's the janny that's been trying to shit up Sonic threads for a few years now on 4/co/ and /sthg/. I mentioned him here: >>711
Anybody else find the recent videos less rewatchable? Not to say they're bad, I very much enjoy them and it's clear they're far higher quality than they've ever been, but ever since the buildup to WW3 I've found I usually just watch the episodes once and am done, whereas a lot of the early stuff I've seen dozens of times and still rewatch them every now and then, but I don't find myself coming back to rewatch and of the newer videos as much if at all.
I actually really enjoyed the vacation episode, down to Earth episodes like that are my favorite. No one in Hollywood could dream of capturing the American working class lifestyle like Tamers. The Little Caesar’s Pizza, the constant trips to Dollar General and Walmart, it’s all there.
>>2253 Same here. I think it's a mix of not much going on lore wise and the pacing either being way too fast or way too slow. I've re-watched the likes of Hiking and Sonic Finds his Father too many times to count.
Sonic the Hedgehog take the bus to school - [Official teaser Trailer] New kino in-bound! It looks like this is going to be an action and lore-introduction episode so get ready also we might be finally seeing that whole "Sonic stands up for himself and shows everyone who he wants to be" plot-line from DRHHE finally coming back!
Damn looks like the SU x MLP episode has been made private and you can't watch it anymore... anyone have a backup link to dl it? I'm no brony but that episode was a riot and I'm sad I can't watch it anymore
>>2275 I’ll put one up later I no one else does. I’m guessing archive anon has a copy, although I don’t think he usually puts them out immediately so people will watch on Tamers’ YouTube
>>2275 >>2277 It's back up, but the song at the end got replaced, though strangely not the separate ED version. But maybe it's because the Patreon credits had the full version?
>>2278 This happens a lot with Tamers’ videos, since he uses copyrighted music. Those anime lawyers don’t mess around. This is why I try to archive videos as soon as possible, so we don’t end up in a Star Wars original trilogy situation where the theatric cut is lost
So I was looking at the Sonic Underground logo and decided to see if I could track down the font. It turns out it's actually hand-drawn but based on a heavily modified version of the font Gravicon. I've decided to edit it so we can have our own version. So far, I've finished everything except the "R" and "G". >>2271 lmao, Bartleby got him a golden medallion >>2278 I'm glad it's back up, but the original song fits so much better >>2281 Cool, thanks!
>>2365 Dude, I literally just did the same thing last week no joke. But the SU font, to my findings at least, is much much closer to CC TheStorySoFar. Here's a comparison of mine and the Logo.
>>2366 Great minds think alike! Yeah, your one seems to fit the higher letters of "Underground" whereas mine fits the "Sonic" letter heights better. Overall, I think yours is the one we should go with. I couldn't find a version of CC TheStorySoFar that looks like your example though, but if you upload it to the archive I'll make some edits to make it more like the logo. >>2514 Current 4/co/ thread: https://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/143826846 >>>/4chan/co/143826846
Decided to slow down and reverse the reversed segment and add it back into the scene
>>1908 a little update for anyone that cares. The store didn't have all the colors I needed so I tried experimenting with other markers n shit. Thoughts? I'm considering starting over when I figure out exactly the right way to do it.
>>2566 Yeah, it's me. That one that wants to buy your keychains. It's not bad, I'd say but I could definitely tell it needs some more touching up. But still, glad to see.
>>2567 yeah don't worry it's not nearly done lol. but yeah, the reason I was so slow to get going was I wanted to know exactly what I was doing and get the right materials. Cuz when I made the first one it was all stuff I borrowed.
>>2561 It's in the archive under OC > Fonts, I've also included the CC TheStorySoFar from before I edited. Was a pain to find since most places want to charge an arm and a leg for it.
Every day and every night I always dream that you are by my side Oh baby every day and every night Well I said everything's gonna be alright And I’ll fly with you
>>2580 Cool! I could only see the modified font but I'll have a go at tweaking a few of the letters >>2582 >Moderne Sonic-Fans raus, moderne Sonic-Fans raus, SU für SU-Fans, moderne Sonic-Fans raus Damn, Tamers is getting spicy!
I missed the end of the 4/co/ thread so I wanted to say thanks to our drawfriend for fulfilling my request for a yandere hedgehog. I was hoping for Manic, but no complaints when it's best girl Aleena! It looks fantastic! >>2588 Thanks, got it now!
Had a go at editing CC TheStorySoFar and am mostly there. The G and R need a little more tweaking but I'm much happier with this version than my previous attempt. I might use the modified Gravicon font for the "Sonic" part though since it's squarer
happy fag month to sonic, bartleby, sleet, dingo, trevor, cyrus, braeburn, maybe big mac, maybe manic, maybe uncle chuck, maybe athair, rooney doodle, billy's dad, sid the science kid, gerald, maybe william, oliver, doo doo the clown, obi-wan, robbie rotten, robert (rip, traitor), oracle of delphius, michael jackson, light yagami, l (real name l lawliet), and many more, and to all the fans of sonic underground!
>>2876 What about them? >>2744 Thanks! I'll make them both available once I've made the final touches >>2847 Felicitations fellow fudge-packing friends of Dorothy, and happy mandatory homosexuality month to our heterofag friends too! >maybe big mac BraeMac got three (3) AMVs, that means they're married!
>>2926 Most Sleengo-appreciators (including that artist) see Sleet as a reluctant top and Dingo as the dominant power bottom. The larger guy isn't always the top!
>>2876 Honestly I think part of Tamer’s appeal is the focus on M/M content. Even these days there isn’t much of that in western media, F/F is preferred. And M/M content in mainstream media sucks fucking balls anyway.
>>2952 >M/M content in mainstream media sucks fucking balls anyway. And not in a good way! It's so frustrating that our only options for M/M content is fart-huffing queer cinema, content made by fujos (where only a small amount is actually good), and an absolutely tiny amount of content made for and by gay men that isn't just porn. I genuinely can't think of anything recent from mainstream media that has a good depiction of M/M relationships.
I've been working through my backlog and the most fun I've had in a long time is from Gravitation, an anime from 2000. It's fun, silly, and doesn't make a big deal about the MC realizing he likes dudes. All of the drama comes from their clashing personalities so you could swap the MC or his crush with a girl and the story would be pretty much the same. In case anyone's interested, the it's based on a manga which has a heap of lewd doujins made by the author: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitation_(manga)
>>2952 the gays and the straights are both excellent, sleet and dingo are one of my fav relationships in the show rn , their dynamic is so unique , sleet pretends to hate dingo staring at his ass i know he likes that tho
and sonia and knuckles are literally the cutest couple ive ever seen in fiction , shes the only girl to make him nervous , listen to how he gets that "bitch" out he was just doing it to save himself from seeming nervous acting all cool and shit, just for her
>>1933 2 tamers theory makes me shit my pants , i cant explain this great fear but i know when it comes to mind during a gold viewing of an episode of tamers sonic underground i am torn between two worlds of conspiracy
>>2990 Most people don't know this, but while Tamers' true form has two heads, he's actually a single being >>2988 Yeah, Sleengo's obviously my favorite but Knuxonia's absolutely adorable. I just love seeing all the little interactions the couples have
>>2990 Ignoring the subtle and not-so-subtle differences in their art, I think the biggest evidence of two Tamers is how they treat Sleet and Dingo's relationship, where one clearly ships them and the other wants them to just be a one-sided joke, like you'd never see something like what happened in Dr. Robotnik has had ENOUGH out of the same guy that wrote Sleet saying "Dingo, I'm not gay" in the episode about Cyrus' dad
>>2999 >you'd never see something like what happened in Dr. Robotnik has had ENOUGH out of the same guy that wrote Sleet saying "Dingo, I'm not gay" in the episode about Cyrus' dad Didn't the episode with Cyrus' dad happen before Dr. Robotnik has had ENOUGH? Sleet was never actually out of the closet until that episode and was still insisting he was straight despite being in a 20+ year relationship with Dingo. I actually really like seeing this sort of thing in Tamers' vids since it's so rare to see depictions of relationships where one of the partners is still in the closet despite maintaining a long-term relationship with an openly gay guy.
I think Tamers likes writing these too since that's how he wrote the BraeMac ship. I did like the twist on the Sleengo relationship in having the bara be the closet case instead of the twink. That said, I don't like the plot point about Dingo fattening up Sleet and making him wear blue to make him more like Sonic
>>2999 one of the things that make me shit my pants is seeing the slight differences and wondering is it improvement or a different person doing this art, and never knowing whos doing the writing , that pony episode felt off like it didnt look like his art and it didnt feel like his writing, it almost felt like a tamers parody , and that chat message in the premiere about not knowing any of the ponies names so he doesnt understand what people are talking about just makes me feel like someone else made it, and then i wonder how many episodes the someone else made, i go schizo everytime i watch some fucking tamers
>>2999 Idk honestly I don’t think Sleet is out of character in the Cyrus episode. Dingo is going on his tangent about the Keebler elf and Sleet doing his straight guy act, I don’t see how it’s any different than business as usual. Honestly the only time I think they’ve been out of character is the game show episode, Dingo was definitely at his lowest there.
>>3005 >Sleet was never actually out of the closet There's a difference between being in the closet but still being gay in private, and what feels like being written to not be gay at all. Like, you can say that he's in denial of his feelings for shit like being flustered by the Pumpkin Boys being in their underwear or Uncle Chuck slapping sunscreen on Dr. Robotnik's fat ass, but he straight up calls Dingo hot in Sonic Underground - Why Dr. Robotnik Hates Music, and all of these gay as shit things are clearly drawn by the same artist. Not to say that artist never had Sleet be revulsed by Dingo's advances, just look at the cookout episode or that artist's beach episode, but you can get both of those with the Sleengo artist, which is missing from the current artist. You say that he's out of the closet -now-, but what episode past Dr. Robotnik has had ENOUGH has had him be gay? >>3019 That reminds me about the weirdest part of that episode, where Robotnik was praising Sleet for suggesting something, and saying "that's why I pay you more than Dingo", and Sleet had this smug look on his face, that felt inconsistent with either artists' version of Sleet, hell, it felt more like the original show's version of them more than anything, where he kissed up to Robotnik and often thought of ways to screw over Dingo for his share of the pay.
I’m not trying to veer off topic but I have to thank Tamers for reminding me about Black Butler. I put off rewatching for years because I was afraid I wouldn’t like it as much as I did in middle school. That said I just finished season 2 and it was bitchin, I actually enjoyed it more this time around. Especially watching it with the mindset that it very well may of inspired Tamers’s current work. Bartleby really is just like Sebastian.
>>3012 May Tamers' great noodly appendage touch us all >>3019 I suspect multiple episodes are in production at any one time so the release order isn't necessarily the chronological order. It did feel like backsliding in that episode >>3038 It varies on what's most funny for a situation, but Sleet's never been comfortable with public displays of affection until the Robotnik has had enough episode and would always overreact and insist he's not gay >You say that he's out of the closet -now-, but what episode past Dr. Robotnik has had ENOUGH has had him be gay? Fair point. We've not seen him explicitly show he's publicly Dingo's boyfriend, but we've just not seen that much of them at all. I'm hoping we get to see some romantic stuff in an upcoming episode >>3039 Yeah, I completely agree with this. He keeps Dingo around for his strength (and because he's eye candy), but keeps Sleet around because Dingo listens to him and can keep him on task >>3052 The mysterious Tamers123456 has appeared in the credits of a few episodes. On one hand there's more than a few spelling errors in the credits, on the other it's clearly a coded message about the 6th ranger Tommy >>3058 I'm on the 3rd season now and am really enjoying it. Alois was a lot of fun (and basically Tamers' Knuckles), but Grell is my favorite >Bartleby really is just like Sebastian. He 100% is. Hyper-competent, fancy, evil, and obsessed with a short nobleman that needs his help for pretty much anything >>3069 Looks like he took it down immediately since he wanted it to be a premiere, not an immediate release >>3075 I use the RSS feed of Tamers' channel to get notified when a new video is out. If anyone else wants to use RSS feeds to keep up with YouTube channels, I use the browser extension FeedBro. You can post a link to the server if you like, it's not against the rules here >>3077 I hope we get more BraeMac!
>>3078 >You can post a link to the server if you like, it's not against the rules here Eh, I don't want to shill or possibly flood the place. It's on disboard if anyone is interested. >Looks like he took it down immediately since he wanted it to be a premiere, not an immediate release the first one was a premier too, the first two times he uploaded some group called zooland_music claimed the music or something. I don't know who they are but a google search found a video from like 13 years ago with comments all complaining they claimed music from their videos.
>>3079 >Eh, I don't want to shill or possibly flood the place. It's on disboard if anyone is interested. Fair enough, I was just mentioning it since it you can get your posts deleted for mentioning discord on 4chan >the first one was a premier too, the first two times he uploaded some group called zooland_music claimed the music or something. I don't know who they are but a google search found a video from like 13 years ago with comments all complaining they claimed music from their videos. There's a whole ecosystem of copyright squatters that claim music that they probably don't even hold the rights to. Most YouTubers don't contest since it can lead to a strike on their channel. Some guy registered the Samsung washing machine chime and had been making bank off of streamers that had their washing machine finish during a stream https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/05/washing-machine-chime-scandal-shows-how-absurd-youtube-copyright-abuse-can-get/
>>3082 I'd never seen that washing machine story but I assumed it was something simalar since I can't find any record of the actual group claiming the music just similar sounding ones. They probably just claimed a bunch of random old music.
>>3085 Baldroy - Mindy's dad Claude - Bartleby's dad Hannah - Bartleby's mom Soma - Sonia (he's optimistic, likes hanging out with Ciel, and is completely useless) Agni - Affectionate boyfriend Knux Alois - Psycho twink Knux Grell - Red Manic Yana Toboso - Tamers
>>3093 >How could I forget? Prince Albert - (you Anon!) Actually that makes a lot of sense since I figure the hedgehogs' father isn't a reigning king, but a royal consort/prince >Another possibility, Soma/Agni - Jared/Raphi, Grell - Mandy Those could work too >>3094 If the mods would just do their job and ban Carlos and the one or two other funposters, the 4/co/ threads would improve massively. Carlos and IDWkun (4/co/ janny and Sonic thread schizo) have already been banned from here
>>3098 The carlos one actually blows my mind. I mean, he has OPENLY admitted to be underage on multiple occasions, even in some of the earlier threads, and yet was never banned? I'm starting to believe the theory that jannies groomed him.
