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To start the next thread, I’m going to redo a favorite of mine. The art starts off rough but it gets really good after a while. Also, Sonic is an absolute ass but that’s the thing with a lot of Shadamy comics. And this comic is probably dead. It hasn’t updated in a long ass time. Anyway, this is Team Dark Amy!
Question: If you had to character assassinate a character you like, who would it be? You don’t have to absolutely embarrass or shit on them. Just make them an asshole.
Sonic and the Freedom Fighters Note: I’m warming up to the idea of alien races being based off of animals. Some already do but not all.
>>139860781 I haven't read this in forever. So Amy is already part of Team Dark. She has to win over everyone and deal with her old friends. It's not going to be easy for her.
>>139860781 >Question: If you had to character assassinate a character you like, who would it be? You don’t have to absolutely embarrass or shit on them. Just make them an asshole. Vector I suppose since he is honestly one of the few characters to manage to mostly avoid the character assassins, which is nice cause one of my faves but genuinely curious how you'd fuck up his character
>>139860781 >Question: If you had to character assassinate a character you like, who would it be? You don’t have to absolutely embarrass or shit on them. Just make them an asshole. As I was thinking of how to answer this I realized that all the characters I like have been character assassinated at some point already
>>139860820 >Rouge is black Blame the horrendous lighting fuckups in the gamecube and PC ports of SA2 >European Union flag That's GUN's actual flag >Amy as a protagonist Some of the best fancomics focus on characters that don't get to do much in canon (i.e., everyone except Sonic and Eggman)
>>139860875 That's right, Amy's kicking ass. Getting stronger. Let's just go with her not having super strength on her own. >>139860851 Or he could be part of the Dark Legion by choice.
>>139860875 I never got to far into Fleetway so not sure how they did his character, know in that version he gives Charmy shit but so did everyone in Fleetway to the glee of a friend of mine who hates the Bee
Oh boy, time for the only Sonic worse than Idol AU Sonic.
>>139860781 >Question: If you had to character assassinate a character you like, who would it be? You don’t have to absolutely embarrass or shit on them. Just make them an asshole. Maybe Ray. Not too much of an asshole, but definitely a snarky little shit behind the stutter.
>>139860864 ;_; >>139860880 Fun fact: Tamers has used this sound effect in his videos >>139860901 >Or he could be part of the Dark Legion by choice. Truu Farr! Cyborg Remington could be pretty handsome though
>>139860922 Very nice. Even got did the "punch each other at the same time thing." >>139860907 Yeah Charmy is annoying but the Chaotix shit on him so hard that Sonic is nicer to him than they are. One time he calls in the other bees to save his teammates and they tell them all to fuck off afterwards. Also, Charmy is paying for the Chaotix rent but they don't know it's him.
>>139860963 Shadow's pissed and the hammer comes out! >>139860932 >Oh boy, time for the only Sonic worse than Idol AU Sonic. But not as bad as Prank Wars Sonic.
>>139860984 Earned Shadow's approval. That's all three. >>139860936 >Truu Farr! Cyborg Remington could be pretty handsome though Lien-Da would be so happy.
>>139860963 funny enough actually getting the Chaotix's designs done for AU soon, got a few ideas for them since want to use them a ton as they're some of my fave characters. Also honestly I feel people rag on Charmy to much when he's a harmless character as oppose to actual bad characters who damage plots or other characters with their badness
>>139860932 >Idol AU Sonic I can fix him! >>139860932 Ray with Fleetway Sonic's banter would be cursed and awesome >>139860943 I'm legitimately mad! >>139860962 They should follow my lead and be irrationally upset she has to call them fortune cards instead of tarot cards >>139860984 >But not as bad as Prank Wars Sonic. Oh he gets what's coming to him, maybe even too much >>139861013 >Lien-Da would be so happy. They could even have matching leather outfits! and whips!
>>139861030 Omega's second appearance in this comic and he's once again best boy. How does he do it? >>139860943 Truly diabolical. >>139860950 Yes he is!
>>139861059 Now you know why Rouge doesn't steal as much to work for GUN. >>139861021 Charmy is either too immature or too mature. There's no middle ground for him. >>139861027 Blame Sonic.
>>139861082 SHOPPING! >>139861047 >They could even have matching leather outfits! and whips! Oh my! >>139861056 GUN is shady but instead of just being wary of them, Sonic hates them and Amy joining them is like betrayal.
>>139861109 Montage! >>139861080 He takes stuff too seriously when he gets mad. >>139861081 And this artist writes a perfectly normal and friendly Sonic outside of this story.
