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>>1119 Just feels like he didn't want anyone else to play with his character. He said Evan could bring him back but I'm thinking she won't out of respect.
>>1101 Tan legs are canon. They're also cursed >>1041 Huh. I really need to play STALKER, or at least one that's been modified to be set on Mobius >>1042 >god i can't believe i just dumped what is essentially a Sonic STALKER AU All according to keikaku! >>1045 >Tex. Jet's father Another DILF for the collection! Fun fact: there's a painting of Jet's father/male ancestor in his office >>1046 >Man, that sounds cool af for an AU. Thanks! Changing the setting's 50% about giving Enerjak cool lore, and 50% getting rid of the Xorda gene-bomb but keeping the "furries are mutated humans" plot twist. I'll post more once I've cleaned it up >I honestly can’t trust that knowing their track record Fair enough. I really hope you're wrong about the status quo thing, but I don't have high hopes either. While I liked Sage (and the Sonknux moments), I thought Frontiers' plot was worse than Lost World. At least Lost World had some genuine character development between Sonic and Tails that was integrated with the plot. Unlike Frontiers, Lost World's gameplay and artstyle was absolute garbage, and it's actually my least favorite Sonic game >This comic is gay as fuck but that form looks cool I always love it when the artist's lewd thoughts seep into their sfw art >>1071 Thanks, I'll definitely let you know once it's a bit further. I'm planning on making it a PG13 action adventure so it won't get too steamy >>1094 Nice to see you're including Tikal's friend in the comic!
>>1104 I recognize that artist! >>1106 To be fair, we don't know if Knuckles is into that >>1109 Yeah, that's the one that draws Shoggothnic. They're a seriously talented artist >>1115 One of the most interesting things to come out of IDW. It makes sense that Eggman would have a few fans and that they'd be completely unhinged. There's something about this camp vlogging Eggman simp trying to go all chunibyo and menacing was really fun to read. I actually thought his death was pretty good, since it showed just how out of his depth he was, and how little of a threat he posed to Eggman. Of course I assumed he'd have revived using the modified metal virus, becoming a legitimate threat to Eggman and the world in general. I'm still mad >>1119 >>1120 It's super petty the way he handled it. Ian bashing spoiler: I think he killed him off permanently since the gay duck was more interesting than the crying lesbians. Frankly I'm sick of creatives patting themselves on the backs for playing it safe and adding the most milquetoast lesbians they can think of. Make them flawed! Imagine how much fans would love if a new character was introduced that was a Lien-Da-tier walking disaster who happened to be more than friends with her second in command >>1121 Oh man, that'd be so awesome! It'd also be a cool nod to Doctor Zachary from Fleetway >>1122 It fits suspiciously well >>1126 FYI, the board stats are frozen at 13 posts and 2 threads
>>1135 >Make them flawed! Imagine how much fans would love if a new character was introduced that was a Lien-Da-tier walking disaster who happened to be more than friends with her second in command
That's chudspeak, TP. How dare you suggest lesbians be anything but heckin wholesome?!! (lien-da disaster lesbian actually kinda sounds good since I like her as a character) But for real, I kinda always found Tangle to be whatever but she's okay enough with her flaw of just jumping in things without thinking. Pairing her with Whisper instantly degraded her character and a mistake. It's always about comforting the sad awoo. But about Whispers flaws, I know she is emotional and jumped the gun about the duo/mimic thing but the fandom hated that so I can see Evan preventing whisper from making mistakes like that again. >>1138 The popularlity of nine inch tails continues. What a legendary piece of art.
>>1133 >Huh. I really need to play STALKER, or at least one that's been modified to be set on Mobius There are no sonic related mods for the stalker games from my knowledge (or at least from searching sonic in the stalker games moddb pages), closest you can possibly get are probably Meme mods that adds sonic as model/texture replacement for another entity (and looks as you would expect).
At the very least the Engine made for stalker mods is open source (along with sourceports too), so the possibility to make it as such is possible.
Completed the Ring Racer tutorial. That shit was so cash even before I actually played a real course, you guys should def try it. And for some spoilered commentary Kinda cute to see Eggman and Tails work together for the racing machines although Eggman is uncharacteristically nice to Tails. Maybe I'm thinking too hard for a fan game lol
>>1139 >>1135 With bad characters I've think they should be written better rather than just killed off (Ian retooled Fiona from a forgettable Sally-clone to a memorable bad bitch), but Whisper is one of the few characters that I think should just be killed off. >personality is annoyingly whiny and one-note >her tragic past never affects the plot at all like Shadow's did in SA2. Someone just mentions her team and she cries, and then it's back to the main plot >since her past is never important, we have no reason to care about her murdered teammates >Mimic isn't a powerful enough villain for their rivalry to be interesting, especially since Whisper herself is so dull
Even if they did start to write her as tougher and more competent, she'd just be another tough Resistance leader character like they're trying to write Lanolin as. And while Lanolin has famously done jack shit to deserve her "grizzled veteran" status, I still take her more seriously than I do Whisper. She at least doesn't have panic attacks about team names.
Boom Sticks was a crazy jungle girl that lived in the jungle. Prime Sticks is a crazy mechanic girl that lives in the forest. When I realized how much alien stuff was going to be in this arc, I had to include her. Such a fun character that doesn’t get used anymore (unless you want to count mobile games and some Olympic games).
>>1139 I just think they can be lesbians and interesting at the same time! I honestly like Whisper and think she'd work much better being a rookie adventurer that's trained by Sonic and friends, eventually becoming skilled enough to take on Rough and Tumble, who would become her primary antagonists. Also, if they won't make Rough and Tumble a couple, I think Rough and Tangle would be cute and lead to some interesting plots >lien-da disaster lesbian Exactly! Villains are always more interesting, and having them be potentially non-hetero I kinda hate the term queer-coded is a staple of the genre. Scar, Jafar, and Ursula in the Disney animations are way more fun and memorable then their protagonists >The popularlity of nine inch tails continues. What a legendary piece of art. I love that J-Axer knows that it'll always be the crowning piece of his artistic legacy >>1140 Well, I guess I'll have to start with vanilla for now >>1149 I may not be very good at art, but seeing Penders' wispy and indecisive brushstrokes makes me feel a little better >>1159 Sonic fans really are on another level >>1163 That game's dialogue was so much fun >>1164 Horrifying! >>1167 I thought Whisper's initial concept as a mysterious hyper-competent loner was really cool, and I liked that Silver had a crush on her. It's only when her personality turned out to be bland and creepily co-dependent on Tangle did my disappointment start to set in. The fact that they introduced a really cool team for her in a flashback and then unceremoniously killed them off caused me to stop reading the book (unless the issue has Rough and Tumble). Nothing like saying "here's all these cool characters having exciting adventures, aren't they awesome!? Well too bad, they're all dead and are never coming back. Now let's read about the Restoration!" >>1169 Keep it PG13 Sticks!
>>1174 Really nice! It's probably the most amount of definition you can give Sonic without making him look weird or changing to a more anthro design. Their Knuckles is even more buff!
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>>1190 Creepy >>1192 While I didn’t watch nor give a shit to do it, I’m hearing reports of prime being confirmed canon in it. Lmao. Canon autists who care too much on suicide watch
>>1199 Now I'm actually worried for shortfuse now. >I just realized that this is Sonic Forces: British Edition. Sonic's missing, presumed dead, and Robotnik takes over with ease, beating up all the heroes. Not to mention they combined it with SA2 first or even that STC was actually like forces with Sonic being gone for six months through the omniviewer.
>>1202 >Goes to show that the world is fucked if Sonic ever disappears. Sadly true. It's an issue the franchise lowkey has always had but it rears it's ugly head in instances, especially in the egregious case like Forces. All those superpowered and supposedly capable characters but become shit the moment sonic goes away.
Sonic being the one characters look up to and the effort to always make him appear the coolest as possible is a massive detriment. Doesn't help either characters always gotta be thinking or just talking about sonic 24/7. I get he's the main character and all but jeez, it doesn't have to be that bad you know. Makes you wonder how the world functioned before him.
>>1193 >While I didn’t watch nor give a shit to do it, I’m hearing reports of prime being confirmed canon in it. Lmao. Canon autists who care too much on suicide watch They used clips of Sonic and Shadow battling from Prime when Sonic's talking about his adventures with Shadow. As the resident canon autist, Prime's as canon as AoStH and SatAM were when they were airing. They don't affect the games' plot (barring minor references like Sonic eating chili dogs), but Sega is never going to say "don't bother spending money on this Sonic content, it's not important." There's a reason they say "everything is canon," and it's to placate every faction in this very fractured fandom and milk them for all they've got!It's also why Ian really shouldn't be telling fans what is and isn't canon on his podcast. Even if he's correct in his assumptions, it just risks alienating people >>1199 >I just realized that this is Sonic Forces: British Edition Tea and crumpets, you're right! Seriously though, Sonic being captured for 6 months and Robotnik taking over the world was first done in StC, here he forced the Omni-Viewer to trap Sonic in a time warp for 6 months, allowing him to conquer Mobius. If anything, Forces was ripping off StC! >>1203 Hilariously they aren't even consistent with this, since Sonic was going to be eaten by aliens just like the rest of his friends in StH, with Shadow saving the day. They had taken out Sonic, Tails, Omega and Shadow in Forces, and stuck Knuckles in a job he's not suited for instead of putting him on the front line where he could've made a difference. How I'd have written it: I'd have had Amy run the Resistance, Knuckles and Silver on the front line keeping up morale by winning smaller battles, and had Rouge and the Chaotix out looking for the chaos emeralds. Once the emeralds are collected, I'd have Knuckles and Silver trash a large amount of Eggman's forces and almost defeat Infinite, knocking an unconscious Shadow out of his digital prison. Of course Infinite would've pulled some Phantom Ruby bs causing the emeralds to scatter and forcing them to temporarily retreat, since they'd be weakened by the forceful de-supering, and needing to rescue Shadow. Sonic would then be rescued by the rookie while Eggman and Infinite are distracted, and the game would go on as normal since Sonic would know going super wouldn't work on Infinite. Tails would still have his plot about being the older brother to Classic Sonic, regaining his confidence and repairing Omega towards the end of the story. The main changes would be that the Chaotix would be responsible for getting intel that's actually relevant, and Shadow would have a few playable levels with Rouge on support where they track down and fight Infinite, only for him to get away at the end. Throughout the levels we'd occasionally see Knuckles or Silver in the background, winning their own battles (e.g., Knuckles taking down a Death Egg robot in Park Avenue and Silver shielding a bunch of civilians from debris in Capital City)
>>933 ATEOE - Page 3 https://www.deviantart.com/killerboss2 I know it's supposed to be menacing and otherworldly, but crystal!Mephiles always looks like he's in an en pointe ballerina pose
>>1203 And then you look at Archie. Sonic disappears in space for a year, presumed dead, and he comes back and Knothole is technologically advanced and working with the humans, Eggman's still a threat but hasn't taken over, and the only immediate peril was Geoffrey and Hershey about to be executed. >>1205 Goes to show that the Archieverse is the most capable without Sonic. Although they'd eventually get fucked over like if the Xorda came back again. Thank Chip for the Black Arms dealing with those alien autists.
>>1207 Archieverse is also the most established canon so there's just more characters that have been given a chance to shine. The games obviously have been going longer, but there's just way more plot in Archie than any other part of the franchise. It's a real shame since it would be easy to write an engaging story where almost any of the game characters saved the day in Sonic's absence. Tails, Knuckles, and Shadow have all had games where they saved the day without Sonic so it's not like they're incapable of writing this sort of thing
Not too bad. On the commander Knuckles thing, I have no idea why that's a thing they added to him. I get he has some warrior autism (even though in battle it made him look like a rageful dumbass). But Knuckles being a strategic commander? Ehhhhh, Frontiers continuing that made me dislike it more. Operation Big Wave quite frankly made him look like a retard and the others for agreeing to something he made in a minute and a half.
The prospect of other characters than Sonic looking to go super is kinda cool. Male Hedgehog exclusivity on that has always been bullshit. on the phantom ruby thing, I kinda forgot it could repel the emeralds and even the ME. But from what I can remember, that was only shown in Mania, so in forces, no one even attempted to use any emerald like at all to know. While I get it's nullfiying effect, I'm still not sure on the whole illusion things cuz its said to be all in your head but sometimes actually real and can cross dimensions?!! That thing was so poorly defined and explained. What a mess. >>1208 Mephiles has always been a lil fruity >>1208 Can't have that because it threatens Sonic's image!!!! For real, what we need is spinoffs where they do their own thing with very minimal amount of characters going like "whenever Sonic's not on screen, we should ask "what would Sonic do/Wheres Sonic?" Give me a Knuckles and Tails adventure where they hang out!
>>1208 Sega abandoned the idea of sequels and character development which keeps things the same. That's what they want. I know there's a Frontiers sequel coming but I wonder if it will be an actual sequel or if it's the same as the first one in terms of gameplay but the typical story reset. >>1209 >spinoffs This is what the franchise needs. Nintendo has been giving their various characters their own series and there's several smaller series within Mario. Imagine... >tails vs eggman robot making series >knuckles and rouge treasure hunting >blaze windwaker-esque rpg >shadow game with emphasis on combat >sonic mania 2 (fucking sega get your shit together and get whitehead back)
>>1209 Thanks! Yeah, I get that Knuckles being a warrior is why they did it, but Vector, Amy, or Rouge are much more suited to leadership. Knuckles has spent most of his life alone so he's just not got the experience needed to coordinate large groups of people >Operation Big Wave I hate it so much! >Male Hedgehog exclusivity on that has always been bullshit Yeah it's just dumb. Even Dragon Ball has ladies go super, although I'd like more variety in the super forms >That thing was so poorly defined and explained. What a mess. That's because it was originally a shiny blue pebble called the Valtron before they decided to synergize with Mania and have them be the same thing. I like the idea that Tails initially couldn't work out what Infinite was doing, but they really needed to do a rewrite to tidy up the plot inconsistencies. Having them be illusions that can hurt you was fine, but they should've had the characters overcome them, making Infinite powerless and weak >Mephiles has always been a lil fruity No way, he's an epic gamer! Snap Cube Animated: Mephiles The Gamer >Give me a Knuckles and Tails adventure where they hang out! I'd love to see that! The fact everyone only ever interacts with Sonic, or only talk about Sonic when he's not there really hampers their development >>1210 >I know there's a Frontiers sequel coming but I wonder if it will be an actual sequel or if it's the same as the first one in terms of gameplay but the typical story reset. I'm cautiously optimistic! >spinoffs I'd play the shit out of all of these >>1212 And now we wait until KrazyElf or TooDamnCycle get a new lewd idea!
