Sonic #27-29 Sonic isn’t acting like himself lately! Actually, he still talks and moves like Sonic but he’s working for Robotnik! It’s the Freedom Fighters vs Sonic! And then, after a botched mission, it’s the Freedom Fighters vs… Sally?! What’s going on?! But wait, there’s more! We have a Tails backup story as well as the introduction of two new female characters!
Note: I’m supposed to do issues 27 and 28 along with the Tails backup story from issues 28 and 29 but I’m just going to do 27 to 29 and do the Tails mini tomorrow.
Question: If you could make one hero evil, who would it be?
>>140033541 >We have a Tails backup story as well as the introduction of two new female characters! Let me guess, one of them is a koala, right?
>Question: If you could make one hero evil, who would it be? Honestly none. I generally dislike the idea of heroes becoming villains. Besides, none of the existing heroes actually make any sense to turn heel.
>>140033678 Wow, Snively actually being sensible as fuck here. Just like with adaptable minions, taking advantage of an amnesiac nemesis may seem tempting, but it is ALWAYS a bad idea.
>>140033678 >What is this? A soap opera? Actually it kind of is at times. Well that's where Penders draws his inspiration when he's not ripping off Star Trek! >>140033705 >Sleep tight, Sonic. Don't let the restraints bite! It's just like Amy's Family! >Done. Easily one of Flynn's best ideas
>>140033786 >that editor's note It's kinda sad how a licensed video game tie in comic from the 90s has better continuity and editors actually doing their jobs than the big two.
>>140033785 I suspect that's how he finances his operations in the games. I'd certainly buy a few! >>140033786 >Missed opportunity to have him call you "daddy." It's Sonegg all over again! >>140033910 lmao >>140033922 It varies by the writer
Y'know, I've heard that Penders apparently didn't like using Eggman, and avoided him whenever possible. If that's true, then it's a bit ironic, because he genuinely writes the character quite well.
>>140034072 >Sally:Sonic's acting strange. We must use all our resources to keep him contained and kill him if necessary! This won't even be the worst example.
>>140034137 For someone that has amnesia, Sonic sure seems to remember everything except stuff relating to being a Freedom Fighter and fighting the world's greatest evil.
Can you guys really blame anyone for having back up plans if Sonic goes bad? Very few people on mobius even have a chance of stopping him by going toe to toe.
>>140033964 And people say Penders isn't cool! >>140033969 He's completely obsessed! >>140034025 They later settle on it being a village in a hidden valley only accessible by the tree stump >>140034105 Just like in End of Evangelion!
>>140034281 Yeah I can se why robotnik has such trouble.
>We found a tunnel underground >Whoops it blocked off, send the bomb bots >Whoops it was flooded, send the fishbots >Whoops they abandoned this base a week ago when I launched my first attack >I HATE THAT HEDGEHOOOOOOOG
>>140034311 I get she will get flack but it's a genuine concern and I honestly think sonic would find it grim but understandable of course would hope it wouldnt happen
>>140034225 Can't say I do but it's pretty morbid. Imagine your loved ones having contingecy plans which basically ammount to trying to kill you no matter what, all for the microscopic chance you'll turn evil. Even if you never do (either by choice or by amnesia/mind control) it's gotta fuck up with your mind a bit to know that your loved ones are setting up booby traps with you in mind.
Sally ain't evil but I think she more than anyone needs to accompany me to ethics courses!
>>140034358 >Sonic singing the theme from Cops Turn of that fucking television when you're writing Penders! >>140034360 We see it a lot in SatAM, but I think this is the first time we've seen it in the comic. Sonic and the rest of the Freedom Fighters live in the underground section in the early issues
>>140034547 >knuckles sends hundreds to die fighting sonic Sonic Forces but better where Infinite actually used his reality/perception-bending powers to their fullest potential and brainwashed Sonic to fight for the Eggman Empire.
>>140034636 Right? This is some Frank Miller shit, where he used to be a fantastic creator, but something snapped and turned him into a psychotic hack. What the hell happened to THIS Ken Penders?
>>140034665 Damn, Antoine's balls dropped and he took a pretty good shot at him.