>>139861047 I honestly like the cards but she could use her hammer more, then again Amy is nothing to me so not an expert on how to take her character or moveset. Also forgot about PW Sonic, what made him bad?
>>139861127 Oh look, it's Cream! Why would she look at Amy like that? >>139861089 >He really is best boy! It's funny how a murderbot that understands friendship is so great.
>>139861059 Omega being friends with people is always great to see how he balances well meaning and blunt awkwardness with refrained violent homicidal tendancy's
>>139861109 >Oh my! You know it! >>139861127 Kinda odd that they'd have bulletproof clothing at the mall >>139861156 I wish she could spin around with her hammer, that was such a cool move >PW Sonic, what made him bad? He's gleefully evil and keeps torturing his friends >>139861159 >It's funny how a murderbot that understands friendship is so great. It's amazing more comics and cartoons don't include one
>>139861109 >tfw there's an actual in-series game where Rouge made Tails join GUN while Sonic was on vacation One day we will get that Chronicles sequel...One day...
>>139861226 >just as corrupted as eggman Look, I know GUN has done some shit but I don't remember them trying to take over the world or blowing up half the moon.
>>139860768 That's a bummer, some of the stuff I've been seeing is really fun. I guess it's just a natural development from Nicole's usual support role being translated into a game with combat mechanics.
>>139861221 oh yeah that would be fun, shame honestly Frontier's non Sonic characters aren't really suited for fighting Guardians. Also how did he torture them? cause light ribbing sure he does that but full on bullying them feels way off his character
>>139861251 Well, I wonder what everyone has to say now... >>139861187 It's really great when he manages to be protective of his friends and violent about it.
>>139861251 I mean, they did straight up shoot a kid plus scapegoated Sonic when they had to of known it was actually Shadow. Honestly I kinda wish they doubled down on G.U.N being a borderline evil and corrupt organization as opposed to the turnaround at Shadow the Hedgehog
>>139861323 ENTER EGGMAN The man with the master plan and a giant robot powered by a Phantom Ruby. >>139861272 That'd be an interesting list. Only the ones that stick out of course.
>>139861370 Amy's hammer got an upgrade! >>139861304 No matter how much money she has, she can't help herself. >>139861316 The problem is that Sonic aims his resentment at Amy as well.
>>139861526 Yeah, he's easily the worst Sonic that isn't a murderer. I really should re-storytime it now that there's more pages out >>139861556 >See, IDW Sonic? That's what you do when Eggman tries to escape. Ooooh, shots fired!
>>139861567 I didn't see much of Cream in IDW except the Gemerl stuff and the warp topaz story where they remembered Cream is Blaze's actual best friend
>>139861596 apparently since higher-ups command Cream is "a citizen" and not "one of the heroes", so now she's only doing stuff like going to Sonic-fan-camp with the steven universe kid and baking a cake at home with the skunks. Which is more Sega's fault for never doing anything interesting with Cream
>>139861082 >Wanna serve your country? >See Mobius? >Slap up some Egg Goons? >Join G.U.N. Today! >Get your education, skills to help out in the world and benefits out the ass!! Including Dental!! >Don't believe us? Why here's our fine & friendly robot, Omega to tell you more! >Omega: JOIN OR YOU'RE A PUSSY. ALSO FUCK EGGMAN. >Uh, yeah! So enlist today!!
>>139861666 I agree, I just mean they should've retooled her a bit later like they did Amy when they realised she's boring There was rumors she was meant to be aged-up to a teen girl in Riders, which is why her model is suddenly as tall as Amy and she had a rad new outfit with a trendy see-thru visor and junk
>>139861844 And sadly that's it. The artist has since drawn various other stuff, not that much but it's been a while since this came out. Like a year at least. But I'll post a few more comics before stopping.
>>139861713 I heard that rumor too. And it's why her playable model is taller and lankier and actually has a small chest, but her cg and uekewa model is still tiny chubby girl cream I wonder if they would've made her the aloof "cool" tomboy to Amy's girly girl once she was older
>>139861272 Shoggothnic would clearly be beyond the tier list rankings in terms of Best Boy levels. Idol, Team Dark Amy, and Prank Wars, all go down in Shit tier.
>>139861844 holy shit the ooc with Sonic is astounding, like despite being an Eggman robot I don't think he's ever given shit to Omega and seemed to be get on really well with Rouge, hell he never held Shadow's actions over him except in that one IDW issue with the Amnesia argument.