>>1210 >tails vs eggman robot making series Wouldn't that be essentially an RTS? cuz if so i would play that shit. >knuckles and rouge treasure hunting i will 1up you with that. A Yakuza style game with knuckles and rouge, Just imagine the dynamic intros and music, you can even bring up the chaotix for more effect. >shadow game with emphasis on combat Honestly putting shadow in a DMC styled beat em up would fucking explode in popularity.
>>1190 Some commissioned art from flightyalrighty >>1215 >Honestly putting shadow in a DMC styled beat em up would fucking explode in popularity. As one of the few StH (the game) fans, it really only needed better non-gun combat (and a heap of bug fixes and texture improvements). If they'd had the combo system Frontiers had, Shadow would probably be the main character of the series
>>1215 >Wouldn't that be essentially an RTS? There's a number of ways it could be tackled. It could also be something like making stuff in Tears of the Kingdom or Nuts & Bolts. >A Yakuza style game with knuckles and rouge, Just imagine the dynamic intros and music, you can even bring up the chaotix for more effect. >knuckles walks down the street >OI CHOTTO MATTE >Honestly putting shadow in a DMC styled beat em up would fucking explode in popularity. Speed style, gun style, and chaos style. Flashy action pieces and huge bosses that end up becoming normal enemies later.
>>1221 Being honest, the comic has been so mid to me along with seeing some possible plans that looked kinda shit. I can't see them getting that much better.
>>1214 >And now we wait until KrazyElf or TooDamnCycle get a new lewd idea! COMPLETE VINDICATION! >>1221 Oh man, I still need to finish off my STCO reading order (and like 12 other projects) ;_; >>1224 I'm looking forward to watching it soon! >>1226 lmao, it's my favorite IDW comic! Yeah, you can also tell from the way Shadow gets up in Sonic's face in the top right. I could tell it was KrazyELF from the handwriting KrazyELF's sfw comic has that undercurrent of lustful energy too https://the-ride.neocities.org/comics/2022-12-03-sonic-unity/
>Knuckles show has a bunch of radicalized Tumblrites trying to shit on it because "PARAMOUNT SUPPORTS ISRAEL!!" as though trying to boycott Paramount will remotely affect any real world superpower >is outright impossible to discuss on 4chan for obvious reasons God, I despise this fucking timeline.
>>1225 He's actually in it for the majority - people are just exaggerating because Wade is a co-star and gets a good chunk of screentime himself. A lot of them were morons who were still expecting the show to be 99% Wachowski family bonding and 1% Wade even after we learnt what the show was actually about and had multiple trailers.
The rest are radicalized cultists obsessed with culture war politics who are trying to "boycott" Paramount and are saying any stupid shit to make the show look bad.
>>1224 I've watched the first two episodes and am really enjoying it so far. Without spoiling anything, Knuckles is a lot of fun, the references are there but aren't in your face, the fights and cgi are great, and the villain lady's pretty cute >>1225 He's in at least half the scenes, and I never felt like they were padding things out with the human characters >>1234 >is outright impossible to discuss on 4chan for obvious reasons Yeah, you'll get banned by ABIB because he was bullied in school by Sega fans! I haven't even opened up 4/co/ and don't intend to until I've watched the whole thing
>>1236 Finished the show and I really enjoyed it. Spoiler free thoughts: Wade's endearingly dorky and I did end up rooting for him, my Robin Hood husbando Cary Elwes was perfect as usual, I wasn't expecting to see Julian Barratt (Howard from the Mighty Boosh) but he was a lot of fun too. Oh and the soundtrack was 10/10 for me Spoiler thoughts: Absolutely loved the musical number, it's so silly and fun! I wasn't expecting Knuckles to have defeated Iblis and mantle his power. Having Knuckles trick the bad guys into thinking he'd been tricked was fantastic. I wish there was more focus on GUN and less on Wade's family, but it wasn't a dealbreaker. Still, I hope they bring those agents back for the third film Paramount boycott: When they visit Wade's mother it turns out the family's Jewish and they celebrate some holiday/tradition thing. I don't think it's making any statement about Israel, although it does mention krav maga and that it was developed by the IDF. I guess it tries to humanize them, although it mostly paints them as a The Nanny-tier neurotic and dysfunctional Jewish family
>>1234 >>1238 >>1236 >checks /v/ >sees the bullshit .....You know the day 4chan /pol/ gets deleted, thay will be a glorious day. Problem is that the Admin doesn't care.
>>1240 Hilariously, there's almost no talk of it in 4/co/, even in deleted threads (our special friend's too busy fixating on diapers in /vg/ anyway) More 4chan bashing: That's the thing, RapeApe does care, it's just that his vision for the site is an unending sea of shit occupied by hopeless losers. The moderation's completely intentional, and it's all in service of constructing a virtual crab bucket where RapeApe, his mods, and even the jannies will never be made to feel inferior. It's easy to say /pol/ is the cancer killing the site but with the proper moderation it could be a fun place to talk about politics and make spicy jokes. It's also easy to blame the administration (and I do!), but I think the underlying issue is that 4chan got too big, which meant opening up janny positions to the general public. Anyone willing to apply for such a position and climb the ranks to a payed position are the last sort of person you want to give any power to
>>1238 >spoiler It should be kept in mind though that Pachacamac is 100% lying about most of the exact details - claiming the owls were the aggressors who burned down the village and killed everyone for the sake of mindless slaughter, claiming Knuckles was there and fought to the bitter end with the others, etc. Whilst it's very likely that Knuckles HAS in fact mantled Iblis' power, I very much doubt it's like Pachacamac is trying to spin it.
>>1244 >Charmy being a 100% serious straight-laced detective >Cream pulling up the Vector role of not really caring too much but being willing to help This is a VERY weird dynamic but I'm here for it.
>>1244 Their comic's starting! The designs are cute, and it's a surprisingly rare take for Charmy to consider Espio his brother >>1247 Nice! I like the use of texture and lighting >>1248 Yeah, it's definitely a Pachacamac-approved retelling of the events. We know Knuckles was left behind as the rest went off to fight the Owls, and they were fighting because the Echidna wanted to use the power of the emerald while the Owls to prevent its use. I agree that the broad strokes of his fight with Iblis were accurate, but the exact motivations between Knuckles and Iblis might be off. I actually like Iblis being the source of Knuckles' fire-based punches, even if it does mess with the lore a heap. I'm guessing Silver won't be making an appearance anytime soon I also think it's interesting that Wade was able to tap into Echidna warrior abilities. We also saw Robotnik tap into chaos powers with the master emerald, which was confirmed to be possible for game!Eggman in the Sonic Channel art where he goes super. Not sure where they're going with all of this, but it is interesting >>1252 I'll admit I had to look up the polar bear and kangaroo. The Adok omnicanon is just too powerful for me ;_;
Knuckles continues his journey and what would you know? He meets up with Mighty and Ray, another two members of the Chaotix! I think there’s a theme for this first issue! Anyway, looks like Knux has a couple companions that will follow him this time. Spoiler: He’s going to need them for what’s coming next.
>>1256 Hey, it's those guys! I like that the designs are leaning more into their postboot looks, although I'd have kept Ray's arm flaps >I think there’s a theme for this first issue! Fun fact: The first 12 pages of the Knuckles miniseries have him wandering around ruins talking to himself. He also doesn't actually punch an enemy until page 17 of issue 2, and even that was just a robot!
>>1257 The way Penders started up his Knuckles lore has been weird. The Chaotix special was weird but the first story was fine enough. Then the rest of it was just boring shit. Then all the Knuckles backup stories is him walking around and looking for the Chaotix. The first mini was more of the same but Enerjak was great. Then he lost to ants. Again. LOL
>>1260 Yeah, his pacing's always been way too slow. Reading it the first time as an uncritical kid you can sort of overlook it since it promises the answers to all the mysteries are right about to be solved, and no matter how boring it gets it still has Knuckles as the main focus. That said, I'm glad you're moving at a pace that strikes a good balance between laying down lore and introducing characters, and giving things enough space to not feel rushed >Then he lost to ants. Again. LOL He could've just teleported off the rocket! Or jumped down! My theory is being possessed by Enerjak brings out a person's worst traits, but especially arrogance. Dimitri was a scientist that thought he knew better than everyone else, and as Enerjak he couldn't even consider others trying something sneaky. We also see it with Knuckles as Enerjak, where he just wants to protect his people but can't even consider their needs
>>1262 Would've been cool if Enerjak just allowed it to happen because he has a stronghold orbiting Mobius. And when he's ready to mess things up, he beams down himself. He's only mad because Knuckles escaped and he wanted revenge at that time but not wanting to go after him. He's still a scientist so hacking the rockets and making it all work in his favor should be something he can easily do.
>>1263 Now that would've been cool! We still see him laughing in the rocket in the last panel, but he's laughing because the Fire Ants did what he was going to do anyway. I'm imagining his orbital base as something like a Goa'uld mothership from SG1, all sci-fi Egyptian and cool looking >>1264 The only threads have been shit-stirring about Paramount boycott and those have been deleted. Honestly, I think most anons know what happened to our threads and don't want to get banned for discussing the forbidden blue hedgehog. A few anons have been discussing it in non-Sonic threads to avoid the jannies. There's always /v/, but I'm sure you can imagine what a cesspit that's like
>>1272 Clearly they miss our threads! I checked out /v/ and they're still kvetching (hew, hew) about the Jews >>1273 First he does handsome bara Werehogs and Werechidnas, and now this? Oh my! >>1274 Nice! I like the muscles and April O'Neil hair >Imagine if she was wearing her preboot clothing. lmao
It took me way longer than it should, but I finished the Knuckles show! It was pretty alright but ultimately enjoyable for me. I really ended up like Wade and his story and Knuckles helping him. >>1226 This comic is hilarious and screams gay energy >>1234 big oof >>1236 Lmao >>1241 some people truly want to see the world burn
>>1238 The iblis reference was really unexpected. Flames of disaster is quite his other name too. I wonder if they'll expand this bit of lore for the Sonic 06 adaption. Imagine Knuckles meeting up with Elise with them having that same power. I also really want to see movieverse mephiles seeing how iblis was like lol. But i agree on your criticisms >>1247 Cute! >>1252 >>1253 Joe continues to be based >>1255 >>1248 Well Knuckles himself did say there were multiple owls than just longclaw in the show so it's not total bull. Kinda of a retcon from the first when we only saw Longclaw. I hope a future thing finally clears that up and shows it with a proper flashback too. Also thinking about it knuckles did say it came from the heart and all along but who knows. I do like humans can actually have powers in movieverse. thats awesome
Been ages since been in one of these threads, not really got any new Mordred comms to post yet or anything but just wanted to say hope you funky monkey's have all been well
>>1256 It's these two! Liking the pace and prestablished hints to knuckles for further expanding. Really liking it because it doesn't make the entire world feel like it soley revolves around sonic as it usually does. But looking forward to seeing more of the pacifist that cant seem to get of fights and his sometimes timid bro. >>1260 Oh yeah, the chaotix were missing for the longest time and their heads kept appearing in the sky! That shit was wack man. >>1262 Pic related is a good sum at penders problems. >He could've just teleported off the rocket! Or jumped down! God like being but for some reason couldn't just fly down without help. That was weird. >>1263 >Would've been cool if Enerjak just allowed it to happen because he has a stronghold orbiting Mobius That sounds fucking awesome. Nekronopolis but in SPACE! >>1273 >>1274 >>1275 >>1276 These are great. >>1282 >>1283 Hey you posted this twice!
>>1288 >It took me way longer than it should, but I finished the Knuckles show! Glad you enjoyed it too! >some people truly want to see the world burn It's true what they say: misery loves company. Boco's probably the best example of this, spending the better part of two decades malding about a cartoon chipmunk and hedgehog >spoiler Yeah, it seems they're using the flames of disaster as the name of Iblis' power instead of his other name. Oh man, I'd love to see Mephiles show up! >other spoiler I think the events are accurate, but the motivations mentioned are based on Pachacamac's biases. As for Knuckles' power. There's his regular Echidna warrior power that comes from his heart (that Wade was able to tap into) and there's the flames of disaster, which only Knuckles has. I do like seeing humans have superpowers, since it'd be odd if only anthros had them
>>1291 Doing pretty well! I enjoyed the new Knuckles show, and I've been working on getting the anons from the Tamers threads to post here too. I also finally fixed my archives of the plus4chan threads >>1292 >Pic related is a good sum at penders problems. lmao >God like being but for some reason couldn't just fly down without help. That was weird. Yeah, Penders loves writing really powerful characters but always falls short of them doing anything meaningful with their abilities. It's probably why I like the less powerful characters like Remington and Julie-Su >That sounds fucking awesome. Nekronopolis but in SPACE! Well now that has to be part of my AU! >Hey you posted this twice! Yeah, the problem was I'd downloaded them at the same time but got them mixed up since they both had family in the name. Fixed now!
>>1296 that's all good to hear, not checked the Knuckles show myself and just waiting for artist to finish Rava design I ordered so can do more Longclaw based idea's since quite like her. Otherwise planning another pic from Moisesgrafic, either Sonic x Sally or Mordred x Sally. May do both lol
>>1297 For sure my dude. Always best to never interact with schizos >>1299 >rava Oh hey it’s that lizard dude that was gonna be in the movies. He actually appeared in the pre quill comic.
>>1301 yeah, decided to make him into Longclaw's arch enemy that massacred the family she was gonna start after retiring from heroism/echidna warring and he eventually got sealed away. Obviously when he breaks out he wants to hunt down her adopted Son Sonic and finish the score with her. Thinking of making him a bit of a mix of vicious hunter and nihilstic dark sorcerer, though his magic is different from Naugus in less four elements/crystals and more purple lightning, black magic or dark spirit voodoo type stuff
>>1296 > It's probably why I like the less powerful characters like Remington and Julie-Su Me too. Although like penders tended to do, he never treated them all that right. With remington he just dropped the good cop in a city full of corruption, and for julie who got it a bit worse, made a character with the interesting backstory of a former DL, into a girl whose life just revolves around knuckles with lil and rushed her love for him. real shame. But I still do like them just saying they could've been even better and yeah the characters with less focus funnily enough tended to be better. Like harry and wynmacher who I like a lot. >>1302 Nice, sounds cool dude. Doing fan lore stuff with the movie verse is cool and thing that should be done more. lots you can do
>>1303 aye, especially with how major a character Longclaw is gonna be, lot of backstory to draw since she is one of the few people aware of Echidna's bullshit, old powers/deities, Babylonian's/battlebirds and what not, helps she's still alive in my thing, planning to have Jet crush on her as a joke thing and also so he can make banging your mum jokes at Sonic cause he would be that sorta dickhead
>>1304 >planning to have Jet crush on her as a joke thing and also so he can make banging your mum jokes at Sonic cause he would be that sorta dickhead HA! Speaking of babylonians, that's like an actual thing part of the movieverse if small with their text in the owl temple. And I recall tyson saying he made a presentation to connect the two recently. My guess is that the owls were a splinter group among them with the others probably hating them.
