Sonic #239-241 Even though we just did a Sonic Universe arc with the Secret Freedom Fighters, we’re doing a couple issues that take place before that and an issue after that. Eggman’s attacking everyone, Naugus’ condition worsens, and the people of Mobotropolis need saving! Will the tides finally turn in the heroes’ favor or will it lead to more suffering?
Question: Since we’re seeing the first full formation of the Secret Freedom Fighters, what do you think of the team?
>>141986019 >Question: Since we’re seeing the first full formation of the Secret Freedom Fighters, what do you think of the team? The team is so good that they have an entire sub-fandom dedicated to them. The B-team with Shard, Silver and Larry especially have a great dynamic.
>>141986048 Technically, what they are committing is High trahison and Chuck is outright going against the Council's provision to no longer engage in combat and acting behind their back.
>>141986120 *yawn* Wake me up when they start kidnapping Mobitropolis citizens in order to test mind altering substances to unlock psychic potential or some such nonsense
>>141986073 So.... Sonic, never come to your mind to make a third team? -One to stay home to defend New Mobotropolis (good thing to do) -One to deal with whatever mess Eggman leave behind (also a good thing to do) -AND ONE TO GO AFTER THE DEATH EGG NO MATTER WHAT?
>>141986109 Not to endorse emotional apathy, but it honestly seems kinda pointless to be shocked at how much of a bastard Eggman is. Yeah Tails, that is sick. And? Let me know when he starts raping babies. That would actually be shocking, since I'm almost damn sure he's a eunuch.
>Since we’re seeing the first full formation of the Secret Freedom Fighters, what do you think of the team? >Who Cool call back to the gag era. >Silver Cool but has been nerfed to tell a team story. >Elias The best the character has ever been written. He is no longer a pathetic Daddy’s boy cuck and is finally acting like a true king. >Shard Pretty overrated. Don’t like how he turned the real Metal Sonic into a jobber to make him look cooler. His “romance” with Nicole is nothing and completely overblown by fans. Nicole had more chemistry and screentime with Espio. >Larry Fun callback, has unique powers. >Twins Pointless. Are hastily written replacements for Hershey. Neither of them get much characterization.
>>141986019 >Question: Since we’re seeing the first full formation of the Secret Freedom Fighters, what do you think of the team? Best team. Mostly because of Shard.
>>141986047 Fun fact: In Frontiers, Amy gets a seat behind Tails and Knuckles stands on the right wing which proves Sonic and Knuckles are married >>141986063 Nice! >>141986075 We've also got a dedicated anon writing up a proper reading order >>141986109 Sonic's having another himbo moment
>>141986137 The fact Mecha Sally is still a sassy bitch makes me think the bad future involves her taking over the Empire. An evil version of Sally would absolutely be a fucking master of The Game.
>>141986157 >last panel ZAMN. ... Okay Conductor, maybe you have a point about Meg being worried.
>>141986259 Mecha Sally be going right for the throat there, but also do like how this shows Amy is sensible about her Sonic crush as her worst characterisation makes it detrimental to her character
>>141986263 It's the most absurdly evil thing I can come up with that the piece of shit hasn't already done. If you have anything more extreme to suggest, feel free.
>>141986380 That’s honestly why 99% of the time not really much for Amy as a character, i can’t stand the one sided crush characters where it’s clear the other characetr doesn’t share the feeling or ignores it most of the time, it is not a substitute for actual chemistry
>>141986157 >those forearms wew! >>141986187 Yeah, he's even designed after Mecha Godzilla (you can even see the iconic missile fingers when he's in the tube in Eggman's base in SA1). I guess the comic had too many Mecha Sonic's already so they went with the unofficial name >>141986190 >Big buff older man, ready to fight! I can see why he has so many fans!
>>141986440 It's also pretty much why Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles being a team is much better than that team with amy replacing the red guy to me. They can be bros with their fun chemistry.
>>141986446 >Why is it that every town but Mobotropolis have citizens willing to fight and actually win? >effete urbanites unable and unwilling to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and fight for what is right unlike the masculine rurals Many such cases
>>141986446 >Why is it that every town but Mobotropolis have citizens willing to fight and actually win? GOOD QUESTION. Don't let Nicole find out about this. That's what will lead to the Ghosts of the Future timeline.
>>141986506 Well yeah they are good friends but honestly any romantic intention I don’t see myself, except in like Boom or X. Cause i just don’t care for the pairing as it’s not interesting or enjoyable to me personally though i don’t hate it to much, mostly apathetic to it
>>141986472 Getting more like Game Sonic where he can be an independent leader, but the downside to this is that it'll make Sally pointless, unless they'll both by leaders (if the comic lasted long without the reboot).
