Sonic: Worlds Unite Battles #1, Sonic #274 (WU #7), Mega Man #51 (WU #8), and Sonic Universe #78 (WU #9) Guess who spent all day helping his dad put together a bed and had no time to refresh their memory on today’s issues? This conductor!
Question: That dastardly Kaminski failed in getting ALL the Sega and Capcom characters for this event. He could only secure one other Sega or Capcom franchise to join Sonic and Mega Man. Which one?
>>142538625 >Question: That dastardly Kaminski failed in getting ALL the Sega and Capcom characters for this event. He could only secure one other Sega or Capcom franchise to join Sonic and Mega Man. Which one? For Sega, while my heart wants either Space Channel 5 or Skies of Arcadia, but logic tells me it really should be NiGHTS given it's something of a sister series to Sonic.
Capcom is trickier. Mega Man doesn't really have a fellow company IP that it has a close relationship with. I guess I'd go with Viewtiful Joe, due to thematic and artstyle similarities.
>>142538711 >>142538730 >"Wah, why do they like Sonic? He's only protecting them from threats and asking nothing in return!" GOD these guys are insufferable. Even fucking Nagus understands the concept of public relations.
>>142538625 >Question: That dastardly Kaminski failed in getting ALL the Sega and Capcom characters for this event. He could only secure one other Sega or Capcom franchise to join Sonic and Mega Man. Which one?
>>142538768 Wait, seriously? This is how Sonic loses in the Sega mandates era of the comic? I’m shocked they let this fly. Dude can’t even take a loss when he’s crippled now.
>>142538625 >Question Jet Set Radio, but only because I want to see Air Gear, but with Mobians >>142538711 Human women are the real source of Sonic's power
>>142538879 I ask the same thing about that duck, Bean, and his constant, "Ooh, shiny!" Reminds me of girls on the internet back in the early 2000s with "lol random" humor.
>>142538780 >>142538940 I'm going to be very mean for a second. This event reminds me of Heroes in Crisis. Just like the Sanctuary records, these silly little side stories that have fuck all to do with the main plot, these should've been the primary content. Like, nobody gives a shit about Sigma yet again pulling his tired ass shtick. Please give me an event that's just the casts hanging out.
>>142538976 I'm sorry, but I will always laugh at this shit. Nuclear cores and power plants are NOT fucking atomic bombs, it's impossible for them to explode no matter what is done to them.
>>142538967 >You mean the shit from the 90s was still canon to what was going on in the 2000s? Well not all of it, we did have a reboot that more or less wiped everything out while keeping the same cast.
>>142539064 >>142539051 At least in the preboot, Archie Knuckles is a pretty smart guy if not naive and easily angered. Even in the reboot he's not a dummy.
>>142539023 Its honestly insane that out of all stories this is the one that addresses that Blues has some real conflict avoidance problems. >he runs away from Light because he assume Light will change him with no say >runs away from Tempo and Lalinde when confronted with the idea that Light never wanted to replace him >runs away from Rock because he feels he's unworthy of a family after all he's done
>>142539105 >>142539091 Yeah. He just doesn't want to listen and everyone that tries to talk sense into him is too nice. Knuckles is a great guy to beat some sense into him.
>>142539086 Not to make wild assumptions, but I always got the feeling like Flynn dislikes the idea of Knuckles being a drooling moron. The character makes mistakes that stem from more reasonable flaws. Total Eclipse is a good example of that.
>>142539124 Spaz whole deal is that he's damn near perfect at mimicking artstyles but his 2d imitation of that modern Uwekawa Sonic art starts to show some cracks if you stare hard enough
>>142539154 Oh, that Snake Man! >>142539128 Gotta give Penders credit for having Knuckles be an intellectual that reads books and was taught to think things through. Ian continued that. Mega Drive being the exception.
>>142539154 I like how even Shadow Man's noticing that the robots from classic Mega Man practically seem to have free will with the way that they're written.
