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Unofficial Sonic Storytime: Sonic Redux Chapter 3

No.139001552
Previous Thread: >>138983929

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Sonic and the Freedom Fighters Fancomic: https://mobiuscomics.com
Unofficial Ride Website: https://the-ride.neocities.org

The newest chapter of Sonic Redux is out and it’s a chunky one! Not only will we get see Sonic’s first fight against Robotnik but find out about the mysterious chaos emeralds!

https://www.deviantart.com/sonicredux

Question: Some artists have stopped working on their individual comics to help on bigger projects. Archie Sonic Online and Sonic Legacy come to mind. Do you like it when artists and writers band together at the sacrifice of their solo work?

Sonic and the Freedom Fighters Note: One of the earliest ideas I had for the comic was a “Five Nightmares” series of arcs that would show each Freedom Fighter dealing with some mental issue and be brought to their lowest point. They would eventually bounce back only for an evil alternate universe version of them to fight them. But I mostly abandoned this because Scourge and the Suppression Squad would be redundant. You can still see the remnants of that in this series. (Sonic = Anger, Sally = Depression, Tails = Isolation, Antoine = Cowardice, and Bunnie = Emotionless)

Also, last thread had an update for Nectar: The World Before. Check the OP of the last thread for posts replying to it.
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No.139001591
>>139001552
I doubled some pages and had to resave them as jpg files because of course these pages had to be png and super large so that their file size is too much to post here. As for doubling pages that's because the action is to spread out.
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No.139001608
>>139001591
Last time, Sonic was harassing Robotnik. Looks like he's still at it.
No.139001609
>>139001552
>Some artists have stopped working on their individual comics to help on bigger projects. Archie Sonic Online and Sonic Legacy come to mind. Do you like it when artists and writers band together at the sacrifice of their solo work?
Sure, as it guarntees a bit more of something cool coming out
>Sonic and the Freedom Fighters Note
On one hand, kinda neat maybe you could rework it. On the other hands, im still scarred from ian traumatizing the FFs and into misery all around so Im also kinda iffy.
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No.139001619
>>139001608
What a cocky brat.
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No.139001643
>>139001619
Shouldn't those badniks already be trying to stop Sonic?
>>139001609
>kinda neat maybe you could rework it.
Mostly scrapped but part of it is still there. The rest is unnecessary.
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No.139001660
>>139001643
This is what I meant by doubling pages. In contrast, Sonic and the Freedom Fighters have several panels every page. And the artist always manages to add more to them.
No.139001661
>>139001552
>Some artists have stopped working on their individual comics to help on bigger projects. Archie Sonic Online and Sonic Legacy come to mind. Do you like it when artists and writers band together at the sacrifice of their solo work?
I guess it really depend of what the solo work was.

>Bunnie = Emotionless
I am not sure if that one work wel for that character.
No.139001667
>>139001552
>Question: Some artists have stopped working on their individual comics to help on bigger projects. Archie Sonic Online and Sonic Legacy come to mind. Do you like it when artists and writers band together at the sacrifice of their solo work?
No, not really. It just reminds me of Evan completely dumsptering GOTF entirely because she got gobbled up by IDW, which was lower quality in literally all aspects.

>Sonic and the Freedom Fighters Note: One of the earliest ideas I had for the comic was a “Five Nightmares” series of arcs that would show each Freedom Fighter dealing with some mental issue and be brought to their lowest point. They would eventually bounce back only for an evil alternate universe version of them to fight them. But I mostly abandoned this because Scourge and the Suppression Squad would be redundant. You can still see the remnants of that in this series. (Sonic = Anger, Sally = Depression, Tails = Isolation, Antoine = Cowardice, and Bunnie = Emotionless)
Interesting. Psychological issues in media have mostly been poisoned for me, but characters should still have their flaws picked at in my opinion.

Anyways, LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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No.139001673
>>139001660
Drill goes brrrrr!
No.139001678
>>139001643
>why you little
He said the thing.
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No.139001697
>>139001673
More action.
>>139001661
>I am not sure if that one work wel for that character.
Family drama and an unwanted upgrade.
No.139001727
>>139001552
Sonic Redux chapter 1:
https://the-ride.neocities.org/threads/137901002
Sonic Redux Chapter 2:
https://>>138477924
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No.139001731
>>139001697
I would've lumped this with the others but I didn't want to triple a page.
>>139001667
>Interesting. Psychological issues in media have mostly been poisoned for me, but characters should still have their flaws picked at in my opinion.
I don't mind issues as long as it doesn't drag the story down. In this case it would be the driving force for improvement.
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No.139001746
>>139001731
Thinking and dodging!
>>139001678
Clap clap clap! Get the reference! Clap clap clap!
>>139001727
Thanks!
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No.139001772
>>139001746
I guess you could say that's drilling at full power!
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No.139001786
>>139001772
He's back!
No.139001799
>>139001697
>>139001731
It's kind of weird how Eggman never feels the need to create stronger badniks for his big debut. I think only Sonic Genesis had him open with badniks that were tough enough on their own to be a serious issue for even Sonic.