>>141986520 Espio was the first person to comfort Nicole after Mina’s concert. Ian even admits that he was setting them up to be a couple until Shardfags shipped him and Nicole together because they are both robotic.
>>141986522 I actually quite like the Chronicle designs for SwatBots except for the hands, honestly just slapping some Eggman colours and design details on those would make for some nice Egg Swat designs
>>141986580 >Well yeah they are good friends but honestly any romantic intention I don’t see myself Frontiers. And a ton of other random shit for the games/Classic Sonic that I could bring up.
>X X Sonic was a mess who never seemed to care whatsoever.
>>141986620 >>141986596 Sonic's always been a leader. He just prefers not doing it and acting on his own. But he has to in this situation and you can see him wanting to do it his way but realizing that it's not best.
>Why is it that every town but Mobotropolis have citizens willing to fight and actually win? Because Mobotropolis citizens were spoiled with Sonic and the FF there to fight for them, so they assumed they didn't have to do anything themselves. It's a sense of entitlement basically.
>>141986472 People tend to overlook that at this point, Eggman is basically on the run. and it make sense for Sonic to make a point to prevent Sally to make any irreversible harm to anyone. He know she would never forgive herself.
So I understand he prioritise damage control over taking back Sally if it means preventing people from being hurt. After all, Eggman has almost run out of resource, Sonic can afford to let him lose a little longer, right? RIGHT?
>>141986658 I don't even know what Eggman is doing at this point. It's just him trying to assert authority when he's repeatedly told he doesn't have the resources for it.
>>141986627 Frontiers i don’t really see from my playthrough honestly but again biased against it and just feel them getting together does not suit either character, It’s just not really a pairing with anything interesting beyond Amy getting her crush, which was often creepy at times, validated and that doesn’t interest me but if the games actually hooked them up then whatever, can’t sulk about it….though sega would never validate any ship definitely so pointless to think on
>>141986673 You know partciularly I never got the thing to why game sonic would have feelings towards amy. Amy to Sonic I can understand, just not Sonic to Amy really.
>>141986403 Barefoot too! Sold! >>141986440 Amy worded better in Boom where they turned her obsessiveness on decorating and toned down her Sonic obsession. I'm glad they're shifting closer to Boom for the main canon now >>141986446 >shredded shirt, and even more shredded dilf wew >Why is it that every town but Mobotropolis have citizens willing to fight and actually win? Nicole really should move here >>141986464 Swat Bots are more iconic, and I prefer the Unleashed designs for the Egg Pawns >>141986501 >I mean... Those pecs are giving me a nosebleed! >>141986513 lmao
>>141986619 >>141986646 The Chronicles Swatbats were definitely badass. I wish they were in more games. Sega technically can use those since they have nothing to do with the lawsuit, but Sega isn't interested in anything from SatAM.
>>141986722 Turns out that exiling Nicole has negative consequences for the city. >>141986680 Sonic's basically saying to himself "what would Sally do?"
>>141986735 Shame as with how Nostalgia focused they can be you’d think Sega would capitalise on that with maybe doing their own version of the satam stuff but maybe as an alternate game continuity like boom, but they seem mostly interested in keeping things simple as just have modern and classic
>>141986695 In Frontiers, Sonic has a bunch of voicelines expressing his interest in Amy, but they take a long time to trigger.
>>141986700 It's made clear that Game Sonic is crippingly shy and is a spaghetti-spiller when it comes to Amy. Dude can't even express it to her face, so he runs away then laments being dumb about it later like in Frontiers.
Incidentally, it's the perfect set-up to turn Amy into the lost lenore.
>>141986619 They were so cool! >>141986665 Sold! >Because Mobotropolis citizens were spoiled with Sonic and the FF there to fight for them, so they assumed they didn't have to do anything themselves. It's a sense of entitlement basically. They can't even repair their own houses and still sent Nicole away. They really are the worst >>141986670 Yeah, I like that they put more emphasis on that in the reboot >spoiler wew!
>>141986732 Yeah the Egg Fighters in Unleashed have very fun designs, honestly I just liked when games would have eggman throw out new but interesting mook designs, I didn’t mind them reusing at first in colours cause first time we saw Badniks with cool updated looks. Less so in Lost World where they looked really hideous and like bad toys
>>141986722 I have no idea how Eggman made Tails Doll or why it has the inexplicable ability to turn things into what looks like a melting pile of flesh, and I'm not sure I want to know.
>>141986785 It’s kind of strange that they still treat the walkers as gods. They died ages ago and were never useful even when they were alive. They got replaced by Tails’s uncle and Knuckles’s great grandpa or something which lowers their divinity even more. They’re just some magic dudes now.