>>3039 My problem with that scene wasn't about Robotnik's feeling on Sleet and Dingo, it was more that Sleet not only felt that his praise was worth anything, but it was something to hang over Dingo's head >>3078 >Sleet's never been comfortable with public displays of affection Yeah both artists have done those scenes where Sleet gets mad at Dingo being flirty, but only one of them has shown them being intimate when they're by themselves Like, imagine a 2x2 grid, with the columns labeled Artist 1 and Artist 2, and the rows labeled Rejects Homosexuality and Displays Homosexuality. Artist 2's column would have examples of both while Artist 1's Displays Homosexuality box would be blank. >I'm hoping we get to see some romantic stuff in an upcoming episode Don't get your hopes up for anything soon, the Sleengo artist seems to be focusing on MLP episodes for the time being, but hopefully he doesn't just stick to that.
Well that was an interesting episode. I wish we got some BraeMac, but I still enjoyed the episode and thought the Pinkie X Dash ship was cute. Good for Tamers calling out the weirdos that are obsessed with his personal lives >>3100 It's public knowledge the mods hold ERP sessions on IRC so I wouldn't be surprised >>3101 >My problem with that scene wasn't about Robotnik's feeling on Sleet and Dingo, it was more that Sleet not only felt that his praise was worth anything, but it was something to hang over Dingo's head I saw it more as Sleet being competitive with Dingo, since it's clear he only fears, but doesn't actually respect Robotnik >>3101 >Artist 2's column would have examples of both while Artist 1's Displays Homosexuality box would be blank. Yeah, we haven't seen any Sleengo content in artstyle 1 >Don't get your hopes up for anything soon, the Sleengo artist seems to be focusing on MLP episodes for the time being, but hopefully he doesn't just stick to that. Sleengo Sleengo, please domingo!
>>3098 And what a shock, the /co thread sucks fucking balls once again, though admittedly better than the thread for the other pony episode though. I’m cracking up at the anti-Sleengo poster when no one even bought them up
>>3125 well actually someone asked why Tamers (Artist 2) was focusing on MLP instead of something with Uncle Chuck/Robotnik/Sleet/Dingo, and I said my schizo theory, so it isn't like there isn't a reason for him to also schizo out
>>3125 I sometimes wonder if that anti-Sleengo schizo is IDWkun. He'd been plaguing our daily Sonic storytime threads for years on 4/co/ and became creepily fixated with me. Now that we just post on plus4chan (where he's banned), the Tamers threads are all that's left
>>3129 I emailed the admin after each of them started shitting up the threads here and he banned them. Unlike 4chan, this site's staff actually take an interest and are willing to interact with the users. As for proof, you'll notice Carlos doesn't post in this thread anymore
>>3132 For the record, "IDWkun" is also the "sleengofags absolutely BTFO" guy, right? in my most paranoid thoughts, I wondered if that guy was Artist 1, getting mad that what I was saying, because I don't think he started posting that picture until after I freaked out about the last Christmas episode
>>3133 Yeah, that's what I think. His writing style's extremely similar but that's not much proof >spoiler Assuming there are two artists, and not two artstyles, I doubt either of them would hate on Sleengo enjoyers. He uses Sleengo as a tag on his Patreon and has reacted positively when I've gushed about how cute the ship is
>>3134 >I doubt either of them would hate on Sleengo enjoyers. The comment about "not knowing" what Sleengo is and the removal of tags makes me think one of them does >He uses Sleengo as a tag on his Patreon and has reacted positively when I've gushed about how cute the ship is Shared access to the account would explain that
7/10 episode most of the jokes were funny and for being mlp themed it could had been a lot worse. Can Tamers add Moral Orel characters to his videos I think they would fit right in
When do you guys think we’re gonna have the crossover with the crayons from The Hero of Color City? Knowing Tamers it might be next episode, might be years
Now that Tamers has mentioned that church in his video, I can finally post these clips from Cybershell's video. I genuinely think this guy is a chode for going on about how no one knows who Tamers is, while showing the one clip of Tamers in front of an identifiable landmark, and then going on to say he doesn't think Tamers would mind if he were doxed. And to think I actually used to like his content back in the day
The unlisted video is here if anyone wants to see a Sonictuber regurgitate thoughts and opinions shared by myself and other anons in the 4/co/ threads: A Look at Tamers12345
>>3136 If there are two of them, I do hope they get along even if they have creative differences >>3141 >crayons from The Hero of Color City What crayons? I didn't see any singing crayons in the Star Wars vid and neither did you
>>3153 That video sucked dick. It really did feel like he was trying to nudge people into looking deeper than they should. Also, it really was just a recap of /co/ threads lol. I remember hearing he was making the video and while being hesitant still wanted to see what he had to say, just to see he was literally just repeating shit me and other anons were saying in the summer camp threads word for word. Lost a lot of respect for him from that. Worse than just reading of wiki articles.
>>3159 I 100% agree and I'm relieved others see it that way too. Yeah, he was totally trying to get his fans to find out who Tamers is for him when every true SU fan knows it doesn't matter. >he was literally just repeating shit me and other anons were saying in the summer camp threads word for word I would have been one of the other anons you were talking to in the summer camp thread because I remember having those conversations. I was hesitant to watch the video too and was kinda creeped out having my own words read back to me by someone whose content I actually liked. I remember talking to an anon in one of the threads about exactly why I liked Tamers' humor and even described it using that Bardonic corn fart clip: >>>/4chan/co/124387140 >Lost a lot of respect for him from that I actually stopped watching his videos after that and I'd been watching for over a decade
>>3153 No, nothing in the Star Wars vid iirc. Bartleby did mention the crayola crayons in Goodwill though, hoping that the SU cast wouldn’t be mistaken for the cast of The Hero of Color City
>>3166 Apparently some anons think there's singing crayons when Manic pummels Sonic's butt with rocks, but as you can see from this clip, nothing like that happens. >Bartleby did mention the crayola crayons in Goodwill though That must be where they're getting their wires crossed
>>3153 >spoiler This Sleengo stuff is the only stuff that there seems to be any conflict about, so it could be 1. They get along just fine, but Artist 1 draws the line at Sleengo for some reason 2. Artist 1 is controlling of everything, including Sleengo, but Sleengo's the one thing that Artist 2 actually pushed back on Artist 1 controlling.
>>3133 I was sad to see the boys move back with Robotnik too. However, becoming Robotnik’s henchmen again gives them more opportunities to appear in episodes. I’m actually looking forward to seeing more of the Divine Warrior and his sidekicks, it’s consistent with Sleet and Dingo trying not to be evil anymore.
>>3245 >becoming Robotnik's henchmen again gives them more opportunities to appear in episodes You're right, but they could have shown up in episodes just fine without being Robotnik's lackeys. Though I did think for a minute that they would be Robotnik's rivals, with how they were treated in that 4th of July episode >I’m actually looking forward to seeing more of the Divine Warrior and his sidekicks, it’s consistent with Sleet and Dingo trying not to be evil anymore. Yeah I'm honestly glad they haven't been forced to be evil again, that would have felt like such a stab in the back
>>3273 Rivals would have been interesting too. If anything the Divine Warrior plot gives Robotnik something to do. He’s always had an interesting relationship with the Hedgehogs he’ll actively harass them but they’re also on good enough terms to be invited to holidays. Personally I really enjoy the Hedgehog/Robotnik outings like the Bowling or Arcade episodes.
It's been bugging me about just what it is about Sebastian's face that reminds me of Bartleby and I've finally found the answer. He's got the mustache lips! >>3177 I try not to speculate on behind the scenes stuff, but if there really are two artists, the first is ultimately in charge and can veto artist 2's Sleengo plans. It would make sense that they're treating the MLP stuff as an equal partnership >>3245 >I was sad to see the boys move back with Robotnik too. Strangely, I don't mind that so long as they're treated more like equals than minions >>3275 >Personally I really enjoy the Hedgehog/Robotnik outings like the Bowling or Arcade episodes. Same. I wouldn't mind if Sleet and Dingo were just another pair of people the Hedgehogs invite to things, and that they end up being competitive with Robotnik over games and other low stakes things >Divine Warrior and his sidekicks I really like the idea that they'll try and be superheros, but be absolutely terrible at it >>3326 >Maybe Prince Soma is Sonia Yet more evidence Tamers and Yana Toboso are the same person! >Man I can’t believe I let people talk me out of watching season 3 back in the day, I gave it a watch and it was bitchin Just finished watching it for the first time and it's really good. I liked all the circus characters, but was sad that they were killed off. Kelvin was a monster, but I don't feel I properly understood his character. I get he was obsessed with the Phantomhives and their cool evil noblemen lifestyle, and decided to be an evil nobleman too, and to get plastic surgery to be handsome too. The rest of his plot just seemed like madness, although maybe that was the point
>>3328 >but if there really are two artists, the first is ultimately in charge and can veto artist 2's Sleengo plans. Which would be bullshit, considering both of them have been working on the channel for so damn long >It would make sense that they're treating the MLP stuff as an equal partnership What parts do you think are made by Artist 1? All I see is Artist 2
>>3328 I think you might be on to something, Black Butler and Sonic Underground have shockingly similar writing.
Especially the way characters will be revived with zero explanation in between seasons and you just have to go with it. Poor Ciel just can’t get rid of Lau and his bitch lmao. Of course there’s the balance between serious drama and perverted humor. Grell Sutcliff is written like a Tamer’s character, probably why he’s so fun to watch. Iirc Ciel called him a poof in the Alice in Wonderland special. Prince Soma is Tamersesque too, I crack up every time he tries to be involved in the plot but Ciel dismisses him. Alois hardly needs explaining, he’d fit right in with the SU cast.
>>3329 >Which would be bullshit, considering both of them have been working on the channel for so damn long Assuming there are two, the first does 90% of the content and artist 2 just does the occasional Sleengo video or some scenes in the regular episodes. For the back to back Christmas episodes, I saw the second artist doing almost all of the Santa episode, and the first doing most of the Polar Express episode >What parts do you think are made by Artist 1? All I see is Artist 2 The choice of the end credits music, obviously! I kinda figured they were both writing it, but MLP might end up a sub-series that Artist 2 runs >>3330 >I think you might be on to something, Black Butler and Sonic Underground have shockingly similar writing. It feels just like watching a Tamers vid, I'm absolutely hooked! At this point, the next time someone on 4/co/ asks who Tamers really is I'll be telling them it's Yana Toboso >spoiler Lau dying and Ciel turning into a demon only for none of it to count was absolutely hilarious. It was just like Raphi and his legs. Grell's easily my favorite, he's so horny, violent and obsessive! >Iirc Ciel called him a poof lmao, I'll need to watch that! >Prince Soma I love that he's completely oblivious to all the evil stuff going on and tries to be a good friend to Ciel despite the rejections >Alois If I hadn't watched Black Butler and he were introduced, I'd assume he were one. The way he switches between innocent child and perverted psycho is just like Knuckles. Now that I think of it, he probably got the idea for background characters being psycho perverts from Black Butler
>>3347 > It’s the characters that are both psychotic and sympathetic That explains it perfectly. They're strangely relatable too. Between disemboweling people with a chainsaw, Grell's just a guy that's fallen in love with a guy that can't love him back but is still trying in vain to impress him >spoiler Yeah, ultimately Alois just wanted someone to love and protect him, but ended up betrayed. Still, he did get the last laugh, being reunited with his brother, Claude dead, and Sebastian forever denied Ciel's soul
Yeah, I was half-expecting Victoria to say "btw Ciel, I'm no longer evil, and no longer dead, so get back to work!"
I've watched the Book of Murder so far and really liked it. I love murder mysteries and Arthur Conan Doyle so it was a real treat
>>3333 It’s the characters that are both psychotic and sympathetic Man the maze scene with Sebastian and Claude at the end of season 2 is heartbreaking. Just like Ciel/Sebastian, Alois really put all of his faith in Claude.
> It was just like Raphi and his legs.
Also the entire Victoria/Ash Landers plot being rewritten so Ciel still has missions to go on.
If you already watch the first 3 seasons then be sure to check out the OVAS. Personally I’m going to rewatch them before I check out season 4.
>>3333 >the first does 90% of the content and artist 2 just does the occasional Sleengo video or some scenes in the regular episodes. Maybe nowadays, but the channel used to have both of them making tons of videos and collaborating on the same videos until like 2022 >For the back to back Christmas episodes, I saw the second artist doing almost all of the Santa episode, and the first doing most of the Polar Express episode no, Sonic Saves Christmas was purely Artist 2 and Polar Express was purely Artist 1 > I kinda figured they were both writing it, but MLP might end up a sub-series that Artist 2 runs It seems to be 100% Artist 2, yeah
>>3364 >Maybe nowadays, but the channel used to have both of them making tons of videos and collaborating on the same videos until like 2022 If there are two of them, my guess is artist 2 had been gradually stepping back for a while, but is now planning on heading the MLP sub-series >no, Sonic Saves Christmas was purely Artist 2 and Polar Express was purely Artist 1 Yeah, that's what I meant. I messed up my wording there >It seems to be 100% Artist 2, yeah I think this is probably for the best. It allows each full creative freedom of their own world while still allowing for crossovers. That it prevents 4/co/ from talking about half the content is a hilarious bonus
Remember when Dingo ran around the bowling alley naked because he thought he wasn’t allowed to wear his uniform anymore? I was thinking on it, Dingo being indecent in public is probably a regular occurrence. He already doesn’t wear a shirt half the time, and his pants slide down his legs quite a bit too. Also Dingo’s bowling uniform is kinda sexy, I like how he cut off the sleeves on his shirt.
Also I liked that Sleet tried to apologize to Dingo when he pushed him too far and told him to leave. It shows they had mutual affection for each other even all the way back in their debut episode.