>>142539051 Yeah, Knuckles has always had a strong sense of duty so someone having a misplaced sense of duty would be something he couldn't stand >>142539136 Axl's back! >Would Regina laugh or be jealous she's not part of this and nonexistent? I miss her so much ;_;
>>142539120 You WILL love these bland, ill-defined and poorly designed villains, dammit! What's that? No, stop asking us for a Chao Garden. The guy who programmed it left, and we are literally too incompetent to make one ourselves. Shut up and buy our shit games.
>>142539136 So they established earlier that when the Six did this to Sigma part of the reason he could still function was because he's a reploid, a thinking robot. So that explains why the reploids can at least talk while controlled, but whats the Robot Masters excuse, shouldn't they be inferior?
>>142539266 Also more spotlight for Xander Payne! The Freedom Fighters are the least of this crossover’s problems. They barely appear at all. Retarded tripfag.
>>142539264 >literally just Interpol Huh. I'm honestly surprised they're allowed to reference the real life organization like that. Then again, Interpol is notoriously fuck all like how it's often portrayed in fiction.
>>142539314 >robot masters and reploids in a league of their own
Reploids maybe but you were fighting a literal army of Robot Master in the last crossover and the only real problem was that the ones you killed would just get reprinted
>>142539324 Is she though? Street Fighter isn't quite as whacky as some of the featured IPs in this event, but that universe still has some bullshit in it.
>>142538967 Archie Sonic holds the title of the longest running comic book adaptation of a videogame, over 200+ issues telling one continuous story UNTIL the reboot of the first crossover and issue 252.
>>142539350 Wily and Eggman are so odd in this crossover. They’re so bland and to the point. There’s no presentation. The first crossover was better because they were having evil fun.
>>142539391 >Cream or Roll. Who's cuter? Trick question, it's Rock. He's absolutely adorable trying to apologize for almost killing Sonic and his friends!
>>142539495 Eh-eh-eh, not ALL of the Mavericks. Dr. Doppler, Bit, Byte, Red, and Lumine don't appear at all. Nobody from Command Mission appears, either.
>>142539495 >Collide: lovingly draws a big spread of the Robot Masters with nods the their lore and games >Unite: the artist borderlinetraces all the key art for the mavericks
>>142539615 Honestly all Sigma needed to do was put a force field around him and let him start screaming, the good guys would have killed themselves to escape it.
>>142539565 ENTER the comic's killers! >kaminski spends shitton of money for tons of random licenses that will get glorified cameos >because clearly people are gonna rush to buy the issues with Alex Fucking Kidd in them >archie sees that gigantic money sink and thinks licensed comics aren't worth it >Archie Sonic gets cancelled This event deserve all the scorn and more. I have more goodwill towards issue 150 because at least it wasn't so stupid it killed the series.
>>142539495 I hate the way the crossovers utilize the robot masters. The actual Megaman comic is great because it gave throw away boss fights personalities and individuality. Meanwhile in the crossover they’re just generic goons that get demolished easily.
>>142539722 >mammoth mogul: i did it better >>142539688 If you're not a troll yourself then please for the love of Chip ignore. Even telling a troll to STFU gives them the attention they crave.
>>142539716 >sees a thread called Archie Sonic Storytime >the OP image has Sonic in it >enters the thread anyway and complains about Archie Sonic characters being present lmao
I only participate in the Megaman threads. And this, because we're gonna get NiGHTS, Panzer Dragoon, Firebrand, and Amaterasu in the same story. Which is fucking awesome.
>>142539795 Turns out fighting an army while still hurting from earlier fights isn't a good idea. >>142539786 Crush 40 are the gods of quoted song lyrics. You pray to them and nobody else.
>>142539761 He's so handsome! >>142539772 It's his DESTINY to reverse-brap Sigma! >>142539793 You could try just enjoying the comic for what it is then
>>142539688 Boco is basically the platonic ideal of a stereotypical 4chan post: he dislikes everything besides shit he very vaguely likes from childhood, but even that is crammed with retard takes because at the end of the day, he doesn't really feel anything besides discontent
>>142539795 >Wily, you should know that Rock is incapable of hate, even without his programming. At least until MM7. Once again, I am crushed by the fact we'll never see the Archie version of MM7's ending. I just wanted to see if Rock, especially this version, could ever actually bring himself to do it.