>>141986933 >why it has the inexplicable ability to turn things into what looks like a melting pile of flesh It can disrupt the nanites. It's just breaking apart the machine.
>>141986688 >I don't even know what Eggman is doing at this point. Making A-Team references! >>141986744 All Sonic's are pretty smart (except for Prime obviously) >>141986785 I do like the turtleneck and rolled up sleeves >>141986828 Meet your new harem Elias! >>141986836 >In Frontiers, Sonic has a bunch of voicelines expressing his interest in Amy, but they take a long time to trigger. Too bad he shows more chemistry with Knuckles in the main cutscenes! >>141986849 >Butler draws women well but he also draws a good Elias. He really does!
>>141986932 >Rotor: Nagus, If you don't want to be a meat shield, don't say anything! >Nagus: W-whst-- >Rotor: THANKS FOR VOLUNTEERING!! >Nagus gets gunned down by the Egg-Swat
>>141986904 I love the lobster guys design, honestly shame there’s only a few crustaceans and arthropod characters, if they had more I hope they would make the look more like the animal and less homogenised
>>141986904 Y'know... the three evil spirits have a point. You gotta conserve your mana, dude.
>>141986932 >The three of us combined to make you? Shameful. Nagus sucks so much that even the guys who fused to make him hate him. That's Naraku levels of being an unlikable cunt. When your own guts hate your guts, quit. You have fucking failed at life.
>>141987000 Heavy and Bomb aren't even characters, I found out. Everything about them to their names are from the US manual. They're actually just random sets of robots that get picked up that hinders the team (That's why you can see multiple versions of them in the selection) in the japanese version.
>>141986888 Who's pretty old so young to him could be under 40. Personally I see Larry as in his early 20s >>141986893 It's the brows! >>141986904 I love how the voices in his head bully him >>141986910 The Lost World designs were so bland and uninspired, and Forces had absolutely terrible Badnik and Egg Pawn designs. I just want them to be cool again!
>>141987137 oh no eggbros another humiliating loss and reminder that we're low on resources i haven't heard that before oh man this never happened befooooore...
>>141987002 >Too bad he shows more chemistry with Knuckles in the main cutscenes! He can fuck both, Thirstposter. I'm certain polygamy is a thing on Mobius.
>>141987049 I wish Lien-da took over for Snively as Eggman’s number two guy. Cubot’s gimmick of speaking in dumb accents is the most juvenile shit ever.
>>141987164 And this leads into the SFF arc. >>141987160 >games That's why. He's a game character and therefore sacred. And Sega agrees despite their handling of him.
>>141986928 He really is the best! >>141986947 You pretty much had to stand around for several minutes for them to trigger, although I think they fixed that in an update >>141986986 That paint job is really stylish! >>141987028 All three wizards are pretty cool. It's a shame we didn't get to see them split up >>141987081 So handsome! So buff! >>141987114 They're a fun take on reformed Badniks
>>141987248 >all these Freedom Fighters Ya love to see it. I always loved the multiple FF teams, makes the world feel more rich, and it's just nice to see someone besides the main character fighting the good fight.
>>141987276 Why is Eggman not stopping and sending his full force on Sonic's team? Just throwdown right here and now. He had enough force in that mustache to take down Station Square. Well, it's probably too late now.
>>141987308 Honestly that woulda been a fun arc is Naugus gets killed off for good but now they have to deal with the wizards he was made up off and they’re either properly teaming up, divided to focus on their own goals or just adjusting to how much everything has changed since they fused
>>141987322 >Why is Eggman not stopping and sending his full force on Sonic's team? >muh Chaos is the Constant Eggy knows he'd get a plot armor mandated beatdown if he stopped running
It's funny how Archie just went ahead and made their own Metal Tails and Metal Amy because they figured Sega would never bother (thought Archie Metal Amy is still uniquely Modern Amy)
>>141987153 You have to use codes, but playing as Heavy and Bomb together is pretty fun. It's almost like a different game >>141987123 lmao >>141987174 More like mandatory! >>141987182 I'm glad they dropped the accent thing
>>141987377 Isabella Mongoose. She was cute and supportive as a robian and she's hot and based as a mobian. >>141987321 The reboot takes that and takes it to the next level. Great worldbuilding for that.
>>141987322 Eggman is well aware that if he stops at any point to actually face his pursuers, he's done. Sally at minimum will get reclaimed, and his entire Death Egg destroyed at worst.