>>3368 The way he came back after long absences with the Strawberry ED and Dr. Robotnik has had ENOUGH makes me think those were pushes for him to get back into making stuff for the channel, so I don't know about this talk about him stepping back (also, fun fact, on the Patreon post for the Strawberry ED, the picture of Sleet and Dingo walking together like huge faggots has the filename "2.png", suggesting it was one of, if not THE, first things he worked on in that ED) >it allows each full creative freedom of their own world They both started the Tamers12345 channel/persona together and maintained it for a decade, so it feels pretty bad to say it belongs solely to one or the other >while still allowing for crossovers It's only been two episodes, but I have a feeling that there won't be any crossovers outside of the first episode using the SUverse to ease people into the setting Hope I'm wrong about all of these paranoid thoughts, though, and we see Sleet and Dingo get isekai'd into the MLPverse to learn how to be gayer thanks to BraeMac, or some shit
>>3385 Oh man, the bowling episode's still one of my favorites. Having Robotnik return from his apparent death at the end of the original cartoon just to challenge Sonic to a bowling match was absolute kino. Yeah, Dingo's always wearing less clothing than Sleet, not that Sleet's complaining! He's also got that Bartleby thing going on where either his clothes get torn off or he tares them off himself. >spoiler Same! My favorite is the crop top and booty shorts he wears in the roller skating episode, wew! Yeah, they may bicker and hurt each other's feelings but they ultimately like each other despite their differences >>3395 >The way he came back after long absences with the Strawberry ED Yeah, I can see that being the case >They both started the Tamers12345 channel/persona together and maintained it for a decade, so it feels pretty bad to say it belongs solely to one or the other One second reading, it does sound like I was saying artist 2 wouldn't be working on the main videos anymore. What I meant was (and assuming there are two artists) while they agree on almost everything, there seemed to be friction on where to take Sleet and Dingo's characters. The MLP sub-series allows for artist 2-themed episodes while keeping the existing arrangement for the SU episodes >I have a feeling that there won't be any crossovers I wouldn't mind if it just ends up its own thing, although Tamers did say in the comments that they're all part of the same world >Sleet and Dingo get isekai'd into the MLPverse to learn how to be gayer thanks to BraeMac lmao, that'd be absolutely perfect!
The climax scene with Viscount of Druitt was the most Tamersesque scene outside of Tamers that I’ve ever watched. Druitt of all people becoming an important character, everyone going back and forth on rather or not they should just kill him, the machine not even working after his whole monologue. Then the Undertaker going out of his way fight everyone because he enjoys the Viscount’s antics too much to let him die. Kino, I was cracking up just like the Undertaker while watching. Also the grim reapers getting chewed out by Will in the lifeboat was very Tamersesque. It reminded me of Sleet and Dingo taking Robotnik to Little Caesar’s after the fight with Trevor and Cyrus. Also, Grell was super cute in this, too bad his romantic cruise got interrupted.
Just finished season 1 of MLP and while it's not exactly my thing, it's very enjoyable and I can see why it became so popular. The animation and voice acting's great, and the backgrounds remind me of The Last Unicorn. The songs were a lot of fun, especially the one in The Show Stoppers. For those that don't have the time to watch the full season, I've compiled all the most important clips in vid related. >>3441 Oh man, I loved that Titanic scene! They both know that thousands are going to die, but for Grell it's just another opportunity to have some fun. 100% agree, if you replaced the voices with TTS and animation with MS paint I wouldn't have known it wasn't an episode of SU. It's that combination of smug monologuing with everything going off the rails that really nails the Tamers aesthetic. That and the contrast between how the Tamers-esque characters (Sebastian, Ciel, Grell) don't even recognize things are going off the rails and the normal characters (Viscount) sheer confusion just adds to the comedy >Also the grim reapers getting chewed out by Will in the lifeboat was very Tamersesque. Yeah, I love that they've got the same dynamics in that their boss is the straight man in their comedy act but actually really bizarre himself. It's interesting how Grell and Ronald are only nominally loyal to their boss, in that they sort of do what they're told so long as they get to have some fun. I'd like to see more of that happen with Sleet and Dingo >Grell was super cute in this, too bad his romantic cruise got interrupted. He was! I don't think he minded though since all the violence and getting to see Sebast-chan bleed is probably his idea of a perfect date
>>3506 HM Victoria always employing albinos, I think she might have a type. They are pretty sexy
I hope you’re watching the school arc, get ready for Machiavellian Ciel teaching bitches not to fuck with him. Also get ready for more Tamersesque antics, especially the cricket tournament. If you know, you know.
>>3510 >I think she might have a type She's got excellent taste! I'm reminded of Robotnik's speech in the Sleet and Dingo origins video where he wanted two identical hot guys as bodyguards to stand either side of him
>I hope you’re watching the school arc I've only watched the first episode so far, but Sebastian's antics already have me hooked!
>>3604 Personally I think Manic suits wearing more accessories in general and would look great with an industrial piercing >>3605 Tamers has only ever drawn them in his comics so that's probably the reason. For an in-universe explanation: No one Can Stop Bartleby From Stealing Tomatoes From Sonic The Hedgehog's Farm >He got annoyed with taking them on and off everyday. The same reason the hedgehogs don't always wear their medallions these days.
>>3611 >so that's probably the reason. It definitely is. People wonder how Tamers can get videos out so quickly but it's because he's absolutely optimized his work flow. Take a look at older videos like Cereal Crisis or Basket Ball battle and you'll see that for a period of time he'd animate characters occasionally blinking or actually lip syncing their lines. Over time he cut out what wasn't completely necessary in the process and now he's able to make lengthy videos in short periods of time. It's also why characters will have unique outfits from episode to episode but they'll still be relatively simple in design, or characters with accessories won't have them in his videos like Manic and Dingo's piercings, less to draw saves a lot of time in the long run.
>>3616 I understand that, and I don’t blame him. If he did decide to do it again I’d be fine if it was something he selectively drew like Dingo’s glasses.
>>3611 Cute Manic! I’m going to head canon that his piercing healed after not wearing his earrings and he’s just too embarrassed to ask him mom to get it done again.
Another idea for an episode/subplot, having Manic try to repierce them by himself, or get Mindy to do it for him like in Grease.
I’d just like to see more rebellious Manic in general, he is the bad boy of the group after all. Especially with his best friend Knux and girlfriend Mindy, a lot of potential. They seem like the types to pool their pocket change together for $5 hot and ready, and then shoplift a 2L soda from Dollar General to go with it.
>>3616 Well said! It's fascinating to see Tamers progress as an animator, stripping away everything that adds time but doesn't directly contribute to the story. If you watch his absolute earliest videos he'd draw all the backgrounds but now almost always uses stock photos instead (although he did draw a background for the school bus episode) >It's also why characters will have unique outfits from episode to episode but they'll still be relatively simple in design He's got a real eye for fashion, putting together outfits that are simple to animate, but are well coordinated and match the characters' personalities and circumstances. They don't always wear them at the same time, but Sonic and Manic have hooded jackets in different colors that Aleena probably bought when they were on sale, but Sonia always gets higher quality clothing since she's the favorite >>3617 >Cute Manic! Erorollz does some great Manics, as does princszricekake (although you'll find more of both their drawings on their inkbunny accounts). >having Manic try to repierce them by himself I could see that being fun, especially if Aleena reacts badly or they mess up and he has to go to the ER >I’d just like to see more rebellious Manic in general Same. He's taken more of a cool kid zoomer role than the rebellious thief that's trying to go straight. Manic used to be much more prominent in Tamers' work, being the most important character after Sonic and Bartleby, but that role seems to have been by Knux >that image Oh man, I love Lord Kiyo's art so much! He's seriously one of my favorite artists, and not just because he draws great anthro twinks. We actually storytimed one of his comics a while back: https://the-ride.neocities.org/threads/136428492
I wasn’t sure about the new setting, I was afraid it might hold Ciel back but it did not disappoint.
All of the prefects have their own personal bitches lmao, and ever their personal bitches have personal bitches. Obviously Edgar Redmond’s design is influenced by Bartleby MontClair of Dresden, needless to say.
Casual arson, I expect no less from my boy. I assume such extreme measures were taken because he was tired of that school and wanted to go home.
Good to see Lau and his bitch survived the sinking ship, or maybe they didn’t but got revived anyway. In any case, he really pulled through for Ciel in the cricket tournament. Speaking of the tournament, well it hardly needs any explaining. Obviously inspired by Sonic Underground.
Also, I appreciate the BigMac/Braeburn ending even more now!
>>3136 >The comment about "not knowing" what Sleengo is and the removal of tags I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if he did those things out of some autistic spite. Like in a "There can only be one" sort of way. He was already making jokes how Sleengo is bootleg Bardonic, so when the ship actually gained traction could have taken it as a personal threat to Bardonic itself. Which is why they're so toxic as fuck right now.
>>3654 Idk about that because here’s the thing. Sleengo’s been a popular ship for years now, you can look at older archived threads. If he was upset at the ship being popular, I doubt he would have made two episodes focused on Sleengo.
Arguably Sleengo has been in development since their debut in the bowling episode. Sleet went from yelling at Dingo in public, to the Sonic saves Christmas episode where he’s much more reasonable expressing himself to Dingo. They definitely were at a low point in their relationship when moving away didn’t work out. But they seem to be getting along again in their recent appearances. At the end of the day, I trust whatever Tamers has planned for these two.
one question I've had for years now but never seen mentioned is "who the hell is TheXfactorUK142 and fulldiZZikanald?" I've always been curious about this and I'm wondering if anyone here would have any info on it.
>>3687 I'm pretty sure Tamers had a group of friends at one point as I pretty sure that in the Sonic poops dango video we see that he had friends in his youtube pms .
>>3687 >TheXfactorUK142 I'm not sure about the 142, but I'm guessing it's The X factor UK https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_X_Factor_(British_TV_series) >fulldiZZikanald Full diZZi (soap opera in Turkish) Kanal D (some sort of Turkish streaming service, could be a piracy thing) As for why Tamers is mentioning them, I have no idea. He did put in a bunch of SEO-related jokes into the metadata of his videos a while back
>>3696 Search Engine Optimization. It's about trying to get your content up to the top of search engines and getting your videos recommended by YouTube
>>3712 I absolutely love their interactions, it's so cute and messed up! I was kinda hoping Pa would've stayed dead and Sarah had stayed gone so we could get more cute Redneck x Terrorist moments
I was watching some season 1 SU episodes, had to made sure I watched the Roman one this time. I like how Dingo’s hair is styled like a Corinthian helmet!
If you haven’t watched the original Sonic Underground you should, if anything I think we all owe it to Tamers. It’s wild how Sonic’s eating disorder isn’t really that exaggerated by Tamers. He takes every chance he gets to eat fucking chili dogs
>>3916 It's a really great episode! One of the things that surprised me about the original show is just how much it makes use of continuity. In addition to the multi-part episodes, characters will reference similar situations from previous episodes and there are a heap of reoccurring characters >I like how Dingo’s hair is styled like a Corinthian helmet! It's so cute! And they even remembered not to give him a robot foot! >It’s wild how Sonic’s eating disorder isn’t really that exaggerated by Tamers. He takes every chance he gets to eat fucking chili dogs Later on in the show they go to a parallel Mobius and Sonic's an obese hedonist that can't run fast anymore. I'm almost certain that's where Tamers got his characterization from
>>4002 >The cast of SU do a civil war reenactment >everyone wants to be on the south the video ends with the south winnig >Sonia keeps telling Knuckles facts about the confederacy
I swear to God Tamers has ruined TTS for me. I'm watching this video about a hypothetical EF6 scenario and they used a TTS voice for the news caster. All I can imagine while he's talking about this swirling column of megadeath is that he has a big shitty ass and a stupid face. I can't stop laughing.
>>4024 It’s kind of the opposite for me. Tamers fixed tts voices for me because I now associate them with the SU cast instead of grounded grounded grounded videos
Man three hunks in one frame, SU is spoiling me! The politics of Mobius are actually very well written. It’s interesting how many characters, despite not being particularly fond of Robotnik, are willing to go along with the regime change for their own various reasons. It feels realistic. Robotnik really does make Sleet and Dingo do everything, he doesn’t seem to do that much work despite being the main villain.
>>4005 I could see Sleet and Dingo complaining that they couldn't wear their confederacy uniforms (because you just know they're already into civil war re-enactments), but Robotnik's gloating since being on the union side guarantees their victory. The confederacy would be about to win when Bartleby enters the field on his own team with his bitch, immediately winning >>4024 I had an in-car gps that used Aleena's voice. It was really hard not to laugh at every direction >>4094 >Robotnik really does make Sleet and Dingo do everything Yeah, after conscripting them in the first episode, he's had them cracking down on potential rebellions, acting as his personal butlers, collecting taxes, organizing parties, hunting down the triplets, running archeological digs, and even finding lost continents. Tamers is 100% accurate in having them be Robotnik's bitch >he doesn’t seem to do that much work despite being the main villain. Underground Robotnik's in a really interesting position, since he's taken over Mobius (like in SatAM), but his grip's pretty tenuous and requires the aristocracy's continuing support (and money). He's always keeping them on their toes since while he knows some of them are funding the resistance, if more did he'd lose his grip on power. Instead of running things personally, he ends up spending a lot of time forcing the aristocrats to attend social functions with him
One thing I don't see mentioned often is that Underground can be read as a post-apocalyptic continuation of SatAM set centuries later. There's little hints here and there that their tech used to be much more advanced, but that everything was wiped out in a global war. Very little of anything from before this time survives, although we do see a statue of King Acorn being torn down in the opening credits. The idea is the royal hedgehog line are the direct descendants of SatAM's Sonic and Sally, who defeated the original Robotnik in that global war that wiped everything out.