>>1305 that does make sense and is a fun touch, though doubt we'll see Babylon Rogues in the movies anytime soon despite how much fun as them being there would be and what out there casting choices they'd get. Owls not vibing with either the bird supremacy would track with how Harvey Who was also very much not having Max's stupid bullshit or poor choices either and how they oppose the Echidna's who are the kings of dumb choices and greedy arrogance
quick rant, fucking hate how discord images now have a lifespan apparently so what was once insanely useful as a ref sending thing to artists is now fucking useless
Came to a realization Sonic isn't my favorite as he used to be and starting to just dislike him specifically the main one for upcoming reasons. Like i understand his deal, muh freedom, muh adventure, muh static character used to help other people grow, gotta go fast. I get it and liked him enough but man has it started to wane with realizing the consistent negative impact he has around other characters resulting in stuff like the useless cheerleaders who can't seem to shut up about him. Sad thing it will just keep repeating despite the empty promises they say they'll be improved in the games. That alone just turns me off from the character and liking his villain more despite being the same type of static character type because he's more entertaining than him. Idk frontiers was kinda of the killing blow for me in feeling this way along with forces and prime's implications. Also I realize my post kinda sounds like something our special friend would say but I can assure I'm not a nutcase
>>1309 >muh static character used to help other people grow Was never about that, other characters are only allowed to do the bare minimum in order to say Sonic "inspired" them to do it with his infinite power and wisdom and Sonic could do it way better and Sonic is the coolest and bladibladibla Frontiers just cut out the middleman and had Sonic "inspire" the shitty friends without the shitty friends doing anything that would steal Sonic's spotlight. It's enough that they just say to the audience that the mascot is the bestest and everyone irl should keep buying his toys and shitty games
>>1309 >that guy when he reads spoiler Is not that you are nuts like him, those are fair criticism to make and are not that new. Problem is that guy is a fucking extremist with a massive hateboner rather that someone that argues in good faith.
>>1311 tldr before it was Knuckles and Tails and Amy do small thing, say Sonic inspired them to do it, say to audience that Sonic is so inspirational and so you should buy Sonic's toys Now it is Sonic gives lecture to Knuckles and Tails and Amy, they say Sonic inspired them (to cheerlead for him while he beats the bad guy), say to audience that Sonic is so inspirational and so you should buy Sonic's toys
>>1299 Highly recommend watching it (and forming your own opinions before the Internet vomits its own at you). Nice to see Rava getting some love, and that you're still working on your AU >>1303 Yeah, seeing regular people like Remington and Julie-Su make a difference without superpowers was a lot of fun. Harry and Wyn were great for the same reasons. I agree the rushed romance and Soul-touching was the worst way to set up their relationship, even if they ended up a great couple despite it >>1305 >And I recall tyson saying he made a presentation to connect the two recently. Nice! I'd really like to see more lore expanded on >>1309 Sorry to hear that. It seems a lot seem to be not happy with his portrayal in Frontiers, especially coupled with the Movienic take on his personality. Personally I like that he's unflappable, but wish they hadn't reset his character growth post-SatBK. Most of the issues I have really stem from all of his friends being useless cheerleaders, which is why I posted my rewrite of Forces here: >>1205 >spoiler Pretty sure BH banned him for being a chode >>1311 I have to agree that they went the "tell don't show" route in Frontiers which is a bad habit Flynn picked up from Penders. I really hope they give the others the time to shine in the next game >>1312 Honestly the guy just needs to chill out, but we all know he loves being miserable
https://www.deviantart.com/scruffiberri/art/Sonamy-They-re-Dating-1046935747 Knowing Amy, this is probably the first time Sonic heard about this. >Based off of a scene from Daily Lives of High School Boys. I watched some episodes, not all. I remember all the boys being weird but the girls are weirder and psychotic. Just like in real life. I remember something about a couple of delinquent girls waiting near a guy's apartment and he notices them and they threaten him and he throws them snacks. They start eating it like animals and continue threatening him.
>>1321 Mighty's such a himbo! Also, I'm pretty sure you're supposed to break up the sandworm fight with at least 3 awkwardly tilted pages of Echidna Lore™ >>1322 >They start eating it like animals and continue threatening him. Women amirite? Seriously though, that sounds deranged and now I'll have to look it up!
>>1323 >Mighty's such a himbo! Also, I'm pretty sure you're supposed to break up the sandworm fight with at least 3 awkwardly tilted pages of Echidna Lore™ I was thinking of adding a flashback to show what happened with the echidnas but I'll hold off on that. Last thing I want to do is start a Knuckles series with that. >Women amirite? Seriously though, that sounds deranged and now I'll have to look it up! Daily life of high school girls - Toshiyaki Here's the scene I was thinking of. Its been a while since I watched it.
>>1324 >I was thinking of adding a flashback to show what happened with the echidnas but I'll hold off on that. Last thing I want to do is start a Knuckles series with that. Yeah, I like that the mystery is being preserved, but not dangled in front of us Penders-style >Here's the scene I was thinking of. Its been a while since I watched it. I thought the clip would explain things, but it just raises further questions!
>>1327 And Ray's lost his arm flaps ;_; Seriously though, it's weird it took until the reboot for them to realize those were part of his official design >>1328 Ha!
This artist manages to make an echidna looking character design that isn't horrific and ugly. Penders should take notes. Also, this artist needs to do better than to name their pages with just the page number when they keep restarting the numbering when doing a new story.
>>1351 >>1352 The PK comics are fucking great. There's a really fun "friendly villain" character called the Raider, an all-powerful alien called Xadhoom who manages to somehow be likeable despite being a crazy-ass invincible anti-heroine, and all sorts of crazy time-traveling, dimension-hopping, space-traveling adventures and more.
I definitely recommend them to anyone who likes crazy off-the-wall adventure comics like Fleetway Sonic.
>>1355 Sounds neat if crazy. I'll check them out later and tbh those duck comics in general as I catch hearings of people liking them a lot for some reason.
The Spider-Girl storytime threads on 4chan have me thinking about 25 Years Later. Mainly what it would look like for my series. It's one of those things a writer would like to do but depending on what story it is and how far into the future it is, there's a good chance it would be rendered non-canon or impose a constraint on the writer as they go along and can't do something that would conflict with their future. It really is something that shouldn't be done unless you're fine with it not being canon.
What I feel confident about showing in the hypothetical 25 Years Later before completing the Genesis Era. >sonic and sally and their kids >the state of the freedom fighters >knuckles, julie-su, and lara-su >the elevated powerlevel of characters >very lightly showing what's going on with the robots Everything else would be conveniently not brought up. Lots of characters whose future I either haven't cemented or not wanting to spoil for a while.
https://www.deviantart.com/alzul-blue/art/Blaze-the-Cat-Possessed-by-Dr-Eggman-1047268734 >Art I commissioned from Hexside >Dr. Eggman had had it. He was tired of constantly having all of his plans foiled by Sonic. Some drastic measures needed to be taken. Deep in thought, Eggman suddenly had a brilliant idea. Why not… put himself on equal level with Sonic? Sonic’s high speed was always what gave the hedgehog an advantage over the doctor. So, Eggman decided to obtain a body with super speed so that he could keep up with Sonic. But who to choose? Eggman had plenty of options to choose from. Shadow, Knuckles, heck, even Amy would make for suitable bodies to take, for various reasons. But in the end, he landed on Blaze the Cat. Her position as a princess, along with her speed and her ability to wield fire, made her an appealing vessel for Eggman to take. Luring her into one of his evil lairs, Eggman would ensnare Blaze in his trap and activate the machine, thus implanting his soul into Blaze‘s body. Now possessing the body of Blaze the Cat, Eggman dons his suit, modified in size to fit Blaze’s body and laughs joyously over all the new sensations he’s feeling in this body. Testing out his new flame powers, Eggman puts a devious smile on the normally calm and collected Blaze‘s face. With Blaze as his host, Eggman will finally be able to destroy that blasted hedgehog! …Little does he know, Silver the Hedgehog had followed Blaze into the evil lair and just heard everything.
>really want to read her comics >need to get through the original ones first I'm actually enjoying those originals ones far, so it's not too bad.
But to this make this Sonic, i'd just wait a bit, focus on the present more, and put a lot more further thought into it than jumping the gun. stuff like actually fleshing out the kids's characters than being and ESPECIALLY looking like clones of their parents with needed redesigns. Jacques and Belle were honestly really bad with that and looked terrible imo.
Personally, I kinda dislike 25 years later in archie. stuff sonic being a king instead of a better suited consort thing, the boring drama and supposed escalation, king shadow, sally barely doing anything in both her future and at the time staying in her castle crying was fucking agonizing, etc. Penders or Ian, just not a fan of it due to numerous reasons and low points for me.
But hey, I'll just say I hope you whatever you do for that and your comic in general is good and executed well. >>1373 This looks like someone's fetish but honestly, why hasn't Eggman done something like this yet? All the power, speed, and the intelligence. Good way to win.
>>1374 Well, it's not like I can use any resources on it. >This looks like someone's fetish but honestly It most certainly is. >>1375 There's a 99% chance this was commissioned by the same person that wrote Sonic's Prank Wars.
>>1374 >Personally, I kinda dislike 25 years later in archie. stuff sonic being a king instead of a better suited consort thing, the boring drama and supposed escalation, king shadow, sally barely doing anything in both her future and at the time staying in her castle crying was fucking agonizing, etc. Penders or Ian, just not a fan of it due to numerous reasons and low points for me. You're certainly not alone there. 25YL is one of the absolute low points of the comic. Pretty much every character does nothing but stand around talking about the impending terrible calamity. It's like how IDW spends all its time on buildup with no payoff, but even worse since it has all of Penders' echidna wank.
>>1380 >Putting a vile creature in an area where he could potentially and easily cause a massive level of chaos no amount of Powerleveling could fight against. Unless this is a punishement for the Zone cops not being able to do their job, i'd spare them the horror.
>>1376 >There's a 99% chance this was commissioned by the same person that wrote Sonic's Prank Wars. Oh boy, investigation time! So it was commissioned by kaiserdarken of their OC Solaris the Dragon, a mostly empty tumblr that posts gifs that look similar to the ones posted by SolarisDragon on DeviantArt and InkBunny. All three make mostly empty posts for holidays too. I have to agree, it's almost certainly him
>>1355 Looks like I'll have to check them out! >>1358 That's why I recommend archiving everything. The Internet's increasingly at the whim of a few megacorps and they're increasingly hostile towards users >>1360 I'll have to start posting updates in the horny thread! >>1367 ;_; >>1368 Wew! >>1372 I always thought a MXYL would make a great epilogue to the comic if it was treated like a timeskip instead of a possible future that's obviously going to end up contradicting the events of an ongoing comic. Really all that was needed was for us to see the characters living their happy endings and showing the next generation becoming heroes in their own right >Mainly what it would look like for my series Just be sure not to make Remington a pizza delivery man with horrific facial hair or I'll riot! >>1374 >This looks like someone's fetish but honestly, why hasn't Eggman done something like this yet? All the power, speed, and the intelligence. Good way to win. He did in Boom at least! It was a lot of fun seeing Roger Craig Smith and Mike Pollock playing each other's character >>1380 If it helps, Sonic more than gets what's coming to him in that story >>1382 Hanging out with Scourge would be genuinely fun
>>1388 Yeah, I'll have to reread it too. I do remember Sol the Phoenix being handsome and Dulcey being stacked ;_; >>1393 I think that was the comic set in Forces where Sonic wears Aladdin pants, has top scars and rescues Cream. I did just find out that they have a twitter, which they made sometime after we storytimed their comic: https://twitter.com/Purpleboye_
>>1401 >top scars Part of me wants to ask "Why SONIC of all characters?", but the rest of me knows that you could ask that same question about a dozen other things this fanbase has done.
>>1401 >I think that was the comic set in Forces where Sonic wears Aladdin pants, has top scars and rescues Cream. I did just find out that they have a twitter, which they made sometime after we storytimed their comic: I already know about that one. But I found the post mentioning it. >>>/4chan/co/135771403 >Purp_derp is making a written adaptation of Sonic Pandemonium >IT LIVES (kinda). I do wonder if that was planned and then scrapped. Or maybe a side thing and now that it's done it's back to working on the comic.
>>1405 I think people latch onto Sonic for all sorts of reasons, but mostly because he's confident, kind, and heroic even in the face of overwhelming odds. It's also fairly common for people to give him some of their own traits, to make him easier to relate to which is probably why I interpret Sonic as flirty and bi. Honestly, I don't get the hate for top scars, especially considering the horrors other artists have inflicted on the franchise. Seriously, there's a guy that's been drawing Sonic characters as sentient toilets for over a decade >>1406 >I already know about that one. But I found the post mentioning it. Ah, that'd explain why I added their ao3 account to the website >I do wonder if that was planned and then scrapped. Or maybe a side thing and now that it's done it's back to working on the comic. Looks like they worked on it from 2023-02-27 to 2023-05-22, but didn't finish it. I'm just glad the story's going back to comic form, I don't have the attention span for reading fanfics!
>>1393 >>1401 The Sonic Pandemonium guy actually DID do it as a purely text story over on AO3 at one point and it got further than it did as a welcoming, but then he stopped. My guess is that he was already planning to do the next arc as part of the webcomic but wanted to write it out so he could follow it as a script or stopped because of lack of inspiration.
>>1199 The only reason Fleetway Sonic won't kill Robotnik is because he still thinks he can bring the original Kintobor back. And in fairness, it happened once so it's not even unjustified like some other cases of a hero letting their villain live.
>>1456 Even Shortfuse decided not to kill Robotnik in an early comic. And of course the famous scene of Tails given a chance to JFK him but refusing to do so. Which was fine because it was a test and he passed for turning down the made up chance.