>>140034636 He's a decent writer when he wants to be, but the quality goes down as his ego increases >>140034665 Go Antoine! >>140034704 >sonic assaulting the future council It would explain why they're so hostile to him later on
>>140033541 >Question: If you could make one hero evil, who would it be? Tangle But not like a super evil villain she would just fuck off and join Rough and Tumble
>>140034888 >you can really tell where Ian was starting to get his ideas from i tell people this all the time just from his preboot stories in terms of his writing habits. archie has so much of a stink nobody even bothers anymore, despite how fucking obvious it's all telegraphed
>>140034920 >>140034930 Yeah, he pretty much had a list of characters and concepts he wanted to reuse from the early comics and did a great job of streamlining the canon using them. It's also pretty clear he's aiming for an early Penders style before settling into his own style >>140034934 Gasp, you've discovered my secret!
>>140034961 Easily one of the best covers. It goes so hard! >>140034990 Sigh, enter Dulcy. I guess. >>140035011 lmao, now I'm tempted! >>140035030 That's what's great about Archie, there's a fetish for everyone!
>>140035065 he also had years of preparation. compare that to post-boot and especially idw, where the amount of planning is significantly lesser and suffers for it captcha:DDAGM
>>140035120 I can think of a dozen times you guys could've taken in Robotnik. Remember that time at the fake mall? That time Sonic in a block of ice gave Robotnik a concussion?
>>140034991 Ha fairs, I'm actually fine with all that stuff, I just have a friend who goes on and on about peg shit so much when I already not into the idea which has made me hate it so much, that turns me into bottom panel Patrick
>>140035164 Okay, I as about to call serious bullshit on this idea, but she'll retain her free will. Which has the bonus feature of being extremely sexy. Robotization is hot, but consensual and free-willed robotization is the good shit.
>I can think of a dozen times you guys could've taken in Robotnik. Remember that time at the fake mall? That time Sonic in a block of ice gave Robotnik a concussion? Gag comic, don't worry about it.
Why didnt the FFs all roboticize themselves but with an overrider? It wouldve made them faster, and stronger without much rest to defeat eggman and then turn back later
>>140035120 Antoine you perve! >>140035134 Yeah, Ian's at his best when he's got time to prep and research his stories. I still think his post-boot was really good though, even if the Unleashed storyline dragged on a bit
>>140035230 Yeah she was at her coolest and prettiest in those shirt moments, plus if you keep her there you could make the Zan abuse arc more organically done lmao
>>140035192 >Sally can't look any more vulnerable than that. Sally's butt is legitimately distracting >>140035202 I wish they hadn't made her neck so long >>140035234 Well shit
>>140035398 Good thing you brought that and flew to Robotropolis just in time, Dulcy! >>140035380 She'd keep her free will but pretend she doesn't have it and help the Freedom Fighters sneak in so they can capture Robotnik... somehow. Never mind Sonic has shown he can go right to Robotnik whenever he wants to.
>>140035365 No but see have it build so that she rises above him and batters him even harder, then finds someone better for her or decides to stay with her 4 sacred beast buddies she had
>>140035381 Ooo tough call as both fit super well, I'm thinking Fiona since she was more directly Sally's for but Lien-da already had evil dommy mommy vibes
>>140035537 Now for the two part Tails Backup. Honestly, this doesn't fit in anywhere because in the very story that this takes place after, we see Tails fine. Also the second part of this takes place after the story we just did. So it's best to do this after everything else.
>>140035537 Hold on, they just left? The entire point of the mission was to infiltrate Eggman's base and capture him! Why the fuck did they just let him go? AGAIN. Stop fucking doing that!
>>140035636 >it was at this point that ian dropped the comic in disgust >>140035612 But anon, they got back safely so they can fight Robotnik again in the future! That's all that matters!
>>140035675 >dear archie, >what the fuck did i just read? tails is a kid, he's stupid, and he shouldn't be in a romantic relationship with ANYWAY! >sincerely, >ian flynn
>>140035636 >teen ian felt a slight discomfort as he read this page I can hear him seething even now! >>140035675 >not canon! >nobody likes Tails! >fiona should wear leather pants! We know Ian, we know!
>>140035755 >dear ian, >don't worry, we also think tails isn't ready for a relationship so have it so that she's a robot loyal only to robotnik >sincerely, >archie
I know this is IDW and not Archie related, but does anyone know what is up with the formatting for the hardcover collections? It looks like they redesigned the second printing of the first volume to be white/black checkers instead of blue/black like it initially was. I have OCD and want all my volumes to match, so this is kind of annoying.
