Sonic Blast and Sonic #44-45 We have another special and this time it’s an adaptation of the bizarre and underrated Sonic 3D Blast! Robotnik is on the hunt for a chaos emerald and he’s terrorizing Flicky Island in order to find it! And then, it’s the return of Anti-Sonic and he has a new Anti-Friend tagging along! And after that, the return of Mobie!
Question: Have you played Sonic 3D Blast? If so, what did you think of it?
>>140233473 >Question: Have you played Sonic 3D Blast? If so, what did you think of it? Nope. I THINK I might have briefly played SRB/SRB2 at one point though.
>>140233513 Shalalalala don't be shy, you've got to... kiss the girl! >>140233489 WOE BE UPON YE >>140233514 I found some things about it annoying but also addicting.
>>140233473 >Have you played Sonic 3D Blast? If so, what did you think of it? It's alright. Has good music. It's hilarious how easy and quick it is to get all the Chaos Emeralds. Never played the Saturn version or the Director's Cut, but I did play both Genesis and PC (can't remember if I ever finished the former; Probably did).
>>140233473 Huh. I just realized there are quite a lot of one shot specials in the Archie canon.
>Question: Have you played Sonic 3D Blast? If so, what did you think of it? It was one of the very first Sonic games I ever played, and I have a fair amount of nostalgia for it. It's a decent game, if a bit jank in places. Damn good soundtrack too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NkZ-QQRJoE
>>140233589 >roboticized flicky Still kind of cute. >>140233551 I remember hating the later special stages to get them. >>140233555 >It really sucks Aww!
>>140233523 I played it on that Sonic PS2 Collection. It was one of the games I actually finished ToT That final boss theme is so beautiful and is a great sendoff for the Genesis generation.
>>140233634 >tails once again bringing up his mini Sigh. >>140233574 I would've loved for a sequel. >>140233591 Those bastards! >>140233600 It's almost like Penders is the only one pushing that ship and everyone else ignores it.
>>140233573 Notice how, unlike all the other letters, the "i"s in "Flickie" are lower case. I can't remember where I heard it, but apparently they had to change it because the upper case letters made it look rather fuckie.
>>140233659 >water cures roboticization for only flickies If only it was that easy for everyone. >>140233612 There's no way he can do worse than that to Robotnik!
>>140233659 >It's almost like Penders is the only one pushing that ship and everyone else ignores it. I bet all the writers groaned everytime penders brought it up int he writing room
>>140233711 >Alright everyone, for the next storyline- >GEOFFREY FUCKS SALLY! >No, shut up. The next issue should deal with- >SKUNK-CHIPMUNK BABIES! >Penders I swear to god
>>140233760 And just when Robotnik found something large enough for him to fit through. >>140233742 And then they got replaced and the cycle continues.
>>140233742 Well the Flickies came from an arcade game that predates Sonic. Which makes me wonder how the idea to basically combine the two into 3D Blast came about.
>>140233789 When I was a kid, I thought this was some kind of foam laser. >>140233743 Fleetway also did that. Led to some weird places separate from Mobius for both.
>>140233892 I feel like Robotnik could roll up into Knothole by himself and take everyone done with this shit. >>140233804 It's super speed, I ain't gotta explain shit. >>140233824 WATER DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY
Wait, you can just run away from the giant statue monster? Huh. Generally people just stand around screaming so it can lumber up to them and crush them.
>>140234039 Aw, the Flicky followed him here. Will she be a cute partner that Robotnik just can't bring himself tohahahAHAHAHA no he made it into a robot and sent it off to die against Sonic's spines.
Reminder that Knothole being burned down to the ground by a roboticized Sonic was literally Antoine's fault for not doing his job guarding Nack in the first place.
>>140233680 >flickies being weird magical birds can just be cured of roboticization by splashing water on them, unlike literally every other mobian Cheaters!
>>140233699 Archie Sonic being bullshit yet again!
>>140234039 >won't kill him, but he will leave him stranded on a remote island with no supplies Brutal.
>Would be pretty funny if he was stranded and wouldn't show up for several issues but sadly that is not the case. That would rule, but the comic hasn't introduced that many other recurring villains yet. I mean, I guess it could be like three issues of Snively being in charge, but that dude is a fucking psycho, and last time he nearly destroyed the world.