On that subject, the Boom games were also supposed to be a post-apocalyptic continuation of the original games, with the ancients being the original cast. Of course Sega wasn't happy about that, so almost everything referencing it was removed. It's the real reason why Lyric (evil snake that was imprisoned for thousands of years by the ancients) specifically hates Sonic and friends, and also why there are giant statues of an older male hedgehog and echidna striking heroic poses
>>4103 > Instead of running things personally, he ends up spending a lot of time forcing the aristocrats to attend social functions with him
Reminds me of 17th century court politics. Nobility can’t plot against you if they are constantly obligated to attend social gatherings. Robotnik must of studied Louis XIV and Versailles. Though I have to imagine the more intimate ceremonies, such as “dressing the king’” are left to Sleet and Dingo.
>>4110 That's it exactly! I knew it was a strategy from history but couldn't place it. >I have to imagine the more intimate ceremonies, such as “dressing the king’” are left to Sleet and Dingo. lmao, it's good to be the king! >>4123 It could work either way, considering both are post-apocalyptic, but I wouldn't want it to be an immediate sequel since it would raise questions on why SatAM Sonic isn't royalty, where his siblings went, and why Bartleby didn't save the day >>4133 The creators of South Park (I know it's a shadow of its former self, but they did offend pretty much everyone back in the day) were asked the same thing and it comes down to never backing down and always continuing to push the boundary. They worked under the assumption that each season would be their last and tried to go out with a bang each time. If you give even an inch, and even acknowledge that people are trying to cancel you, you're done. It's why the Nostalgia Critic and the Internet Historian survived their respective cancellations but others did not
As for Tamers, anyone trying to cancel him would have to explain why they have an issue with a small time neurodivergent animator that produces queer content. Also, it helps that anyone starting shit would be doxed themselves. Tamers fans doxed Carlos, and all he did was shit up our threads
>>4152 > As for Tamers, anyone trying to cancel him would have to explain why they have an issue with a small time neurodivergent animator that produces queer content. Also, it helps that anyone starting shit would be doxed themselves. Tamers fans doxed Carlos, and all he did was shit up our threads
He really strikes a great balance. His content is edgy and vulgar enough to keep most normies away, and homoerotic enough to keep most pol fags away.
>>4152 > That's it exactly! I knew it was a strategy from history but couldn't place it. It was a romantic period of history. Louis XIV is kind of like a human version of Bartleby. Elegant, ambitious, iron-fisted, exercised absolute authority. French court rituals established by Louis at Versailles kept the nobility in line. Even helping the king getting out of bed, putting on his stockings, were responsibilities held by nobles.
All of that to say, Robotnik constantly holding social events to keep an eye on the nobility is in line with history.
Absolutely loved the latest episode. As an anon said, Braeburn potentially breaking up with Big Bac and dating Soarin is a first for the Tamerseverse. Until now, couples have at most broken up temporarily
Oh, and fun fact: Setting the mp4 encoding presets really shrinks the filesize of these without compromising the quality
>>4298 I really hate how hot it is when Celestia calls Twilight her "Little poopy pony" I don't know what it is. I shouldn't like it! He knocked it out of the park as always.
So a post on /mlp/ mentioned the first BraeMac AMV was altered from the original video (Heart Attack - Braeburn X Soarin) so I've spliced the two together for a comparison and it turns out they're totally right! The Soarin/SoarBurn parts are completely removed. Just what is Tamers planning?
>>4640 I doubt he’d touch modern sonic stuff, especially beyond the first chapter of a fanfiction. Which raises the question, how did you even find this? Were you reading modern Sonic smut? LMAO
>>4649 I mean it's possible Tamers saw the Aleena tag and wanted then to take it down. Also we are fans of a series where a gay mink have sex with his hedgehog boyfriend on screen I don't think you should question what I am into then.
>>4691 I'm not 100% convinced it's him, but he's only played the classic games. I'm pretty sure he had them on his playstation account. He also did a video on why Sonic Frontiers sucks, but made clear he didn't even watch the trailer Interestingly, he's willing to admit he uses TTS for the voices now. Before he would claim that the original actors were doing the voices
>>4694 I am pretty sure that Tamers used to comment on old Sonic videos mainly one remixing songs from the classic era as that is how I found out about him. I think he deleted then once he started making animations.
>>4688 >posted in 2024 Heavy doubt that’s Tamers, it’s way to easy for someone to make an account resembling Tamers and comment on posts . Or maybe it is him, I don’t know honesty, the username just sounds a bit too on the nose compared to his old Deviantart account names when he was ban-evading.
>>4694 >he’s only played the classic games I swear I remember he mentioned playing one of the Sonic All Star Racing games on the Wii due to the fact that a developer used a picture of Sonia fan-art on one of the stages until they patched it out in the HD console versions.
>>4694 I don’t think it’s him but I guess it’s notable the comments mention “Mark,” I believe Tamers came up with his name because he’s just “Mr. Latour” in the show.
>>4723 I don't see Tamers calling him Mark outside of his own videos so I do think this is just someone trying hard to pretend to be him. Mark was a name tamers himself made up, he's always called him Mr. Latour as he's referred to in the show outside of his videos.
-Twilight - Amber -Celestia - Ava Multilingual -Rarity - Emma -Rainbow Dash - Sara -Pinkie Pie, Apple Bloom, Scootaloo, Sweetie Belle - Ana Big Mac - Davis Braeburn - Brandon Soarin - Brian Blaze - Torvi
>>4723 Actually I think that Tamers called Mindy's dad Mark in his SU quiz he made. Something that is also notable is how Amy is called Rosy the Rascal and how Fang is called Nack.
>>4697 He's mentioned Tails before, since people keep bringing him up in the comments, but I doubt he knows characters like Nack or the Chaotix >>4715 I'm inclined to agree. They did nail his old writing style though >>4719 Impressive he was able to subject himself to a Modern Sonic game >>4729 Nice! I think Braeburn's voice is also used for Raphi. Good to see you around here! I've not made much progress on archiving the threads. My archival code works assuming you have a thread number, but I'm having to write something to interface with desuarchive's search api so I can find every thread that mentions one of the video urls or Sonic Underground in general
>>4734 To be honest, it’s pretty annoying when I’m trying to find threads for old episodes and they don’t put “Tamers” or “Sonic Underground” in the title. It’s really cool your working on archiving them!
>>4734 I've been posting in here for awhile now, just don't bother using a name unless I've got something worth sharing. I use 4chan X and currently have 64 tamers threads saved in my thread watcher starting back in April '23 with the chili cook off. Wish I'd thought try and keep track of them sooner.
>>4740 Personally, I just think it's someone playing pretend. It wouldn't be the first time someone has pretended to be him/taken his name on something.
>>4741 The thing that proves that it is someone playing pretend at least to me is the fact that someone that seems to be acting like Mariotehplumber committed on the same fanfic.
>>4735 That was exactly my problem! I figure any thread has to at least mention the current video somewhere in it so that's probably the easiest way to find the threads >It’s really cool your working on archiving them! Thanks! >>4737 We've had Carlos and another guy pretend to be the real Tamers, so it's not out of the question. It could also just be a fan having a little fun >>4739 Name or not, it's good to see you and other anons are using this site. 4chan X has so many quality of life improvements I couldn't go back to vanilla. I also use a captcha solving userscript, which makes posting much less of a hassle https://github.com/drunohazarb/4chan-captcha-solver/blob/master/4chan-captcha-solver.user.js >Wish I'd thought try and keep track of them sooner. Same
>>4744 some really old troll in the sonic community that made videos like a decade ago (I guess he still uploads now but he's long past relevant) some retard who is obsessed with tamers is also obsessed with mariotehplumber. If I had to guess, it's probably this guy. Saw he commented on tamers channel once and is now autistically trying to tie the two together.
>>4747 > I figure any thread has to at least mention the current video somewhere in it so that's probably the easiest way to find the threads There's some weird straggler here and there though that happen inbetween episodes so don't mention any specifically >>>/4chan/v/677209504 (this one is /v/ so idk if you're collecting ones not on /co/) >>>/4chan/co/143587618 >>>/4chan/co/138888625 just as some examples
>>4744 >>4748 He's also PreciousLeaf, the guy who more or less broke /vp/. There's a summary here: https:https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Mariotehplumber If you want more info, gossip forums like Kiwi Farms probably have more than you could ever need >Saw he commented on tamers channel once and is now autistically trying to tie the two together. Yeah,that's what I thought as well >>4750 Those should be fine so long as one post in the thread mentions Tamers, Bartleby, Sonic Underground, etc >idk if you're collecting ones not on /co/ The code works for any board, so I'll be doing /v/, /4/co/ and /mlp/ at least >>4751 Tamers just isn't interested in collaborations or YouTube drama. All he wants to do is keep making his animations
>>4753 Fake tamers plays an important role in tamers history as it was the one and only time he acknowledged someone aping his stuff. The context is needed for the video "Sonic The Hedgehog - In a Darker Room" >why is my none of my stuff in the oc part of the archive? Because you don't deserve to be remembered. Thanks for letting me know you made the sonichu image, I'll remove it.
>>4748 The idea of them ever making a video together is.literally impossible. And if you want to know the reason why it is because Tamers used to make comments on Nintega and was so annoying that he was banned within two months of posting there.
>>4752 Mariotehplumber is actually funny unlike Tamers who admitted that his character was a persona and that he actually loves Modern Sonic and only pretends to hate it.
>>4694 I remember playing the shitty Sonic 2 port on the 360 and I was in a race with Tamers and he won and that me got so angry I destroyed the chair I was sitting on. Also the reason that I know that he was Tamers was because his name had something to do with Bardonic.
>>4824 Sometime recent there was a site that had logged a shit ton of peoples messages and servers if they were in the same server as some random bot that had only been created to collect peoples info. Out of curiosity I typed in his username just to see if any of his stuff got logged and while it hadn't it showed him being in some femboy server. I looked it up, and sure enough he was in there. Hadn't sent any messages though. It would be hilarious if he's extremely anti gay and hates tamers videos because he himself is in the closet.
>>4825 I recognize that character in the server logo, it was some rage-bait TikTok account that farmed interactions while also promoting some ‘cord server so angry zoomers could filter into there. It was called meowbah or something in the same vein as that.
>>4778 A least they get banned here >>4825 That can't be him, he has a mustache! >it showed him being in some femboy server It's kinda depressing he's getting healthier online interactions on 4chan of all places >It would be hilarious if he's extremely anti gay and hates tamers videos because he himself is in the closet. I figured all the bluster about the gays was his way of coming to terms with that. Anger is one of the stages of grief after all
>>4852 This is getting a bit petty at this point, not to moralfag but stooping down to someone else’s level and reporting him as he did to tamers is a tad bit retarded.
>>4859 I was doing it because he was directly responding to Tamers, but it's probably best to not give him any attention, including talking about him here, even if he can't respond back
>>4852 >>4840 >meowbah He follows them on Twitter. They appear to be some sort of spicy femboy vtuber. Carlos also claims to be from Galicia in Spain, but is clearly from Panama >>4859 Yeah, it's more funny to see Tamers just ignore his posts >>4863 I think Hurst wanted to steer Underground to be season 3 of SatAM, but the execs wanted Sonic to be in a rock band so they could collect royalties from the songs being played once the show was syndicated. He was able to keep the general Freedom Fighter vibe though. Interestingly, Wildbrain went on to make the Doodlebops, which is essentially what they wanted Sonic Underground to be, but without the Sonic license
>>4867 >I think Hurst wanted to steer Underground to be season 3 of SatAM, but the execs wanted Sonic to be in a rock band so they could collect royalties from the songs being played once the show was syndicated. He was able to keep the general Freedom Fighter vibe though. I will always respect Ben Hurst and Pat Allee for putting their all in a show that the executives didn't even care about. I hope that somewhere in the universe Ben is looking down on Tamers and his work with a smile.
>>4630 I was thinking about the Black Butler Big Mac/Braeburn ED again, and I just realized the season 2 Black Butler ED would be perfect for Braeburn/Soarin! And the Butterfly imagery works with Soarin being a pegasus.
>>4863 I think that's moreso just a reuse of assets from his previous show rather than being an intentional reference since the animation for the first episodes were extremely rushed. But who knows, could be intentional decision.
>>4883 >>4885 I wouldn't worry about it, many of Tamer's long-term fans know his dox and no one's said anything yet. He's just a regular guy, not some cwc-tier weirdo that people would enjoy messing with. If that latest reference to the church in the mlp video is anything to go by, he's got a plan in case his details do leak
>>4871 I genuinely don't think Tamers would have continued SU if it weren't for them weaving a more complex narrative into the show than was strictly necessary. You actually feel like the triplets are making progress throughout the episodes, to the point where it does feel like they finally defeated Robotnik in the last episode, even if it wasn't the ending we wanted. >>4875 It really would! It's peaceful and almost hopeful, which you don't get to see much of in Black Butler. The OP and ED for season 4 are my favorite overall, mostly because they're so dramatic and cool.
What Tamers is doing with the BraeMac-SoarBurn love triangle has me completely hooked. The idea that Braeburn doesn't like the abusive aspect to his relationship with Big Mac, to the point where he's willing to leave him for someone who will (hopefully) treat him right is something we've never seen before. Braeburn and Big Mac clearly care for each other, but maybe that's not enough to save the relationship.
>>4888 This isn't the first time someone's set up a thread on 4/co/ or elsewhere threatening to dox Tamers, it's just without the IP count, it looks like multiple anons are agreeing with him. It's almost always just one schizo with an axe to grind and doesn't amount to anything.
Every place that talks about Tamers ends up becoming fans. Kiwi Farms moved their Tamers thread to their multimedia board, since they like his work and aren't interested in doxing him. By /cow/'s second thread on him, they were fans too: https://archive.md/GfNGf I cant see the sharty being any different
>>4895 I was talking about how they removed the IP count over on 4chan. I'll be frank, if you actually enjoy Tamers' content, trying to help dox him over there is not the way to show your support. You're responsible for most of the posts in that thread already It's ctrl+s for spoilers here
>>4890 >It really would! It's peaceful and almost hopeful, which you don't get to see much of in Black Butler. The OP and ED for season 4 are my favorite overall, mostly because they're so dramatic and cool.