>>141987378 Well it wasn’t a comparison but yeah Mecha Sonic is pretty fucking top tier, there is some alternate universe where he is the one who got used more and Metal got popular through internet animation
>>141987436 >Nagus is losing his powers and his mind. >everyone stops being retarded Wow, it’s almost like those two are connected and he was corrupting Mobotropolis! Nah, everyone was just being mean to Nicole for absolutely no reason!
>>141987341 That's exactly what I was hoping they'd do, especially since they hate each other but would probably be forced to work together to survive >>141987343 >Also, super cool Tails once again in a Butler drawn comic. Butler, for all his focus on sexy ladies, really gets Tails' characterization >>141987377 I still think the bat one's a hunk >>141987378 He has a cool design too, and it's a shame we never get to see him again >>141987514 Technically we covered his fan redraw of #113
>>141987546 Man, the wizards just bullying Naugus as much as possible is the best, also fun to see the villains be so desperate as it gives them a sense of vulnerability after being so successful
>>141987545 Once again, he was only enhancing their preexisting feelings. They already felt that way. Nagus's powers being weakened means jack shit. Why are you so desperate to be an apologist for these assholes?
241 is the last time Sonic's parents here appear. jesus christ. Man... I liked them, espically jules. Sonic having nice parents among the shitty ones who treated their kids bad was neat
>>141987516 Denied! >>141987545 That's how I like to think of it >>141987546 I still love that mailbox >>141987574 They work so well together! >>141987599 They love him more than the lobster/bat/rhino wizard that can't stop drooling!
>>141987567 It’s explicitly told that he’s amplifying up the citizens emotions. Nicolefags just don’t want to hear it because they have a white knight fetish and wish to defend their m’lady.
>>141987574 >Naugus tried to use King Max to genocide Mobian Yeah, maybe it would have been interesting to bring that up WHEN HE TRIED TO CONVINCE THE COUNCIL TO TAKE HIM AS A KING?
Suddenly make a lot of sense that Isabella isn't taking any of his shit.
>>141987635 >A broken husk of a man. I'd almost feel bad for him, but so much of it he brought on himself.
This. He is responsible for so much shit. He is lucky that the people didn't execute him. But then again, perhaps it is better for him to live the last days of his life with his mind and body wasting away as he watches everything fall apart.
>>141987545 All Naugus did was heighten preexisting emotions and thoughts. He cannot directly control anyone unless they enter a contract with him, so no - Mobotropolis is naturally this retarded.
>>141987628 Save it for the fan continuations Krudzu! >>141987647 Depressed and defeated Geoffrey is so hot >>141987677 They like to sneak them in. Don't tell Sega!
>>141987723 I've said it before and I'll say it again. Geoffrey is horribly naive and stupid in thinking that Naugus was going to do any good for anyone but himself. He was better off being loyal to only Naugus.
>>141987656 He is just saying that they are coming back to their sense. As much as they felt scared about Nicole, thinking about it for a few minutes immediately lead to the conclusion she saved their whole ass in Sonic #175 and is the one who build them this city in the first place.
>>141987647 >bat wizard laughing his ass off Mood. I love how Naugus has the gall to bitch and moan about having to actually... y'know, rule a kingdom. You wanted to be king. Deal with it.
>>141987656 >he was only enhancing their preexisting feelings. So you admit he’s fucking with their heads. >Why are you so desperate to be an apologist for these assholes? I’m just saying what’s already on the page. The story was clearly written that we aren’t supposed to want Mobotropolis nuked off the map like Nicole simps want.
>>141987753 Geoffrey was only loyal to Nagus because he found him when he was sad kid who just lost his father. Him as rational adult with established morals should have never beloved Nags was ever a good person. Honestly this kinda makes the traitor twist fall apart
>>141987696 Heighten means fucking with their heads. Sure they might have been slightly scared of Nicole before due to the Iron Queen stuff but they didn’t call to take action against her until Naugus appeared.
>>141987698 ... Y'know, maybe that one bitchy anon has a point. Oh NOW you suddenly remember that Nicole was carrying your stupid asses? The comic could've done a better job of conveying that Nagus was actually emitting a retardation field instead of merely amplifying their negative emotions.
>>141987688 As a member of the 30+ club, highly recommend adding some flexibility exercises to your routine. Pilates and yoga are pretty good >>141987723 I do like that he's finally talking back >>141987753 >I've said it before and I'll say it again. Geoffrey is horribly naive and stupid in thinking that Naugus was going to do any good for anyone but himself. Naugus did get him at a young age so I cans ee why he'd have some blindspots >>141987765 She'd notice that he keeps mutating into a Cronenberg monster
>>141987886 And that's it for today! But tomorrow at 7pm, we're doing something special! It's a bunch of comics based on Sega games! Because Archie has to pay the bills and Sega probably demanded they do it. But don't skip out because there's still some mainline Sonic story in there somewhere!