>>140234086 Wait, only Bunnie's left arm is cybernetic and the maximum amount of strength she can apply to the jar has to come from both arms. Sure, she can grab things with super strength with her left, but that's not applicable here.
It took me way too long to figure out that 3D Blast was pretty much an isometric Flicky (The arcade game). Would occasionally play both back to back on Mega Collection as a kid, just somehow never made the connection
>>140234166 Bunnie having super strength in her roboticized arm blatantly never made sense, it was just something the cartoon and comic always ran with.
>>140234166 Since she only has half her body left, her body can hyper-focus its strengths on the few bits that remain. Remember that limbless guy who threw out the first pitch and nailed it?
>>140234149 >>140234165 Sigh. This is just making me salty that we'll never get a playable Bunnie in the games. She'd be so much fun to play as. Like a fusion between Sonic and Mega Man.
Does it realy make sense that Robotnik was never able to find Knothole? The man converted an entire kingdom into an automated Metropolis and yet he couldn't locate a single village inside a single forest? No drones or deductive reasoning or anything?
It made sense when they pulled that "Knothole exists three hours into the future" thing after issue 50, as contrived as that was, but Robotnik was dead by then so why even bother with it?
>>140234197 Never heard of Pyuo Pyuo back then, pretty sure I found out about it after seeing gameplay of Kirby's Avalanche, going "wait a minute...", and looking up info on it. The connection's a lot more clear there since they're reskins
>And to think they were much friendlier to each other. The real break in their relationship happened when Robotnik revealed he has a Deadman switch set to have all of his badniks kill everything on the planet if he ever actually dies, including Snively himself.
>>140234421 >sonic & knuckles meet >they don't start fighting for no reason Whaaaaaat?! >>140234397 >The real break in their relationship happened when Robotnik revealed he has a Deadman switch set to have all of his badniks kill everything on the planet if he ever actually dies, including Snively himself. That and Snively getting more selfish and delusional about being better than Robotnik.
>>140233826 I like how Robotnik sounds almost horrified that he could have potentially vaporized Sonic, despite all of his previous plots being implicit murder attempts. It sorta reinforces that Robotnik would prefer NOT to kill him outright if at all possible.
>>140234482 So they were literally just childhood friends. Not much of a secret, honestly. Gotta say though, I much prefer this to that forced love triangle with the skunk. ... Hold on, given Penders' obsession with Knuckles, why does Geoffrey even exist? Just use Knuckles for all that stuff.
>>140234537 >second panel No? That's not ironic at all, Sonic. Plus, you're the only one here with inexplicable superpowers, so get off your high horse.
>>140234663 I can't take this seriously. How can the Freedom Fighters as well as Anti-Sonic and Anti-Knuckles captured by a handful of swatbots? Robotnik's laser is busy.
>>140234663 Oh yeah, just scan this huge island in a parallel universe and instantly find the right way to go. Nicole, pls. I love how she manages to be stupidly powerful even as a PDA. Literal plot device.
>>140234708 This pic just reminded me, why in the fuck are they trying to make amy having a bird friend her entire thing too when that was just adventure
>>140234814 PREVIOUSLY ON SONIC THE HEDGEHOG... >>140234791 >>140234795 The chaos emerald sent it back to Robotnik, destroyed his laser, and sent him away. The cannon had chaos emerald pieces the Anti-Knuckles can use.
>>140234890 >rare berries >causes sleepiness You sure it's "rare" and not a similar word? >>140234848 Show some respect! Mobie fought and help defeat Mammoth Mogul during the prehistoric era.
>>140234876 It's really weird how Snively is often portrayed as perfectly competent and intelligent, while still being a pathetic little bitch. He really IS just Starscream.
can we all just appreciate the freedom fighters, espically bunnie and rotor are WAY more active in this comic than in satam? cuz I absoultely love that and I like satam
>>140234451 It would be nice if Bunnie's limbs turned golden for her super form. I think it would make more sense too as she depends on those for most of her moves.
Once again, Ill say that angelo is super underrated as archie sonic writer and writes some nice stories and does the characters well. Easily in the top for me sad this is his last story.
>>140235194 Pretty sure the context was that Scourge was brutalizing him as part of his planet-wide renovation of Moebius. Given how it's implied he already abused his own Anti-FF (i.e. Patch mentioning that his eyepatch only used to be fake), Anti-Knux's odds are not good.