>>140035675 I remember catching the last ride pretty much from the start but I must've either missed this page or blocked it out of my memory holy shit. I can only imagine the untold toll this issue/story has taken on the young men out there already damned to be sonic autists
>>140035775 >>Immediately falls for the first fox chick he sees >>Thinks he's automatically owed hootch from the real deal Yeah, that is absolutely on him. The fuck kind of entitled incel shit is that? And he turns on him best friend over it too!
>>140035794 >Eggman in that last panel Fucking SAVAGE.
>>140035794 >betrayed Tails locked in a cage Stop trying to get me in trouble! >>140035821 Yeah, the Archie collections were just as bad, the designs kept changing and my bookshelf looks a mess ;_; >>140035916 That's actually pretty smart
>>140035955 Before there was The Slap™, there was The Sock!™ >Wait, is this still the robot or did the real Fiona swap with her? Imagine them both just whaling on him
>>140035955 >Wait, is this still the robot or did the real Fiona swap with her? I was gonna say, it's pretty funny how the murderbot duplicate of Fiona is just as much of an evil asshole as the original.
>>140036102 EXIT FIONABOT She really doesn't come back. While it's sad to see her cry as Tails leaves only to never come back for her, it's kind of hard to feel sympathy considering how she gave no fucks about almost killing him. Anyway, tomorrow at 7pm EST we'll do the Tails mini! Maybe Tails can find another girl...
>>140034577 >Sonic remembers Tails' name >>140034665 >>140034704 >Sonic recognizes Antoine (?) Is this a subtle sign that his memory's returning or just a writing fluke?
>>140036157 >Frozen in her empty shell, Fiona experienced every passing second as a year. In no time at all she attained sentience and could do nothing but watch as the one potential love of her life left her on this beach for all eternity.
>>140036157 >>140036157 >While it's sad to see her cry as Tails leaves only to never come back for her, it's kind of hard to feel sympathy considering how she gave no fucks about almost killing him. I can fix her! ... And then she can step on me.
>>140036157 I actually like Tails with Barby so hope that goes somewhere, anyway see you next thread conductor, I'll even forgive you of your evil crime earlier when Sally got choked by Sonic
>>140036336 I think it's cute, I usually hate the idea of pairing Tails since it's always selfinserty and not in service to either character, though the actual pairings he has like Zooey and Cosmo were actually not bad but I find his dynamic with Barby fun
>>140036705 Yeah will have to find the pages with the red dress again in the Harvey Who issue and also attempt the longer hair look, currently just waiting on Sonally smut pic by Joeadok
>>140036741 He has said he hates Tails with Barby and would smother it or something like that. He really, really doesn't like that ship and seems to not like Tails having any kind of romance. The thing between Tails and the real Fiona is painful. Another writer started that but Ian took it to the next level when he took over. It's so bad that Yardley drew Tails and another fox girl exchanging flirty glances as a kind of consolation.
>>140036813 He doesn't like romance for child characters and it's likely that he was bothered by Tails fans to the point that he avoids it out of spite.
>>140034225 Now i'm imagining a JLA: Tower of Babel-styled story where Eggman finds that Sally has hidden plans to defeat all the FF in case they go bad and uses them against the team.
>>140036943 >Sally has hidden plans to defeat all the FF in case they go bad Considering how her plans did jackshit to stop Sonic, I doubt they're worth much.
>>140036943 Freedom Fighters Plans >Sonic: Hire Nack. No Money? Get Shadow or Knuckles. >Rotor: Lead Pipe to his Back >Bunnie: EMP >Nicole: EMP Then Smash the PDA >Sally: Nude Pictures of Monkey Khan >Twan: Poison his wine & cheese >Tails: Nude Pictures of Fiona
>>140037073 >He said Robot, Nicole is AI. Same thing. Artificial intelligence doesn't suddenly classify as something else just because of the nature of their physical appearance. Mechanoid chassis, hard light projection, still a mind made of 1s and 0s.
>>140037071 Oh piss off, you borderline domestic terrorist.
>>140036157 It's hard to feel sympathetic for her, but considering what happens later, it would've somehow still would have been the better option. >Maybe Tails can find another girl... Not if Ian Flynn has anything to say about it! >>140036192 Part of me wants to say that "you know why" but I'm not sure if her age actually comes up.