>>1425 >Forelock I hate to say it, but I like his outfit designs for Sonic >>1436 Yeah, it looks like he swapped from comic to fanfic before deciding to continue the comic again >>1467 I think the real question is how did an anthropomorphic unicorn end up getting a job at IDW?
>>1436 >>1406 The written adaptation went on hiatus while he was working on the comic. It's more likely to get updated now that the comic has another entry.
>>1344 My favorite over-explanation for this is that mobians can instinctively manipulate the chaos energy of the environment to create personal pockets of space to store items, this is also the place where rings go. Most mobians are only capable of carrying small things and not in large quantities because it causes a certain strain, but some have the talent to carry more and bigger things. And this curious ability only works if there's chaos energy in the environment, which is almost always because the Emeralds are usually scattered all over the world and their range is that huge.
random apprecication time, but I really like Lara-le's look in RTAI. It's her best one, and also for kneecaps that lil bit of fluff does wonders surprisingly. Shout outs to Jon Gray for that, I like his art on archie a lot. >>1479 Oh my god... He used to draw decently before, why does he insist on doing it like this? I hate the way he draws those eyes so much.
>>1489 Jon Gray did a lot of great art. You could say it was unfitting for an arc as dark as RTAI, but for some reason that never bothered me. Maybe it was just a relief to not be looking at Ron Lim art for a change.
>kneecaps While we're randomly appreciating things, I've always liked this fanart of him.
>mid levels >shitty mach section >bland af cutscenes between elise and sonic thats supposed to be "touching" >silver appeared with his godawful boss fight
I dislike this game more and more as time goes on. The only consistent good thing about it is the music.
https://www.deviantart.com/wario-girl/gallery/89430531/the-pasta-night-bet-comic-series Normally I just make bookmarks but this one is a doozy that I might not tackle. It's a 3D model comic series featuring EXEs of Sonic and Mario characters as well as a lot of busty women nearly naked and entirely naked. It's also 585 pages so far and started in 2023.
Things are falling apart on the Wing Fortress. All sorts of trouble is happening and usually the Battle Bird Armada are the ones making trouble. Sally’s doing her thing and Eggman is about to do a thing!
>knuckles just appears in soleanna for no real reason Yep this game is really starting to be bullshit. Tails and Amy I can understand, they’re his biggest bootlickers in the games. But Knuckles? Literally why. He did not need to be in it. This game pisses me off and I haven’t even finished Sonics campaign yet.
>amy thread on 4chan gets instantly deleted Big oof. >>1566 I can kind of see that. I feel bad for artists that look like their art is AI when it isn't.
>>1480 This is 100% my headcanon too. All Mobians being able to manipulate chaos energy to some extent is also my explanation for their enhanced durability and why characters like Rouge and Tails can fly despite their wings/rotors being too small >>1489 >Oh my god... He used to draw decently before, why does he insist on doing it like this? I hate the way he draws those eyes so much. On the plus side if you look at his drawings in reverse chronological order it looks like he's improving rapidly! >>1491 I wish we got to see him doing cool stuff in MXYL (or really anyone doing cool stuff) >>1498 That image just aged me 1,000 years >>1501 Be sure to save often, it doesn't do autosave! The game's actually pretty fun once you work out how to play around the bugs, but be prepared to die often in the mach speed sections. When you get into the Silver boss fight with Sonic, DON'T run forward towards those rings. You need to keep your distance until he starts throwing chairs at you, and then attack him before falling back again. Also, when you get to the final billiard puzzle with Silver, look up how to cheese through the door with a crate instead. Or just play project 06 instead since it fixes all the major bugs >>1546 Oh yeah, the generic stock asset pack npcs! >>1551 >The only consistent good thing about it is the music Fun fact, the Latin chant in the final boss battle is actually meaningful (vid related's a little too literal for my tastes, but gets the general message across) Solaris Phase 1 Lyrics + Translation English Sonic 2006 >>1552 Every fancomic means every fancomic Konductor! >It's also 585 pages so far and started in 2023 Genuinely the scariest Sonic.exe thing I've ever heard >>1554 I still maintain the bad guys would've won years ago if they'd just stop putting air vents in their bases and fortresses >>1558 >knuckles just appears in soleanna for no real reason He knew his boyfriend and girlfriend were in the area, of course he'd be there! Seriously though, Sonic, Tails, Knuckles and Amy are all there to see the festival >>1564 If only they'd gone with Maekawa's original script, then he could marry best girl Caliburn >>1568 I still can't believe they make Knuckles' puppet dad an unholy amalgamation of Locke and Penders
>>1569 I'm looking it up but there's no indication for knuckles being there for the festival. He's literally just there because the plot said he needs to for the obligatory team sonic appearance.
>>1570 Tails and Knuckles are both in Soleanna and Sonic isn't surprised to see them so I assumed they were all there to enjoy the Festival of the Sun. Personally, I like the idea that they regularly take vacations together when they're not fighting Eggman, which id something they seem to do during the Riders games
We know Sonic and Tails first meet Knuckles in the New City when they're about to look for Eggman after Elise's (second) kidnapping. Knuckles gives Sonic a holographic message from Eggman, where he offers to trade Sonic's emerald for Elise in White Acropolis. This means Eggman has to have known Knuckles was in Soleanna to give him that message, despite Eggman only arriving the day before to Kidnap Elise (for the first time) during the festival
It's not explicitly stated, but the only way Eggman could've known Knuckles was around was that he saw him when scoping out the festival
>>1586 F. Now I have a terrible feeling Okida will kill Shortfuse next ;_; His murder lust won't be over when he goes to kill off cosmo and tails' love life >>1587 I guess. Like I have made my share of complaints about frontiers pretending he never left. But it just kinda feels off for 06, like a lot of things I'm feeling and know it'll get worse when I play further on.
>>1589 >F. Now I have a terrible feeling Okida will kill Shortfuse next ;_; Nooooo! >I guess. Yeah, 06 is an ambitious but deeply flawed game, mostly due to Naka's departure, impossible deadlines, and splitting the team in half to develop Secret Rings when what they needed was more time and resources.
One positive I'll give 06 is that while the plot is a mess, they did let Maekawa write the dialogue so at least everyone's in character. Frontiers, while mostly in character, felt a lot more like the characters were explaining their motivations instead of demonstrating them through their actions. A Maekawa-written Frontiers would've been absolute kino
Genuinely one of the worst bosses I've ever fought in this series. Not like this series has good bosses but still. And the lead up to this was the terrible white acropolis, crisis city and flame core. Fuck those board sections. >>1590 Does that include making the characters like Knuckles and Tails boring as shit knucklehead and tech geek with no real chemistry with each other, other than asking "SONIC WHAT WILL WE DO NOW?!?! WE NEED TO PROGRESS THE PLOT, SONIC!" Great stuff, I see the vision! Yeah I'm being passive aggressive but this game is putting me in a bad mood, plus finding that guy overrated anyway, and just me realizing knuckles and tails barely have anything other than sonic. I'm starting to believe the claim team sonic have great chemistry has a group is kinda bullshit when it really revolves around circlejerking over one person.
>>1593 The final fight between Iblis and Silver was just as bad. I just don't get how they could make such a cool monster design have such boring fights. Thankfully they fixed it in vid related >white acropolis It's so intuitive, you pretty much have to look up videos on how to get past the final jump on the snowboard >Great stuff, I see the vision! Honestly I was talking more about Team Dark's interactions, since the plot was already written, with Maekawa just doing the dialogue >spoiler YOU TAKE THAT BACK ABOUT MAEKAWA! Seriously though, their best interactions are in S3&K, the OVA, SA1 through Heroes, and the Riders games. >>1597 I hope you made the right choice, and picked Elise
>>1598 Only notable thing I remember from those is that very brief scene of Knuckles teasing Tails and knuckles not understanding the technobabble from riders 1 but that's it. I guess my problem is that it seems like they're "friends" for the sole mutual interest in Sonic than each other. Unfortunately a thing you can say about alot of apparent relationships in this franchise. I at least hope the movies can give me that since Tails and Knuckles are closer than they usually are. kinda unfortune knuckles series only had knux really interact with sonic at the start which disappointed me a bit. I hope 3 gives me that knuckles and tails fill. >I hope you made the right choice I did!
>>1601 Yeah, it's not much, but it is better than the mainline games. I guess I just like the idea that Sonic, Tails and Knuckles hang out together even when the world doesn't need saving. Some games are obviously worse than others, but there's a real issue of the entire cast primarily interacting with Sonic or Eggman, and ignoring each other. Generations is easily the worst for this, with the final battle just being Sonic (and Sonic) fighting Eggman (and Eggman) while everyone cheers them on from the sidelines.
I actually proposed a Sonic version of the Bechdel test (must feature at least two women, they must talk to each other, and they must talk about something other than a man) a while back. To pass the Sonichdel test, a game must feature at least two characters that aren't Sonic or Eggman, they must talk to each other, and they need to talk about something other than Sonic or Eggman. Games that pass: SA1 (Knuckles and Tikal) SA2 (Shadow and Rouge, Knuckles and Rouge), Heroes (Team Dark) Shadow (obviously), 06 (Team Dark), Unleashed (only if you count the NPC sidequests), Frontiers (barely, since Knuckles and Tails have one conversation together that isn't about Sonic) Games that fail: Colors, Generations, Lost World, Forces (unless you count the Shadow DLC)
100% agree on the movies, it's nice to see Tails and Knuckles actually interacting and I hope we get more of it. Even Boom didn't give us much Knuckles and Tails interaction, with the OVA being the only animation where they actually hang out without Sonic >spoiler Yeah, I wish they'd turned up in the aftermath of the last episode >I did! We all know Sonic canonically lusts over human women! >>1599 I imagine it's pretty exclusive, but that all the main cast have standing invitations. Vector visits the most (which is why he's always broke), and Espiio tags along too when they're working a case. Amy and Blaze go there for a girl's night out, but only when it's quiet. Sonic drops by when there are human dancers, and likes to drag Knuckles along to make him flustered. Shadow and Omega live above the club when they're not on a mission, but probably don't visit the actual club very often.
>Sonic's story honest to god end with a love song Sonic the hedgehog 2006 "Sweet Dreams ['AKON Mix]" Music Request Okay it's honestly a banger but I've never been so baffled from this franchise in my life. I know about the kiss but never that and shocks me more. They were really fucking 100% serious with the romance between the two. Too bad it's shit like the rest of the campaign with the following
>sonic feels awful to play with his pointless gimped spindash, bounce and homing attack >shitty levels with glitches galore with shit gimmicks like boarding, mach speed, and the amigos who feel terrible to play (tails makes level design a joke with his flight but that's always been sorta the case in 3D games) >said shitty levels have moments to stop everything for terrible combat sections full of enemies with health bars >AWFUL bosses >shitty hubworlds (forest being the emptiest and largest one for no fucking reason) with ugly af graphics, humans, and locales >more on the graphics, lots of visual clutter making it hard to look at sometimes for levels >town missions are mid (sonic mans was kinda funny but pathetically easy to beat) >upgrades range from get you killed to super situational >story is super generic recuse the princess with elise constantly getting captured >said princess is bland and boring as shit with no real chemistry with sonic, who's equally as dull >really weird/forced romance between the two, sonic gets a bit fluttery around her
Welp, that was terrible to play. Bad gameplay and story focused around a dull princess they desperately wanted you to care for. Her dying from the egg carrier failing, which never gets explained, was funny. Elise, worst red head princess fr. not even conductor would touch her... maybe... To be a lil positive, I liked the music and radical train. It was kinda fun even if mach speed ruined the end of it. on to the next shitty campaign with edgy hedgy, i'm saving weed dude for last
>>1603 >not even conductor would touch her... maybe... I feel compelled to use her in some way. But that won't be for a while so I have time to think of something.
>>1604 Would be based if you had Sonic take a look at her and say >”DAMN THAT BITCH IS FINE!” With Elise saying the same I kid I kid. Whatever it is you do, it’ll probably be better than what 06 did with her.
>>1600 >Okay, you were saying....."The time has come, and so have, I'll laugh last 'cause you came to die, The damage done, the pain subside, And I can see the fear, clear, when I look in your eye" >....The fuck?
>>1409 I think usually people hate the top scars cause it really doesn't fit or suit a character like Sonic or they generally just hate the existance or presence of that sort of thing in any media or fandom space to be blunt
>>1409 >>1615 It's just kind of an odd thing to project onto a cartoony superspeed video game mascot. It's a little like going "BTW, Kirby has a cochlear implant and is a card-carrying member of the deaf community" or "Mario is a proud cancer survivor."
>>1603 >Sonic's story honest to god end with a love song Yeah, they were absolutely pushing Sonic x Elise until the backlash >sonic feels awful to play with his pointless gimped spindash, bounce and homing attack They just ran out of time for this one. He actually plays better in the demo, especially the homing attack >shitty levels with glitches galore with shit gimmicks like boarding, mach speed, and the amigos who feel terrible to play (tails makes level design a joke with his flight but that's always been sorta the case in 3D games) Controversial take, but I actually liked the level design. They were going to fix a lot of the control issues for the non-Sonic characters but obviously gave up to make Unleashed instead. You can see traces of it in the DLC, where Tails actually moves faster >said shitty levels have moments to stop everything for terrible combat sections full of enemies with health bars They've been trying to get combat right in Sonic for ages and still haven't learnt that more enemies doesn't mean more fun >AWFUL bosses Playing as Silver fighting Sonic is kino, but the rest range from boring to barely playable >shitty hubworlds (forest being the emptiest and largest one for no fucking reason) with ugly af graphics, humans, and locales I actually really like exploring Soleanna, but the forest is garbage (and even worse when you play as Silver since he's really slow). The humans are look like asset store generics (and probably are) >more on the graphics, lots of visual clutter making it hard to look at sometimes for levels This happens a lot in Sonic games, but they make some progress in Unleashed, despite having more things on screen >town missions are mid (sonic mans was kinda funny but pathetically easy to beat) Sonic Man's supposed to be easy! The rest are generally pretty boring, although Shadow and Silver have some fun ones >upgrades range from get you killed to super situational The upgrades are just leftover dev testing stuff since they didn't have time to make anything actually good >story is super generic recuse the princess with elise constantly getting captured Yeah, it needed a complete overhaul >said princess is bland and boring as shit with no real chemistry with sonic, who's equally as dull I thought they were cute together, cute! She is pretty dull in most scenes though >To be a lil positive, I liked the music and radical train. The music's great, and most of the levels are fun if can you ignore the mach speed sections. I personally really liked Tropical Jungle. >on to the next shitty campaign with edgy hedgy, i'm saving weed dude for last In case anyone's wondering, the canonical order for play is Silver, then Sonic, then Shadow >>1610 Ha! >>1615 I personally think scars are cool so it doesn't bother me, but I can see why others feel it clashes with the base canon and takes them out of the story. I feel the same way when people try to insert modern events (and especially politics) into Sonic stories
>>1590 >Frontiers You could definitely accuse it of having too much expository dialogue, but I did like how Sonic himself was portrayed as being a little more mature and down-to-Earth. Like when he said "We're bringing them peace" about the Koco, or how he was mostly on the receiving end of Knuckles' attitude.