>>140235163 He never got around to it, his preliminary idea was that O'Nux would find a loophole to his pacifism by placing Demon Island under surveillance and hiring the Orderix to do the fighting for him. He'd be a controversial figure, with nobody particularly happy with his leadership. He said so in one of his podcasts, though the names were made already canon in the Encyclopedia.
>>140235202 Sorry bruv we need the 74th tech demo for this new physics enginge custom built for another 3D Sonic that will have tons of stages and characters aaaaaaand it's dead.
>>140235259 >Good echidna, have you seen the thread of destiny? Just a hair, a fleeting thing, yet I clung to it, steeped as I was in the stench of blood and beasts. >I never wanted to know, what it really was. Really, I didn't.
>>140235276 And that's it! We won't be concluding Knuckles' Quest because tomorrow we're doing the first three issues of the Knuckles ongoing (which wasn't planned on being longer than three issues). Get ready for the Dark Legion at 7pm EST!
>>140235306 >Show up >Brainwash Knuckles >Refuse to Elaborate >Die (?) Also, it's weird to remember that Knuckles was enslaved by these guys for a couple days. Like, canonically. Also also what is it with black cats who A. Are mages and B. refuse to wear pants and shoes?
>>140235306 >Get ready for the Dark Legion at 7pm EST! At last. Oh, I can't wait, cause I have opinions about the Dark Legion. Quite possibly one of the worst examples of 'good idea, bad execution'.
>>140233749 >penders never got to tell that story because everyone told him to shut the fuck up and eventually drop the love triangle bullshit >but not before penders tries to kill off sally
Oh here's my design for Longclaw had done by Sonicguru, she's a bit younger here since this is the start of her wise mentor/Single mother life going onwards
>knuckles will never have meaningful lore about his people ever again because of penders They were actually gonna integrate chronicles stuff too. It's over Knucklesbros...
>>140235723 >Could've had Shade as a recurring character >The whole issue with Knuckles having to guard the Master Emerald could've been mitigated at least somewhat (depending on if they integrate just Shade or the rest of the clan).
>>140235723 I don't know why they wouldn't. Penders lost those lawsuits against Bioware. Sega can use Chronicles and not have to worry about him. In fact it's bad that they aren't using it because Penders gets pretend he has a claim on them.
>>140235770 boomers aren't going to care that 2 people are defending a game from 2008 even if it doesn't legally matter. laws don't matter to money, and shade doesn't print any
>>140235770 Penders never got to sue Bioware because by the time the Archie case wrapped up, it was too late. There's speculation that part of the reason Sega doesn't bring up Chronicles that much any more is because doing so would give Penders an opening (they probably just don't care, though).
And there was also a fan series with the chaotix and knuckles, which according to the poster, also uses the setting and characters froom Archie. >>133854113
>>140235796 adding onto this it was also during the peak of the 'sonic shouldn't have serious stories movement' and chronicles was right in the thick of that that caused sonic team to shift because the west were upset that sonic wasn't irony poisoned yet. they've shifted too much to revert
>>140235768 A back up guardian would make his long trips away make him look less retarded >>140235770 >I don't know why they wouldn't. The stigman alone makes sure they wont do anything. Not with reusing chronicles stuff or even making more echidna lore, they just wont now
>>140235825 No Penders sued Bioware and the case was thrown out every time. He exhausted his legal options and couldn't go after them anymore. The possible reason Sega doesn't use anything from Chronicles is because it was a critical and commercial failure.
>>140235787 Her face looks weirdly bland without the cheek fuzz. Same with Bunnie. Strange because they had no problem keeping Nicole's face largely unchanged.
>>140233473 >Question It's okay, but probably the least Sonic-like game out of the classic titles >>140233513 Love seeing Snively being a shit >>140233542 I can't believe Sally ships Sonally! >>140233573 [REDACTED] doing his part to ensure Sonic doesn't lapse into heterosexuality >>140233659 >tails once again bringing up his mini He's like that one guy who went backpacking across Europe for a month and made it his entire personality >>140233694 I can't believe they renamed it to Clucky >>140233749 >Everyone tries to quietly leave while he's drawing the Echidna family tree on the whiteboard >>140233760 >I'm curious how checkered ground works. It's not entirely impossible https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tessellated_pavement >>140234115 Horrifying
>>140235978 >Penders presses an intern's face against the whiteboard >WHO IS THIS?! >*sob* I-I don't- >WHO IS THIS ECHIDNA?! >L-Locke...? >AND WHO INVENTED THIS CHARACTER AND ALL OF THE ECHIDNAS?! >*sobbing* Y-You did Mr. Penders oh god please don't kill me >THAT'S RIGHT AND DON'T YOU FORGET IT!
