Sonic #155-156 and Sonic X #2-3 Sally’s getting married to… Antoine?! But isn’t he currently on Moebius and his evil doppelganger has been pretending to be him for over a year? That’s right! But Sonic’s not taking this sitting down! He’ll do whatever he can to stop this! And then, get ready for two issues of Sonic X! First is an underwater adventure as the gang goes looking for booty! And then Eggman uses the evilest thing to power his new robots! Man!
Question: If you had to marry off the two people of your main ship to other characters, what would the new pairs be?
>>141137611 >Question: If you had to marry off the two people of your main ship to other characters, what would the new pairs be? As much as it is tainted by pendertism I do like Sonic with Bunnie and Sally with Knuckles
>>141137611 >Question: If you had to marry off the two people of your main ship to other characters, what would the new pairs be? Well suppose due to how I ship Sonally and Sonaze mainly, suppose since Archie thread I'd keep it to Sonally and say I'd marry off Sonic and Rouge since like the pair and be Sally and Mordred Hood cause fuck it why not, she gonna get snaked to evil suppose
>>141137673 >let's hear you say that when alicia is around HOLY SHIT QUACK, THIS IS CHILDREN'S COMIC! I think. >>141137656 Funny how Penders messed up both of those.
>>141137611 A Sonic-Team member saw this cover and thought that the biggest issue wasn't the flesh eyelids. Go figure...
>Sally’s getting married to… Antoine?! But isn’t he currently on Moebius and his evil doppelganger has been pretending to be him for over a year? Don't worry, there is a fan-comic that fix that.
>If you had to marry off the two people of your main ship to other characters, what would the new pairs be? I guess Sally to Nicole and Sonic to... One of the Twin from boom? Bit random but whatever... Archie Sonic to one of the Boom twin, specifically. Boom Sonic still get with Boom Amy.
>>141137679 Technically speaking, Tails didn't tell her until that moment, so him. At the same time, Sonic knew Tails had a thing for her and said nothing, so he comes off as an asshole.
>>141137673 Buttbroke Tails fans for years which is funny, not that it's hard to do that, But do think this shouldn't of happened and that it hurt all character's involved.
>>141137736 Penders is very efficient when it comes to making the love lives of everyone shit. >>141137679 Oddly enough, only Sonic and Tails. Not Fiona because she's being honest. Her innocence will change later on.
>>141137757 >you vs the guy she tells you not to worry about >>141137740 Elias ran away and refused to come back. Sally's a good daughter and will give up everything for her father, especially when Penders is writing.
>>141137611 >Question: If you had to marry off the two people of your main ship to other characters, what would the new pairs be? I wouldn't, but I guess I'd pair Sonic with Mighty and Amy with Ray or Tails. Fuck Sonadow or Shadamy - they're mostly done terribly and used to excuse horrifically toxic bullshit.
>>141137621 Scourge is just a horny jackals who occasionally beats people up. Patch is looking to murder people of import and stage a coup to dominate an unsuspecting world.
>>141137802 You kind of slapped that happy ending away. >>141137790 That's on Bollers for leaving. Penders tossed all that development between Sonic and Max right out.
>>141137740 Elias was publicly humiliated when trying to use the sword. The People want sally for a Queen and Max consider the kingdom need a ruler with the people behind them.
>>141137611 >Question I'd marry Sonic to Sally or Sara, and Knuckles to Julie-Su or Rouge depending on the continuity >>141137658 You've gone tru farr this time Slutnic. Also, it kiinda sounds like Tails is dating Fiona instead of him
>>141137922 And that's when the Fire Nation attacked. >>141137901 >I'd marry Sonic to Sally or Sara, and Knuckles to Julie-Su or Rouge depending on the continuity I think I know who this is!
>>141137673 I'm retroactively blaming this one on Ian >>141137736 >but it's been love ever since! lmao, your husband's been having an affair with Locke the entire time
>>141137899 >"Antoine": Hon Hon, I will get ze crown, fuck Sally, fuck her mother and kill ze fat fuck! Then they'll name me, King of Mob-NON. GOD EMPEROR OF MOBIUS.
>>141137886 >tfw that robot version of her is probably still there >Rusted >Forgotten >Yet still aware Assuming she hasn't stopped thinking by this point.