>>139861893 honestly the fact Cream will never age up and develop as a character is kind of a shame, like we're never gonna see a Sonic the Next Generation type deal
>>139861109 >GUN is shady They were straight up the bad guys in SA2. They constantly went behind the President’s back, framed Sonic for Shadow’s crimes, and covered up the Ark incident to save their asses. Reminder that they killed almost everyone on board. Killing Maria wasn’t an accident, but an order.
>>139861895 Knuckles, Omega and Rouge are fucking amazing in this. Knuckles and Rouge especially, given how determined they are to keep Amy from spiraling whilst everyone else competes for the biggest asshole award.
>>139861316 That turnaround only happened because of Tower actively working to restructure the organization into something that wasn't horrifically corrupt. And that literally only occurred because he found out that Shadow wasn't behind the ARK massacre, but GUN itself - prior to that, he was all in on the kool-aid of killing Shadow without asking any other questions.
>Julian and Snively were part of a space expedition from about 2200 (or thereabouts). Julian attempted a takeover of the colony, but his technology got out of control and he wound up destroying everything, narrowly escaping with his (and Snively's) lives. Meanwhile, back on Earth, a nuclear holocaust had destroyed human life as we knew it - and the animals who survived mutated into sentient beings and built the society which you see in the form of Mobius. Einstein's ideas of the passage of time during faster-than-light space travel kick in and thousands of years have passed by the time Julian and Snively returned to find this "Animal" world. Well, Julian's thought was that in the land of the four-pawed critters, the two-handed man is king and so he set about to take over - as outlined in Blast to the Past. Ben Hurst
>>139862615 Dude was traumatized. He was on the ARK during the massacre and lost his best friend (Maria) along with his family to Shadow (at least that's what GUN told him). He's spent his entire life trying to keep others safe so when he hears Shadow's escaped, he'll do anything to prevent another massacre. I know not many played StH, but Tower actually teams up with Sonic and pilots a mech to fight Shadow if you take the evil route. He's actually willing to put his life on the line to stop Shadow
>>139861056 It's less that and more that he's not in possession of all the facts and what facts he IS in possession of make Team Dark look suspect as all hell. It's probably setting up a character arc where either Sonic comes to see Team Dark as worthy of trust or Shdaow gets framed for Murder (Probably by Infinite) and it turns into a whole shitshow.
>>139861790 Eggman was explicitly attacking the city to get Sonic's attention, so why would he be distracting Sonic with Metal? Conversely, if the plan was to distract Sonic while Metal was out doing something; why have Metal come to him? Something's fucky here.
>>139865146 Especially when they showed Sally is Guinevere and Shadow was just adopting the name of the true Skunk-knight Lancelot who conquers Sally in the royal bed
>>139865314 Maybe the Sonic native to that world is the actual King Arthur and due to being his dimensional doppelgänger, Sonic gets to wield Excalibur with no issues.
>>139865585 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7ibo2sTYGs he got abducted by ufos and now they are making sonic androids using his genetic material as a base, the king arthur sonic faces is a men in black agent who memory wiped all the members of the castle and replaced their memory of sonic with himself in order to pass himself off as arthur and take over the realm, meanwhile the real arthur (sonic) is getting the matrix treatment and is currently locked away in a cryo pod inside of a spaceship called the ark of the covenant where the atlanteans are making hedgehog pig hybrid species to replace the current populace of mobius, or something
>>139865314 The real King Arthur never died, he went to another world to await the time Briton would need him again. Who's to say he didn't end up in modern times battling Eggman? Also, fun fact: Merlina's Maria's equivalent. Her grandfather's a great and powerful figure, she lives in a fantastical place, and will do anything to preserve her world. It's not been made explicit, but I'm 100% convinced Black Knight was Maekawa's way of giving closure to the real ultimate lifeform (i.e., Sonic) and Maria plotline. >>139865724 Deepest lore!
>>139867868 She died as she lived, surrounded by idiots >>139868077 Cybering with Sonic! >>139868337 Having Enerjak fight all of the various deity would've been so cool >>139868356 Punished Gallagher, a man denied his puns
>>139860781 Nectar: The World Before Page 60 https://www.deviantart.com/icys Calling it now, he's going to pussy out and Shadow will arrive in time (hehe) to push himself into the capsule.
>>139872173 Slutnic's such a tease. If anyone's interested in the official stance, it's blobfeet but with toe bones, toe beans and paw pads. We actually see toe bones in S3&K, SegaSonic, and Unleashed when the characters get electrocuted
>>139872317 Just give us 4 toes and claws Sega! >>139872344 It's funny because SoJ's gone to considerable lengths to never release any official barefoot art of Sonic, but then the movie has an entire scene where Robotnik reconstructs a 3d model of Sonic's foot. You just know SoJ weren't happy about that >>139872404 lmao >>139872421 Good luck!