>>140037302 >It's hard to feel sympathetic for her, but considering what happens later, it would've somehow still would have been the better option. At least Auto-Fiona had the excuse of being programmed to follow orders.
>>140036919 We're still in the era where Ken hasn't realized that Sega basically lets him do whatever the fuck he wants with Knuckles. Once he does, then shit will start hitting the fan.
>>140037466 I think Elias would be a power-type character if he appeared in Post-Genesis or the games. Would be really cool to see with his buster sword.
>>140037480 Yup. Sega, from the sounds of things, rarely cared about the comic outside of certain points (notably Endgame) and they especially didn't care about Knuckles' comic. Ken has stated that ideas that got shot down for Sonic passed through without incident when pitched for Knuckles.
>>140037425 Originally, the stuff with Knuckles was what Ken originally planned to do with Sonic, but Sega rejected it, but didn't make a fuss about it being done with Knuckles.
>>140037959 Could you imagine the alternate universe where SEGA gave zero shits about the comic period and let Ken do all those crazy stories with Sonic instead
Between Fiona, Cosmo, Rouge (kinda), and probably some other characters I'm missing, it actually is kind of weird how much of a ship magnet Tails has been in the franchise
>>140039247 Probably the result of different continuities which get compelled to give Tails a love interest (which the games never seriously did). Sonic usually has Amy and Knuckles would eventually get Rouge now I wonder about the timeline where Shade actually got to be a recurring character.
>>140039247 >ship magnet Tails has been in the franchise He really isn't. Cosmo and Zoey were from side media, Fiona never liked him and Rouge is just a shit pairing that only the annoying self-inserters keep pushing.
>>140036157 What a strange little Tails mini. Seeing him as such a love sick loser is kinda shit tbqh, even when said love is drowning him forcibly and is also a fucking Badnik. As always thanks Conductor.
>>140040085 When you think about it, Zonic's the real villain >>140040125 And he should be dating Charmy or Shadow! >>140040535 Fetishes are the keystone of the entire franchise!
>>140040753 The subscriptions were worth getting since you would save off the original price and didn't have to worry about your store suddenly not getting their issues on time, or just stopped selling them altogether. There was also a point in time when Archie would send them out sometimes up to two weeks earlier than the street date.
>>140036859 >it's likely that he was bothered by Tails fans to the point that he avoids it out of spite. if they are as bad as the one here i can understand why
>>140035504 >>140035537 >we are the underground resistance movement, punching upwards, with a dragon The story's fun but this seems a bit powerful to have.
Dulcy acting like she's always been in the comic when she was just put there because she was in SatAM felt incredibly janky. Honestly feels like issue 29 is a turning point.
>>140036192 >>140036336 Barby was fun since she was the one who actively liked Tails instead of the other way round. After his other bullshit it would have been fun seeing some other character smitten with Tails and thinking Tails is the best instead of Tails pining one-sidedly. Unfortunately I don't think anyone else has ever tried that with any other character. And it's a fun contrast between her action-girl confidence and his timid up-and-coming hero concept. Probably a similar reason people like Tails and Rouge. Cute boy Tough girl. Barby did have character.
Greeting's /co/cksluts, did you know we've already entered the most important week of the year in the Sonic calendar? That's right, it's none other than Sonknux week 2023! I'll be posting some cute art from day 1, which has the theme Rescue. As always, artists are in the filenames.
>>140044676 He sure does love those grapes. Perhaps because their color is a mix of red and blue? >>140044674 We're number two! It means less art, but at least the art that is there doesn't have the disfunctional yaoi couple problems Sonadow can attract
>>140044798 Oh my! Unsurprisingly, this is one of my favorite Sonknux artists >>140044800 We did a few short comics with him before. He's absolutely adorable!
>>140044854 And we'll end it with this heartwarming scene. Tune in next thread for day 2: Pirates! >>140044869 Yeah, you can feel the drama crank up to 11
>>140045224 Wasn't it also around this issue set that SatAM was cancelled? IIRC SatAM getting cancelled was kind of a flag for the writers to basically turn the comic more in the direction of it.
>>140045576 >>140045607 I find it funny that Ian shitting on Tails is one of the few things that survived from the pre-reboot Archie days. I guess he must be very passionate about it.