>>141987886 Not a fan of glitcher making his comic that dark >>141987945 Thanks conductor >>141987932 5/10 before Ian, 8/10 afterwards. Really made me like him
>>141987932 I hate the phrase "Character you LOVE to HATE," but it applies to Geoffrey often. It describes him well. Personally, I don't hate him. I don't hate a lot of characters.
Why did Ian take such a big gamble on using Geoffrey of all characters as a central plot point ? And he seemed to do that right when the lawsuit was still going on and characters like Hershey were already being written out.
>>141987723 Geoffrey's brain having it's one (1) rare spark as it's being used for more than just impotently seething. It's absolutely fucking baffling how it took him this long to realize his mentored, who caused INNUMERABLE ATROCITIES AND HELPED SPARK THE GREAT WAR, would somehow "be good for the city".
>>141987945 >Sega probably demanded they do it. I wonder how those game issue demands work in the licensing contracts. Do you think its a quota based thing ?
>>141988004 Bro didn't expect Archie to fumble to bag so hard and for Sega to get impatient and use it as an opportunity to finally get rid of the current universe.
The funny thing is that Penders didn't even sue Archie, Archie tried to sue him as counter when he tried to sue Sega and Bioware and Penders countersued and that's how this snowballed into the reboot when it was revealed they didn't have his contract.
>>141987806 Because he's sexy and up for anything! >>141987829 lmao >>141987830 >Soon... THE PENDERING SHALL BEGIN! ;_; >>141987833 Exactly! >>141987886 >Oh hey, Glitcher! We'll be covering your comic after The Archie Ride. I was going to say that was his work! >>141987920 Yeah, but they were rebuilding >>141987932 Hot design, and it's fun seeing him loose. Could've been a great romantic rival to Sonic if Penders wasn't Penders >>141987959 lmao
>>141988070 >Bro didn't expect Archie to fumble to bag so hard I get that, but even then he was removing side characters that could become trouble later on. Hell, even Tails couldnt say mom. Doesnt make sense to give such a plot importance to Geoffrey at this point.
>>141987978 Remember that, aside from wizard, Geoffrey is supposed to be the Acorn equivalent of a CIA spook who's "seen" and "done" things. He doesn't care that his country's leader is a psycho, he only cared when Naugus turned his wrath inward on the general populace.
>>141988017 Brings me to the edge of my seat much like Archie's highest moments, and we get to dive deeper with the characters emotionally. Great art.
Max fucking dies. DESERVED. Feel bad that Sally had to do it though, she's gonna need some killer therapy whenever she gets deroboticized. I look forward to how she will pull through, and how Sonic will be able to walk with her during that upcoming ordeal.
>>141987971 I just wish he'd make the pages larger resolution! The bath scene was horrifying though >>141987977 Couldn't agree more >>141988070 Archie was compelled to sue him when he registered copyright for several of the Archie characters he created. Part of their license agreement with Sega was that they had to protect the IP
>>141988118 Sega started to crack down on Archie because of the legal dispute. Even if the universe wasn't rebooted, Sega definitely would've told them to make some changes.
>>141988070 Archie still could have won even with that fumble. Their only option was to tell the judge that Sega was the true owner of the characters and the stories. Sega simply refused to enter the courtroom when asked, and left Archie to burn at the stake instead.
This was one of the reasons why Archie would just end the contract altogether. Too much money, and Sega time and time again would give them the short end of the stick.
>>141988209 Wouldn't really be an issue since Archie classic and Game classic were far to different to be compared. Although, right now, the classic split doesn't exist anymore. The classic games officially is the modern game's past again.
>>141987574 >>141987546 >Super Genesis Wave hits New Mobotroplis >Jules wakes up. Whole, flesh and bone again. >Jules: Huh. That was quick. >Bernie: About time. Then again you were always a heavy sleeper. >Jules: Heh. One thing though. >Jules just pulls in Bernie and kisses her and they kiss for a while >Bernie: Wow, definitely missed that. >Amadeus: I know that feeling all too well, old boy. Shame your life had to be lost to....feel again. >Jules: Yeah. I finally got used to having radar sight. >Amadeus: At least you had full sight. Then again so do I! *removes eye patch, showing a healed left eye* >Jules: Nice. >Rosemary: That's all well and good but....our boys. I don't see them! Do you think they're-- >Bernie: Honestly? I don't know but....I have faith. Faith, that despite it all, they're alright. >Jules: Yeah. *Jules looks back with a VERY Sonic like cocky smile* Our boy is the Fastest Thing Alive. And yours? He keeps him going.