>>139872344 >>139872486 He actually has pads, going by that one scene where we see them poking out of his socks, so they probably aren't as horrifying as literal human feet.
>>139872574 No he doesn't. I wholesale reject this.
You know what else I wholesale reject? The idea that Tails is STILL an insecure coward despite soloing an army of bird nazis. Say what you will about Frontiers, but at least it's trying to unfuck him. Hell, say what yo will about IDW, but it's REALLY trying to unfuck him.
Decided to get myself upset and read Penders' bio on my husbando
>FIRST APPEARANCE (Original): KNUCKLES THE ECHIDNA #4 Correct >FULL NAME: Remington It's Remington of the House of Dimitri you fucking hack >RANK: Chief Constable, Echyd’nya Sigh >BORN: 125 LSD (Local Solar Date) / Rev 3217 (listed – actual birthdate unknown) Dumb, just give his age like a normal person. Also, he's 27 >EYES: Green They're blue you fucking pleb >HAIR: Black Correct, but his fur is brown >HEIGHT: 82 Marks >WEIGHT: 8.3 Stone >SPECIES: Echyd’nya Dumb. Just give measurements regular people use >EDUCATION: Graduated first in his class from Couldn't even finish the sentence huh? >LOCATION: Home domicile classified. lmao >KNOWN FAMILY: Carmok (adoptive father – deceased), Cara-Le (adoptive mother), Wrong! Eli-Za and Kragok are his parents >KNOWN COLLEAGUES: Geoffrey St. John I AM LIVID >KNOWN AFFILIATIONS: E.S.T. (Echyd’nya Security Taskforce) lmao
>>139872661 Yeah, and in the supposedly canon comics he had a bunch of birds do the work for him >it's trying to unfuck him You mean the same game that still has him as a shitty cheerleader, even in the new alternate ending? Jack shit is being fixed, especially with a shitty retread full of empty promises
>>139872729 I said it was TRYING, not necessarily succeeding. Flynn is only able to work with what Sega allows, and they are clearly insistent on everyone sucking Sonic's dick at all times.
>>139872706 cont. >HISTORY: Remington was discovered having been abandoned as an infant by a young couple, Carmok and his betrothed of several cycles, Cara-Le. After all efforts to establish who Remington’s actual parents were failed, the couple applied to the State Ministry to raise the infant as their own. They were granted parental status after a rigorous testing period along with a successful evaluation of how they raised their first born son, Kyron. Based on medical evaluation, Remington was determined to be no more than a quarter cycle in age at the time of his adoption. So couples need to undergo rigorous testing to adopt, but Locke can just chuck his kid in the microwave? Also, lmao at him not being able to use Remington's actual parents >>139872774 I'm still angry! >>139872795 Yeah, you can read it here: https://kenpenders.com/remington/
>>139872810 Well, IMO. It’s a very bad attempt of trying. It’s really sad how his friends, even with being playable, will be nothing more than cheerleaders.
>>139872706 >>139872823 You know what really pisses me off? Penders will write all these bio shit and lore yet still hasn’t released his comic. A comic that still has released for over a FUCKING DECADE. He decided to do all that drama and got what he wanted. Yet he has still done jack shit. That’s what offends me and gives me pain other fans don’t understand or feel. It was all for fucking nothing and he can’t even give me the satisfaction of at least making fun of his shitty comic. Fuck penders
>BORN: 007 LSD (Local Solar Date) Shaken not stirred! >SPECIES: Mephitidae I.e., the family of mammals comprising skunks and stink badgers, noted for the great development of their anal scent glands >ABILITIES: Great tactician and problem solver, quick reflexes, mastered armed and unarmed combat, especially proficient with a crossbow or a high-powered Marauder, capable of jury-rigging the most innocuous object into a deadly weapon, knows more than a dozen different languages spoken on Mobius as a result of numerous undercover assignments, expert pilot along with similar level skills as a skydiver, underwater demolition diver and land vehicle operator, photographic memory, master of disguises TLDR: He's the best at everything >NUMBER OF CONFIRMED KILLS: Classified >FEMALE RELATIONSHIPS: Princess Acorn, Hershey, known to have romantic dalliances during many of his missions with most ending in a tragic manner >ALTERNATE TIMELINE EXPERIENCES: Classified Ultra-Top Secret lmao
>>139872661 >but it's REALLY trying to unfuck him. I know it was way more understandable in that instance but IDW had him repeat the exact same cowering in the final battle of Metal Virus.