>>139001772
Sonic figured it out!
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No.139001812
>>139001786
No seriously, what are these badniks doing?
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No.139001840
>>139001812
Classic.
>>139001799
The way I see it, his badniks and mechs get stronger but so does Sonic.
No.139001857
>>139001552
>Question
Easily solo work. I enjoy the group projects but solo or small teams have a more coherent style and tone
>Sonic and the Freedom Fighters Note
Huh. The current comic does feel like it's still touching on these mental issues, although it's probably not as central to the plot
>>139001786
Smugnic time!
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No.139001858
>>139001840
Sick pose. You should put that on a game cover or something.
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No.139001885
>>139001858
Oh?
>>139001857
>Huh. The current comic does feel like it's still touching on these mental issues, although it's probably not as central to the plot
Just a side thing to bring up from time to time.
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No.139001903
>>139001885
Almost...
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No.139001920
>>139001903
Denied!
No.139001950
>>139001885
>Just a side thing to bring up from time to time.
I think the current balance works well. They all should have issues to deal with, but not to the extent of Flynn's "year of hell" arc
>>139001920
Sonic the cockblock-hog!
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No.139001952
>>139001920
Game!
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No.139001979
>>139001952
Things aren't looking good for Robotnik.
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No.139002006
>>139001979
Nice try.
>>139001950
>I think the current balance works well. They all should have issues to deal with, but not to the extent of Flynn's "year of hell" arc
I wouldn't go that hard. I prefer tackling things one at a time than piling them all on everyone without letting up.
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No.139002026
>>139002006
Reminds me of that Lex Luthor mini where he's staring Superman who's eyes are glowing red and he looks evil because it's from Lex's point of view.
No.139002039
>>139002006
Alas, Dr. Robotnic, Guns aren't Sonic's One Weakness.

Maybe if you had a gun that shoot super-duper Fast bullet and you were the president...
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No.139002051
>>139002026
Better luck next time!
No.139002055
>>139001812
Being useless, clearly.
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No.139002068
>>139002051
At least he knows not to talk too much or stick around for too long.
No.139002071
>>139001885
Everything is coming up Eggman!

>>139001920
Or they would be, if Sonic weren't here.
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No.139002090
>>139002068
Buh-bye!
>>139002039
Damn! And I thought guns could beat everything!
No.139002098
>>139002006
You tried.
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No.139002116
>>139002090
https://youtu.be/Li5c72TvrII?si=XIp6gzf18-mmw6Pn
>>139002055
They're too busy patrolling that open area and minding their business.
>>139002071
So close and yet so far.
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No.139002136
>>139002116
Woop! Woop!
>>139002098
In the end it doesn't even matter.
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No.139002152
>>139002136
Sonic doesn't seem to be aware just how strong he is.
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No.139002163
>>139002152
Yeah, police! Why don't you have super powers, too?
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No.139002181
>>139002163
Sonic's pretty good at making enemies.
No.139002182
>>139002006
>I wouldn't go that hard. I prefer tackling things one at a time than piling them all on everyone without letting up.
Yeah, in trying to have high stakes and a mature tone, Flynn tends to put the characters through the meat grinder. It loses sight of inherent fun of a blue rat and his friends having adventures and saving the world
>>139002026
>Reminds me of that Lex Luthor mini where he's staring Superman who's eyes are glowing red and he looks evil because it's from Lex's point of view.
That's what I love about Luthor. If Superman were anything less than completely morally righteous, Luthor would be completely justified in taking him down.
No.139002191
>>139002163
>thanks god this comic isn't playing the trope of the police arresting the hero for saving the day, thinking he caused the damage
>proceed to insult an officer
Damn it, Sonic!
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No.139002199
>>139002181
Sonic's tradeoff for being super fast? Super impatient and super dumb.
>>139002182
>Yeah, in trying to have high stakes and a mature tone, Flynn tends to put the characters through the meat grinder. It loses sight of inherent fun of a blue rat and his friends having adventures and saving the world
Chasing that milestone comeback. What a shame.
No.139002210
>>139002181
>The local authority actually know about he Chaos Emeralds.
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No.139002221
>>139002199
>6 chaos emeralds
I see we're sticking to the number of them from the first game.
>>139002191
Now when they do harass him they'll be justified.
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No.139002238
>>139002221
Cue all the conspiracies about their origin.
>>139002210
Seems to be pretty common knowledge in this series. At least the obvious stuff.
No.139002248
>>139002221
>writing tip: make your protagonist an ignoramus so that lore exposition can be diegetic
No.139002252
>>139002163
Remington could've handled him!
>>139002199
>Chasing that milestone comeback. What a shame.
I wish more writers would just ignore milestone issues
>>139002238
Turns out is was space aliens the whole time!
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No.139002257
>>139002238
That's a lot of energy!
No.139002268
>>139002221
>6 chaos emerald
I like when the writing don't forget it started with 6.
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No.139002288
>>139002257
Well, that sucks!
No.139002312
>>139002248
lmao
>>139002288
Seems like Sonic wasn't paying attention in school
No.139002317
>>139002288
>Mobian
Not holding my hope up, but it's always nice to see the term used.
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No.139002321
>>139002288
That sucks even more!
>>139002248
There needs to be a situation where the reader comes in and explains it to the protagonist before going back.
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No.139002360
>>139002321
That sucks the most!
>>139002252
>I wish more writers would just ignore milestone issues
I have no problem with them being special but Ian was prolonging things for the sake of it. Most writers don't go to that extreme.
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No.139002378
>>139002360
Got a couple of name drops. That second one sounds familiar.
>>139002268
Where did the seventh one come from?
>>139002312
Sounds like he dropped out.
No.139002385
>>139002321
I like how that police officer is able to recognise such powerful, mythical and rare object at first sight when he has likely never encounter a real one in his life before.
>on second look, it's just a cheap plastic replica with a led on the inside.
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No.139002386
>>139002238
Fuck everyone else, we humble Echidna mastered the Chaos Emeralds first!
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No.139002397
>>139002378
Now we know where 4 of them are.
>>139002317
Only Sega seems against using the term.
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No.139002418
>>139002378
>Where did the seventh one come from?
Sonic 2. In origins, when you finish Sonic 1, the 6 emeralds give Sonic a vision where he see a 7th emerald appearing and joining the others.
No.139002426
>>139002360
>Pictured: The First Echidna Chaos Fuckup
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No.139002439
>>139002397
So that's why that name sounded familiar!
>>139002385
Even funnier when children know more about them than Sonic does. They probably have illustrations and have to do essays on them.
No.139002443
>>139002116
That's a really pretty emerald.
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No.139002457
>>139002439
Interesting...
>>139002418
That's a good way to explain it.
No.139002471
>>139002152
He is a kid, to be fair. He probably doesn't really have any context that normal kids, Mobian or not, can't just tear through solid steel like he can.