>>142539872 >>142539901 I'm sad that Capcom stopped putting in SF Light Capsule upgrade after X2, Nova Strike basically reminds me of a Psycho Crusher anyway
>>142539824 Because doing that would cause a time paradox. Same reason why Light never meets X. It is a shame Shadow never interacts with him though. All because he got killed off anti-climactically for no reason.
>>142539927 But that would mean having to come up with another move from an SF character for EVERY game. I could see maybe Guile's Sonic Boom, Chun-Li's Spinning Bird Kick...
>>142539808 Wew! >>142539823 Flynn's a coward for not doing that! >>142539847 Fun fact: these Ride threads have had over 200k posts, but Boco's post count easily dwarfs that
>>142539947 Sally is basically telling everyone Kaminski's pitch for this event. Also, get away from her, Snake Man. Why are you still showing up like this???
>>142539986 Kaminski's one of those retarded guys who thinks 'more is best' with no thoughts about cohesion and how to use them. It's the principle of one of those shitty fan wikis that throw random franchises in, except it's costing actual money.
>>142539986 Man the art for this issue really sucks. I mean I know they have to draw a lot of characters but still that's just another reason why events suck.
>>142539988 Fuck. I saw Gate in the group shot and my brain deleted Double from existence. I mean who gives a shit about Double? If I'm playing X4 I play as Zero
>>142540035 >hates technology and robots >his robot eye can open up portals XANDER MOTHERFUCKING PAYNE EVERYONE! >>142540045 Shit, that works way better!
>>142539986 >Sally is basically telling everyone Kaminski's pitch for this event. Can she explain why the hell it took so damn long for the event to get to this part?
>>142540078 If it wasn't for the SMS we wouldn't even be here were we are today..... sega-less and all of the franchises forgotten outside of a shitty tie in event to a crappy dying comic... and... I want to go play golden axe and cry
>>142540120 Sega's probably like, "We were already generous enough to let ONE of Capcom's characters get a super form from our franchise, why should they get TWO?"
>>142540110 Okay. So why was it 14+ issues long in the first place? Make it shorter so you can actually use the licenses you paid for. Added benefit being to not eat up issues of the regular books.
>Ian wanted to have X go Super using the Force Armor, but Sega said he couldn't. >Ian also stated that his first draft included Phoenix Wright from the Ace Attorney games, but was shot down by Capcom themselves due to him not fitting in with the big fight at the end. >Another franchise that he wanted to use is Phantasy Star Online, but SEGA rejected it for reasons unknown, probably due the sequel's then-Development Hell of the western localization. >According to Ian Flynn on his “BumbleKast” #91, a third crossover was planned for 2017, but was scrapped when Archie lost the licenses to Sonic and possibly Mega Man that same year. Also in an earlier interview, then-editor Paul Kaminski claimed that the third crossover would have Mario appearing in the third act, implying that Archie was not only still pursuing Nintendo to get the comic book rights for their IPs but hoping to use a crossover as a springboard for a line of Nintendo comics. (When Archie lost interest in that, Flynn instead approached Nintendo and Dark Horse Comics for an ARMS graphic novel which is stuck in Development Hell as of 2023.) >Additionally, the Nexus (also known as Genesis Nexus) that Sticks talked about at the end was meant to be a meeting place for the crossovers. Ian described as a simple place to let characters crossing over meet whenever it happens. And in the end, they would return to their world.
>>142540078 >Unless you’re Brazilian nobody gave a flying fuck about the Mastersystem. Excuse you, one of the most beloved Sega series got its start on the MasterSystem.
>>142540186 >Another franchise that he wanted to use is Phantasy Star Online, but SEGA rejected it for reasons unknown That's a shame, it would have been pretty cool to see Red Ring Rico.
>>142540228 >in an alternate version, Alex Kidd recognize Sonic >in the next panel, we see him strangling the hedgehog while screaming about wanting his mascot position back
>>142540246 Yeah, bringing Alex Kidd when the first Capcom's guest was fucking Street Fighter just kinda highlight how less popular Sega's franchises are.