I wasn’t sure about the new op at first, but it really grew on me! And it works for the temporary change of setting. I was also concerned about Ciel being confined to school, I really enjoy his missions around Victorian England. But it was actually a lot of fun to see Ciel and Sebastian participate in some petty high school drama. Obviously the writing was very Tamers influenced, especially the cricket tournament.
>>4924 I'm glad others get that >>4930 I've enjoyed all of the op and eds, but this season's songs are just so catchy and emotional! The animations are fantastic too. Yeah, I was a bit worried it'd just devolve into a petty highschool drama, and it did, but in the most fantastic way! The restricted setting was a great way to get both of them out of their comfort zones and keep them separated enough that they had to rely more on themselves. >spoiler Man, I never thought I'd find a sport like cricket interesting and suspenseful, but this was easily my favorite Ciel keikaku so far! I just loved how the Machiavellian little shit set the whole thing up so he'd look like the hero. The diarrhea pie, lady distractions and changing the weight of the ball are 100% a Tamers plot
>>4979 Why? He's not a modern character. Tamers played the classic games, and has even watched SatAM and AOSTH. The only reason Tails isn't in his videos is because he didn't exist in Sonic Underground, which is the only Sonic media he still cares about. There's a comment somewhere where he said the other two shows were fine, and he doesn't hate the fans of them since it's still "classic sonic" but there's no reason to give a shit about them because they pale in comparison to SU.
>>4980 While all that’s true, I could see him growing resentful of Tails from all the annoying “You should add Tails.” “Where’s Tails?” comments. I don’t see as many these days, but I could see them returning to some extent. He’s getting new fans from the pony episodes that probably aren’t yet aware his Sonic content is exclusively Sonic underground. That said I hope the new fans from the pony episodes give his other episodes a chance.
I’m actually curious, how would Tails even work in the “Tamersverse” there’s no slot for him to fill and he will just end up like Max or Raphi, getting the occasional cameos just to remind the audience that he isn’t forgotten. Maybe he could be the mechanic character or a fill-in for “the best friend character.” Like how Knuckles used to be for Manic. If Tails ever is added I hope it’ll be for a one off at most, much like Hip Hedgehog in M3GAN.
>>5055 I doubt he’d do it, while Tamers isn’t hostile towards other classic Sonic cartoons, he is indifferent. SU has more than enough characters. And frankly I wouldn’t want any episodes or screen time wasted when it could go to less used SU characters like Raphi, Jared, Trevor, Cyrus, or Mandy.
>>5105 No. He used the site once before and gave proof it was him swiftly. This “Tamers” done everything in his power to avoid giving any proof of any form, it’s a larper and a bad one at that.
>>5106 It's 100% Carlos. I've been doing my best to improve his grammar, but it's unfortunately still dogshit. If you look closely, he makes all the same grammar mistakes a native romance language (Spanish, French, etc) speaker makes. Tamers makes far fewer grammar mistakes, and the mistakes he does make are typical of someone with English as their first language
Also, he couldn't even keep the charade up for the entire thread, admitting that he turned the Tamers12345 name off at one point (which was clearly to switch to his Carlos handle). As for why? His sharty thread didn't get any traction, and he can't stir up shit here since he's banned
>>5118 Nigga I’m going to be god-honest with you for a moment. Not everything has to be related to the “boogeyman” of the week, whether it’s Carlos or Hugh or some other namefag, you people have been doing this for years now because you lack simple brain function. It’s always “X happened therefore (Namefag of the month) done it!” And it’s always over the most retarded event that doesn’t fucking matter and you’re always wrong with maybe one exception of Carlos getting the Sleepover video took down ages ago. Genuine schizo levels of living rent-free in someone’s head or maybe it’s just autism, who am I to judge.
>>5122 I mean it’s not an unreasonable conclusion man, he has an easily recognizable typing style. Though I don’t really know anything about Hugh or why people dislike him. I’ve just heard his name mentioned from time to time
>>5126 He asked people to stop hornyposting in the live chat maybe ten times particularly surrounding Alora and Aleena in general, and of course fags started putting his name on every little issue they had with the fan-base until Carlos came back so they proceeded to pin everything on him. And all of this “he said she said” leads to misinformation which leads to more confusion and anger which leads to more pinning people on stuff which leads to MORE confusion and anger, circle of life and shit. It’s all so tiresome but when you have so many strong opinions autists in one thread it’s to be expected, look at the shitfest that was the last Christmas episode for example.
>>5128 Yeah the Christmas episode thread was pretty wild lmao. If I recall correctly, that’s also when the multiple Tamers/2 Artist posting became completely unbearable. Though that’s somewhat calmed down recently.
>>5150 >Though that’s somewhat calmed down recently. If anything, it feels like everyone is too afraid to mention it in order to not cause another shit-storm.
People dug way too deep into the theory before, finding twitter accounts, old DA posts, video descriptions etc etc and all of it pretty much confirms the theory ten times over, but this info to me feels like it's in a state of taboo where it's almost heresy to mention the theory or it's legitimacy as it "defaces the authenticity of the channel" or some other faggoty response.
>>5176 I think for most anons anyway, it isn’t even a matter of the probability. It’s when people want to blame episodes they don’t like on a fabricated “second Tamers,” and the whole thing got pretty obnoxious. And probably most obnoxious is the idea that the hypothetical multiple Tamers regularly sabotage each other’s work. Before all of this started, the two artist theory was not really a source of contention, nor did it constantly derail threads.
>>5118 >As for why? His sharty thread didn't get any traction, and he can't stir up shit here since he's banned He just got a week ban on the kiwifarms thread as well and if he does it again he'll probably get perm so this really is his last resort
>>5180 All he has left is his YouTube really, no-one on the sharty cares other then the kiwifarms immigrants who deterred people immediately. The only way Carlos could stir shit up again is by either doing what that other guy did like 7 years ago and make an imposter tamers account then go wild making really incriminating slop content or just re-upload his old content on main and see if anyone on here or 4chan in general cares, it might make one autist angry. I’m just surprised he’s still trying, he’s really playing with fire considering how his public info is so easy to get (school, location and face mainly.)
>>5182 >The only way Carlos could stir shit up again is by either doing what that other guy did like 7 years ago and make an imposter tamers account then go wild making really incriminating slop content I don't think that could ever work a second time, mainly for the reasons tamers gives on the spigiggles guy. They all give up after awhile, because even if they do try to imitate him, they cannot match his quality or upload speed because they're making videos out of spite and not passion so they burn out very quickly.
>>5119 Yeah, he's played them but isn't really a fan of the games. He's more into the Digimon games and Wizard101 >>5122 One of the reasons I like imageboard format is it's fun working out who's who based on posting style, so for better or worse, I can recognize people like Carlos. The other people who shit up Tamers threads aren't ESL so I thought I'd point that out how you can tell the difference >>5176 Personally I don't mind people talking about it, but I'd rather focus on the in-universe lore since it's much more interesting >>5180 lmao, it's only a matter of time before he gets his very own thread there >>5183 Love it when Tamers goes full Zen master in the YouTube comments
>>5186 Not counting on this releasing, animation takes time and passion, not spite as another anon said. If this releases at all it’ll be ten minutes at most and that’s pushing it, but who am I to judge, maybe this’ll come out pretty ok but I know for sure it’ll never compare to a tamers episodes quality. Best of luck to Carlos I guess?
>>5216 Because that's not his tumblr blog. Being that all of the posts are about living in the UK I figured that was obvious. This is his tumblr blog https://tamers12345isme.tumblr.com/ his original account from 2012 got banned or something and someone else took the name I'd assume.
>>5193 He's made some short animations before so he might actually do it >>5194 100% this >>5216 That's because it's not his blog anymore. Once you close a tumblr account (or get banned), the name is up for grabs after a certain amount of time. It isn't Tamers rebloging that, it's whoever has the blog now. A few of the blogs I used to follow deleted and went I went to check them they were selling unrelated stuff, search engine optimizing other sites, or running scams
>>5221 One of the things I love about Tamers' persona is that he's generally silent on social and political issues. All that matters is Sonic Underground, unless it's funny. He's had Bush and Obama working together as villains, had Sonia go full Sadie Enword (unbleeped!), and burned two gay characters alive because they don't deserve a happy ending if they even slightly inconvenience Bartleby.
If there is a political or social message in SU, it's that there's good and bad in everyone, and that time spent with family, friends (and even enemies) is the only thing that matters, especially if it's mundane stuff like going to Wallmart. There's a reason Robotnik keeps getting invited to Thanksgiving despite enslaving an entire planet
Do we think Aleena is on food stamps? She strikes me as the type that barely classes out of government benefits. I don’t think I’ve seen any media accurately represent the Midwest working class as well as Tamers. I never had any pizza but Little Caesar’s when I was a kid.
New Tamers vid: Sonic Underground Summer Special: Sonic Goes The Pool And Almost Dies >What starts as a fun and relaxing day quickly turns into a heart-pounding experience when Sonic finds himself upside down in the water. With his lover, Bartleby Montclair of Dresdin by his side, the power of love and trust is put to the ultimate test. Dive into this heartfelt tale of bravery, love, and the bond between two lovers.
>>5260 I’ll say what I said in /co, Sonia was the mvp this episode. I love how she’s developed into the Tamer’s straight man, the cuts to her judgmental expression crack me up every time. Sonia following Flora to the toilet to console her, then immediately telling her off, might take the gold for best comedy scene this year imo.
RIP Mandy LaTour. Hopefully this isn’t the last of her because I’m genuinely interested in what past she might have with Bartleby.
>>5262 We thought Pa caught a bad case of permadeath but he came back after a while, but I won't deny the fact that she's just a blue-haired Mindy and it's grown long in the tooth. At least this means more chinese food from the dumpster for Mindy and Mark.
I still can't believe no one found out Knuckles killed a guy and took his job >>5267 Honestly, a lot of the fun of the multiple tamers theorycrafting posts is seeing just how much they get wrong
>>5275 There's not much I can say since I think it's better to keep the water muddied, but the idea that they hate each other and that one is now just working on MLP and the other SU was pretty funny
>>5279 What scenes did Artist 1 work on in the MLP episodes and what recent SU scenes did Artist 2 work on? I did get an Artist 2 feeling from >>5266 but I'm not 100% sure
>>5280 I've been a Tamers fan since his early videos, and have watched those way too many times. I'm also the one that tracked down all of the old DA and Tumblr art for the archive so I'm very familiar with how the writing and artstyle's progressed. I find it fascinating to see how small details get referenced and expanded on years later (like the sword lore, and Manic's relationship with Sonic and Bartleby). For clarity, I don't know Tamers personally, and at most only speculate on which parts are artist 1 or 2. I'll never post anything more than that, and will certainly never post his personal info, or anything that could lead to it.
If I'm being honest, I think all the speculation on who Tamers actually is misses the entire point of the show. I usually end these sorts of posts saying he's just some guy, that there's no secret cache of SU art or lore out there, and it shouldn't matter to true SU fans anyway (which is all true!), but maybe this does need an explanation.
Something Awful, then 4/co/, then /cow/ and kiwifarms all became aware of Tamers years ago. Only a small proportion of these communities actually do the doxing, especially when it's more effort than looking someone's name on Facebook. There's an entire Wikipedia article on this, but essentially, 1% of people in an online community create content (i.e., dox people), 9% engage with content (i.e., post), and 90% just passively observe (i.e., lurk): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule
That said, it's clear that people from these sites have investigated Tamers, and yet no one has posted anything. Why? Because each of those communities ended up liking his content, and anyone who investigated further realized he's not some cwc-tier weirdo. If he were, we would've seen videos of some guy in a cardboard Bartleby costume harassing Walmart employees about them being out of SU dvds.
>>5281 The horse shapes really throw me off since they look nothing like the SU characters, so I'm not really sure >I did get an Artist 2 feeling from >>5266 but I'm not 100% sure There's a lot of overlap in the styles now, so it is harder to tell. I'm not sure myself
>>5281 >What scenes did Artist 1 work on in the MLP episode NTA but the way Rainbow Dash looked towards the end of the Birthday Bash was very artist 1-esque. Like it was drawn by the main mommy Aleena artist
>>5298 Nice to have a canon explanation after all this time. If you look closely at the early comics, you can see a single style diverge into several. The early videos in particular show a lot of experimentation, where he's trying to translate his traditionally drawn style into digital 2d animations that can be done relatively quickly but still be readable. There was a lot of time originally spent on drawing background art and putting unnecessary detail into the lip flaps that doesn't happen now. There's also a lot more use of the curve tool to define the characters instead of manually drawing every outline
>>5304 It might be Rainbow Dash x Pinkie since they went skating like Bartleby and Sonic did, but it's probably Celestia x Twilight >>5306 As much as I like BraeMac, this ship's really cute (and a lot healthier). Going by the unedited video (>>4351), the version Braeburn plays cuts off right when the SoarBurn parts start so it's almost certainly endgame
>>5307 Sonia survived being exploded by Bartleby himself, there's no way a mere fall could take out Mandy. She's 90% silicon airbags anyway so she's probably just attention seeking
>>5308 kek he probably just threw Braeburn and Macintosh together out of formality because there were so little guys to choose from, and the very minute he found out there was a blue male that could fit into the yellow/blue dyamic, Macintosh got the absolute boot to the curb.
I usually wouldn't link such a low-effort 4/co/ thread, but there's been an exciting development in the world of grammar: Carlos has finally started to distinguish between you're and your. https://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/144437034 >>5311 He made a batch of five MLP episodes so the final ship's been locked in from the start. Using the BraeMac part of the SoarBurn AMV was probably a hint for dedicated MLP fans. I 100% agree it's been chosen so we can have a yellow/blue dynamic. I also think it's because we never got to see the courtship part of Bardonic (outside of those kindergarten videos), since it happened off-screen during the original SU run (and likely in Tamers' SU comics) >>5318 lmao >>5349 I think Flora miscalculated with the brainwashing and is now going to have to deal with Sonia and Aleena's advances
>>5370 >Gracious God, I clothe myself with the breastplate of righteousness to guard my heart and conscience. Help me to live a life that honors You and reflects Your righteousness. Strengthen me to resist temptation and pursue a pure and holy life. May Your righteousness be a shield that covers me and keeps me safe.