>>140234248 Another cover absolutely nailed by Spaz >>140234275 lmao >>140234299 Penders just can't keep away from his Star Wars references >>140234329 Wow, they really fucked up [REDACTED]'s tusks in the second panel >>140234353 You know Manny Galan's on art duty whenever Knuckles starts having knees >>140234401 Oh my, I'm seeing double! Four Knuckles! >>140234446 >Whaaaaaat?! Boo! >>140234558 Double Sonknux! >>140234685 That's just how some of the raw files were. I'm guessing Archie did a shit job scanning these pages >>140234942 Deepest lore! >>140234973 Hawt! >>140235174 >tfw Knuckles will never feed you his grapes It's not fair! >>140235259 There he is! >>140235306 Thanks Konductor!
>>140235309 I guess fun level design's way harder than it looks >>140235382 Check out the Sonic X-treme promo art for the Sonic Checklist page >>140235484 Awww, he's so cute and tiny! >>140235549 Certainly better dressed! >>140235716 Cute! >>140235743 Exactly! >>140235875 It's a lot of fun seeing all the characters interact. It's a pretty short game so I recommend giving it a shot >>140235975 So handsome! >>140236021 lmao, you just know he shouts out "ECHIDNA BLOOD-LINE" like Crocker in Fairly Odd Parents >>140236066 Same >>140236072 He easily won best Substitute FF, and cutest lynx >>140236171 I'm surprised Glitcher hasn't graced us with any lewds yet
>>140236951 >I guess fun level design's way harder than it looks I remember using the debug cheat and trying to create my own levels in the early Sonic games.
>>140237487 Robotnik can do that too. He's trashed swatbots and turned one into a small cube. I'd even say Robotnik would beat Eggman in one on one fight. No items. Final Destination.
>>140237400 Yeah, from what I understand the collected volumes make them a lot of money since they only have to pay for a cover artist. I'd be pushing those out as fast as possible if I were them >>140237431 Ha, I used to make my own levels too! They weren't very good, but they were fun to make >>140237435 It's really nice to see Sonic and Longclaw sharing some tender moments, especially since we don't get to see much of her in the actual movies
>>140237634 Pretty sure Flynn mentioned she was all natural where it mattered, hence her being able to have kids in MXYL >>140237732 Just wait until we get to Chris Allan, or Many Hands
>>140236826 It became one of his catchphrases in SatAM. Archie just didn't get much mileage out if it. Well, at least from Sonic himself. The comic gains the tagline "the world's most way past cool comic!" from post-Endgame to the end of pre-reboot.
>>140234561 Geoffrey is a method for him to self-insert. And I really, really wouldn't want him to project onto Knuckles instead, even if it got rid of the skunk.
>>140240043 He probably wasn't allowed to with Knuckles so he invented Geoffrey instead which he could do whatever he wanted with. But then he just created so much fucking weird lore for echidnas themselves down the lie it really didn't matter. At least Geoffrey got what was coming to him.
>>140234665 >Anti-Locke A good father who actually cared for his son and wasn't a cryptic asshole.
>Anti-Echidnas Ancient benevolent precursor civilization who sought to defend Moebius but were wiped out by cosmic horrors/filthy dingoes/whatever their manifestation of Enerjak was.
>>140239600 >When I was here, I wanted to be there; when I was there, all I could think of was getting back into the jungle. I'm here a week now... waiting for a mission... getting softer. Every minute I stay in this room, I get weaker, and every minute Cuckoo squats in the bush, he gets stronger. Each time I looked around the walls moved in a little tighter.
>>140234941 He even gets attempts at redemption that never last. Though, unlike Armada Starscream who at least tried to remain a hero or mostly good, Snively is far too much of a narcissistic egomaniac to actually change for the better.
I'll also say that Starscream is rarely genuinely effective when he takes command. He wouldn't go full "BLOW UP THE PLANET" like Snively would under most circumstances, at the very least.