>>141988265 It's less split than it was back then. Sega always wanted Modern and Classic not to overlap, but far back then Classic wasn't really allowed to exist,
>>141988209 I'd enjoy Classic comics if they felt more like early Archie, with a different tone more focused on humor. The ones that actually exist are all pretty boring though.
>>141987778 >At last, our moment is here. Out with the old and brittle vessel, and in with a younger, stronger one! >And now it is your darkness that be the ark that sustains me!
>>141987886 I always loved how Jon Grey enjoyed drawing characters having maniacal episodes with the crazy eyes and sharp teeth. He's so good at it. Besides the off panel you just know he redrew that post-possessed Geoffery panel in his own style somewhere.
>>141988342 Classic Sonic shit is inherently boring. Entirely dedicated to being nostalgia crap and basic bitch crap forever. Can't be anything more than that EVER. Modern can be boring crap at times, but it will never reach the lows of dreadfully boring garbage that classic sonic now is.
>>141987932 Under Penders he was one of the worst characters in the comic. He was a smug asshole who called Sonic an inexperienced child even after saving the day multiple times and fucked a minor. He wasn’t even fun to hate because he was supposed to be a good guy and never got his comeuppance. Under Bollers he was less horrible. Most of his team got killed under his command which humbled him a lot. He got a wife who was actually around his age. He was just kind of dull though. Under Ian he finally became a good character. He actually embraced that fans disliked him and heel turned. He got a great new design and unique powers. He didn’t become a complete monster too. He’s clearly in the wrong but you can still kind of understand where he’s coming from.
>>141988361 Man, if fucking Naugus could get away with this stupid ass plan he and Geoffrey clocked up then Xehanort would be running circles around everybody in Mobius
>>141987932 When Penders wrote him he was the most fucking obvious self-insert character you could think of while being super Poochy-esque as well on top of it. When Ian wrote him, he was still an asshole but he wasn't a self-insert anymore and became his own character.
>>141988416 Classic Sonic isn't inherently boring. Hell, just look at Archie before SA1 released and all the fun stuff that was done there. Or even stories like Tails Adventure that never got a proper comic adaptation if you want to look at the games themselves. Or even the Sonic CD cutscenes that people cream themselves over to this day that could inspire the tone of a Classic story.
Sega deliberately decided that Classic = baby, that's why it's bad.
>>141988436 What do you think of Bollers compared to Ian's writing overall? Here's an interesting fact, Bollers later on actually got nominated for an Eisner award.
>>141987688 >40 year old archiecucks That’s actually sad, grow up already ffs you manchild. Even little kids the right age to watch skibidi sonic shit would think you’re pathetic
>>141988416 Classic Sonic is not inherently boring. It doesn't need to focus on nostalgia like Sonic Team does it can go in whatever stylish way it wants. The whole point of Classic Sonic is that it can be the coolest, most stylish shit if the current makers understand it fully.
>>141988507 >That’s actually sad, grow up already ffs you manchild. Even little kids the right age to watch skibidi sonic shit would think you’re pathetic
Bro tf is your problem, leave the dude alone. World's a shitstorm nowadays and if grown men wanna relate to Sonic characters, what's so wrong with that? Jesus Christ
>>141988503 NTA, but I wish Bollars had more time to cook. Most of his run was clashing with Penders. Return the Angel Island was fucking peak. Ian wishes he could write something like that.
Thing I hate about penders bs is how for about a literal fucking decade he did nothing when he won. Do nothing but say he was "working" on it excuse for his "masterpiece". And do nothing but be an ass to any fans of the comic and still is. Only until recently he finally decided to get off his ass. So many years wasted to get it out.
Also dislike how it kinda scared sega from ever doing anything interesting with knuckles again even when they could use chronicles stuff and even make new stuff. Sucks man.
>>141988572 because they're grown men. Weak man create bad times, don't go walking around in your Sonic diaper going googoogaga, you're fucking 40. You have no idea how laughable that is, that's Richmunk-tier shit
>>141988507 You are aware that the game having come in 1991 and the comic and TV show having come in 1993, most people who started reading it then are in their 40's, right?
>>141988677 Bollers started strong but in the middle of his run he took a nosedive in quality and Penders had nothing to do with that. Then he did that weird Benny Lee thing and ended up being uneven in his writing. RTAI was him returning to the way he was before but that would be just about the end of his run except for a few other issues.
>>141988749 Yes there is, adults don't spend all day consooming thomas the tank engine and dora the explorer. Grow up right fucking now you literal manbaby
Very soon you're going to see the most hasty example of legal rewrites with the Endangered Species "arc" and the Chaotix Sonic Universe arc. Like, goddamn.