>>139002163
Sonic pls
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No.139002484
>>139002457
Sonic already knows these chumps can't protect themselves so they definitely won't be able to protect the chaos emerald.
>>139002386
Just like the Master Emerald! Just ask Pachacamac!
No.139002486
>>139002360
I blame it all on the Superblock urban-planning. 15 minute cities will doom us all.
No.139002492
>>139002181
Claiming that cop twink.
No.139002506
>>139002199
No wonder he's such a himbo when he's older.
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No.139002518
>>139002484
The concern is appreciated but Sonic already proved he's more capable than you guys.
>>139002471
He does seem to be unaware how much faster he is compared to everyone else.
No.139002522
>>139002360
>I have no problem with them being special but Ian was prolonging things for the sake of it. Most writers don't go to that extreme.
Fair enough. It's possible to shift things around for it to work, but Flynn definitely went too far
>>139002426
The first of many!
>>139002484
lmao
>>139002492
Fuck the police! Plap plap!
No.139002546
>>139002385
>>on second look, it's just a cheap plastic replica with a led on the inside.
Wait, as Sega licensed any business to actually make actual Emeralds toy/collector display of Emeralds that can glow?
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No.139002554
>>139002518
So close. You just missed him.
>>139002426
AIIEEEE!
>>139002443
PRECIOUS!
>>139002486
So many people in one place isn't good when it all goes BOOM!
No.139002565
>>139002238
It was the latter one. Though jury's still out on the Master Emerald.

And claiming that farmer twink.
No.139002575
>>139002492
Isn't that a girl, though?
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No.139002576
>>139002554
Sorry, Sonic went into the light. RIP!
>>139002492
>twink
That's a woman.
>>139002506
Nobody ain't got time for education!
No.139002585
>>139002288
>a hundred year war over the emeralds
Jesus
No.139002602
>>139002484
And so Sonic became a criminal.
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No.139002619
>>139002576
>i should've stopped him
Literally how?
>>139002522
>Fair enough. It's possible to shift things around for it to work, but Flynn definitely went too far
And I'll be fair to Ian, I don't think he saw a forced Genesis mini arc and a crossover with Mega Man followed by a reboot to happen. Still, shouldn't have done it.
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No.139002628
>>139002484
>>139002518
Sonic ste the Emerald for himself! Probably to sell it in the black market!! Ulrich, forget that Kingpin/HYDRA/Hand/Maggia story, we have our front page scoop!!!!
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No.139002648
>>139002619
You couldn't convince him or stop him.
>>139002565
We'll probably never get anything on the Master Emerald. Never to be explained and will always be there to tie Knuckles to the island.
No.139002668
>>139002546
Not yet at least
>>139002565
Sold!
>>139002585
Real was have been fought over for less
>>139002619
>And I'll be fair to Ian, I don't think he saw a forced Genesis mini arc and a crossover with Mega Man followed by a reboot to happen. Still, shouldn't have done it.
Yeah, I do generally like his work, but these long drawn out arcs always fuck him over
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No.139002672
>>139002648
Is Sonic a top?
>>139002585
War is bad! Mkay!
>>139002602
And this will come back to bite him in the ass during Sonic Adventure 2.
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No.139002693
>>139002672
Time to get shitfaced!
>>139002628
>jjj is a bigger problem for sonic than eggman
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No.139002714
>>139002693
This page was necessary.
>>139002668
>Yeah, I do generally like his work, but these long drawn out arcs always fuck him over
And Metal Virus was when he called it quits on those.
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No.139002736
>>139002714
Look at those majestic mountains and beautiful blocks.
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No.139002751
>>139002736
Good to see Sonic's not a complete idiot.
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No.139002764
>>139002751
Fire!
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No.139002779
>>139002764
Kind of lonely. Would be nice to have a companion. Maybe later.
No.139002780
>>139002672
>Is Sonic a top?
Depends on the artist. Most keep him as one or the other, but that's mostly a fujo thing. True connoisseurs write him as verse (the correct option)
>>139002693
Ha! It is a girl!
>>139002714
>And Metal Virus was when he called it quits on those.
He really should've delayed that one. It would've been fine for the reboot, but we hadn't explored nearly enough of the world for it to have the gravitas needed in IDW
>>139002751
>Good to see Sonic's not a complete idiot.
What a twist!
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No.139002810
>>139002779
And that's it! Tomorrow at 7pm we'll do more comics!
No.139002820
>>139002810
Thanks, conductor.
No.139002851
>>139002810
Thanks Konductor! Oh, and remember you've got that 500+ page Sonadow comic by Kometa199441 in the mega!
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No.139002856
>>139001552
Sonic Now Page 115
https://www.tumblr.com/theartpal
Tikal is back after defeating that rat thing and Nicole has all the info! Now!
No.139002870
>>139002810
Cheers conductor. This is a pretty well told "Sonic's first tussles with Robotnik" comic.
No.139002878
>>139002820
No problem!
>>139002851
I'll clear some more comics and then we can start that.
No.139002887
>>139002856
>grayface
It keeps bothering me.
No.139002920
>>139002878
>I'll clear some more comics and then we can start that.
No rush. Who knows, we might even get more pages out by then!
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No.139002985
>>139002856
Tikal, pls.
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No.139002991
https://d0d0-b0i.tumblr.com/post/726481602410151936/hes-a-serious-guy-sonic-a-professional-not
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>>139002991
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>>139003008
No.139003040
>>139001920
This is the asshole sonic the games need.
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No.139003041
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No.139003099
https://smallpwbbles.tumblr.com/post/726464602345488384/i-dunno-if-i-asked-this-already-but-if-youre
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No.139003126
>>139003099
No.139003127
>>139002317
Everyone but SoJ loves the term.