>>140235433 Most Mobians actively loathe modern tech. The only ones who really tinker with it are Rotor, Chuck, and eventually Tails. But some like Mina and her band and a few others will gleefully use the few pieces that don't gross them out.
>>140235770 Sega quite literally doesn't care. Penders never won ahit with that court case and can claim nothing from Chrojicles either. They just despise the blackmark the entire incident put on their pride and so they'll ignore anything that relates to it.
>>140240266 Armada Starscream only wanted Megatron to treat him with respect, he had no thought or intents on becoming leader. He's pretty much the antithesis of Starscream in the franchise aside from Shattered Glass Starscream. Every other version of him is a narcissistic egomaniac of varying levels and always sucks at being a leader when he manages to get into the position.
>>140240240 >Is this the start of Sonic shoving random shit in his mouth without thinking? He just can't help himself! >Claiming all of these gorillas. Sold! Pretty sure they'd end up claiming you though >>140240319 I did a quick OCR search for "bro" and it looks like this is the first. He does say it in SatAM and AOSTH as well >>140240440 Yeah, makes him much more well rounded
>>140240289 Wait until we get to the rabid anti-gun agenda that makes the cause of the great war being gun misuse and Rotor becoming a moron because he made a gun.
>>140240643 Yeah, this. Both Armada and Shattered Glass Starscream are the only ones who hold genuine loyalty and admiration for Megatron - its just that Armada felt constant doubt in himself since nothing he ever did was impressive enough for his Megatron and that left him disillusioned with the Decepticon cause.
They'd both probably be disgusted at how literally every other version of themselves behaves.
>>140240706 Yeah, in Sonic Super Special 10 and in the Sonic Encyclopedia. Ian actually wrote a script (or at least the outline of one) for issue 50 of Sonic Universe that was going to give closure to the series. We did get the pencils of a cover for it at least https://lostmediawiki.com/Archie_Comics%27_%22Sonic_Underground%22_epilogue_(partially_lost_production_material_from_cancelled_comic_based_on_animated_TV_show;_2012-2013)
>>140240794 Yeah, at some point between the announcement and issue 50 of Universe Sega decided no more references to past continuities. Interestingly, the OVA's always been off limits, and they got in trouble for mentioning it in one of the specials. It's probably in licensing hell considering the company that animated it no longer even has the originals (I think their studio burned down)
>>140240764 Honestly, knowing it was written by Ian Flynn instead of someone who actually worked on the show, it was for the best.
>>140240794 >>140240846 It was during the time Archie and Penders was going through that legal case and Sega completely cracked down on other media for awhile after that -- and it was also during the Colors era where Sega wanted to completely sterilize the franchise.
>It's probably in licensing hell considering the company that animated it no longer even has the originals (I think their studio burned down) You're thinking of a different studio.
>>140241099 >Honestly, knowing it was written by Ian Flynn instead of someone who actually worked on the show, it was for the best. While not a fan, he had taken lots of notes while watching the show so I think he'd have done a decent job. Of course, we have Tamers to properly continue SU
>It was during the time Archie and Penders was going through that legal case and Sega completely cracked down on other media for awhile after that -- and it was also during the Colors era where Sega wanted to completely sterilize the franchise. Yeah, I can see why they would, but it's typical Sega overcorrection
>You're thinking of a different studio. Quite a few studios had lost their films to fires since the film reels are mega-flammable. Not certain this one burned down, but the originals are lost
>>140241647 Yeah, I wish they just released high quality scans instead of recoloring things. If the original scans didn't chop the edges off, I'd have probably cleaned them up instead
>>140242467 Yeah, I'm glad it's not just me seeing it >>140242697 >tfw the evil Remington's a fake cop that "arrests" people for nefarious purposes >tfw you've been your husbando's evil double the whole time >tfw that only makes it hotter
I got gifted this tubular pic off some surprise anonymous drawing artist from a husbando thread on /v/! Hadn't sadly the chance to leave my gratefulness for him before it archived, alas, but hopefully he might be here, so I could do that, plus offer myself a follow for his art gallery, which's the minimum I can to repay the favor.
>>140243755 Doohoohoo, you couldn't keep my away! That's some really nice art you scored. Hope you've been keeping well. I've been tracking down archives of the original /co/ and /v/ Ride threads from way back in 2013 & 14