Some people might prefer a cockier Sonic or find him more fun, but I like a more thoughtful lead.
>>1602 >Sonichdel test I kekked. >I guess I just like the idea that Sonic, Tails and Knuckles hang out together even when the world doesn't need saving While I did give riders a bit of shit for the knuckles and tails thing, it does show this at least. >>1617 >mention of multiple comets I get the feeling that Eclipse might appear.
>>1626 >Truly one of the best programmed games of all times There is not one Sonic game which was not a buggy piece of shit, and I'm saying that as a gigantic fan of the (early) games.
>>1623 Yeah, I do like the more thoughtful take on Sonic, it's very much in line with his SatBK characterization. I think a lot of it's due to the voice actors and voice direction in Frontiers. You can really hear Sonic become progressively more strained as the game goes on >he was mostly on the receiving end of Knuckles Wew! >>1624 >While I did give riders a bit of shit for the knuckles and tails thing, it does show this at least. They really do need to have more games where the cast are able to interact. The somewhat lower stakes of the Riders series is also nice >I get the feeling that Eclipse might appear. I certainly hope so! >>1626 I'm actually surprised the game plays at all. It seriously needed at least 6 more months of dev time
>>1628 >I'm actually surprised the game plays at all. It seriously needed at least 6 more months of dev time The best version of the game (or part of it) is the 360 demo for it. Because the demo that Sega submitted was so bad that Xbox turned it down until they fixed it. And then the final game on all platforms had bugs that the 360 demo didn't have.
>>1629 The demo runs faster, doesn't crash, and has better physics than the final game. Unfortunately, they didn't have time to propagate the bugfixes from the demo to the final version as the code had diverged too much and they didn't have the resources to reimplement it. I'm pretty sure they knew about most of the major bugs from the platester reports, but couldn't do anything about it. I will say the final 360 version is better than the ps3 version, but that was true for most games in 06-07 since the cell architecture of the ps3 was wildly different to PC or 360
Look at these two sluts just sluttingly walking around like this! I actually can't believe the sheer dedication and amount to paw edits there are from sonic ray. So weird.
Finally "contributed" to the IDW thread. >>1635 Ha! >>1636 Just think, if he makes enough of these we'll be able to train an AI to improve every Sonic comic!
>>1017 Nectar: The World Before 87 https://www.deviantart.com/icys We're on arc 2 now! Also: ENTER MAMMOTH MOGUL™, star of his own comic book, dvds and trading cards!
Completed Shadow's story and it was mediocre shit. It shares alot of the same problems with Sonic but has it's own share of bullshit. >making the terrible, tedious, combat an even bigger part of it constantly >shitty sometimes pointless vehicles return with shit mandatory sections at points >even more of the shit fly over everything stages with rouge >omega is playable, while feeling not too bad to move around as, is just more combat shit
was just not impressed with the story. Everyone was dull as hell. More Dumb time travel shit and dumb shit like omega somehow defeating shadow even though earlier it was stated omega couldn't be interfered due to rouge's command. Did he beat shadow's ass then go back to sleep to later help him? Just nonsense. It's also a rehash of the previous game with the whole "I'm edgy, the hedgy, no one tells me what to do" with mephiles (who I'll get to bash eventually). even before SA2 and Heroes, Shadow already had Shadow say he's himself no matter what, despite the other reused dumb amnesia plot. like hell, with the previous examples, archie then doing it, generations looking to rip off archies rehashing with black doom return. all to end with the same result of shadow saying fuck off. Nothing interesting or anything not already played out will happen. Just "MEMBER THIS?!" slop. Goddamn, all shadow has is rehashing. Which to think about it, is this entire franchise too. TLDR: I did not think it was that good.
But If there was anything I kind of found interesting to point out, was that Shadow was explicitly a GUN agent in this. Even some of NPCS are from GUN and will give you missions with one having past history with shadow. Strange how he was apart of them and then dropped that aspect forever from the games. What was the point of even doing that then?
>>1644 I actually found Shadow and Silver's campaigns to be more fun since there aren't any mach speed sections. Shadow's regular fighting moves are fun to use, but really needed some tweaking so it's not just stun and homing attack. I never really got the hang of his chaos powers though. Easily the worst vehicle section for Shadow is Dusty Desert, especially on hard and very hard modes. It doesn't help that it's immediately followed up with a section where you have to stay balanced on top of large pipes. It's not as bad as the Eggmanland Werehog pipe section, but that's not saying much! Oh and speaking of Unleashed, pic related
Contrarian take, but aside from the low running speed (there was supposed to be an upgrade to fix this, but it was never implemented) I genuinely enjoyed Silver's playstyle. The havok physics were kinda janky, but it could work so much better now. He'd definitely need a better way to dodge projectiles though. I highly recommend looking up the more advanced techniques for Silver since there's a lot of interesting stuff you can do with him
>>1647 Forget to mention one major thing, the ending having shadow pull the unlocking inhibitor rings thing out of his ass was pure bullshit. Never hinted at once in the story or before in the games. Makes the already mid story and "hype" moment more shit.
Well, this is an interesting pair! Maw was briefly used in the reboot Archie comics, working for Eggman and thinking that he was doing good by taking over the planet. Some would say that Maw and Finitevus served as a combination of inspirations for Starline. Maw was working on the Metal Virus, a story originally meant for Archie but was carried over to IDW. Also he’s an Australian (and extinct) species. So why are they a couple? Because people would wonder if they were if they weren’t.
>>1650 Evil gay couple? With evil kids? Based. That sort of representation is truly the kind we need! Being more serious, neat to see these two in this working together. >looking for some secret lab place in the desert wonder if they'll encounter a wall of fire that parents like to jump into
>>1647 Posted before reading your comment >making the terrible, tedious, combat an even bigger part of it constantly I agree, it was pretty tedious. They really needed to better integrate the teleports behind you, nothing personnel kid" moveset. >shitty sometimes pointless vehicles return with shit mandatory sections at points I'm in the minority that thinks vehicle sections could be fun, but they're just never implemented in a fun way. Their movements are always clunky and frustrating >even more of the shit fly over everything stages with rouge What's more annoying about Rouge (and knuckles) is her inability to detach herself from the wall. Aiming bombs as Rouge (and Tails) is awkward and slow too >omega is playable, while feeling not too bad to move around as, is just more combat shit I like his moveset, but having to constantly hold down the button is downright painful
The story obviously needed a rewrite, but I did enjoy the fact that Shadow and Mephiles are only enemies due to temporal paradox. It was also nice seeing Shadow Rouge and Omega hang out. As for Omega, the only reason we think he turned on and captured Shadow is because Mehpiles, the king of gatekeep, gaslight, girlboss, told us. There's also the issue that that Omega along with the sleeping Shadow was from the original timeline before Shadow and Rouge were teleported to the future so Rouge hadn't reprogrammed that Omega yet. That's the problem with time travel plots, they always end up a mess.
Yeah Shadow joined in the aftermath of his own game, but this is the only game where we see him actually be an agent. Rouge technically isn't an agent of GUN (and never has been), but is on loan from the President's office. They mostly dropped GUN since Shadow only shows up in Generations (where they aren't relevant) and Forces (where they only wanted to focus on anthros). At least the movies brought GUN back!
>>1649 They were part of his original design in SA2, but they never ended up using them. They did make them a part of Sonic X though. I will say that one thing I loved about that scene in 06 was they played Shadow's le motif
>>1650 I've been patiently waiting for this page to be posted publicly! I really like the ship, especially since villain couples are always more fun
>>1651 >Evil gay couple? NGL, some real relationship goals right there >With evil kids? Clearly Surge and Kit have been brainwashed by the gay agenda!™ >spoiler Ha!
>>1651 Not Haven but another secret base that Penders introduced. >>1652 >I've been patiently waiting for this page to be posted publicly! I really like the ship, especially since villain couples are always more fun I wanted to make some change to Knuckles having an evil scientist villain so why not double up? >>1653 Maw.
>>1654 >Not Haven but another secret base that Penders introduced. I'm guessing this one is the place where they stored all their tech like genesis consoles and vcrs when Edmund forced them to go no tech >I wanted to make some change to Knuckles having an evil scientist villain so why not double up? It's a good choice, especially considering neither of them got to live up to their potential in Archie/IDW. Now that I think of it, we barely saw Dimitri ever do any science stuff. The most we got was when he and Robotnik were massively out of character and decided to swap Sonic and Knuckles' bodies instead of just killing them >Maw. lmao, platypussy
>>1657 >Sage: Father, what is Grindr? >Eggman: Well, you see Sage... It's like my social network Scramblr, but... >Sage: Why does it appear to track the locations of homosexuals but only display pictures of their unclothed torsos? >Eggman: I'll, I'll tell you when you're older... I'm gonna murder that gay duck
>>1608 >A Sonic the Hedgehog have never done anything such meaningless to anybody! If I had a nickel for every grimdark Sonic fancomic with great art and shit translation....
>>1650 you know what, these two do oddly work as a villain duo and as a couple, wise choice to pair them in both meanings of the words. I'll be kneeling and praying you add Mordred Hood to your fan comic lol
>>1669 I mean depending how and when you want to introduce Amy, Rob or maybe Antoine's family line oor rivalry with Cortez if you include him at all could be when you pull the Mercia card
>>1552 Since I was checking out this comic, I started getting recommended more 3D Sonic comics on DA. At least they're not fat or BDSM fetish art. >>1672 It would likely have to be merged into a game story.
>>1672 I think an Antoine-centric arc would work well to introduce Mercia. If we don't at least get a Grifone cameo I'll riot! >>1675 >At least they're not fat or BDSM fetish art. Give it time! >It would likely have to be merged into a game story. Tails' Sky Patrol maybe? Antoine gets word Mordred's got a new witch ally and they're got some mind control-themed plot to strengthen Eggman's hold on Mercia (really they want to take over the world for themselves, and then betray each other). Tails recognizes Wendy and offers to join Antoine since they have unfinished business. It'd be mostly Antoine and Bunnie tackling Cortez and Mordred with the help of Rob, while Sonic, Tails and Sally tackle Wendy and her witchcarters
Another delay IDW: >Sonic the Hedgehog #70, Sonic the Hedgehog - Spring Broken! #1: 06/19/24 » 06/26/24
>Spring Broken coming out in the summer heh
>>1703 >So how has this board been in the last few weeks ? Fine >Any attempts at bringing in new people ? Kinda with the Tamers thread for them to post in. But not much, although this place is kinda inherently slow. Not that it's too bad, at least for me
I have some initial things to say. Silver's gameplay as I got from the other times is shitty, slow, with mediocre platforming mixed in. And his entire campaign is gonna be like this... At least Blaze who you can play as in the first mission surprisingly feels good to play as. Fast and her homing attack isn't shitty like the others. Speaking more about Blaze, WHY THE FUCK IS SHE IN THE FUTURE?!?! She's just here in this game for some god awful reason. And then not only that she doesn't say fucking anything about silver trusting creepy fuck mephiles. It's retarded just like Silver. This story is gonna have so much bullshit, but that's to be expected.
I actually forgot Amy was in this game until she did the lame "WAIT YOU'RE NOT SANIC" gag on silver. she's so forgettable and I have no idea what she adds to this story like with knuckles. Anyway, played as Blaze again and double checked if she was good to play as. And she was! Best character by far gfameplay wise. Although her personality so far is looking real dull and boring more than she usually is. Not liking how things are so far.
>>1719 was that game ever ported to PC, by the way? All I remember is the story being stupid even by Sonic Adventure standards, and that Eggman had a bitchin' new design.
Look who's doing Sonic art again! >>1701 Zac's so handsome, and a perfect addition to the DILF collection! >>1704 >Kinda with the Tamers thread for them to post in. I think that one's been pretty successful considering we've only had two Tamers videos released since I created it >>1712 Look at all of Elias' adoring fans! >>1716 Fun fact: He says "great!" every time you hit an item box so make sure to hit rows of them! >>1717 >WHY THE FUCK IS SHE IN THE FUTURE?!?! Because this is her initial incarnation. The one from the Rush (and all other) games is her second incarnation. Blaze tries to seal away Iblis in another dimension, but her body can't handle it so which leads to the creation of the Sol dimension where Blaze is a princess that looks after the Sol emeralds (likely the crystalized remnants of Iblis' power) >She's just here in this game for some god awful reason. A lot of people think she's a figment of Silver's imagination since she never speaks to anyone else and no one else acknowledges her >>1718 Blaze does play better than any of the other speed characters once you get the hang of her abilities >>1725 They were going to, to the point where it's mentioned in several articles. Obviously they never did once they realized what a trashfire it turned out to be. It's probably hard to tell now, but back before it was released, 06 was supposed to be a Sonic Adventure-tier game that pushed Sonic's gameplay forward and introduced him to a new generation of fans. They'd even started initial work on Silver's spinoff game, although that was scrapped too
Just found out one of my favorite lewd non-Sonic artists did some cute art of Movienic! Warning degeneracy: Highly recommend checking out Kumayaki on twitter/e-hentai/etc if you're into anthro bara doujins with a comfy and fun atmosphere
>>1728 >Look who's doing Sonic art again! It was only a matter of time. >I think I might take down the Sonic Future AU comic. As far as I know, everything has been posted. The Sonic Future stuff is in the thread on /co/ here and the other AUs we covered in Unofficial Storytime threads on 4chan. >Im still proud of it and enjoy rereading it from time to time, but theres some story elements I wanna redo regarding Zee, and I dont want the comics presence on the internet to confuse people. And it sounds like we'll get another series that's close to Sonic Future so not one of those wildly different AUs. Those will just come later.