>>139002321
Just slap that baby in a mech. What could go wrong?
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No.139003136
>greatest hits
>barely appears and barely does shit
lol
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No.139003146
>>139003126
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No.139003160
>>139003146
No.139003182
>>139002779
>shivering and cold

The real reason to keep a talking fur coat around.
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No.139003202
>>139003160
I am sure it was meant to be an affectionate head-pat, Tails.
No.139003239
>>139002360
I blame Locke for this.
No.139003254
>>139003154
What is the canon explanation for Honey becoming a Mobian?
No.139003275
>>139003254
Two different characters.
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No.139003278
That guy who wrote sa2 apparently drew this years ago
No.139003288
>>139003278
A god living among mortals
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No.139003330
>>139003288
he's overrated af, mid, and all that shit people say about ian worshippers apply to him infinity times but no one is ready for that convo yet so thats all ill say.
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No.139003351
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No.139003379
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No.139004111
Now this scene makes sense.
No.139004199
>>139004111
ummmm.... meow???
No.139004373
>>139002397
Thank God Eggman left already.
No.139004389
>>139002484
Sonic, please stop giving JJJ more ammunition against you.
No.139004409
>>139002575
>>139002576
I can make them into a dude, with the power of the emeralds. ALL SYSTEMS FULL POWER
I WON'T BE DENIED TWINKS
No.139004495
>>139002714
>an actual cop twink
Claiming this one.
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No.139004549
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapetum_lucidum
According to the looking around I've done, of the "core" FF crew, Bunnie and Rotor are the only ones who can't see in the dark. Though conversely, they're also less sensitive to bright lights than the others.
No.139004591
>>139004549
Them and Sally.
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No.139004796
OH NO NO NO THE ENDSISTERS WE GOT TOO COCKY
No.139004817
>>139004796
Ms. Ikaruga Boss can't catch a break.
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No.139005178
>>139003278
Wow, I had no idea he was that good at drawing. I've only seen his rough storyboards for SA2
>>139004409
Bring out the eyelash trimmer!
>>139004495
Sold! I've already got my eye on a certain constable anyway
>>139004549
That makes sense
>>139004796
Yeah but we all know Argus could beat them both
No.139005231
>>139004796

So the end was really gassing itself up, huh? Still, the end is total crap.
No.139005256
>>139005231
The End was shit even before this dropped.
No.139005279
>>139005256
That's what I was saying. It's shit then and will still be shit afterwards no matter what they change.
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No.139005311
https://twitter.com/Cyngawolf/status/1693304341896007997
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No.139005317
No.139005366
Speaking of arbitrary milestones, we've just passed 175,000 posts in these threads!
>>139004817
lmao. That was even more bizarre than the pinball minigame
>>139005311
That's adorable
>>139005317
He's so pretty!
No.139005387
>>139005366
>Speaking of arbitrary milestones, we've just passed 175,000 posts in these threads!
Woah. How do you even keep track of that
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No.139005465
>>139005387
That's the benefit of scripting everything,
I don't have to! When I generate the index page for the archived threads it pulls in thread stats from the database I store all the posts in. I should probably track how many times twinks are mentioned too!
>>139005412
I absolutely love their dynamic
No.139005741
>>139005366
Pinball minigame had some fire FM-synth tunes though. Like OutRun mixed with Fantasy Zone.
No.139005842
Have we ever done other M for these threads? If not, that would be fun to do
No.139006304
>>139005741
It was enormously frustrating to beat, but the music was fantastic
>>139005842
We have!
https://the-ride.neocities.org/comics/2022-05-30-other-m/
No.139006597
>>139004796
The End needed four things things that can outright kill Super Forms + an entire reality powered by all the chaos emeralds to merely stall and imprison when it was at full power vs Solaris, who got its shit rocked by 3 of them, couldn't even kill any of them instantly (though it could harm them), and only lasted that long because it had a unique defense mechanism of existing in all points of time and space simultaneously. I really, really don't give a damn what Ian "claims" is true here when the showings clash so horrendously.