>>5452 The substitute teacher episode thread was nice, but yeah most of the recent threads suck. I think it would help considerably if anons started to ignore Carlos/others. There was people trying to start shit in the mlp threads, but they ended up being good threads regardless because most Anons just ignored them and discussed the episode.
>>5454 It's evolved past a couple of schizos, (you) farmers flood the thread with funposts just to bait the autists who lack the self control to ignore it.
>>5460 >>5454 This. I can't really blame the people who shit up the thread too much, since they wouldn't be doing it if people weren't so fucking retarded as to reply Every. Single. Time. Ignore the stupid fucks and they go away, but some people can't grasp the concept and bite the bait every time until half the thread replies are just autists arguing with funposters.
>>5635 For it to actually be over, it would have to be accurate, and Tamers would have to care enough about it to delete everything. He's got a loyal fanbase and is making enough money in his Patreon that I don't think he'd give it all up just because some shut ins are creepily obsessed with him >>5636 That or all those sexy Bartleby pics
>>5635 Woah, wait a minute... You're telling me the guy who makes Sonic videos where the characters are all homosexuals and fuck each other in the ass is actually a gay furry? Wow. What a revelation. I never would have guessed.
>>5636 >>5638 I wasn’t a furry for the longest time but then Bartley, Uncle Chuck, Sleet, and Dingo came along. Just recently Tamers turned me into a brony.
>>5641 I was already into anthros before Tamers, but I lay 100% of the blame on him for making me like Sleengo armpit hair and MLP. I'd never even watched a MLP episode before and now I'm almost finished season 2 Rarity's my favorite of the main cast, since she's a fancy bitch. Tamers' Dingo was also big part of why I started liking bara characters
>>5643 MLP is a pretty comfy show. It’s a shame the stallion characters are underused because they are really cute. Soarin is such a himbo! Rarity is probably my second favorite Tamers pony, my first thought is Twilight. I love how conniving and passive aggressive she is.
My favorite part about Tamers characters is probably their hair. Bartleby’s Reinhard hair hardly needs explaining, neither does Aleena’s Victorianesque hair she always wears down. Sleet’s mullet/goatee is so sexy, and I like how Dingo’s mohawk trails down his back. I’m also attracted to Sleet’s armpits
>>5645 It's mega comfy, and the low stakes slice of life stories are a lot more like my favorite Tamers videos. Yeah, we definitely need more stallions. There's the guards, the ones that pull carts, and the Doctor Who one, but they're all pretty much background characters. I wish there was more Big Mac, Braeburn and Soarin ;_; > I love how conniving and passive aggressive she is. Same! The passive aggressive nerd thing with Twilight is more relatable for me, whereas the put together sassy bitch thing with Rarity is more aspirational >hair It's so well drawn! I love how much their hair ends up matching their personalities, and I'm seriously thinking of going for a Sleet-esque mullet myself >spoiler If I have one complaint with Tamers, it's that he's given me an armpit fetish. They just look so masculine and sexy on Sleet and Dingo ;_; >that pic lmao
>>5648 The important thing is they think it's him. Personally I don't know if it is, and I don't care. They've at most linked an old email address he used to register a DA account with an old YouTube account, but he got banned over a dozen times on DA so he might have used a friend's email for that one (you need a unique email for each new DA account). Anecdotal, but in high school I used to know a few of my friends' email logins because we'd share them around to register for things (and mess with each other)
>>5646 Tamers has refined tastes, long haired men are sexy. You should go for it anon! If you’re a working class Midwest American man it’s probably in fashion anyway.
Do you think Tamers is going to comment on the attempted Trump assassination? Honestly all I expect is a Bartleby version of picrel but I think it'd be funny if they just had a full episode where the Sonic Underground were at the rally itself.
>>5670 >Trump wasn't saved by divine intervention or Abe contacting him from the grave, it was just Mindy in the crowd flashing her tits and catching his attention
I'm one of the Sleengofags that frequent the /co/ thread, but I got banned for "Ban Evasion" (more like I made fun of someone that the jannies like, so they slapped me with a bogus ban) so someone please tell this guy in my stead that I ain't involved with this shit.
>>5669 Lmao, audio related! "Ah-ha-he-ha-ha" will get the Bartleby laugh >spoiler And now I'm blushing too! >>5670 The last presidents he mentioned were Bush and Obama, and had them in a possibly romantic relationship where they got off torturing Sportacus. I could see him tweeting that it means Trump's a Modern Sonic fan >>5671 I think that happened at he Easter Egg hunt >>5672 I was not expecting that "spanking" scene to be so erotic. He even got the sounds right ;_; >>5685 Sorry to hear that. I usually get banned for antagonizing the jannies every few months, but it's worth it to make fun of them. Not to worry, I've defended our collective Sleengofag honor
Hilarious Tamers news: An anon made a guided meditation video starring Flora and it's attracted over 10k views, almost all from India. Guided Meditation & Muscle Relaxation With Flora from Sonic Underground in her Weird Treehouse 🌲🏡🔥 Some highlights from the comments: On Flora: >What a beautiful voice! Perfect >Indeed I felt release. Must not miss this one >You r words are soothing brings in me immensely happy complete and enlighten >hi flora i just wanted to say thank you so much. what a wonderful lady. you are you are so amazing >I love you On Mindy: >scary demon with bright red hair.may she find serenity And from the Tamers fans: >So nice of Bartleby to piss in the background for ambience
Sorry Soniabros and Aleenabros, Flora's the undisputed top waifu now!
>>5715 They're so bad! I have grown to enjoy seeing how far I can go before they hit me with a ban though
>>5741 It's really just one schizo janny and his mod friend ABIB, and it's only because they both have a hateboner for Sonic. I wrote about them here: >>711 In general, the mods are pretty thin skinned on 4chan, but especially on 4/co/. They'll allow posts with drawings of nude underage girls to stay up, but will ban you for posting anything too anthro. My favorite 4/co/ game is to see just how risqué I can get in the Swat Kats threads. Protip: 4am-9am EST is when the anthro-hating jannies are usually asleep
>>5749 Not gonna look at it, but whether or not any of that shit's real, he'll be fine, I guarantee he's working on the next video right now, making sure Soarin's sweaty, zentai-covered buttcheeks look just right.
>>5749 It's probably wrong, but either way he's just not going to acknowledge it and keep making videos same as always. These faggots (mainly carlos) can't grasp the fact that he's not going to give them the attention their parents don't.
>>5744 Why is it always my posts that trigger these things ;_; On the plus side, the new image backend is working great! >>5749 Judging by his latest tweet posted well after the (potential) dox: >The animation in Sonic Underground was actually amazing for its time. In 1999 CRT TV's were all we had, so you didn't have idiots online taking screenshots of the in-between frames to schmear Sonic Undergrounds good name. He doesn't seem worried. Also, he's been on YouTube for almost a decade now, I'm sure he decided a long time ago what he'd do if he got doxed >>5752 I don't know how he'll top that Braemac "spanking" scene, but I have no doubt he will! >>5753 >either way he's just not going to acknowledge it and keep making videos same as always 100% agree. It's the best course of action for anyone that would find themselves in this situation. >>5758 Soarin does canonically love apple pies, and Braeburn sure is good at making them!
>>5768 It has to be his brother. There's just no way he can make 30 minute episodes bi-weekly and also maintain so many social media accounts. I am finally convinced the Sleengo artist really was his gay furry brother all along. Who of course he used his powers to age them down and write an episode of their erotic school days- Shit now I don't think I'll be able to watch that episode again knowing what I know now. It's commendable Tamers kicked him off the channel in favor of milf content if true.
I'm gonna go with my gut on this one and say that whatever gross shit he drew before he got paid for, then as his Patreon started getting subs, he quickly ditched that shit
>>5768 Real or not the best thing he can do in this situation is be the rubber the glue bounces off of and no sell them. They strive off of being attention whores so if you don't feed the trolls they'll starve to death. I just pray that they clean their act up and get a real and more meaningful life, maybe by getting a job and finding a girlfriend.
>>5771 Even assuming it's all true, I'm still not sure why we're supposed to care. There's a ton of artists and animators I follow and I've never been interested in what they do outside their art. >>5775 Honestly good advice >>5777 >Or a boyfriend! I think I speak on behalf of all homos when I say the women can have them!
>>5777 Even in the hopes they can find a normal gay guy, they could run too much of a risk of getting with other members of the sharty and only enabling their autism further with the added benefit that they can fuck each other in the ass and no longer be considered virgins. Only then will one realize how gay this shit is, get self-conscious, and try to convince the other to troon-out, because in their minds it would be less gay. Imagine the mental illness of a sharty goer and the unhealthy delusions of a tranny, that would be a thousand times worse than a nice girl who can clean you're act up.
Judging by his recent posts I can say without a shadow of a doubt that Tamers is fine. Can mods filter sharty as to stop giving these attention seeking fags the attention they so desperately want? Thanks, it's not that hard to ignore these people.
>>5779 I goofed up. I have two archives technically, the main one that the website links to, and a mirror that only I have the link to in the event something happens to it. The way koofr works is that it syncs all of the files online with a folder I have saved. I only recently realized that I've been logged into the mirror account for who knows how long, meaning the mirror is up to date but the main archive that everyone sees was missing a lot, so I took down the download link so that I could sync everything up to date and use the time to maybe change some around things that have been bothering me. It will be back up soon.
>>5782 Thanks for your tireless work! Not sure if you've got the original version of the first MLP episode (before the music change), but I can send you a copy
As an apology for the archive being down here's 60 SU Minecraft skins. Perfect for representing your love of SU on your favorite minecraft server or use them to roleplay or whatever else you do with them. Skinpack 1: https://files.catbox.moe/84opbg.7z Skinpack 2: https://files.catbox.moe/eigxpy.7z
>>5784 I've got the before and after music change of that one, but if you know of any others that have been changed do let me know.
>>5785 Those look really great! You wouldn't think such circular characters would translate so recognizably into the Minecraft style >or whatever else you do with them I shudder to think! >I've got the before and after music change of that one, but if you know of any others that have been changed do let me know. Good to hear. None that I can think of, but I was planning on re-downloading the videos in mp4 format and I'm sure there's got to be some way to compare audio across files
>>5790 I'd love to find the Sleet to my Dingo, maybe some day.... (Also here's the slightly updated version that the artist posted later) (I wonder how that artist feels about Braemac and/or Soarburn, hopefully positively!)
Going to see if I can make a full "episode" of Uncle Chuck using Queen Aleena while she's passed out drunk. This is easy enough to draw, I just need a script with jokes.
I swear Tamers learned about the myth that they used to hang horses to kill them (instead of what they really do, which is blow them up with dynamite) and is making these hanging scenes to reference that
Not a bad episode, always love it when Tamers pulls out the Little Caesars. I’m glad Celestia can appreciate it despite being rich, I have to assume Applebee’s is more up her alley
It always comes back to Linkin Park >>5808 Is that a reference to something? >>5813 Neurotic nerd x Chūnibyō is a really good pairing >>5816 I'm genuinely going to have to order pizza tonight. Celestia's gotten inside my head
>>5857 >>5851 That's not Carlos, he's posted videos of him talking before and he's definitely not that young (or that fluent in english for that matter). This is someone else, but still pretty sad that the average age of the people behind this are probably even younger than we thought. The grooming allegations are starting to seem more and more likely.
>>5858 On one hand it's pretty sad to see what kids are up to these days, but it does at least explain why that guy on the sharty was acting like such a chunibyo. >The grooming allegations are starting to seem more and more likely. 100% agree. A bunch of edgelord kids larping as super hackers is a prime target for anyone with the least amount of computer skills and dark inclinations. Frankly, kids shouldn't be allowed on the Internet without supervision
>>5887 The sharty doth protest too much, methinks I do find it interesting that they explicitly court a younger audience, to the point where they call themselves soyteens. For those not familiar with /lgbt/, over 80% of the threads are trans people arguing with each other while hyperfixating on things like their bone structure. The webcomic general is pretty fun though, and is the only reason I even visit that board. If the sharty actually wanted to do something about grooming, they would be focusing on platforms like discord
>>5985 His channel's been doing really well, with nice consistent growth for years now, but I think the pony videos are gaining him a large bump in subscribers. Fun fact: Social Blade predicts he'll hit 100k subscribers in 4 years
>>6001 It's an interesting decision to keep all the lore stuff in multi-part episodes at the beginning and ends of the seasons. The season opener was hilarious, especially when Twilight neurotically replaced Rainbow Dash with Spike.
>>6002 And that's it for season 2! Aside from the Big Mac episodes, my favorites were: Lesson Zero and It's About Time were fun to see Twilight being neurotic, Sweet and Elite and Hearth's Warming Eve for Rarity being a fancy bitch, The Mysterious Mare Do Well and Read It and Weep for Rainbow Dash being Rainbow Dash, and Putting Your Hoof Down for Fluttershy being a total chad
>>6003 Season 2 is one of the best! Though they lose some points no Braeburn, what were they thinking? Are they stupid? More Big Mac was a treat though. Sweet and Elite was probably my favorite episode, the stallion Rarity met was pretty cute too
Could someone help source Trixie's voice in the most recent video? I assumed it was MicMonster like the others, but I was comparing lines with all of their voices and none of them sounded quite the same.
It feels like time has slowed to a halt with all these historical events going on, I honestly thought we were closer to a new episode but it hasn't even been a week since the Trixie episode. I just hope Tamers is having fun working on the new episode, I bet he's got a lot of material after what's happened over the past few weeks.
>>5985 UPDATE: it's over 42k views now! >>6055 The lack of Braeburn was a travesty that should not go unpunished! Still, I did like the changelings and that we got several episodes centered on Big Mac. Sweet and Elite was so good! It had a great song, Rarity boss-bitching her way to the top of Canterlot society and still coming out on top even after her friends crashed her fancy party >the stallion Rarity met was pretty cute too He was! And almost Bartleby-esque too! It was nice that they stayed in touch in later episodes. Come to think of it, there are a lot of cute stallions in Canterlot >>6064 Wish I could help but I've got no idea >>6101 To quote another sexy bald dictator with a mustache >There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen I'm guessing he's having fun making the next episode. He only references the most important news though, like Drake Bell going missing >>6120 >things have been exciting I don't really follow politics, but excitement's surely the last thing you want! This election's already ruined me. Those golden Trump shoes were so kitsch I kinda want them ;_; Send help!