>>1735 Everything's been posted and archived, although I probably should make organized downloadable versions. I feel completely vindicated for archiving every art account of the comics we've covered! Seriously though, I kinda figured the comics would be getting purged since that seems to happen when they go all in on animaniacs/toon comics. Not sure if we'll see a purging of the mean_bean identity and the creation of a new one that does Sonic art again. Not that it matters, I found the last two and those were purged completely Still, they did say they're going to do a short Sonic comic around Christmas. I refuse to get my hopes up, we've been burned too many times >spoiler lmao
>>1736 I hope it's different enough to warrant a full reboot. It's probably going to be the usual Sonic/Shadow/Zee shipping. After several unfinished AUs, it'll be hard to get invested in anything new.
>>1728 Knowing their ADHD, this is only temporary >The one from the Rush (and all other) games is her second incarnation No, Blaze is from Rush is her real first self and she's not from the future God I can't wait to dunk on that stupid iblis reincarnation crap, just you wait. Playing the game is making me slowly understand why some blaze fans rightfully call the idea terrible
But for real, those two but evil would actually be a huge problem. Since Tails is edgy, he gets a competence boost and now you have someone as smart as Eggman if not smarter since you know, "potential" that basically has Sonic's moveset and flies. Sonic is Sonic but since Tails is with him, he'll make sure to cover or compensate whatever flaw or need Sonic has.
>>1759 An evil Sonic would just be a very strong guy roaming around, but an evil Tails would be as resourceful as Eggman when it comes to all the stuff he could do and create.
And to make things worse, outside of the comics there aren't any tech guys on the side of the good guys.
>>1760 Yeah, that's why it would be such a busted combo when you think about it. I think it all comes down to the fact that the 2 most powerful forces in the setting are "Chaos Energy/Magic Rocks" and "Super Science" something those two are very good at. And true, not having a smart guy that can come up with solutions to problems that can't be solved by punching harder or running faster is a HUGE disadvantage.
https://www.deviantart.com/silsy >sonic uses the chaos emeralds to go back in time to save shadow... likely to plap him It's good that there's still plenty of new Sonic fancomics. While it looks like it has around 80 pages, it's in webtoon format and some are just a single panel. Oh well, bookmarked for later.
“Gerald”? Is that… could it be… nahhhh! And Tails has discovered a napalm bomb! What’s he going to use that for? We’ll cross that bridge when we get to it. As for Sticks showing the chaos emerald, it’s fine. AI Sally stealthily followed Sonic and Tails. Whoops!
>>1766 Sticks is the catalyst for Tails' genocidal tendencies... Also I NEED a textless crop of the six panel for reaction image purposes pls. For shushing people ya know?
But kek man, sommersbys seem to keep getting involved with important things in some way. But the deep lore keeps getting more intertwined, I like it. Also AI Sally, they're fucked.
>>1767 Sonadow Sonic is usually being clingy and touchy on Shadow that doesn't respect personal space. Sometimes he's even oblivious to what he's doing. >>1768 >Also I NEED a textless crop of the six panel for reaction image purposes pls. For shushing people ya know? No problemo.
>>1737 Yeah, I wouldn't mind a streamlined reboot, but I refuse to get my hopes up for an ending
>>1738 I was being a little cheeky with that spoiler, and while it's probably not what they're going for anymore, 06 Blaze is the pre- Solaris-reset version. We're never given any indication that she's a princess, or that she's from another dimension. Her personality's also nowhere near as developed as in the Rush games. All we really know is that she's been friends with Silver for a while, tags along on his adventures, never really interacts with anyone else, and ultimately sacrificed herself to save the future, disappearing from the timeline
It's safe to guess that since Silver doesn't recognize her in Colors (DS), Rush!Blaze has never lived in the future after Solaris was defeated. I'm only really arguing that the timeline reset altered her backstory so she's now the princess of the Sol dimension and while she doesn't recognize Silver in Colors, she does feel some sort of connection with him. Honestly, I'm guessing they were going to clear all this up in Silver's game, but it was canceled so they just dropped whatever they were going to do with it
>that image Ian seems to be implying that that Blaze is the one from Rush and is just visiting from the Sol dimension (for whatever reason), but they just never explain how she got there, never show the Sol Emeralds, and never have her recognize Sonic, Tails or any of the other characters. Light Ian bashing: Ian gets so much wrong about the games I only ever listen to his takes on Archie. I don't actually fault him for getting things wrong, since he's all about Archie Sonic and not the games. That said, he needs to improve his professionalism and stop offering obviously bad takes on game lore when it's not his area of expertise. After all, he's the one that said there are two worlds that they travel between using dimensional gates that are never seen or mentioned and that was clearly a load of crap
>>1751 I was thinking of posting this one! >>1754 lmao, making them evil always makes them cooler and more handsome >>1756 Tails is almost taller than Sonic! >>1759 The only way to conceivably beat them is for Eggman to join the good guys. Together they're the fastest/most powerful and smartest (living) characters in the entire setting >>1765 Nice! Still, I wish the fujos would give SonKnux more focus >>1766 >why is there a napalm bomb?! You're not fooling anyone Tails, we all know you'd have installed one anyway! I really love the way the artist draws Sally in the upcoming pages >Gerald I can't wait until he turns up in a bowling alley vision quest hallucination! >>1767 Sonic's always made out to be the needy bottom to Shadow's grumpy top. I'm just glad KrazyElf and TooDamnCycle make things more varied and nuanced >>1770 Relationship goals!
>>1751 HEELS also nice to see tails with bombs >>1752 why does tails have a gun? is that how it all started? >>1757 Ok i have a feeling that the entire reason why this au exists is because Tails somehow has made a gun that can shoot bullets faster than sonic could ever outrun, and has now forced him to join tails forces and now they are all edgy and shit.
>>1772 >Nice! Still, I wish the fujos would give SonKnux more focus There really isn't that many comics on it. Just that one where they go swimming but that was unfinished. >>1774 Sus!
>>1772 >Ian seems to be implying that that Blaze is the one from Rush and is just visiting from the Sol dimension (for whatever reason), but they just never explain how she got there, never show the Sol Emeralds, and never have her recognize Sonic, Tails or any of the other characters.
I know you bashed Ian but this nonsense is entirely from Sonic Team and he's the messenger for it. Never forget he also says things can always change on a whim, which people always seem to ignore.
Always thought it was pretty clear he hated the two worlds things that came from some higher up telling him. And if he was just constantly lying all the time about those things, don't you think he would be fired and removed from being associated with the franchise years ago? Ian isn't perfect as no one is, but a pathological liar? I don't think so.
If I recall correctly, there's an infamous quote from Iizuka saying no one remembered Blaze while she was in 06 because "they have amnesia or something lol". Her inclusion was always forced bullshit but i'll get to bashing that more later. if there's anything solid about Blaze that she actually is from another dimension and not the future.
>>1791 >Victor Ehhhh, I still think Abraham Tower is the best and coolest name for the guy despite just being the commander in the games. But jeez this guy is racist as hell >"How DARE you have an affair with the furfags, Maria!!" Despite him being an asshole in this, I kinda do like the gray the character has. If anything Archie team dark should have had that more as they were given the Codename for a reason. Not all secret government ops work would be happy.
>>1808 Despite all the shit we give idw, can’t deny how consistently good the art is. Now I wonder if we’ll see humans in this world race arc. Would be bull if they didn’t.
>>1793 What’s going on here? Those lights on the bottom look like the emerald colors too. >>1794 Every page makes me dread on what’s gonna happen >>1807 This comic just keeps being dark. Jeez.
>>1782 Wew! >This is exactly what TP wants but with one glaring issue. In this case I'll make an exception for 3 toes! >>1786 lmao >>1787 Lesbians have the least aesthetic flag >>1791 >This version of Tower continues to be the worst version. It's like he's trying to out-edge Shadow >>1808 They should've had Rough and Tumble enter the race, and not just because they're the best characters! Comic relief villains are perfect for wacky races hijinks
>>1810 We'll see Shortfuse in IDW before we see background humans >What’s going on here? Those lights on the bottom look like the emerald colors too. It looks like he's got all 7 chaos emeralds, and that Sonic's death at the hands of Mephiles has had some odd effects >Every page makes me dread on what’s gonna happen It's gonna be so gross, and we haven't even gotten to Sonic yet ;_; >This comic just keeps being dark. Jeez. No offense to the author, but this comic is ProfessorMegaman-tier in how it rubs me the wrong way. The previous one was bearable because it was short (and funny) but I don't even think we're halfway through yet
You know what, speaking of nega. You know what bothers me? This take I've seen that Ian writes Eggman like Nega. Like what do people actually say when they say that shit? Ian writes the guy has always wanting some form of control. Even with the metal virus which people say is somehow too far for Eggman, when it's another form of the total control like in colors.
And yes, Eggman is a monster and while usually doesn't like to destroy everything so he has something to rule, he would fuck up space and time just to kill sonic because he's fucking insane. Not to mention some of his other crimes. Plus he already has the extreme soreloser aspect as seen in adventure. Nega is eggman but boring and lame as shit.
>>1818 >>1819 Whenever I look at Eggman Nega, he looks like he's one of those funky grandpa types that says "daddy-o", snaps his fingers while striking poses, and his boss music would be techno swing music.
>>1837 This is so gonna lead up to him appearing. At least I hope it does. Along with that fleshing out and good writing they gave to Hope in this too. I want to see Shadow trip balls with his bro from the hallucinations again goddamnit
This many pages makes me think you should use the fancomic thread for those idol amy pages since they update with those bundles >>1861 Sonic choking himself out?! lol wut >>1864 Look at that dork. >>1866 Eggman is faster than Sonic but is too lazy to fully commit to it
>>1846 Same. I've got so many lewd and Sonic-adjacent comics to do ;_; >>1860 Plot twist: Knuckles leaves Rouge for Sonic and plaps his depression away! >>1864 The ultimate simpform >>1868 >This many pages makes me think you should use the fancomic thread for those idol amy pages since they update with those bundles Yeah, I think chapters and batches of pages released at once work better there >Sonic choking himself out?! lol wut He just wanted to hear the drowning music >Eggman is faster than Sonic but is too lazy to fully commit to it He's surprisingly athletic
Looks like the new Tamers episode will heavily feature MLP characters, which is honestly pretty great for driving interest to our threads here >>1870 lmao >>1873 It's best girl Regina! >>1878 And best Archie ship!
For those not in the know, Charmy in the Archie comics is 16 (and a prince) so he’s not the kid of the Chaotix. So that falls on Ray. He loves danger and adventure. Maybe a bit too much. And as you may have noticed from the previous page, Starline's glove seems to be missing something. But it still has plenty of uses on its own.
https://www.deviantart.com/candypspeedoficial >sonic boom comic >in spanish >sonamy >... >straight up porn for a good part of it >on deviantart Great googly moogly! That's not going to last forever.
>>1886 I have! Honestly, the worse 4/co/ gets the better it is for our threads here >>1887 Sonknux is my favorite ship (after myself x Remington), but there's no denying the WilyEgg is objectively the best romance in all of Archie. Seriously though, for canon ships I like Sonally, Buntoine, and Snively x Regina. Max x Locke too since it's basically canon they're having an affair >>1888 You just know Starline's a massive Dune fan. Probably because of Sting in those winged briefs, wew! >>1889 Nice! I'll archive it for posterity
>>1890 >Nice! I'll archive it for posterity If they have a patreon they might have a twitter or FA account or something. So even if they get nuked over uploading Sonamy porn then there should be other places to find it.
>>1892 Thanks! Looking into what the glove on its own can do is pretty interesting. There's three phases of things it can do. With the Warp Topaz it creates portals, without it it does hypnosis waves, and then there's the Tricore to replace the Warp Topaz. And yet the glove itself doesn't have much information on it. I couldn't even find a name for it. I've read the IDW issues but it's been a while for the early ones and it's mostly a haze for me anyway.
>>1895 >Lost World Tails pulled his weight and literally saved the day by hacking Eggman's machine but he was a jerk the entire time so he's put into "barely does anything" tier. I rather get that than Forces Tails tbh
>>1913 >want to browse sfw art >have to swim through a sea of unrelated garbage to maybe find something >want to browse nsfw art >dozens of thousands of images categorized in detail by like a hundred tags each I thought that porn made people lazy and unfocused.
>>1913 >go to look at some art on xitter >use the media tab to avoid words and retweets >Every piece of art is interspersed with thousands of photos of their food Fuck the pain away, my bed is in ruins ;_; >>1914 >categorized in detail Can you believe the twink tag on e621 got absorbed by the femboy tag? And dad bod got absorbed by musclegut They're completely different things!
Well, the tamers thread archived over on 4/co/ and good news, I was able to post several horse webms without them getting deleted, or getting banned! Also, they're not deleting my links to plus anymore! >>1924 Noooooo! That scene has lived rent free in my head for so long I don't know what life would be like not hearing it
>>1859 >Sonic rejected Amy >Amy finally moves on with her hammer being broken and no more reason to hold out for Sonic >Sonic ends up coping and seething about it for YEARS >finally decides to focus on Shadow instead >Shadow couldn't give less of a shit about him, is instead focused on Amy Lmao. Idol AU Sonic can't fucking win. This is like that one Sonic panel where Sonic freaked out over Amy being with Shadow and went full "BUT SHE'S MINE" over it.
>>1822 I also don't know what they mean by that. Like, Eggman has ALWAYS been a monster. A goofy one sure, but this is the same guy who shattered the planet, enslaved an entire solar system to create mass mind control juice, outright caused a global war in Forces with the full plan to torture then murder Sonic, etc. Eggman has always been a horrible person and only works with Sonic when circumstances align to do so.
If anything, Nega's only difference is that he's honest about just wanting everyone dead.
>>1954 Locke: explains it through echidna legends that just makes him more confused Lara-le & Wynmacher: be 100% honest and explain everything with coming out more knowledgeable
>>1929 Oh my! >>1935 Yeah, they should just stick with this one >>1939 Calm down Shadow! >>1940 He's very intelligent when he's not thinking with his platypussy >>1941 The Idol AU has constructed the perfect storm of a love triangle and I'm loving every minute of the drama! >>1942 Agreed. Nega's more overtly sinister than Eggman, but they're both irredeemable monsters. They're both utterly ruthless in getting what they want, but while Eggman (both Archie and Game) want to rule the world, all Nega seems to want is its destruction at his hands >>1944 Yeah, we've been burned too many times >>1946 Ahem! >>1728 >Zac's so handsome, and a perfect addition to the DILF collection! To paraphrase Rouge: All the world's DILFs are mine! >>1949 To be fair, Game Knuckles probably never had the talk >>1950 I hope you include an NCIS-style tandem typing at the keyboard!