I likewise don't believe random fucking Twitter posts or people making broad statements of what Ian says on the Bumblekast here or elsewhere since everyone likes to fucking lie or falsify everything Ian says for some ungodly reason. So until I get a video timestamp and link, this is just bullshit to me.
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No.139006682
>>139004796
>>139006597
>Q:When the End said he devoured/destroyed Worlds was that referring to Universes, Planets or Both? Also Is The End the strongest enemy in the Sonic franchise as a whole so far? Your opinion as a casual and as a lore manager what’s your take on that?
>Ian: The intention was planets and I think we've discussed this before. When you get down to it, Solaris is probably the most powerful but The End's pretty high ranked up there. Second place at least.

The exact statement. Keep in mind that Ian and Kishimoto have vastly different interpretations of The End, with the latter treating it as a pre-universal arbiter of existential order instead. That and this question was asking him from his position as a casual - you need to understand that Ian has said actual verifiable bullshit before like "Sonic doesn't grow stronger over time", "Sonic can't move FTL", "he loses all his powers between games", and "he's not very strong outside of his Super Form/the Super Form isn't that powerful" and has freely admitted he had no idea the Sonic/Amy lines were even in Frontiers or how to activate them depsite writing the script.

I'm not one of those people who automatically distrusts everything he says or religiously and obsessively despises the man for even existing, but Ian is a very, VERY casual kind of guy when it comes to non-Archie lore and he also doesn't give a shit towards powerscaling and will make blatantly contradictory statements in regards to lore or the scale certain villains operate on as it suits him.
No.139006816
>>139006597
It's kinda weird he'd even make the comparison to Solaris, since unlikely we'll ever be seeing it again in the games or comics. Solaris was newly (re)formed when the hedgehogs fought is so I'd imagine it wasn't at its full power. It was also introduced as more of a local deity like Chaos, so you'd think Solaris would be stronger than Chaos, but around that power level. I'd argue Dark/Light Gaia would be more powerful than both of them.
The End was introduced as the Sonic universe's version of Glactus, so it should be a much larger threat. My highly subjective ranking:
>Sonic and friends (plot armor, the good guys always win)
>The End
>Dark/Light Gaia
>Solaris
>Eclipse canon
>Devil Doom (Black Doom)
>Final Hazard (Biolizard)
>Time Eater (it's probably just a weakened Mephiles anyway)
>Perfect Chaos
>Mother Wisp

>>139006682
>Ian is a very, VERY casual kind of guy when it comes to non-Archie lore
100% this. He got a maddening amount of stuff wrong in the Encyclo-speed-ia
No.139006864
>>139006816
Why does The End want to kill everything so badly? What does it have to gain? Or to lose?
No.139006912
>>139006864
Varies in both scripts, but in both its goals revolve around 'Order'. In the original English script, it desires to erase everything and leave only perfect nothingness out of a combination of sheer malicious sadism and because it views Life (and therefore Chaos) as being a stain on the blissful state of nonexistence preceding all things. In the JP script, it's more like a universal arbiter who deems Life too chaotic and uncontrollable to operate within a functioning system/universe, so it seeks to wipe it out - not necessarily out of malice, but simply stone-cold logic that would put any Eggman drone to shame. When it's defeated in the JP script, it even seems to come to an understanding regarding life as a whole and doesn't sound vexed or antagonistic over being stopped at all like it does in the English version.

Basically, it's a case where it's an omnicidal psychopath in one version and in the other it's basically no different from a cosmic operating system or paperclip maximizer.
No.139006926
>>139006912
So it's fucking nothing, then.
No.139006983
>>139006926
CARLOS
No.139007016
>>139006864
>>139006912
My interpretation was it just wants the universe to be quiet, orderly, sterile, and for it to be the only sentient lifeform (which is pretty much SatAM Robotnik's ultimate goal). The JP script may make it out as some cosmic force that's doing things dispassionately, but we see it's capable of deception, making decisions, and appealing to emotions. I'd argue it genuinely wants to destroy things for its own reasons, not just because it's the cosmic equivalent of a natural disaster
No.139007146
>>139002856
Thank God for Nicole.
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No.139007284
https://twitter.com/pholooo/status/1693818707884319017
No.139007302
>>139004549
That's probably going to be a problem for any night owls amongst them.
No.139007512
>>139007284
>All the world's Tails are mine!
Rouge, probably
No.139007535
>>139007284
Feel like this artist is in agreement with tP on his view on Sail.
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No.139007608
>>139007535
I'm glad more people have seen the light!
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No.139007636
https://twitter.com/Tibatuka/status/1694352283168047276
No.139007878
>>139003127
Maybe Mo Bi A Su spells or sounds like something rude in Japanese.
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>>139007878
https://www.google.com/search?q=mobius+strip+in+japanese&sca_esv=559654558&iflsig=AD69kcEAAAAAZOcS6yw3dQUUvsrUZnmNGoXeOQ-MzK0I
Mobius strip translate like this in japanese:
メビウスの輪
I think the term is common enough to not be an issue.
No.139007944
>>139007878
https://translate.google.com/?sl=en&tl=ja&text=Mobius+strip%0A&op=translate
"Mobius strip" translate like this in japanese:
メビウスの輪
I think the term is common enough to not be an issue.
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No.139008023
>>139007146
One of the few characters who is consistently great. If I had the choice of one and only one SatAm character to be in the games, it'd have to be Nicole, no question. I love this precious angel.
No.139008223
>>139006597
Sage literally killed it by just flying one of those things through it.
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No.139008252
>>139008223
Well, Solaris was literally killed by a meek human blowing out a candle.