>>139873017 It's so frustrating. At least let us tear your shitty comic apart you hack! >>139873045 She will once I turn her into a twink! >>139873076 And that's why I love seeing how little engagement he gets on twitter. Almost all of his replies are pictures of Donkey Kong (seriously). Dude doesn't even have any genuine fans anymore
>>139873156 The original and the best! >>139873197 I'm actually not sure if he knew it was Donkey Kong specifically, he only referred to him as "that monkey" >>139873367 Here's one I prepared earlier! >>139873588 And yet people still think Sonic's cooler, what plebs! >>139873625 Wow, that's really well done! >>139874109 He's got important views and wants you to know them!
>>139862196 The Adventure games take a lot of influence from Mexico and Central America. Emerald Coast itself was based on Cancun, Mexico. Pic related’s the actual place.
>>139862196 that's never been said. She's probably based off a Ghost Bat since they: have White fur but dark skin around the wings have longer ears amongst Bats hunt by ambush and echolocate (Honduran White Bats do not echolocate and only eat fruit) Have variants without any snub-nose
How in the fuck is rouge like a latina bitch?! My family is full of them, so I don’t fucking get what people are saying by that comparison. Christ I’m mad by that shit.
>>139877158 We do about three issues a thread, and the next storytime will be in this thread at 7pm EST. We've got almost 600 issues to get through so we'll be here a while!
>>139878248 I don't run things, but we're doing an expanded ride with Megaman and all the various side stories in chronological order >>139878437 Shots fired! >>139878590 Would've been funny to have Sonic go back in time and interact with them
>>139879066 Actually, let's talk about that. In-universe, Sonic hails from Christmas Island, which in the real world is an Australian territory in the Indian Ocean, and mostly populated by Asian Australians of Chinese, Malay, and Indian descent.
>>139879691 She’s not, she’s an original character who was made for the manga and based off japanese characters like Sailor Moon and japanese trends like the frilly-dress-white-diaper look she had until Idw
Blaze is no specific earth nationality. Her design and empire have elements of India, Japan, China, Europe, Native Americans, the Middle East and Australia
>>139879745 >she’s an original character who was made for the manga She was made for the games, but appeared in the manga first for synergy reasons. Madonna would've functioned exactly as Amy did in Sonic CD. In fact, CD reused many of the scrapped concepts for the original Sonic 1. Amy was their retry at the love interest for the main hero and since they can't go Jessica Rabbit, they chose to make Minnie Mouse. The Sailor Moon shit was them drawing what they knew because they're Japanese. Amy was also supposed to be a HS cheerleader during development for CD. Even then, she still had her cutesy design.
>>139879764 Why eurasian? Anon just showed you he’s between Australian and Chinese. That’s pretty fucking far from Europe. Like opposite end of the planet far.
>>139879917 You don't know what true autism looks like until you see a certain someone thinks he has eletrcity powers unironically and beats his grandpa over a couch
>>139879830 Spagonia is Sonic's Italy. Soleanna is a mixture of Venice and New York City that's surrounded by ancient ruins of different civilizations.
>MUUUUUUUH AAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUTIIIIIIIISMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!! Seriously, can this buzzword fuck off forever? It got intolerably obnoxious well over a decade ago.
>>139880052 >Soleanna is a mixture of Venice and New York City that's surrounded by ancient ruins of different civilizations. ... So, Italian then.
>>139880086 It has to be the urban areas where the majority of the population lives. It doesn't make any sense otherwise. Soleanna's still supposed to be a proper country after all.
>>139879823 Anon, we just covered this in the comic. Sonic's a chili-dog and Tails is fries >>139880585 Nooooo! I'm claiming ??? then, fingers crossed it's a guy! Having Eggman be pretty well established before his takeover is a bit more realistic than him taking over everything in a single night
>>139879094 You've been reading multiple instances of psychonic kino and still feel the need to ask this question? Aztec blood runs through his veins, obviously.
>>139879293 In all seriousness Sonic is very ambiguous, in contrast with his friends which tend to have more racially-coded(???) design/characterization elements. He's the only character in the series that IMO works as any ethnicity/race in terms of humanizations. You could show me a white guy or a black guy with blue hair and red shoes and it wouldn't look weird to me.
Apprently this is a thing that will be released soon. Also, where are all the Archie Sonic fan conventions, archiebros? The brits have beaten us in that department.
>>139880379 >>139880513 I wanna Rotey to lock his big fat snout, shaped that of a strong jaw, onto my small lips, humming so loud to ascertain his place as a big dom. Clutching nice and good his big chest into my noodlin' frail cutesy mobian.