>>142540186 Honestly they should've just done occasional one-issue specials for the crossovers >>142540252 >Firebrand with dat ass! Not that I'm complaining, but how did they get away with a booty like that?
>>142540433 >Sticks putting on the severed head of Magma Dragoon >Reminder that Reploids are made to be thinking individuals with free will, so basically people
>>142540437 >Aika and Fina already have dibs on him. They can have his front, I'll take his rear! >>142540447 >ENTER BISONNNNNNNN! The best part of the movie! That and Kylie Minogue
>>142540472 Nights should be honored, Daddy Naka loves him so much he made a knock of (I unironcally love Balan's game, yeah yeah trash taste) and super salty he doesn't own custody that he fucking erased Oshima out of a group photo
>>142540449 Yeah, it's feeling more and more like a random grab-bag of characters Reminds me of sprite comics, and not in a good way >>142540472 Reala got buff! >>142540487 It's so odd
>>142540504 Twink x twunk, what a combination! >Nice. I can actually read what Wizeman is saying. Turns out blurry red text on a yellow background wasn't the best idea for readability!
I like this World's Unite stuff, at first, but now all I can think is how much of a waste it actually is. Seeing all these cool Mavericks in this terrible shit and jobbing honestly annoys me. Like, this is terrible.
>>142540551 Good game, drags a bit in the latter half but still really solid. This kinda makes me want to replay it now, but my backlog's big enough as is
>>142540516 >I unironcally love Balan's game The concept was kino but the controls were absolutely terrible. I never even finished it, and I've beaten 06 several times >>142540527 He's just that cool!
>>142540603 And that's it! Tomorrow at 7pm EST we finish this event so we can resume the comics! Lots of Sonic, Mega Man, and Sonic Boom after that! LOL
>>142540516 All the members of Sonic Team have some kind of genuine mental disorder. Remember when Kishimoto says he hears Sonic’s voice in his head during development.
>Franchise Killer: The lukewarm response to the event led to middling sales which Archie was barely able to recover from, and forced them to make cuts to pay off the licensing fees for the other characters that joined in on the crossover. Eventually, they were forced to put the Mega Man comic into permanent hiatus, and the Sonic Boom comic was cancelled soon after. The main Sonic comic and Sonic Universe also went under a year later due to Archie's struggling finances and putting more focus on their own properties. Then the property rights for the Sonic comics were snatched up by IDW, and everyone who worked on the series jumped ship, pretty much ensuring the Mega Man comics could never continue either.
>>142540597 You mean the fact that most of the game only works with one button with the one only other button being the thing that let's you switch costumes? I got used to it
>>142540648 >but we got NiGHTS, Ghouls n Ghosts, and Okami. So it evens out. And they're not going to actually do anything so their image being printed on paper was completely pointless.
Here's why none of the "darker" franchises appeared in the crossover.
>Exiled from Continuity: Characters from Resident Evil and Devil May Cry (presumably along with their SEGA counterparts House of the Dead and Bayonetta) do not appear in this comic. Ian Flynn states that their dark and violent nature would've clashed horribly with the bright and colorful tones of Sonic and Mega Man.
>>142540641 >pretty much ensuring the Mega Man comics could never continue either Ian could still bring it back. He's still writing some stories here and there for Archie. But Mega Man never sold well so Archie wouldn't care to have it back.
>>142540516 I found my own way to have fun with Balan but the problem is its a game with the bones of a good game idea but there's no muscle or flesh to it with it's outdated and antiquated control ideas
>>142540687 I don't remember zombies or demons being part of those arcs, or the bloody exterminating of both. Also imagine how censored Bayonetta would have been to be in the comic, they had a hard enough time hiding Tyris Flare's body.
>>142540640 That's not that different from the shit Zelda's Majora's Mask devs went through, they even had a nightmare he had during development become the basis for one of the opening cutscenes for the game. (The one where Link becomes a Deku Scrub for the first time to be exact)
>>142540670 a fan game capcom licenced to be exact, free to play
>>142540684 You are the reason we can't have nice things. A simple minded vacuous cretin whose obsession with shallow iconography robs art of any and all intrinsic narrative and aesthetic value. This is why bad events keep getting rolled out, why hollywood runs on recycled ideas and why nothing has any value anymore. You are a mindless cultural pollutant and I pity you. Also shut up.