https://www.deviantart.com/joeadok/art/Eli-Ellie-747901751
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No.139008432
>>139008223
At its literal absolute weakest. And on top of that, it was "killed" - by all indications, it just let go of that physical form rather than actually dying, which may not be an applicable concept for it. To add to this, if we're talking about pathetic deaths, Solaris died by getting blown out like a candle by a human teenager.

Not like any of this matters anyway, since Final Horizon is 100% going to soft-retcon the final fight of the base game.
No.139008434
>>139008023
I think it's the character Ian regret the most he can't use.
No.139008449
>>139007284
>an entire band of Tails
GOD I WISH THAT WAS ME
No.139008489
>>139008432
>At its literal absolute weakest
Says who? It was at its strongest and still only planetary
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No.139008505
Sonic, but it’s super popular in Korea for some reason
No.139008548
>>139008489
>Says who?
Sage, literally seconds before you face its true form (or a QTE if you don't play on Hard). She outright states that if it regains its full strength, "not even Super Sonic will be able to stop it".

>It was at its strongest and still only planetary
You do realize that if we take this logic to its conclusion, this retroactively makes all Super Forms sub-planetary and erases all ltheir universal/multiversal feats since the Titans are the only thing in the entire franchise barring Archie stuff outright capable of killing characters through Super Forms regardless of Ring count, right? And those same Titans all together COULDN'T beat The End, which is why they had to seal it.
No.139008683
>>139008548
Almost all their physical, obvious “feats” are sub planetary. Superforms get hurt by boats in Heroes, and in Rush Adventure. It took two of them to struggle fighting a large salamander attached to a satellite. Egg Nega says outright he’s gonna blow up the planet to kill Super Sonic/Blaze in Rush Adventure.
All “universal/multiversal” shit is biased speculatory reaching and extrapolation.
No.139008711
>>139008683
>Almost all their physical, obvious “feats” are sub planetary. Superforms get hurt by boats in Heroes,
Okay, now you're just shitposting.
No.139008761
>>139008711
I literally listed many, many examples where this is the case, and yes the super fight at the end of Heroes has you fighting off Boats that Metal Sonic throws at you that knock out Super Sonic and that only Super Knuckles can break.
It’s really pathetic and babyish that you start throwing a tantrum and crying about shitposters anytime anyone says anything that you disagree with.
No.139008848
>>139008434
Her and Shard. You would not believe how fucking angry he got at people comparing Chaos Sonic and Shard.
No.139008885
>>139008683
You're taking the Rush Adventure thing out of context - he already had the Power of the Stars at that point, which is the literal power used to create and maintain all universes. The Egg Wizard blowing up the planet obviously wouldn't have just been a simply planet-wiping blast, especially when it's being powered by an energy source greater than any of the emeralds and should be orders of magnitude beyond Eggman's constellation-busting weapon in Battle and Emerl.

The other examples you cited are likewise case specific, so I agree that you are basically shitposting at this point. Unless you have a VERY good reason why Eggman's non-emerald powered superweapon is stronger than all of the emeralds (somehow) or why he'd even need the emeralds or stuff like the Power of the Stars if he can casually build shit like that in a day which can obliterate Super Forms.
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No.139008908
>>139008434
Probably, considering Sage is basically a rehash of Phage. Now the good guys need their own AI girl to act as Egg daughter's foil. Come on, Sega, stop hating fun for once.