We've almost hit 1.75 million visitors for the website, but more importantly, we're now the 420th most popular site on all of neocities! >>1958 I mean, he's not wrong! Seriously though, messing up stuff like this is one of the reasons I think Locke genuinely is having an affair with Max. He really does seem like the sort of guy to enter a hetero relationship out of societal/familial obligation instead of genuine romantic interest, but is also pig-headed enough to not realize other hetero couples actually do experience romantic attraction
>>1960 Same. It's almost a shame the Konductor wants to write Max as a good person. For Archie, you wouldn't need to change much of the comic, just add some more explicit hints that their "alliance" went a bit further than anyone expected. Hilariously, even leaving things as is is unironically a more compelling and explicit romance than whatever homophobic and awkward shenanigans he was trying to pull with Rotor.
Penders bitching: I'm still mad he wanted to write Sonic as homophobic, especially considering every version of Sonic is all about freedom and they all have a live and let live attitude. Not to mention he canonically was fine with kissing Knuckles in the play in Archie and canonically married Robotnik in AoStH. Obviously those were jokes, but a homophobe wouldn't have made them. It's almost as bad as when Penders said Sonic doesn't even like Tails, and just keeps him around to stroke his ego. The guy just does not get Sonic
>>1963 Archie Sonic can be rude to his friends (especially Antoine), but it’s just how he interacts with people he likes. He always immediately knocks it off when there’s real danger or one of his friends is hurt. The most I could see him doing is lightly ribbing Rotor about not finding him attractive. He’d probably make bear jokes about the Acorn Guards though
>>1956 At this point, it may as well be a love rectangle since it seems like Sonic DID like Amy but it's now turned into loathing so he projects that former affection onto Shadow who couldn't care less and is actually into Amy, who is into Sonic and then it loops back around on either end.
Really, Idol Sonic should just get over himself and fuck both, but we know he won't because he's a fucking coward and a jackass.
>>1702 >>1968 Whoops again. This one's page 81 >>1967 He's just the worst, and that's what I love about him! >spoiler lmao, it would solve all the issues
>posted several pony webms in the 4/co/ Tamers thread >they didn't even get deleted >post one (1) hot but hoofless pic on /mlp/ >get a warning You win some you lose some! I've found I can get away with a lot more using webms provided the text is innocuous
>>1974 They really are hilariously petty. I still laugh when I think about the time you posted that comic page with Rotor and the Rotorbro-obsessed janny deleted it
>>1975 It was really bad when that happened while I had my name on. Could never use my Rotor reaction image because that got deleted the one time I used it as well.
>>1976 It's so bizarre, especially considering Rotor's pretty much the least offensive and controversial character in all of Archie. Fun fact: we know the guy's a janny and not a mod since he used to delete my homoposting whenever Rotorbro would drop by. Mods can ban by IP so they wouldn't make that mistake
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1790411753286688804 >Join special guests including Takashi Iizuka, Kirk Thornton, and @stephaniesheh > at our Anime Expo panel all about Shadow and our upcoming animation Sonic x Shadow Generations: Dark Beginnings!
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>>1979 We already know how he came to be. They strangled the franchise for a good while just to explain that shit, and they're doing MORE?! Fuck i'm tired of that convoluted shit keep being brought up
So I finally finished Silver's story. It was bad. Shitty gameplay and story all around. Slow ass psychic platforming that isn't even good. Amy becomes playable and she's the absolute WORST to play as. Basically her adventure gameplay but even shittier with invisibility thrown in for her moveset. Similar how she's just thrown into the story for good reason. She's there for Sonic's cock and thats it. Ugh. Blaze plays the best in the entire game. Actually enjoyable to an extent, too bad you barely play as her.
for the story, it's a massive waste of time and I don't like silver to be absolutely honest. He's a fucking unlikable idiot, and when the one time he questions what he's doing, he goes back to trying to kill sonic until shadow kicks his shit in. Never want hear again "muh later media made him dumb and makes dumb decisions" when he was like that from the start. With the massive waste of time part, silvers goal was to change the past but then just goes to the future to deal with iblis. What a load of shit.
I think something that makes me even more mad is Blaze in the story. Blaze the entire story is DULL and BORING as FUCK! She's basically Silver's sidekick the entire story. She also literally talks to no else but silver and no one really ackowledges her existance. She too doesn't say shit at the mephiles deal despite game shilling as the ""smarter"" out of the two. Not even Sonic when he sees her. Despite that she only talks to Silver they have no fucking chemistry at most she's just his nanny wrangler who doesn't even help him in the games fights. She then dies and we're supposed to feel sad but I didn't in the slightest because of everything I said before. And yeah, i've seen the stuff about blaze creating her dimension and blah blah blah. The idea is fucking garbage and fuck anyone who even remotely thinks it's good or humors it. Blaze in 06 is the definition of forced like being in the future just because. shit like that theory is a thing people like to use to say silver and blaze are star crossed lovers or some shit. But again, it's built off something where they have no chemistry and is forced every time. The fact in appearances afterwards they have characters keep saying "THEY'RE TOTALLY HAVE CHEMISTRY GUYS" in shit like colors ds/idw, etc, is shit. blaze really is reduced to just shitty sidekick armcandy to silver everytime too. Very sad how this will just keep happening forever.
>even in 06 they pull the we can't save shit without you sonic thing Just wow. Telling me Knuckles couldn't have gone super with the other two guys? Bullshit.
I finished Sonic 06. It was awful, to no ones surprise. Games ends with Sonic fucking dying, and elise bringing him back through making out with the dead animal. To then end with a shitty super forms boss fight with then Elise blowing out the candle. Making everything that happened pointless.
Just terrible. People were completely right to shit on this game. Boring ass story that takes itself way too seriously. Awful gameplay and levels all around along with my other criticisms. Hot take, but people were also right to shit on the friends being playable. They were honestly always kinda mediocre to play in the previous 3d games and them in 06 was peak shit. Not to mention they were written badly and I can see why people didn't want to see them for a while. alternate playable characters needed to go to focus on sonic gameplay first. Too bad Sonic Team failed even at that but still.
I also want to bash on Mephiles, the big bad of the games, and say he's perhaps the overrated villain to come out of the games. The fact that he could time travel to any point and use one emerald to summon the other ones, but decide to dick around for no good reason when he could have fused at any point says alot on how retarded he really is and the writing in general. They wanted to make a mastermind villain but made him out to look like a moron. Furthermore I don't think the writers truly understood when saying Solaris exists at all points at all times, meaning they should be really fucked, but that goes for a lot of the time travel nonsense too. Mephiles is overhyped as fuck and in the same tier as Nega. But he gets praise anyway despite not being that good. I would not be that shocked if they use new SxSG time travel plot to bring him back through that fuckery with the time eater. Hell, they might even say it's him and have some secret cutscene saying he made it through or some shit. Idk but it could happen.
>>1981 Now you know why a lot of people hate the pairing to begin with.
>Never want hear again "muh later media made him dumb and makes dumb decisions" when he was like that from the start See pic related
>Blaze plays the best in the entire game I got that feeling when I watched someone's gameplay of it. Was it copied from some other Sega game or did she just get a coder who was inspired to do something cool with her ?
>And yeah, i've seen the stuff about blaze creating her dimension and blah blah blah. Have you seen those attempts at associating her universe to the Babylon civilization ?
>>1984 >Now you know why a lot of people hate the pairing to begin with. very true >I got that feeling when I watched someone's gameplay of it. Was it copied from some other Sega game or did she just get a coder who was inspired to do something cool with her ? She’s pretty fast and her homing attack is fast too. Making fights go quick which is a godsend > Have you seen those attempts at associating her universe to the Babylon civilization ? On occasion. Kinda interesting but just not a fan of things connecting her to silver as said before. >>1985 Good for him
>>1983 >alternate playable characters needed to go to focus on sonic gameplay first Come on, no one wanted them entirely scrapped away just for Sonic gameplay. Sega followed this path and everyone bitched for years asking why they couldnt just make a game like Sonic adventure 2 Battle.
>>1987 Nothing inherently wrong with having playable characters in a game. Just that 3d sonic ones were kinda mid and 06 was the breaking point. They dragged down the experience and people wanted a more focused one with just sonic. Can’t entirely blame people for thinking that after playing them for myself
>>1979 Here's my question: When are you hacks going to bring back best boy Maekawa to make your stories cool again? I kid, I kid... mostly >>1980 They wanted to keep the "Shadow might not be the real ultimate lifeform" plotline, but didn't want to make it Sonic so they hard pivoted to Shadow possibly being an android in Heroes instead, but still never resolved it. Then they made his backstory even more convoluted in StH, and only confirmed he's the original Shadow in a few lines of dialogue that you'll likely never hear in the final battle with Black Doom. At least 06 just let him put all that nonsense behind him and just do Team Dark stuff >>1981 I actually liked Silver's gameplay (apart from the slow movement speed), but I can see why others would hate it. My guess is they would've sped up his gameplay style to be more Sonic-like in his own game >He's a fucking unlikable idiot He really completely boxed in by shoen-tier "we must fight, because reasons" plot contrivances. It's pretty bad when we have to glean most of his characterization from his theme song. Still, I did like when he and Amy hung out for a bit >Blaze the entire story is DULL and BORING as FUCK! I'm still not 100% convinced she's not a figment of Silver's imagination. She never actually interacts with anyone but Silver and doesn't possess any knowledge Silver doesn't >silver and blaze are star crossed lovers or some shit There's some Tanabata-themed Sonic channel art of them so Sonic Team seems to think it's the case. Honestly, they'd need to interact way more to have any chemistry >>1982 It'd have been a cool twist to have Knuckles or Elise go super with the other two and save the day. Then Elise would have had to blow out the candle to save Sonic's life at the expense of their memories together >>1983 As the resident Sonic 06 apologist and fan, I'll say most of your criticisms have been valid. It's ultimately a barely working prototype for an extremely ambitious game they were never able to deliver due to Sega executives being morons. Everything from the story, to the level design and gameplay needed at least an extra 6 months to get things right >Mephiles is overhyped as fuck Fun fact: Sonic doesn't even know who Mephiles is until after he's revived, so from his point of view he just got backstabbed by some random crystal dude
>>1984 >I got that feeling when I watched someone's gameplay of it. Was it copied from some other Sega game or did she just get a coder who was inspired to do something cool with her ? Ironically it's Silver's gameplay that was based off of a scrapped shooter game Sonic Team was making that featured human soldiers with psychic abilities >>1985 Good to see he's doing some non-Sonic writing >>1987 They kept spreading themselves too thin programming characters with different gameplay styles, to the point where it's almost impossible to detach yourself from the walls when playing as Knuckles or Rouge in 06. Of course what fans wanted was for them to spend one game fixing Sonic's core physics issues before attempting to fix the gameplay of the other characters, but Sega interpreted it as "no non-Sonic playable characters, and no friends contributing to the plot"
Forgot to mention, Game is centers around the hedgehog trio, but as an actual group, they just don't have any chemistry. Problem stems from Silver who doesnt have any real chemistry with Sonic or Shadow. It's just "lets do thing plot wants us to". No idea why people praise it as great. It's shallow. >>1995 >Honestly, they'd need to interact way more to have any chemistry As mentioned, we've seen how they interact after 06 plenty and it's just as forced and demeaning to Blaze. Just fundamentally bad forced duo that should be abolished forever. >spoiler TRROOO FRARRR - somebody at Sonic Team >Fun fact: Sonic doesn't even know who Mephiles is until after he's revived, so from his point of view he just got backstabbed by some random crystal dude That is crazy to think about. No connection between either of them despite being the main hero and villain of the game. What were they thinking.
>>1997 As far as Locke was concerned, it was. She was someone he got along with socially and that met the approval of the council of secret grandpas. I genuinely believe Locke doesn't get that most hetero couples experience anything more than platonic affection. Throughout much of history, marriage was seen as a duty and that the best you could hope for was to find someone you got along with and perhaps eventually develop feelings for. As for Locke, history's littered with examples of men who had a wife and kids, but saved their passions for a close male friend >>1999 Up until the last story, the three hedgehogs are never even in the same room together, which really hampers their interactions. >No idea why people praise it as great. The story parts I like are Team dark getting to interact, Team Sonic getting to interact (even if it's not much), Silver and Amy hanging out, Mephiles being a jerk, Shadow kicking Silver in the head, and Sonic and Elise's romance. The actual story's convoluted and barely utilizes the large cast of characters >As mentioned, we've seen how they interact after 06 plenty and it's just as forced and demeaning to Blaze. Just fundamentally bad forced duo that should be abolished forever. They barely interact even after 06, which is really the problem with every character that isn't Sonic. They could make Sivaze interesting and compelling if they wanted to, but they just don't. Frankly Sonaze got more screentime >TRROOO FRARRR - somebody at Sonic Team Maekawa Master Plan or bust! >That is crazy to think about. No connection between either of them despite being the main hero and villain of the game. What were they thinking. And then they did it all again with Infinite in Forces! >>2000 The perfect 2000th post!
>>2006 Seen them interact in idw. just more of the same forceness. blaze dropping everything to baby silver and using sonic to say they're totally "great" instead of anything natural, pretty egregious. But I'll try not keep repeating endlessy about the duo for now. >And then they did it all again with Infinite in Forces! It'll be a while until I get to forces again, although I thought he was actually lame even though being lame is supposedly the point of him. Villians who tend to have beef with Shadow in the games tend to suck, huh. Black Doom, Mephiles, and Infinite. Just mid.
>>2007 >Seen them interact in idw Oh man, my condolences! I honestly don't get the point of IDW. The characters don't act like their game counterparts and they don't act like their Archie counterparts either. I honestly stopped reading any non- Rough and Tumble pages after they killed off the gay duck. I really hate Silver's uwu softboy personality and that Blaze doesn't get to do very much since they keep shipping her off to the Sol dimension >I thought he was actually lame even though being lame is supposedly the point of him. If Shadow's the ultimate lifeform, Infinite's the ultimate chuunibyou. He doesn't have any beef with Sonic at all, and yet never even gets a final confrontation with Shadow, who killed(?) his teammates and humiliated him. Really the only cool scene he gets is the one where he defeats Sonic
>>2010 >The characters don't act like their game counterparts and they don't act like their Archie counterparts either. They barely act like anything, IMO. Sonic and Tails aside, the game characters are either offscreen or they're ALL ONSCREEN AT ONCE, trying to share the spotlight. You'll either have an arc where the focus is on the comic OCs or you'll have an arc where the entire fucking game cast is there, even characters who shouldn't be in the current timeline/dimension like Blaze and Silver. As a result, none of them really gets much focus or development.