Had a look at the sharty thread and Carlos is screenshotting posts from here since he can't reply directly (because he's banned lol). Here's a handy guide for the major posters (you can click on their id to highlight all their posts):
ID: MhMxZTaB MarioTehPlumber anon ID: 7ru6Rv5q Carlos, now with self-confirmed face-dox. I had no idea that picture he always uses as an avatar was actually him ID: bpxQTy6t Dubbed "Banana Boy" by KiwiFarms, this is the most active poster in the thread. Believes the feds are after him for his doxxing (he uses two x's for his unique doxing signature) and claims to have met Tamers in person at a family reunion
I also looked at the KiwiFarms thread and and they're all pretty pro-Tamers, including their mods. One of their users did a well-written and extensive writeup on Banana Boy and his doxxing attempt. It also looks like they've noticed Carlos posts on KiwiFarms, which probably isn't good for him
>>6144 Kiwis have been a fan of tamers and his work for a very long time, even fighting to have his thread moved out of the lolcow secton since nobody actually thought of him or treated him as one. It now resides under the multimedia part of the forum. As for carlos, he was temp banned and probably full banned from using tamers kiwi thread after acting like a sperg on there and annoying everyone. I think it's best to not talk about the sharty for now unless something big happens again since all they really want is attention (just look at how bananaboy likes to pretend he's a super hacker with the 3 letter agencies trying to track him down), but seeing how tamers refuses to acknowledge them in any way I don't see that happening. They're just another footnote in the list of people that tried to mess with tamers and failed.
>>6145 Yeah, I'm glad to see they enjoy Tamers as much as we do. I don't see myself mentioning the sharty again, I just thought it was interesting that they've seen our little corner of the Internet >seeing how tamers refuses to acknowledge them in any way Definitely for the best. Personally I'm way more excited to see what's in the next episode. It's probably a Sonic Underground one and I'm hoping we get more hints at who was behind that time reversal during the school bus episode And more Sleengo, obviously!
>>6146 I'm hoping we get that Zatch Bell video soon... I'd also love if tamers rebooted Yugioh next or at least did another video with them like this one The Characters From Yu-Gi-Oh! Finds Out Kazuki Takahashi Is Dead after Light told Yugi he was worthless in WW3 and the credits showed him still seething about it and denouncing card games I was hoping he'd have something to do with the next big bad so I hope we get to see him again soon.
>>6147 We're apparently getting a finale soon*, would be great to finally get closure for the series after it's premature cancellation. *'soon' could either be a month or two to a year if the WW3 trailer is anything to go by
>>6147 I never watched Zach Bell but the banter between the characters really cracks me up. Oh man, his take on Yu-Gi-Oh is just the best! I love that the Pharaoh is just a sore loser that cheats at card games and bullies all his friends. Tamers really knows his stuff with the card game too, and has made some fun duels
>>6164 He's so mean! I loved how Sonic decided to give Tristan his trophy at the end but Yugi took it off of him because it doesn't matter what Sonic says, only what Bartleby says matters.
>>6234 >Oh, and the credits will be restricted to paying patrons so they don't go on for so long Truthfully I don't know why he didn't do that to begin with, the whole point of being in the credits is that he's thanking you for supporting him financially.
>>6249 Having free patrons is a recent thing for Patreon so Tamers was probably just using the regular list for the end credits not realizing it includes them. I think Patreon added a paid tier list so my guess is he'll be using that now >>6253 We don't deserve his mangaka-tier dedication!
>>6256 I went to check and it's true, but as funny as that is whoever is still trying to provoke them on there just knock it off. We should just be glad it's gone instead of actively trying to stir shit further. You're just asking for trouble. >>6257 Yes the entire board is gone
>>6258 Exactly, I don’t know when these bitches gonna learn that the best way to trigger these losers is to ignore them, seems to be a reoccurring problem in the Tamers community
>>6256 They're just posting on /giga/ now with a new tamers thread (the same faggots begging people to spam his comments because no one will help them)
Thirstposter, if you want to then you could make another Tamers thread. I know it's not hitting it's file limit but it'll probably hit 1000 posts before that happens.
>>6234 After I get paid I'm going to start financially supporting him, I've been meaning to do it but other stuff in life got in the way. I really hope a rich anon claims the $3000 tier one day.
>>6258 Looks like they had to take down /raid/ in order to keep their domain. They may bring it back, or just allow doxing on other boards and not have a board that's blatantly about it. I'm not caught up on the drama but the posters seem pretty angry about the loss of /raid/, so there may be migration to splinter sites >We should just be glad it's gone instead of actively trying to stir shit further. You're just asking for trouble. 100% this >>6270 Good point, I'll make a new one soon >>6274 I'd been meaning to do it for ages but I'm glad I did >I really hope a rich anon claims the $3000 tier one day. Same
>>6331 >They may bring it back, or just allow doxing on other boards and not have a board that's blatantly about it. From what I've seen they made a new board called /giga/ that you have to type into your browser to access there's no link to it on the site, it's essentially the exact same board just not publicly shown.
A previously lost tamers video has been found! Someone had told me about an old LOTR x SU video that tamers had made towards the early years of his channel that had been taken down for copyright. I asked tamers and he confirmed the story. Then, just last night, I noticed a video I hadn't seen before. I checked and sure enough it was not in my archive (I've ran commands to download his entire channel so there's no way that I would have missed it) and was also missing from multiple other archives of his channel from over the years. I have no clue if the copyright strike was removed somehow and the video was made public again or what but here it is a video I'm sure most if not all of you have never seen before. The true battle of helm's deep! Never give up!
>>6390 Oh shit, nice work! I've never seen that one before and it's definitely not in my archives. >I have no clue if the copyright strike was removed somehow and the video was made public again That must be it
>>6391 >fluffy marshmallow boy Having the two best ponies, Twilight and Rarity, as main characters was such a treat! My favorite parts were Rarity renting out a love hotel with one bed, and Celestia being confused about lemonade. I was hoping for some SoarBurn, but their absence just makes my heart grow fonder >>6380 That explains the disappointing lack of homo posting, I hope you can be there for the next episode! >>6390 Tamersbros are the best, I’ll check it out later
>>6393 Rarity's just the best! Apart from her crush on Twilight (and her poop fetish) she's practically the same as the original show. Celestia always makes me laugh, that voice is perfect for Tamers' writing. My favorite parts were Twilight and Shining Armor fighting, Shining Armor being a catty bitch, careless whispers, and the running gag where none of them can actually pick things up with their hooves. Twilight actually learning humility was really good too >I was hoping for some SoarBurn, but their absence just makes my heart grow fonder My guess is we'll be getting an episode that focuses more on them next. Tamers did say he's got more MLP episodes planned, and with the numbers they're doing, he'd be crazy not to >That explains the disappointing lack of homo posting, I hope you can be there for the next episode! Oh I'll be there! Ironically I got banned for posting (censored) breasts, but the real reason is that janny has a massive hate-boner for me. Here's the offending image: >>>/4chan/co/144694945
>>6428 Yeah, I really feel for her too, especially since her personality's the same as the original show. She deserves better than that vapid twink!
On that subject, I'd like to point out that Blue x Shining is clearly supposed to be an inversion of Bardonic. While it's still a muscular handsome rich guy with his blue bitch, the relationship's completely different. Bartleby never makes Sonic call him his bitch, and Sonic has never been interested in Bartleby for his money. Also, Bartleby would never settle for being Sonic's side piece, they're an out and monogamous couple. Honestly, I think Shining's only with him because he's rich, and will probably leave him as soon as he finds a richer sugar daddy that spoils him more
>>6459 Like all of us, I think Blueblood could learn a thing or two from Bartleby. I thought it was very sweet that he made a point of calling Sonic his boyfriend when he met his parents
>>6461 Exactly! Sonic and Bartleby's relationship may appear abusive and violent but Bartleby has never done anything to Sonic that wasn't (enthusiastically!) consented to, and they would never cheat on each other >spoiler That was really cute and brave of him, especially considering what jerks his parents can be
>>6462 And I think that’s exactly what makes Bardonic so pure. Bartleby could have anyone he wanted, but he only has eyes for Sonic, and is completely loyal to him.
>>6475 I may spend a lot of time gushing about Sleengo, but Bardonic really is the heart of the Sonic Underground. While nothing will ever tear them apart it was fun to see Sonic go all yandere about that schoolgirl on the bus.
Come to think of it, the fact that Sonic thought Bartleby had eyes for a girl confirms my suspicion that Bartleby may be bi. We know he was engaged to Sonia in the original show and Tamers' old drawings confirm it wasn't just a political marriage. Clearly he only had eyes for Sonic once he got a look at that butt though (who wouldn't!), and Sonic's never shown interest in anyone except Bartleby well, maybe Manic, but everyone's at least a little incestuous in the Tamersverse
>>6476 >Come to think of it, the fact that Sonic thought Bartleby had eyes for a girl confirms my suspicion that Bartleby may be bi. We know he was engaged to Sonia in the original show and Tamers' old drawings confirm it wasn't just a political marriage. There's also his weird interaction with Mandy in the dollar tree video that could possibly imply they were together at some point in the past (most likely in part of the Latour family being one of the other rich families on Mobius) with Mandy not being over to get over it but Bartleby having long since moving on.
>>6510 I sketched this up earlier this morning, I haven't had much time to draw Tamers' Aleena recently but I hope this can help feed the Aleena bros for a little bit.
>>6533 Shit, you're right! This is 100% my headcanon now >>6534 Welcome to my world! >>6543 >sleet's represented by black peppers and stylized wings >dingo's represented by dark chocolate and a stylized butthole Sleet a reluctant top and Dingo a dominant bottom confirmed! >>6556 Very nice! I like how you've kept her shortstack proportions but added the child-bearing hips
Might as well (schizo)post this here too. TLDR: 8 years ago Braeburn and Big Mac were dating other stallions in their extended family, but those relationships cooled off. During the Apple Family Reunion in season 3 they started dating, and had been dating for 3 years in the Tamersverse, placing the Tamersverse in the later seasons of MLP Obviously this is all just silly speculation
>>6768 Nice! >sleetisfied.png Very nice! >banned The jannies are just the worst over on 4/co/. I just finished a 3 day ban myself for doing a Storytime of Pain
>>6144 I did some research into Carlos, found his telegram @SpateHicks. His face picture seems to be him on his school uniform kek. He also uploaded a 6 minute long animation to his channel a while ago. Sonic Underground And The Anon Chronicles: A Cause For Celebration I'm quite impressed he actually did what he said that he would do, but I don't think his parents would be so happy. That said I hope his dad beats him to a pulp and takes away his internet access.
>>6776 Yeah, there's this one guy who accuses every Sleengo fan of being the same person. >>6778 >>6779 He was facedoxed over on the sharty, since he shared a dropbox link, which will leak your username. His other account is zoombomber guy and there's a video with him in the same room as the one where he wears the cardboard Bartleby costume. Voice is also the same too: https://preservetube.com/channel/UCtQz5WUCDhCU8pwhaT_P1kA
Oh, and if you're wondering who is in the (Old Video) I leave a message video, it's a disgusting individual known as paulandamy from Sonic Passion who is in prison for life for what he did to children
>>6780 It's so weird. His username is essentially "HateSpicks" and yet he's literally a Hispanic guy from Panama with brown skin. I really don't get it
>>6786 > It's so weird. His username is essentially "HateSpicks" and yet he's literally a Hispanic guy from Panama with brown skin. I really don't get it
I have to assume he misguidedly believes this behavior will get him approval from the edgy /pol crowd. The whole thing is pretty sad to watch. Of course, by necessity of being a dark skinned Hispanic, and being annoying as fuck, he will neverget said approval. Being a pick me bitch never works out at the end.
Despite him obsessively watching Tamers Sonic Underground, he’s never caught on to the theme of accepting yourself for who you are.
>>6788 Of course he is he's still upset that he got perm banned earlier in the thread. He's responded to messages here before and this is why I think people need to just ignore him, he's so desperate for attention that he'll lurk any thread or website just to see if anyone is talking about him. Awhile back he was combing the archive until he found some fanfic that mentioned his name once and then started posting about it. He REALLY wants people to talk about him.
>>6787 >I have to assume he misguidedly believes this behavior will get him approval from the edgy /pol crowd. Like being an incel, it gives him an excuse for why people don't like him, and a community that will accept him (so long as he toes the line) >Being a pick me bitch never works out at the end. lmao, it really is the "I'm not like other girls" of racism >Despite him obsessively watching Tamers Sonic Underground, he’s never caught on to the theme of accepting yourself for who you are. That's the really sad part. He could just drop the name on 4chan and be less abrasive, and we'd accept him >>6788 Did he? I didn't see it. The claiming to be white thing's a weird hill to die on. It's not like anyone really cares >>6812 If he'd just behaved himself I wouldn't have mentioned anything to the admin
I started watching Codename: Kids Next Door and I guess the voice actor for Sleet (Maurice LaMarche) plays Father. I never realized just how much stuff this guy is in or how varied his voice acting is.
>>6822 >Did he? I didn't see it. He posted a video on youtube showing a bunch of galician stuff he has at home and showing his face and hand with him saying something like "See? I'm not brown or mestizo". He took down his video yesterday. >>6812 It's very embarrassing that the animation he made recently is literally from the part where he was mentioned in that fanfic. It literally has the same name as the original thing and the chapter name lol. >>6829 Holy shit I didn't know that guy voiced anyone on KND, very surprised. >>6828 He belongs to Dingo.