Like, seriously, I cannot overstate how hard I would NUT if Nicole became a member of the games cast.
No.139008924
>>139008711
>shitposting
Actually that raises an interesting question, who would be the biggest shitposter in the Sonic universe? My ranking:
>Eggman N*ga, Black Doom: Undoubtedly manipulative, and both are in possession of an n-word pass
>Solaris: Anything that's part Mephiles has to be a legendary shitposter
>Metal Overlord: All the attitude of Sonic, finally allowed to speak
>Eggman: Boomer tier, even Tails regularly out-bants him
>Dark Gaia, Perfect Chaos, Biolizard: Only capable of reeeing
No.139008944
>>139008924
The End literally showed up in the most recent Twitter Takeover solely to roast Fadel then leave. So it. Probably closely followed by Finitevus and Scourge.
No.139009002
>>139008944
In that case Id put The End between N*ga and Solaris. All that time in cyberspace has to have increased its shitposting level dramatically!
No.139009010
>>139008885
>The Egg Wizard blowing up the planet obviously wouldn't have just been a simply planet-wiping blast
He literally calls it the “Planet-Buster-Laser”
It’s Planetary, and you’re being desperate. Eggman is inconsistent because all the games are inconsistent. Listing many other examples frequently, in fact regularly and constantly happening isn’t being case specitic either, it’s showing how regularly it shows up and how the series actually is outside of powerlevelz manchild cope. Doomsday Zone in classic literally requires super sonic needs to dodge small space rocks.
No.139009046
>>139008908
Having Nicole without Sally would be quite an hard shift, though.
No.139009095
>>139009002
Reminder that since Cyberspace is connected to literally all of Mobius/Earth, The End would have seen and known every situation going on and presumably saw whenever Tails shitposted at Eggman or whenever anyone used the Mobian equivalent of 4chan.
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No.139009138
>>139009046
Sure, but it might work if they'd just commit to making Amy into not-Sally like they obviously want to. ... But yeah, even then, it wouldn't be the same.
No.139009148
>>139001552
Thanks
No.139009198
>>139009095
Damn, we might need to move The End to the number one spot then!
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No.139009370
>>139009138
>>139008908
I could see her being tied to Tails rather than Amy, he even carries a computer around already and having him create a helpful AI that lives inside it would be easily justifiable after what happened in Frontiers.
It would be a fun way to give his tech stuff some personality.
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No.139009434
>>139001552
Two Imps in Still Water Chapter 2 Cover and Page 1
https://www.deviantart.com/silentguruart
It's more of the alternate universe version of Sonic Forces!
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No.139009448
>>139009434
Looks like a jackal town.
No.139009602
>>139009434
More like Two Twinks in Spring Heat amirite?
No.139009782
>>139009434
Oh boy!
No.139010242
>>139009602
Kek
No.139010359
Archie Ride update: I've uploaded all of the preboot to the mega, but I'm out of space so the reboot will be going in another one
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No.139010481
>>139010359
Ah, the good ol winRAR strategy.
No.139010515
>>139010452
Pesky is a treasure that keep giving.
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No.139010548
>>139001552
S.T.C Issue 21 Page 9
https://www.deviantart.com/okida
No.139010574
>>139010548
Now to just hope that denomination is recognised by Robotnik's GPS.
No.139010600
>>139010452
Kinda surprised Sally didn't get a holster for Nicole in Archie
>>139010481
I still can't believe it's ended up at over 25GB! Once I've finalized everything I'll put it up on the Internet Archive
>>139010548
B-but Shadow's supposed to be left-handed. Not canon!
No.139010638
>>139010548
>human feet and not cute fox paws
oh man....
No.139010671
>>139010638
Okida's a menace and I'm tired of pretending he's not!
No.139010708
>>139010548
I wonder if theyre going to point out how cosmo and receptionik look similar
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No.139011175
https://www.deviantart.com/blueartsillustration/art/Movie-night-alone-978755016
Wachowski Sonic's first date. They have no idea where he found out that pink hedgehog,but they are happy for him.
No.139011211
>>139011175
>tfw movie amy will have her last name be Wachowski if she marries him
No.139011215
>>139010548
Damn it, Morain - you've given up your one advantage!
No.139011227
>>139011211
Amy Wachowski does have a nice ring to it.
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No.139011243
>>139011215
I dunno, "nameless zone " seem to me like a setting for the Ulysses "nobody" trickery.
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No.139011270
>>139011248
Master of disguise.
No.139011332
https://youtu.be/i2MBnZU8Xeg?si=hQJuZzLEqgWUSbmH
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No.139011511
>>139008505
>Sonic X in Hilda
>Sonic first meets an odd Blue Haired Girl, who without introduction beats the shit out of him, hacksaws off all 4 of his limbs, and feeds him to a troll
>Rouge gets repeatedly, savagely raped by a little boy with Billy Batson eyes who knows where she lives, until eventually she falls in love with him from the repeated unconsented-to pleasure
>Knuckles gets shot, skinned and mounted on a wax dummy by a gun-toting woman in a red sweater, and his furry hide knitted into various tea-cosies
>Amy gets gangstalked by a posse of various Marra who then kidnap her, hook her on heroine and sell her into prostitution to pay off her sustance debt
No.139011623
>>139011511
I don't think we have watched the same Hilda show.
No.139011627
>>139011511
Do Hildafags really?
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No.139011696
>>139011623
I watched the SK dub wby?
No.139011785
>>139006682
Most things Ian says on his podcast are just his headcanons he makes up on the spot. Unless he's repeating something Sega directly tells him I take his takes with a whole shaker of salt.
No.139011804
>>139011332
I can't wait for those people to kill themselves
No.139011858
>>139002116
I love the white sketch lines, implying about the emerald's chaotic power
No.139011902
>>139011785
Right, but with Frontiers he was the writer. He’s saying what the intention of the game was, not what he interprets
No.139011930
>>139011902
Wasn't he only the localizer?
No.139012042
>>139011930
In this case it was the japanese that localised Ian’s script
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No.139012045
https://twitter.com/AKsi078_/status/1694652414358700074
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No.139012142
>>139012045
It's kind of funny how a simple change of eye color can create a wave of new fanart. Not that I am complaining a lot of them look good.
No.139012242
>>139012045
Its literally just super sonic but with blue eyes, jesus I hate this dumb as fuck fanbase.
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No.139012454
https://www.deviantart.com/howteyoarts/art/Double-the-Sally-978779501
When sally meet Sally.
No.139012862
>>139012242
>jesus I hate this dumb as fuck fanbase.
You and me both, seeing people foam at the mouth and the cancerous dbfags lapping this shit up is embarrassing.
Hopefully it's just a temp form because of the cyberaids shit.
No.139012974
>>139012042
source?
No.139013054
>>139012454
Two Sallys?! I-impossible! AIIIIEEEEEEEE!
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No.139013133
>>139013054
You will be excused, the one on the left is actually Erma the Ermine. It's easy to confuse the two.
No.139013174
>>139013119
>I get murdered by Sonic The Hedgehog
Um ok.....
No.139014047
>>139012454
>>139013054
This is ridiculous! Now there are two of them!
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No.139014139
https://www.deviantart.com/drakessj257/art/Sonic-goes-Hyper-Sonic-Comic-Page-1-978800340
read right to left
No.139014157 [Post deleted 14:19:06]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyxSQnTBrM8
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No.139014169
Obvious ref:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyxSQnTBrM8
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No.139014185
The chances it actually happens in the DLC?
No.139014190
>>139014139
>>139014169
>>139014185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I3a8omiYds
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No.139014220
https://www.deviantart.com/drakessj257/art/Sonic-the-Hedgehog-Freedom-Fighters-971630859
Same artist also has some cool FF fanart.
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No.139014236
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No.139014910
https://youtu.be/sgKK0YRQyMQ?si=TfbZLU5kXIIo-y8w
No.139015333
>>139013119
>Killed by Mighty the Armadillo
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No.139015570
That's like 16 pages. I'm actually jealous of that buffer size.
No.139015583
>>139013119
>I get killed by Wave
YAMEROOOOOOOOO
No.139015586
>>139015570
Dont wanna start shit, just curious, but how is this stuff legal with the patreon stuff when regarding sonic fan comics or art?
No.139015672
>>139015586
None of the rights holders care unless you're very egregious about it. Stuff like using the same name and looking too official might get C&D'd but that's very rare. For example, Justice League Unlimited was a porn game that got in trouble because it was making a lot of money and shared the same name as the show. DC told the artist to stop and the artist changed it to Something Unlimited and everything seems to be fine. But some rights holders are very petty. Sega doesn't give a fuck.
No.139015816
>>139015672
Also, most porn fall under the parody rule
>>139015586
I think that as long as you don't try to make commercial gain out of it it's okay.