>>141988729 Not putting too much faith in that knowing how those arcs turned out to be like. Spoilers, nothing really happened since dream team is after and things were normal affrais. And two, Shadow is getting all that attenion soon, he's gonna be sidelined.
>>141988771 >spend all day consooming thomas the tank engine and dora the explorer You're the one projecting that on the OP though, he just said he was 40 while being in a storytime thread, you know literally nothing else about his life.
>>141988692 Penders didn’t cause Sega to do shit. They were already phasing out “Sonic’s shitty friends” because they got bullied by hack game journos. Knuckles was a casualty of the colors era woefully underusing Sonic’s cast.
>>141988837 Is he an archiecuck? Then he revolves his life around a shallow cartoon mascot franchise for 3-5 year old babies, at age 40. He is pathetic.
Don't see the point of trying to get some epic own over others here when we're all fans and participate in discussion over a talking animal franchise for kids here. Like seriously, what are you trying point fingers here
>>141988894 To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if /co/'s average users were way older than other boards. Manga and anime are way more popular nowadays with kids and teens than comic stuff outside of super hero movies.
>>141988800 >Good, Adolf Hitler was an accomplished leader and politician guy pulled a tantrum because he couldn't become a painter or didle his young niece.
Lead his country to an inevitable defeat and economic failure that could only be sustained by taking over more war.
Resulted in his country being ripped in two for several decade and helped communism become more predominant.
Coincedentally Chris-Chan is 41 years old this year. Kinda makes you reconsider what baby toddler comic you're revolving your identity around when you should be thinking about your pension and grandkids, huh?
>>141988953 Relearn history, 40 year old manbaby. The german economy was ruined by the treaty of versaille years before Hitler was even running for any party Maybe you'd know this if you spent more time reading and less time guzzling sugar cereal while replaying sonic satam and archie sonic comics
Turn out "take stuff away from people who actually know how to run their business and then invade other countries once that dry out" wasn't the economical solution the country needed.
>>141988974 Archiefags are an aging community, zoomers aren't interested in the comic and it's been dead since 2017. It's inevitable it's already being forgotten, the only people who still cling on to it are 40+, so why would its fans care about leaving a legacy on this earth either?
>>141989057 He made it better, 40+ year old illiterate, german militarism and railroad construction was the biggest and only effective cure to its prior hyperinflation. Losing the war made it worse, because all war does that.
>>141989075 >He made it better Naah, just taking other people stuff until you run out isn't "making it better". He ran his country to the ground, that's a fact, no matter how much you want to deny it.
>>141989060 You seem to forget people who got into it around like the 160 afterwards point, tons of people have gotten in way after it had been going, joining like the mid 2000’s or reading after hearing from word off mouth. Plus you seem to be obsessed with it even if it’s negatively, also what pussy shit to pop in after the threads have been going for ages and this one has just started ending yet only now you pop in to stir shit
>>141986680 >Sonic lets Eggman escape in Archie >People trip over themselves making excuses for it >Sonic does the same in IDW >"WHAT A FUCKING PSYCHOPATH!"
>>141989115 Wow, that's absolutely fantastic! >>141989166 He's been doing this in Sonic threads for years. Apparently he's been kicked out of every other Sonic fan community. I guess he's got that in common with Kuta! >>141989202 It's pretty funny
>>141989060 >zoomers aren't interested in the comic Zoomers are just now getting into the comic thanks to all those Archie Sonic retrospectives that started popping up on Youtube. Video recaps on youtube is largely how zoomers "read" comics anyway, they may as well be Archie Sonic fans now, as much as they are of anything else.
>>141989272 The sheer inability to self reflect that he is insulting people about reading something from years ago when he is buttmad in Sonic threads for years on end is astoundingly pathetic damn. Funny how this all happens when I leave thread for minute lmao
>>141989276 Genuinely, people have gotten so murder hungry towards villains and it’s odd cause I love villain characters, it always sucks when they are cheaply killed off and story potential goes down the drain, though that’s mainly cause I like villains like the Serpent Society or Bar with No Name occupants who don’t have the immortality that big name villains have.