>>6828 He's so handsome! I'm more jealous of Sleet though since he gets Dingo >>6831 >He took down his video yesterday. lmao, kinda defeats the purpose of proving he's white >He belongs to Dingo. hawt
>>6831 >He belongs to Dingo. Don’t get it wrong, I’d never separate those two. I just feel bad because Dr Robotnik ruined his Long John Silvers during the Christmas tree episode. Probably one of the most EVIL things he has ever done. >>6833 Man, I could go on all day about those two. I want to give Dingo a hug so bad. He’s so big I probably couldn’t even fit my arms around him. Imagine cuddling up with Sleet and Dingo on the couch in their pajamas.
>>6844 >>6847 Worse. /raid/ is back, and It's still trash. On the bright side, I have spent an unhealthy amount of time doing some autistically obsessed research on Carlos and found some cringy old videos, including an unlisted one which prove he is getting groomed on discord. Fake anarchy server Nooooo If tamers gets banned from youtube or hacked, I'm making sure carlos is leaving the internet first. >>6834 They seem like the type of guys that would be in for a threesome. Well, as long as you don't tell anyone, you know how Sleet is.
>>6835 >spoiler They're so cute it hurts ;_; I'd love to be the meat in a Sleengo sandwich, even if it's just cuddling! >>6851 I honestly don't think he's worth the effort, but you might want to use https://preservetube.com to archive any other videos you find (I've already archived all the ones mentioned so far) and https://archive.is/ for everything else >If tamers gets banned from youtube or hacked I doubt he'd get banned, he's successfully contested copyright claims from Disney. As for hacking, it's just one chūnibyō larping a hacker >I'm making sure carlos is leaving the internet first I just wish he'd stop acting like a sperg (and stop creepily fixating on Tamers). Frankly, it's only a matter of time before Kiwifarms eats him alive
>>6856 >it's only a matter of time before Kiwifarms eats him alive Do they have a thread for him yet? Seems like he needs one to deter is brown person autism.
>>6913 Why do us Florafriends have to be associated with this underaged mexican faggot? Also I thought he was in his late teens but after seeing >>6911 I can't even fathom how he's allowed access to the internet.
>>6942 Most Florafags are fine, it's mostly Carlos and a few YouTube commenters that cause the bad reputation. I actually like talking about Flora since she's such an interesting character that views the world so differently to everyone else. That and she's clearly got some long-term scheme to rid the world of Sonic and Knuckles >I can't even fathom how he's allowed access to the internet. He's over 18 now, but significantly developmentally delayed, to the point where his parents should be actively supervising his Internet access or not letting him on it at all. My guess is they're still hoping he'll grow out of it, but that's just not how these things work
>>6945 Shots fired! I do find some of her antics endearing though, like when she tried to go in the wrong part of the door and hit her head on the glass
>>6944 Flora is something else. Sometimes I kinda feel bad for her. Other times, I feel like she causes her own suffering. Like when she joined the cheer team, didn’t practice or follow any of the rules, and then tried to play the victim. In any case she deserved that spanking in the Goodwill parking lot for trying to sabotage Knuxonia. Man, the Hedgehog family are such white trash, but that’s why I love them.
>>6953 I've been enjoying the MLP stuff, so the withdrawals aren't too bad. Still, I can't remember the last time we've waited this long for a new SU video
>>6953 I'm just of the mind that he's been working on a big episode so it hasn;t bothered me too much. Also revisiting m horsefucker days has been a neat experience.
>>6953 I miss them, even if the MLP episodes have honestly felt like a step up from the recent SU episodes, I just wish that quality was in the SU episodes, too
>>7075 How was this episode fantastic it was literally one of Tamers worst the only thing that I like was the fact that there wasn't really any shit or fart jokes
>>7079 The only thing I think it could've improved is if it were longer, other than that it was a pretty standard tamers video not sure how it's "one of tamers worst"
>>7079 Anything with Bartleby's father is an automatic 10/10 for me. Also I have a massive crush on Elijah Wood, and will clap like a seal every time he shows up >>7080 Yeah, it was a little short. I think that anon in the 4/co/ thread was on to something when he said Tamers probably had to cut some scenes
>>7108 Man, Robotnik makes them share a twin size. Sleet is aloof in public but I bet he gets pretty affectionate in private! They’re always cuddling together when we see them in bed. All of that body heat from Dingo must feel so good, especially in the winter
>>7126 Flora would sperg out because Sonia wants to play legos and build random stuff instead of building the sets following the instructions, one of them ends up choking on the pieces
>>7126 >they play dress up, dolls, with Duplo blocks, and Flora teaches Sonia how to read a bit >Sonic and Manic show up to fart in their faces and flex their superiority as men >Uncle Chuck gets kicked out of the house for trying to sneak a peak up the girls' skirts >Flora has to go home early after throwing up from Aleena overfeeding her
>>7120 Oh man, you just know Robotnik's too evil to pay the heating bill so they've got no choice but to huddle together for warmth! Yeah, Sleet's always been very affectionate in private, it's only since Robotnik has had ENOUGH that he started showing it in public >>7184 Touch Fuzzy, Get Dizzy nerd! They're from Yoshi's Island. You should click one of them!
>>7410 His earliest videos show that Manic doesn't like Bartleby because he feels he's stealing his brother from him, it's the longest running arc. I feel like it's inevitable he'll eventually join them in some capacity.
I really liked the concept of characters dividing up into smaller groups with their own hot pot, and I hope he does something similar for SU. Tamersbros, what groups would you like to see in a SU version?
Also Soarburn Soarburn it’s our turn! I really hope we’ll get a Bardonoc and Sleengo kiss this tender one day.
>>7419 >Tamersbros, what groups would you like to see in a SU version? Knuckles and Bartleby working together was really fun but I'd like to see Knuckles working with Sleet. They've had this almost friends thing since the comics and I'd like to see where it goes >spoiler Same! >>7451 You say micropenis, I say perfect length for prostate pounding! >>7471 GAY SLUT HORSE >>7503 I'm glad that Tamers included that. The idea that you're supposed to just top or bottom in a relationship is kinda reductive
I really hope we get a creditless version of the ending. The animation is so cool! >>7528 >Soarin almost 50 Yeah, but he works out so it's 50, but like a hot 50 >Sleet, and Dingo Hey, they're only in their 40s, that's still young! I've got an IRL crush on a guy in his 40s, so don't make it weird! >>7545 lmao, is that a Rose of Versailles reference?
>>7549 >is that a Rose of Versailles reference? It sure is! I’m glad you noticed, it’s really under appreciated these days. It can be hard to find good period shows, but you can tell the writers really care about the era/culture they’re writing in.
THE ONE AND ONLY PERSON with whom Sonic can REALLY find happiness IS AND WILL BE ONLY BARTLEBY!
>>7554 Nice! I absolutely love those older anime where everyone is super dramatic and super fancy. While not a period drama, if you liked Rose of Versailles, I highly recommend Revolutionary Girl Utena. It's easily my favorite anime to over-analyze. The soundtrack's amazing, absolutely everything's symbolic, and it's a completely different show the second time you watch it. Fun fact: Ikuhara, who directed the anime and movie, is the guy Anno of Evangelion fame has an unrequited crush on, to the point where he based Kaworu on him for his self-insert Shinji to be seduced by
>spoiler lmao, you just can't get writing (or voice acting!) like that these days!
New Tamers thread: https://boards.4chan.org/mlp/thread/41339090 >>>/4chan/mlp/41339090 >>7549 >I really hope we get a creditless version of the ending. The animation is so cool! My prayers have been answered!!! My Little Pony Ending: Delusional *Creditless* >>7613 lmao, he really does have that fancy villainess energy! >>7616 I don't know if I should be proud or worried I immediately knew he was talking about pic related >and we all know what that reason is lmao. Fun fact: he's drawn Bartleby as Batman and Sonic as Robin a few times >>7651 Tamers takes a Tolkien-esque approach to his work, where it's more like he's a historian or documentarian putting together various sources into a cohesive narrative than a fiction writer. He has theories on what the characters are thinking and what they will do next, but he's as much in the dark as we are >that gif Absolutely adorable! >>7675 Words to live by in these trying times
Might as well post my schizo comparison here too. If anyone's interested, I did a writeup of this painting in the IDW thread since an artist referenced it for a comic cover: >>1640
>>7805 Looking over my post about the Fallen Angel post got me thinking about the comparison I made a while back between Picasso's Guernica and a scene from the Sonic Underground Halloween Special. I decided to go ultra schizo on it and break down the two images. Warning: unhinged lunacy and art critiques below
I'm not going to go into detail about Guernica and its themes since it's one of the most famous paintings in existence, but you can read more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guernica_(Picasso) Essentially, it's about the bombing of a town and the horrors of the Spanish civil war. Hot take: if you're familiar with Picasso but not a fart-huffing fan, you'll know he basically shat this one out.
One of the things I really dislike about Picasso's style is it's actually kinda hard to see what the fuck is going on in his more busy works. I get that war's supposed to be chaotic, but it's genuinely difficult to separate the horse from the trampled soldier. To help with this I decided to block out the figures in the painting as well as Tamers' work for comparison. I've also color-coded the figures based on the SU characters. One thing that's immediately obvious is just how much better Tamers is at giving his characters distinct silhouettes. Even without the color-coding, it's immediately obvious which character is which, and exactly what they're doing.
For matching the characters, I chose based on rough location and behavior. Mark, Sonic, and Chuck are pretty obvious. Mindy's the weeping mother since she's distraught with her breasts uncovered, and Knuckles is the child since he's short and the closest to her. Bartleby's the horse since he's the most powerful and destructive being in the scene, and Manic's the soldier since he's close to Mindy and Bartleby. Sonia's not got a counterpart in Guernica. I made the evil doll the bull since it's next to Mindy and is the second most powerful creature in the mural. I also highlighted the light source since it's in both.
Another thing I wanted to mention is that Tamers has an objectively superior composition to Picasso. I don't have a background in art theory so I've tried to illustrate the differences between the compositions by drawing circles/ovals around their heads/breasts and triangulated them. Picasso actually wastes the bottom-right third of the mural, cramming all the interesting things around the edges, whereas Tamers evenly spaces out the characters, giving them all room to breathe while still ensuring Bartleby and Mindy('s breasts) are the focus of the scene.
Some things to note with the triangulation: Bartleby is perfectly equidistant and directly between the danger and his bitch, the doll has a clear line of sight to everyone below (and unlike the Bull, is actually looking at everyone), and Sonia's positioned further away from everyone else, likely representing her culpability in unleashing this menace.
Anyway, I think that's more than enough schizoposting for now
Did 4chan just go down for everyone else? First the /mlp/ thread randomly got archived and then it died, then the entirety of /mlp/ and /co/ was down for me.
>>7965 Yeah, as much as I enjoy this huge amount of content, I wouldn't want him to suffer from burnout >>7989 I'm kinda surprised wrestling hasn't featured in the tamersverse. With all the drama, dramatic reveals and violence it'd fit right in
We talk a lot about shipping here, but what’s your favorite platonic relationship in Sonic Underground Tamersbros? I really like Mindy and Sonia’s friendship, and imo Mindy’s best moments have been when she’s stood up for Sonia.
>>8029 He used to have Manic, but post-Bartleby they only really hang out as family >Aleena doesn’t either I could see her and Sleet hanging out and making catty comments
>>8030 Given the chance I think Aleena and Sleet could be pretty good friends. They could run into each other at Walmart and bitch about how dysfunctional their respective households are.
>>8027 Sleet and Knuckles for me, I'm not sure what it's called but I'm a sucker for the trope where two characters that usually never interact are implied to either be good friends or at the very least will occasionally hang out off screen.
>>8034 Yeah, they both need someone to talk to that's relatively well adjusted, considering they're both the straight-man (ha!) of their respective households >>8046 Sleet and Knuckles' almost(?) friendship is one of my favorite and least explored parts of the tamersverse. I really like the idea that they sometimes hang out off screen
The music archive is finally all caught back up after being over a year behind. As always, if you can recognize any of the songs I couldn't find, you can either post them here with when and what video it's from, send me an email with the info, or if you're willing to sign into google you can leave a comment on the cell with the information. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lN2nn22hwmfBMn_hRl58iv3FmSrCZpkBHzQnlnvXUmM/edit?usp=sharing I'm going to try and stay on top of it this time and update it within a day or two of a video coming out. I just got super burned out after doing 600 some videos the first go around that it made me stay away from updating it.
>>7526 Well well well, looks like my local Grocery Outlet is selling the same gay mayonnaise. I'll try it out later and see if it's any different that the tub mayo I usually buy.
>>8695 Is that Ollie's? I've been there before, wasn't impressed. They always buy out places that are closing and shit so their selection was always a small number of things, but a shit ton of that one thing. Like if I went there looking for shampoo, they'd have it, but only 10,000 bottles of a single kind. The prices are nice but I need variety too.
>>8748 >special I'll believe it when I see it, I'm expecting it to be the same below-par art, animations, editing, jokes, etc. that we've been seeing from SU for a while now.
>>8829 There was a schizo in the /mlp/ thread claiming we were from the Sharty and his posts kept getting deleted by mods. It was probably him submitting a report out of frustration because his incessant rambling was getting ignored.
>>8856 I'm not gonna point fingers at anyone in particular because that's pretty stupid. Judging by the comments on his recent videos there's been a lot of kids finding his channel through the MLP stuff, just clickk sort by new on the comment section and you'll see plenty of them. Odds are a bunch clicked on his videos thinking they were other pony stuff, said wtf is this, and reported it. I think that's the most likely thing here.
Update: The appeal failed, he will reupload a partially censored version on YouTube while the uncensored vid is available on his Patreon. If you're a little tight on cash at the moment you can swing by the Tamers Archive and view it there.
>>8124 Nice work! >>8695 Have you tested its squirting range yet? It's very important to know just how realistic these videos are >>8761 >>8829 >>8870 I can't believe this of all the mlp videos was the one to get taken down >>8856 In case anyone's wondering about that, it wasn't Carlos (you can tell from his tone and ESL grammar). I'm guessing it was the MarioTehPlumber anon. As for the reporting, the sharty has been trying that for a while but their reports were being rejected (probably because their accounts are already on youtube's naughty list) >>8857 I'm inclined to agree. Lots of reports from kids' accounts would make youtube take notice