All of those project are usually running at loss and Sega tend to see it as a way to maintain the brand's popularity.
No.139016640
>>139015586
Porn projects from my experience are actually safer than other fanworks for copyright because the corpos wouldn't dare to associate with porn
No.139016654
>>139015586
This is sega, they don't give a fuck.
Nintendo however....
No.139016712
>>139010548
Morian, you retard
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No.139016746
https://www.deviantart.com/davidnoahosborn/art/Lanolin-Getting-a-Crew-Cut-Request-978688896
In this case, you have to hand it to them, in this case, it at least make sense.
No.139016785
>>139016746
BRUH

I really want to know how this faggot got this fetish.
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No.139016796
>>139016746
>Requested by Hatsoonmiku.
No.139017069
>>139016746
IT KEEPS HAPPENING
No.139017728
>>139014220
squiggly
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No.139017751
>tails and charmy
Very rare Tails ship but it does come up from time to time.
No.139017800
>>139017751
I literally cant think of a single time those two have ever talked to each other
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No.139017828
>>139017800
>I literally cant think of a single time those two have ever talked to each other
No.139017847
>>139017828
I care. I legit can’t recall any instance of it happening
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No.139017858
>>139016746
Personally, I prefer the ones where Sonic has a mustache
>>139017751
Oh my, those thighs! Love seeing art of this ship, it's sadly pretty rare
No.139017933
>>139017847
>whining in then fanfic thread about fanfics
shiggy diggy
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No.139018029
>>139017751
Shame the artist seems to have deleted most of their Sonic art
No.139018150
>>139018029
>That Tails
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No.139018207
>>139018150
The chest floof alone!
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No.139018224
>>139018207
That's the last one of this ship I could find by them ;_;
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No.139018252
>>139018224
Mighty x Ray!
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No.139018282
>>139018252
It's a pretty interesting take on Mighty's design
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No.139018307
>>139018282
More older Tails!
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No.139018734
>be me
>randomly go on tw*tter
>find cute sonally piece
>oh nice
>randomly go through comments
>see for some reason some fag replies with sonic feet pics
>decide to check account out of curiousity
>turns out he replies to a TON of people with the same fucking Sonic feet pics to multiple accounts over and over
Holy fuck
No.139018764
>>139018734
Oh yeah, saw hat guy being talked about a day or tow ago. He use a screencap from Sonic Underground.
No.139018789
>>139018764
Like, just why would you even do that shit
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Not to be confused with the Game Gear game or the 3D Blast game for consoles.
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