>>142540744 >I don't remember zombies or demons being part of those arcs, or the bloody exterminating of both. Well, you wouldn't have to have that. But there were definitely guns, and the threat of shooting humans with those guns. Here, they'd be shooting robots, so I dunno what the problem would be.
>>142540612 The one character that everyone would tap! >>142540624 Thanks Konductor! >>142540632 lmao, we posted close to 100 NiGHTS bussy pics when we did the original comics >>142540640 Just like the fans, hew hew >>142540651 My issue was more that some of the costumes didn't allow you to jump. Also, I waited for ages to construct that clock thing and it didn't even do anything when it was completed. Between that and the massive difficulty spike on the last level I just gave up. I really did want to like it though. Highly recommend Rodea the Sky Soldier (the wii version at least) if you're into Naka's other games. It's absolute kino and is pretty much the only game I enjoyed using the wiimote with
We didn’t get any Yakuza content because 0 didn’t save the series in the west yet. The early 2010’s was a dark time to be a fan of that series. Yakuza 5 only got a english translation years after it came out in Japan.
>>142540708 I just think everyone jumped to hate on Balan because it was easy to do so, if anything I can understand people saying it was bad for being boring not for being broken
Don’t worry guys. Things may seem bad. But I just got off a call, and they said that Roll and Sticks will make us feel all better by giving out free sex for everyone!!!
>>142540798 I'm plenty lengthened up. Did I ask for a grim dark serious take on things? No. But the amount of wasted potential, poor art and hollow visual references in this arc was nothing short of a calamity. It was a giant waste of time and energy that would have been better spent on literally anything.
>>142540793 Rodea is great!, I say, never beating the final boss because I swear they put you in a corner where if you don't react in a damn MILLESECOND of a frame your fucked
I hate how some people see Ian as purposefully sabotaging Penders's work. He's not petty. With the echidnas, I think he was just bringing it more in line with the games and making Knuckles close to the last of his people. With making Knuckles Enerjak, that was just a decision that would make an interesting story with him becoming the very evil he was prophesized to destroy. Ian's original idea was to turn Remington into Enerjak, anyways.
I guess now's as good of a time as any to bring up my personal tertiary problem, but this crossover is reminding me that sometimes I'll want to try play an old/"classic" game I haven't played before but I'm also a giga autist that wants to 100% shit (make the most out of each game and all that) but I also hate having to use external guides to figure out obtuse secrets that were clearly designed with some sort of guide in mind and I dunno how to cope with my autism here
>>142540859 >but otherwise its fun, especially for longtime Sega and Capcom fans. It's not. It's cheap references. There's no meat to it. The whole thing is just recognition that these franchises existed at a time but there's no real value. You're not seeing any of the characters act in character. You're not seeing any unique or fun interactions. You're seeing OMG REMEMBER XYZ! This is dangling keys.
>>142540821 Better question, why isn't it on digital store fronts such as other Dreamcast darlings like Crazy Taxi, Jet Set Radio, and Space Channel 5?
>>142540838 He jumped ship to DC Comics almost immediately after he got the crossover rolling, it was an attempt to kill Archie and remove a competitor to his new boss.
>>142540719 Nightopian booty just hits different >>142540771 If they went with NB people would just assume Nota bene (note well) >>142540836 Lmao, I never beat the final boss either. The controls just aren't precise enough to time things with that sort of reaction time and it really does a number on the wrist. It was such a fun game otherwise, and the character designs were amazing. Who would've thought robot kite twinks could look so good!
>>142540859 >They are two of the best game companies ever, afterall. It's funny how there are some stretches of time where trying to say that about Capcom would get people trying to crucify you lol
>>142540889 >I'm also a giga autist that wants to 100% shit Same. >I also hate having to use external guides If you don't use guides, you're likely not going to 100% a game. I always use guides for stuff I'm playing so I know I'm not missing anything, and knowing what to do to make sure I can 100% a game.