Archie had a shit-ton of characters, but it divided their storylines up a lot better. The main strip would focus on Sonic and the Freedom Fighters, and then Sonic Universe would focus on Knuckles and the Chaotix or Team Dark or whoever. You didn't have Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, the FFs, Team Dark, the Chaotix, Eggman, Snively, the Dark Legion, Naugus, Scourge, the Anti-FFs, and the Super-Special Backup Reserve Malaysian Freedom Fighters all showing up in one single arc.
>twitter now redirects to x.com Well fuck. Now I'll have to update all of my bookmarks and scraping scripts ;_; >>2011 In a lot of ways, they're just like Sonic Team: constantly overcorrecting for past blunders. Either we'll get almost no game characters interacting with Sonic, or we'll have ALL of them, but they since they just stand together in a crowd and clap for Sonic saving the day, they might as well just be a generic crowd. I'd be fine with them focusing on OCs, but they're all either bland or villains >Archie had a shit-ton of characters, but it divided their storylines up a lot better Exactly. Every game/anime/etc with a large cast knows to split them up into small groups so every character can get a chance to shine. As much as I would have liked to see Remington in every issue, him getting the focus in the few issues he appeared in was much better than being some background benchwarmer
>>1983 >alternate playable characters needed to go to focus on sonic gameplay first. And that's what we got. To the active detriment of the entire franchise at a level 06 WISHES it could have caused. But I'm sure "the shitty friends" crowd were pleased as punch :^)
>>2013 >But I'm sure "the shitty friends" crowd were pleased as punch :^) Colors was surprisingly decent and I can see why people were happy about the focus on just regular Sonic. Sonic 4 coming out at the same time certainly helped make it look great in comparison. Of course, they overcorrected and instead of just doing one back to basics game, they went Sonic-exclusive and friends-irrelevant up until Frontiers >>2014 Until I saw Tamers' vid I wasn't even sure there were male ponies in the show. Now I'm 100% behind the BraeMac ship and am seriously considering watching MLP >>2015 Sonic characters are just built different
More himbohog from Killerboss! >>2018 >And then Surge gets Silver to say a word that gets him cancelled Now there's an IDW issue I'd read! >>2019 At least they're having fun together
>>2030 >Zone-1989 >A Zone where Robotnik/Eggman is actually a good guy >Sal & Ivo, two tough cops for the tough city of New Mobotroplis >Follow them as they unravel a crime cartel that stretch from Mobotroplis to Station Square >If Captain Hamlin doesn't kick them off the force.
I just had a thought about something According to those very real movie leaks. There's a time machine in space and that's possibly the Ark or some part of it. Probably something Gerald made at some point. So I had this idea that 50 years ago Gerald made his. Later on someone else interested in the manipulation of time, maybe inspired by geralds work, do it in their own way. That person being the duke of soleanna and their method of it was using their living Flame god. Hence the Solaris project in the movie verse.
Poor Battle Lord Kukku XV! He thought he had the upper hand but everything is spiraling out of control! (Almost) everything is going according to Eggman’s master plan! He better watch out because Kukku isn’t someone you’d want to mess with!
Oh almost forgot, here is Rava the Destroyer's design that I commissioned. May tweak some details when comm other artists to do him but what are your thoughts?
>>2047 not a bad idea honestly, my main idea was smoothening his head and elongating the face like Joeadok's one art he did of him, since want to differ his physique with the cast by being thin and long. Also yeah you pretty much nailed the singularity of suck that is Silver perfectly, couldn't of said it better but certainly more spitefully lol
>>2048 see what you mean. Seems he drew i based off the concept art for him. IMO I think the scales give it a bit of extra OOMF to the design. the two tone it brings just looks good I think.
I thought my rant about his affect on blaze was very spiteful. I'm not actually a blaze fag but the effect he has on her just makes me mad. A character should not be forever chained to a mediocre one like that
>>2049 yeah as a massive Blaze fan it is quite a burden the creation of pothead, there is an undeniable correlation with her being shunted to irrelevance after seeming like the next major character since Shadow and the introduction of Silver, why being a Poison Ivy enjoyed is also difficult lmao.
Also yeah the scales could perhaps be slightly damaged or scattered on his body to sell the idea that he has been in numerous conflicts with Longclaws and maybe could tie into the dark wizard/warlock imagery
>>2050 >Also yeah the scales could perhaps be slightly damaged or scattered on his body to sell the idea that he has been in numerous conflicts with Longclaws and maybe could tie into the dark wizard/warlock imagery Sounds good to me! Just get those changes in and it’ll look better.
>yeah as a massive Blaze fan it is quite a burden the creation of pothead, there is an undeniable correlation with her being shunted to irrelevance after seeming like the next major character since Shadow and the introduction of Silver, why being a Poison Ivy enjoyed is also difficult lmao.
The problem goes a lot deeper than just silver. Blaze has the makings of being a character to head their own long running thing. Thing is though, she shares the franchise with Sonic, who gets priority no matter what. Sad how Mario treats it’s friends better with their own sub franchise spin offs than sonic ever will
>>2051 yeah I may like Sonic as a character but there is a serious supporting character utilization problem in the franchise for a while gamewise, also yeah they could benefit from spin-off's like how there is DKC, Luigi's mansion or Wario Land for Mario franchise. Doing something like that for the extended cast of Sonic does sound like a fun thing to trial run at the very least
>>2052 I think the problem isn't really in the characters, but rather in the devs. Nintendo has developers who can make games around Luigi and even fucking Toad that are good and successful. But do you think that Sega could do the same to Blaze or Knuckles or Tails? They currently even struggle with Sonic's gameplay while Nintendo basically never had to worry about Mario's.
>>2054 true suppose that is the biggest issue is Sonic Team really needs a big reshuffling and some new talented blood since the old guard isn't exactly to the level of Nintendo's old guard
>>2055 >the old guard isn't exactly to the level of Nintendo's old guard Sega’s been haemorrhaging talent to Nintendo for almost 20 years now. If you look at the credits of Unleashed and Mario Odyssey you’ll see where Mario’s new rolling physics came from
>>2057 ohhh, so they just drive off the talented people, amkes sense as heard the writer for SA2 or Black Knight have wanted to come back to work on Sonic stuff but just haven't been able to due to sega not letting them come back for a job
>>2026 It's surprisingly good, especially considering I only spent around a minute on it >>2032 Kinda reminds me of that 06 fancomic that had Jimbotnik help the Duke of Soleanna with the Solaris project >>2038 >that panel There it is! >>2045 >>2047 Nooo, you two stop bulling Shitver at once! >>2046 I like the spooky shamanistic vibe he has >>2058 Yeah, it's a combination of Sega's execs being out of touch fossils and not hiring people like Maekawa to produce quality content, their employees being overworked and underappreciated, and Nintendo treating their workers better
>>1866 Sonic Desolation 3-28 https://sonicdesolation.tumblr.com Egg streak, speeds by! Eggman Robotnik! Too fast for the naked eye! Eggman Robotnik! Eggman! He can really move! Eggman! He's got an attitude! Eggman! He's the fastest thing alive! He's the fastest thing alive!
>>2049 >I'm not actually a blaze fag but the effect he has on her just makes me mad. A character should not be forever chained to a mediocre one like that I feel the same way about Tangle. She's an okay character, not great, but she didn't deserve to get saddled with Whimper the Wolf.
>>2062 thanks, I saw the one concept with Rava with the staff and also remembering all the dark entities like Dark Gaia, The End and the underworld in Black Knight so figured would tie Rava into that stuff as a dark conjurer to sorta contrast Longclaw being a badass normal with no mystical skills beyond being a bird mum with a lot of experience and knoweldge. Also yeah I always bully shitver when get chance, was how I even engaged in threads in the first place
I was thinking about it and I'll do it! Starting on Fridays at 7pm EST (the usual time during the Rides), I will be storytiming Sonic comics in the storytime thread. I don't know what it'll be or how much. Maybe 30-50 pages.
>>2072 I may ship Rough and Tumble, but Tangle and Rough would make such a cute couple. I really wanted to see Rough and Tumble be Tangle's main villains, but with the twist that Tangle (partially) redeems them from a life of villainy and they (partially) corrupt her to look the other way when no one's hurt. Sonic and Eggman can never change, despite the comic harping on about redeeming Eggman, but they could've actually done something here to show how not every conflict is an unending battle between good and evil >>2078 I still can't believe we're at issue 6 already! >>2079 But of course! I've been telling everyone that SonKnux is cute and canon for years! >>2081 >sonknux is best gay ship for sonic because they’re fun That's what I love about it, there's none of the drama of Sonadow, just two guys that go from getting on each others' nerves to getting into each others' pants >>2082 >spoiler While I don't personally ship it, the art's always 10/10 for that ship >>2086 >Infinite, but in a skintight bodysuit yes_hahaha_yes.png >>2089 It's surprising we get all these dark entities in Sonic but no mystical characters to conjure/work with them. It's always Eggman, a mad scientist unleashing (hew hew) them >Also yeah I always bully shitver when get chance, was how I even engaged in threads in the first place Sega will eventually make Silver cool. You'll see, you'll all see! >>2092 Nice! >>2101 >He could always grow an actual arm back with that magic It'd be cool if he did it like EVA01 did in the rebuild film. The rebuilds were shit, but some of the fighting scenes were cool
>>2102 Mobian men don't wear pants, Thirstposter. You fail at Sonic lore and I'm sending you to the Sonamy mines and taking your Sonknux collection until you learn your lesson.
I've been thinking about Knuckles and his super strength in my continuity. In Archie, it was because Locke microwaved Knuckles as an egg. And when he lost his connection to the chaos force, he wasn't super strong or able to glide. But if I get rid of the microwaving then that means he'll need to have gotten his strength from somewhere... or someone. Am I really going to give a super power to another person that didn't have any powers before?
In unrelated news, did you know that Glitcher was commissioned to do a 6 page comic where Knuckles is shrunk and almost stepped on by his mother who is wearing open toe sandals? Might as well save it for later.
>>2122 >But if I get rid of the microwaving then that means he'll need to have gotten his strength from somewhere... or someone. You can just say that there's some echidna ritual where the Guardian gets super-strength from the Master Emerald.
>>2122 Could always say it’s a bit of natural strength with training along with staying close to the master emerald all day powering him up slightly But that’s just me
> did you know that Glitcher was commissioned to do a 6 page comic where Knuckles is shrunk and almost stepped on by his mother who is wearing open toe sandals? ...why are people like this
>>2125 In that case, the Guardian bloodline has super-strength from the Master Emerald. If you haven't introduced any Guardians without super-strength, it should work.
>>1837 TEAM DARK: SUPERNOVA ODYSSEY 3-10 https://teamdarksupernovaodyssey.tumblr.com ENTER ECLIPSE THE DARKLING! I certainly would! >>1838 >This is so gonna lead up to him appearing. At least I hope it does. Have I got good news for you!
>>2117 B-but they're so cute! It's kinda hilarious they were fine with pants in Forces for the male Mobians >I'm sending you to the Sonamy mines and taking your Sonknux collection until you learn your lesson. Nooooo! >>2119 Controversial opinion, but I actually like Sonic with longer hair. Ron Lim's design is kino and I'm tired of pretending it's not! >>2121 If only! >>2122 >spoiler Oh boy! >>2124 >...why are people like this The more niche your fetish, the more money you have to spend on art commissions. There's a reason I was able to storytime $50k in body swap/embarrassing outfits comics. Personally, the main reason I read these threads is to gain new fetishes so I can be promoted! >>2125 Knowing smile! >>2129 I got my days wrong and missed it ;_;
>>2178 I think I'll start doing a weekly ~after dark~ too. Might make it Slutposting Saturday >>2180 And so another franchise is absorbed into the Adok omnicanon >>2181 I've never played it, but then most of ones we had were racing or fighting games like Sega Rally and Street Fighter II. My favorites were the rail shooters like Virtua Cop and The House of the Dead, they were so advanced compared to home consoles and PCs it was like playing games from the future
>>2184 It's actually a fun Beat Em up. Player 1 is Frank & Player 2 is Nick Fury. Nice selection of weapons and you get moments where you gun down mooks. The 90s Capcom brawlers from Final Fight to Battle Circuit all deserve a play at least once. Fun Fact, the Japanese version will have Fury & Punisher's, of all fucking people, special kick moves get the ability to set their foes aflame like it's Street Fighter.
>>2129 >>2178 Saying it again but thanks conductor... except for that cursed knuckles one... but I like you doing it for weekly now, easier to keep track of at least for me. and if you want more people though, some occasional advertising on other places wouldn't hurt >>2174 nice to see shadow in the future. Although i'd like to see what he would be up to in a good future. >>2175 I FUCKING CALLED IT! /ourboy/ has arrived! >>2176 adorable > There's a reason I was able to storytime $50k in body swap/embarrassing outfits comics Where do these weirdos get this much money?
>>2194 >Saying it again but thanks conductor... except for that cursed knuckles one... but I like you doing it for weekly now, easier to keep track of at least for me. and if you want more people though, some occasional advertising on other places wouldn't hurt I'm not sure what I'll do but maybe I'll try something. >>2195 >A lot of beautiful art even if silver is the star of it. I'd love a story time of this for sure Easily the best looking fanzine I've seen.
>>2185 Don't forget that it also predated this quote from Punisher Max. The comic has Nick Fury taking his belt off and whipping a pentagon general with it, and when they wanted to call the military police, he threatened the pissant that he'll be next. Meanwhile, the game has Nick Fury whipping his belt like a helicopter as a special attack and the first stage, second area, has a telephone booth (which can be attacked and destroyed).
>>2184 I've seen Model 2 games (Virtua Cop, House of the Dead, that one tank game) in arcades as far as the late 00s.
And here's the full page. The context is that a couple of pentagon generals wanted to make sure that Nick & Franks assault on a siberian nuclear missile silo was definitely not done by Americans, but instead by arab terrorists. So they had a covert agent recruit genuine arab suicide bombers, which they then pointed at Moscow on a commercial airline, that they took over and tried flying it into... I don't know, into the Kremlin or something. This was just a few years after 9/11, mind you. Moscow air defenses shot down the plane with all the passengers on it.
pic related is Nick Fury after finding out whose idea was said plan.