>>139882002 ??? Never said I did I'm saying if your gonna do a role reversal do it properly. This is literally just Sonic with Blaze personality instead of Sonic if he was royalty personality Think of that comic as a skinswap basically
>>139860781 Archie Sonic #14-16 Another collection of adventures for the Freedom Fighters! Get ready for some interesting developments and firsts! Also, Penders starts writing more and more stories. And don’t worry, we’ll hop to a new thread before it’s too late!
Question: Sega mandates that you retcon in something. How do you do it? Come up with an elaborate explanation or just do it and not bother explaining it?
Sonic and the Freedom Fighters Note: Ian Flynn, the main writer for Archie Sonic, said something about Sally and Nicole possibly being a couple after the reboot. It never happened though. Since romance involving Sonic characters not originating from the Archie comics was prohibited by Sega, that meant Sonic and Sally couldn’t be a couple anymore. So why not pair your waifu with her really good friend? I have no intention of breaking up Sonic and Sally (they can still have fights) but that doesn’t mean Sally wouldn’t raise an eyebrow at the same girls Sonic might glance at.
>>139882157 >Question: Sega mandates that you retcon in something. Rouge in Classic. She's actually met Knuckles before and they've had a few encounters here and there before.
>How do you do it? Come up with an elaborate explanation or just do it and not bother explaining it? Make it a series of side stories.
>>139881987 A certain walrus appreciator >>139882157 >Question Definitely the elaborate route. the Sonic Adventure adaption was mental, but having to write around everything gave it a certain charm >Sonic and the Freedom Fighters Note Everyone's bisluts confirmed! >>139882182 Two pages in and Sonic's already getting tentacled
>>139882157 >Sonic and the Freedom Fighters Note: Ian Flynn, the main writer for Archie Sonic, said something about Sally and Nicole possibly being a couple after the reboot. It never happened though. Since romance involving Sonic characters not originating from the Archie comics was prohibited by Sega, that meant Sonic and Sally couldn’t be a couple anymore. So why not pair your waifu with her really good friend? I have no intention of breaking up Sonic and Sally (they can still have fights) but that doesn’t mean Sally wouldn’t raise an eyebrow at the same girls Sonic might glance at. So basically, your take on Sally is bi and would totally get that holo-lynx pussy if she didn't already have a steady partner. Got it.
>>139882157 >Question: Sega mandates that you retcon in something. How do you do it? Come up with an elaborate explanation or just do it and not bother explaining it? I retcon in that Maddie and Tom were always the parents of Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles and that Knuckles isn't actually trapped guarding the emerald forever. And I'd definitely explain it enough that they couldn't easily retcon it away again.
>Sonic and the Freedom Fighters Note: Ian Flynn, the main writer for Archie Sonic, said something about Sally and Nicole possibly being a couple after the reboot. It never happened though. Since romance involving Sonic characters not originating from the Archie comics was prohibited by Sega, that meant Sonic and Sally couldn’t be a couple anymore. So why not pair your waifu with her really good friend? I have no intention of breaking up Sonic and Sally (they can still have fights) but that doesn’t mean Sally wouldn’t raise an eyebrow at the same girls Sonic might glance at. The only Nicole ship I approve of is her and Shard, so I never really cared about Sallycole.
>>139882157 >S&FF Note Well she is royalty and she may want to sow her royal oats. Though the idea of Sonic & Sally agree they would probably fuck Rouge into next week sounds hilarious.
>>139882304 someone for Sonic and Sally to babysit and protect because he's uwu helpless and they're the responsible big sisters/brothers looking after the stupid baby Get used to it Game Tails has been steadily regressing to this state.
>>139882435 Note for zoomers: This comic was made before cellphones and the internet were mainstream, so even though Robotnik's minion has now located their secret hideout he has no way to contact the good doctor and relay this information.
>>139882593 Oh Archie, you got us good! I guess Tails is never cut out being smart. He'll just have to settle for average intelligence for the rest of his life.
>>139882157 >Question: Sega mandates that you retcon in something. How do you do it? Come up with an elaborate explanation or just do it and not bother explaining it? I'd retcon Longclaw into the games as Sonic's bird mum just cause I actually really like that dynamic/her character and you could have some fun fleshing out how other people viewed the Echdina's...or I'd retcon in Rouge getting a sexy hypno scene I dunno
>>139882157 >Sega mandates that you retcon in something. How do you do it? Come up with an elaborate explanation or just do it and not bother explaining it? You know what? I retcon the whole "Sonic's not allowed to express heavy emotion". I just make it so Sonic was emotionally repressing and now it's all pouring out.