>>141989346 I mean the fact even that many people still have interest in Archie is nice, i’d much rather people talk about the things worth then just out of context shitposts about the Penders era or taking weaker moments of the comic out of context
Secret Freedom Fighters: >Elias=Sally(Acorn Royal, Team Leader) >Silver=Sonic(Hedgehog hero, team’s greatest asset) >Larry=Tails(Short companion to the hedgehog) >Shard=Bunnie(Robotic member with special right arm, second most powerful) >Leeta and Lyco=Antoine? idk
>>141989217 And best pecs! >>141989310 Yeah, it'd be funny if it wasn't so sad >Funny how this all happens when I leave thread for minute He mostly pops up after everyone's left since he can't handle the bants and really can't handle being ignored >>141989354 He's usually complaining about how he's been "unfairly treated" by whatever community's just kicked him out. I think this one's about an artist that stopped working with him
Ian Flynn wrote Shadow the way he did in IDW because of the mandates. But inside of Archie he got Shadow too far off the other end being to expressive and emotional and smiling too much. I think somewhere in the middle would be a good interpretation of Shadow.
>>141989412 I guess Mario more easily leads to rpg’s, funny how most of Sonic’s ones are online flash games with occasional swearing, dbz sound effects and oc villains.
>>141989459 >I think somewhere in the middle would be a good interpretation of Shadow. So reboot Shadow? That was Ian writing a more game-like Shadow but with less Sega feedback.
>>141989597 Plus the variety of villains lends itself well to arcs and bosses, like Naugus would be great pulling some Culex esque attacks or Mordred Hood making you fight party members or Dr Finitevus using his warp rings for attacks and turn messing shenanigans
>>141989558 I love that Big has no actual explanation why that is the case, he’s just naturally that strong and didn’t even really train for it or get modified in anyway, just is how he is
So during the enerjak vs super sonic fight I think super sonic was weaker than enerjak in the fight but kept throwing knuckles off with his words and unpredictable style. I think that's going to be my Enerjak Reborn headcanon
>>141988070 didnt they have a photocopy of the contract because the real one burned in a fire? and its usually good enough but the judge said not this time?
>>141989891 They did have a photocopy, but allowing it to substitute for the original would undermine pretty much all contract law. Fun fact: Penders used to get in trouble for smoking in the archive room >>141989895 >>141989916 >>141989927 ;_;
>>141989790 >>141989755 >>141989716 only the original is any good, paper mario was always shit oh look its beloved hat goomba my blorbo, and mario and luigi were boring and unfunny
>>141989310 Dude is a total Penders-tier narcissist, which is precisely why every other community told him "No, fuck off" and permabanned him. In an ideal world, we'd have done the same but we haven't so he's unfortunately here to stay.
>>141990097 Man, permabanning on 4chan sounds like it’d be a double edged sword but same time, would save us lot of hassle with the named schizo’s who have run rampant over the years
I finally got how Sonic managed to depower Super Scourge. He told Scourge to face him at base form but him depowering means that he lost all of his stamina.
>>141988460 Xehanort would be outthinking everyone regardless. Like, characters who themselves probably have more of a working brain than 90% of Archie Mobius got repeatedly played for fools like Xehanort up until the very end. And unlike Eggman, the man is intelligent enough to play the long-game and strong enough that when push comes to shove, he can actually kick ass on his own.
>>141988192 Yeah, literally all Sega had to do was enter the court and make it clear that they owned everything and Archie would have been just fine. They didn't because from mthe very beginning, Sega DESPISED the Western side of the franchise and wanted it to die.
I'd question if they regret leaving Archie out to dry with the current state of the franchise and comics, but that would necessitate them possessing a level of self-awareness I doubt they have.
>>141989060 Plenty of Zoomer Sonic fans literally grew up with these comics. And a lot more Zoomers are diving into it lately. Just look online on any platform for fan art and discussion or whatever. And if it weren’t for Penders, Archie would probably still be going or wrapping up soon by now and then Gen Alpha would start to get their hands on it.
And lastly, Zoomer here, 21, was introduced to Sonic by my ex via SatAM and Sonic the Hedgehog 2 on Steam. And then down the Archie hole I went some time later.
>>141989344 I only want villains dead when they've crossed several lines and made it abundantly clear that if they are not permanently stopped, everyone everywhere dies. Both Archie and IDW Eggman have not only crossed that line several times over, but pissed on it for good measure.
>>141990234 I would kill for them to get their own comic run which compiles their character history, fleshes them out, let's them be treated well again and maybe put some new members like Coral Snake/Milk Snake or Sea Krait
>>141990157 >Admires a schizo man who shot himself instead of fighting with his fellow countrymen >Doesn’t have a job. >Spends his days telling people to quit having fun on /co/ after he’s been kicked out of all other sites that discuss about a blue hedgehog.
Well anons… count your blessings, you could’ve ended up like this guy. I’m certainly counting mine right now.
>>141986019 >Didn't know the ride was happening >miss every thread since October >Still manage to miss threads going into January >mfw it's almost the end of the ride and I still can't catch a single thread Maybe next decade....