>>142540800 Some general ideas of fixing it >Don't make getting hit lose a costume, have actual health or if you want to have a risk of losing a costume be apart of the design give em durability or have em pop out if hit hard enough like in Kirby >Speed up the time for changing costumes >Reduce the bloat for costumes and instead focus on a good handful and have variants (Air Cat, the Unicorn, Frost Fairy to be an example) be upgrades as the game goes on >Rework ALL of the "Activates on their own" costumes
These fixes alone can lead to them being able to make more interesting levels as their not held back by the limitations of the game's mechanics and controls. Also I will say the best part of the game was the Boss Fights since they actively encouraged you to find out all the different ways to damage the boss.
>>142540840 Especially since, and I cannot stress this enough, their threesome energy comes with no drama. All three of these fuckers are totally gay for each other. It really does come across like they're all down. A nice cute romance with no bullshit attached is refreshing.
>>142540793 >>142540836 Its a crime that the version most people are exposed to of this game are the Wii U and 3DS garbo ports instead of the Wii Version. I'm glad the preorder came with the Wii version.
>>142540930 Don't forget >let all the costume jump Why they locked jumping for certain costumes in a plateformer is beyond me. >>142540947 Enlighten me, how well is Archie doing?
>>142540930 Well said! The game would've been a lot more fun with those changes >>142540940 Cute! >>142540961 Yeah, I went with the preorder just to get the Wii version and never used the Wii U version. It's actually got better textures since the Wii U is itself a port from the 3DS
>>142540893 The biggest issue I have is how formulaic it is. Seriously in this issue alone you get 3 separate instances of villains going “I am le bad guy of this game, but this sigma fellow is an even bigger problem so I shall fight him!”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r-48jUVDpVs&pp=ygULU0YzIE9TVCBXaW4%3D >Vs. X or Rock: Always an honor! >Vs. Sigma: Who ended your madness, you ask? I AM CAPTAIN COMMANDO. > Vs. Vergil: My "Motivation" comes from protecting the innocent!! >Vs. Sonic: A little cocky but no one can deny your heart. >Vs. NiGHTS: My dream? A world with no injustice. >Vs. Joe Musashi or Strider: From the dark or light, Justice will always break through! >Vs. Vyse: Rogues would usually be on my wanted list but your crew would be welcomed in my Commando Team. >Vs. Tyris Flare: I'm usually not one for vengeance but this Death Adder MUST be stopped. >Vs. Eggman: When I'll give it up? When people like you learn that Justice always prevail!!
Come to think of it, maybe the most disappointing thing to me regarding this crossover is the fact that Sigma being a virus who infects basically any machinery that he can makes him the ideal villain for the crossover, but it's not played up for what it's worth AND it gets bogged down by endless cameos
>>142541021 Just the collector's edition and initial print run of the Wii U version had it. I got the collector's edition for the soundtrack and art book >>142541023 I can't wait for his DVD/comic/trading cards!
Y'know, much as I bitch about it, Sega would almost certainly find a way to fuck up a Skies of Arcadia remake or even simple re-release. These incompetent twats so damn useless.
>>142540894 Case and point. That IS a good question. What the hell.
>This reminds me of the time I got thrown off of Angel Island, Howard. >How the fuck did you get thrown off, Kreese? >Apparently you can't put your balls in a Chaos Microwave! I thought we had rights!
>>142541137 That was lucky considering it's not easy to tell if there's a Wii version included or not. Man, I wish we got a Rodea 2 instead of Balan. They already had the gameplay down! >>142541202 He was given a suspended prison sentence so as long as he doesn't commit any more crimes he's free. He did just sue Square Enix over Balan though
See you all next thread /co/cksluts! Molu, the Sonknux artist I usually post has gone on a Hasbin Hotel binge, depriving me of my precious ship ;_; As if I didn't have enough reasons to dislike that show already!
>>142541653 Relationship goals! >>142541654 Yeah, it's still strange to me despite Archie making a big deal about finger numbers. Even worse, there's only 3 toes!
>>142541674 Slugger Sonic will forever be associated with all that lewd andromorph art for me, not that I'm complaining! >>142541685 Four! Four should be canon!