There's probably other stuff I'm forgetting that deserves a retcon more, but I just wanna piss off the people obsessed with that "SONIC MUST NEVER CRY REEEEEEEEEEEEEE" mentality
>>139882621 Of all the "modern" characters, Rouge most easily fits into the classic era. Her concept and personality just work in pretty much any tone.
>>139882684 Don't think you can get away with that, because it would be giving Sonic an actual backstory, which is forbidden.
>>139882157 >Q Mandates are a bit of an abstract thing, but introducing characters from the classic continuity into the modern one, specially in the comics, would be nice.
>note Sally and Nicole as a romantic pairing is absolutely disgusting. Literally hollowing out and rewriting two characters for the sake of a fetish.
>>139882616 it's just natural. People who serve and act nice to the asshole become an asshole right back at them as soon as they're charge. Starscream and Megatron, Tony Montana and Frank Lopez, GIR and Zim...er...Meatwad and Master Shake?
>>139882838 Robotnik plays with dolls and is really good at arts and crafts! >>139882832 Front page! >>139882839 Who needs a girlfriend when you have Rotor's greenhouse?
>>139882345 funny enough I've sorta had that idea to for my own stuff, though can you blame them as Rouge is super fine, she'd be super down for either or both of them at once
>>139883021 Fuckin'... That's at least twice now that the heroes have inexplicably let the bastard go. Again, I guess #200 has some unfortunate precedent. Stop doing that!
>>139883057 >character who has never lusted over vagoo actually lusts over vagoo fuck you and fuck retcons >also you must hate gays fuck your projection
>>139883057 The major reason on why I dislike it is because it turns a friendship that borders on sisterhood and that was much better developed than even the one shared between Sonic and Tails into something it never was. Specially in a series where most main characters barely even talk to each other. Fetishists don't care about the actual characters.
>>139883203 Never said bi people don't exist. But if you're going to gaslight me into thinking that Sally has ever romantically loved nicole before the retcon then you can go fuck yourself.
>>139883207 Yeah, that insult was unwarranted. This is why Antoine is so inoffensive in Archie. They toned him way down from SatAM, so he never does anything all that pompous and shitty. As such, Sonic comes across as a bit of a bully.
>>139883196 Cream and Vanilla both feel an inexplicable urge to exsanguinate an entire village, build a demonic castle, then wage war on Mobius and they know exactly why.
>>139883141 >He just doesn't know when to stay dead. I still can't believe Robotnik threw him in th e trash compactor in that issue with the Spawnmower >>139883278 I'm sure there's a seatbelt PSA in there somewhere
>>139882992 nice to see Sally being able to fist fight was always there, actually liked that she could throw hands. Shame she got sidelined later on thanks to her shit family being introduced
>>139883274 he was an asshole in that story. Thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread and pawns his chores off on Tails because he doesn't care. But that's just general being a jackass than anything malicious like later.
>>139883277 In the reboot there was something developing between her and Nicole. i hope you're not trying to compare anything to the preboot because they are supposed to be entirely different universes.
>>139883367 it's not bait just because you don't like it sonallyshitter. Bisexual love is natural and fine, Nicole just suited her better as a partner.
>>139883343 That's FANTASTIC Sonic but you still have to stop Robotnik! >>139883296 >sonic: hey antoine, yo mama's so fat-- >antoine: my mother is dead >sonic: that's not how it goes!
>>139883401 Boy, it sure would've been nice if Sonic remembered what these magic stones did. >>139883325 You can get away with any insult if you have a British accent.
>>139883469 Sonic's got one last chance at this! >>139883434 She's also been giving him looks from time to time. Girl is thirsty and staked her claim on the water fountain nobody wants.
>>139883325 The problem with Archie Sonic's insults is that everyone just takes them. Fleetway Sonic at least have some characters saying "Wow, you're a dick, dude." when it does it at inappropriate moments.
>>139883341 to be honest it doesn't seem that bad, it feels like Tails fans have a massive chip on their shoulder on anything Sonic does with Tails being perceived as some great crime to him or something, like I won't act like due to bad writing that Pender's hurts their friendship a bit but people act like Sonic murdered Tails parents then fucked every girl he had a crush on
>>139883563 That's what I mean, he's just generally being a jackass in early archie. I don't mean he's being awful here, he's just kind of a dick.
Later Sonic's just a fucking piece of shit though. Throwing his parents in jail or fucking any girl Tails loves or throwing hands with Tails make him the kind of guy who deserves to be fed every single on of his teeth.
>>139883593 I like Rotor, but it's kinda sad to see Tails getting sidelined as the designated tech person. Then again, he's gonna sidelined pretty hard as well once Nicole shows up.
>>139883563 >>139883620 I forgot where I read it, but I once saw someone mention that the intent of the issues that cover the rocky friendship the two have might have been to highlight that, while Sonic didn't intend to hurt Tails with the things he said and did, he hurt him regardless, because what Tails needed during his childhood were loving parents, not just an older brother that, despite loving him, just didn't want to/couldn't provide that warmth and compassion.
>>139883620 ohhh your that guy, dude I was literally making a joke about you and how you are always crying over Tails and how you think Sonic is always an asshole to him, they wouldn't be friends if that was the case or the fact they've both saved each others lives countless times
>>139883709 I would've acted nicer to Tails and I barely know him. I don't think Sonic gets to call himself his "brother", he was just a narcissistic person who knew Tails would be hurt and didn't care becaus of how selfish and spoiled Sonic always is
>>139883709 Honestly I agree that it was poorly handled but Tails fans have such a victim complex about the whole thing when it poorly reflected and mishandled both their characters but they act like Sonic is some evil mastermind out to ruin his lil brothers life
>>139883903 maybe the humans mutating/hiding away caused a culture shift where certain older words fell out of use because historical texts were lost. Like how future stories have people using weird slang, some words fall out of practice the more ancient their roots are. Or something.
The dynamic of the older brother that shits on the little one only really works (in terms of not coming across as abusive) when there's another person in the dynamic, usually the parents/guardians or another older sibling, whom the younger brother can go up to complain, or that wrangles the older brother to shut the fuck up and play nice.
It's why most other continuities have their dynamics be Sonic essentially filling in the role of Tails' surrogate father (in terms of emotional support). And it's why most lazy parodies default to making the dynamic abusive.
>>139883931 usually I try not to respond to shitposters, but my point is Tails shouldn't have gotten over it. He should've had some spine and found a better friend who isn't a spoiled little narcissist manchild like Sonic is, who will inevitably fuck him over again because he did it the first time.
>>139883846 Tails was justified in being angry, though? Like, say what you will about how the comics handled that plot point, but the point of the whole thing was that Sonic needed to apologize to Tails eventually.
Also, reread my post. I never implied Sonic went out of his way to make Tails' life shit, he was just emotionally unavailable, and was an idiot that thought it was appropiate to banter with a child that still didn't have the skills neccessary to banter back/handle the heat.
>>139883977 Did Sonic fuck him over again after that? No? Then get over it dude, Sonic apologised then stopped being bad to him when the writers remembered how they were supposed to be, gods sake
>>139884109 Sonic didn't do it again because there wasn't another opportunity. Sonic didn't change at all, he's still the same spoiled coddled narcissistic manbaby he is as before. Sonic saying "awwww sowwy" doesn't make up for doing it in the first place or fighting him in the first place. If I say an 18 year old punching a 10 year old in the first place they could say sorry to my boot in their fat faggy face. Sonic was a piece of shit, there was nothing to "get over", Tails should've fucked Sally in front of the blue cuck.
>>139884064 Fair enough but it's just you have people act like Sonic did all the worst shit to Tails and ignore everytime he has saved his life or fought by his side or supported him like in the Sonic Tournament arc in the reboot. But again I get a bit heated over this topic so I'll at least say that Sonic and Tails relationship got damaged by bad writing but at least got turned around before it could get handled worse
>>139884180 No dude it's totally ok for Tails to fuck Sally if he just says sorry later and doesn't fuck her a 2nd time Sonicfags are just delusional sometimes god
>>139884213 Sonic rubbing his head and giving him a noogie isn't turning jackshit around, it's Tails being more nice to Sonic than Sonic deserves. Tails can find someone who doesn't call him his "worshipper" or fucks the girl he loves to say something generically nice to him in a tournament if he needs to, Sonic can go fuck himself if he wants to take Tails' trust for granted like he did. >>139884256 t.Sonic self-inserter crying about muh Sonally every thread I'm glad she became a lesbian now holy shit
I never really caught up Sonic as over the line ever over anybody personally, but I always hoped for some more illustrating stories over Rotor's friendship with Sonic, not to mention the apparent implying that either were considerably best friends, just like Tails. Cool coincidence, on top of it.
>>139884537 You aren't a tailsfan so I don't particularly care Especially not when you self-insert as Sonic so hard you want Tails go back to sucking Sonic's tiny microdick off because you're that insecure about a fictional character rightfully being angry at your fictional self-insert for being a narcissistic, selfish and spoiled manbaby who frankly did not deserve Tails' respect because at his core he's a shit person and a bad excuse for a friend