>>141137722 >>141137749 Tailsfags are the most fragile little faggots in the entire Sonic fandom, which is saying something. They can't appreciate any Sonic media unless it deepthroats that little twerp every minute.
>>141137785 lmao >>141137799 >>141137897 Anything to move the plot forwards! >>141137922 >We interrupt a bad story with a Dulcy story! And just when I thought things couldn't get any worse! >>141137937 >I think I know who this is! You can't prove that, I picked hetero ships!
>>141137979 I like how Nate being the creator of the power rings has been quietly retconned. Gallagher always did prefer to portray them as a magic resource.
>>141137964 Penders being creepy in regards to female characters? Say it ain't so!
>>141137988 This re-read has made me realize that all of Sally's low points "coincidentally" occur whenever she gets arbitrarily benched. The instant she resumes a more active role, she's fine again.
>>141137611 >Question: If you had to marry off the two people of your main ship to other characters, what would the new pairs be? Silver with Lara-Su/Jani-Ca Stripes with Sonic
>>141138049 You say that as if Tails doesn't already do that, it's why Sonic feels so emasculated by Mogul saying Tails is stronger in House of Cards. Since Tails is bigger in a different department too
>>141138060 That's the idea now, that he just figured out how to make them artificially, but Bollers was pretty insistent that Nate made them all, nevermind the ones that appeared in random zones in Gallagher's stories.
>>141137986 I can get being upset about his treatment but the behaviour from them kinda makes me want the writers to bully Tails more despite liking him well enough
>>141138053 >Dulcy was punished for actually trying to stop Robotnik, instead of cowering like a little bitch These have to be some of the shittiest dragons in fiction. Dragons are usually mighty and proud apex beings who only get stronger as they age. A real dragon would've smited this arrogant fat nerd for daring to step to them. Dulcy was right to ditch these losers.
>>141137679 Character A: is in love, confides this in a friend, admittedly makes poor choice in friends but nothing wrong with love Character B: dates someone else, he's shallowly using her and tossing her for a rebound, admittedly has poor choice in men but nothing wrong in being mistaken Character C: betrays Character A who by all means he should have all the respect in the world for, takes selfish advantage of Character B's feelings for a rebound, selfishly breaks Character A's heart and makes it clear he has zero respect for Character A despite everything -- is extremely wrong
>>141138182 Cute Knuckles next to the swan ice sculpture in the first panel >Guess the movie reference! Was it the Wedding Singer? I genuinely can't remember
>>141138182 Does anyone even know what relationships are what or anything that is going on at the office? It's such a cluster fuck and Penders obsession with royal arranged marriages and all this nonsense tradition shit is fucking tiresome
>>141138222 Penders pretty much went out of his way to portray the Kingdom of Acorn as the worst possible thing in the world. I've never seen a single fantasy kingdom be treated like this, specially not one in a series made for little kids.
>>141138244 Wait >>141138166 >Beats me why Knux thinks this jerk is such a stand-up guy when all I see is a big wuss. Sonic, you've known Elias for a while now. You know him better than Knuckles by virtue of being around him more.
>>141138244 >Elias didn't come back to help Sally, he came back because fuck Antoine only I can be trusted to be king I mean, he was right, but his motives are kind of fucked.
>>141138182 >IT'S NOT FAIR! SALLY SHOULDN'T MARRY ANTOINE, SHE SHOULD BE IN MY HAREM!!! Holy fuck someone kick this guy in the balls already. What happened because Jules didn't beat his shitstain kid enough, he grew up as entitled as Sonic.
>>141138262 I hate to be that guy, but it almost makes one wonder why we should care about the Kingdom of Acorn being preserved, when it's portrayed as a backwards borderline dictatorship.
Tellin' you, Sally really should've just run a coup.
>>141138278 Oh, definitely. >Bollers makes it clear that Elias doesn't want to be king and has no faith in his ability to lead compared to Sally, to the point of running away >Penders initially wrote Elias as Max's "backup option" and now is creating a scenario where Elias must come back and retake the crown.
>>141138334 The problem of this is that the Kingdom of Acorn is essentially the Mushroom Kingdom of SatAM/Archie. What is being done in these arcs is poison the entire setting in an unrecoverable way. I bet the people writing this shit thought they were being smart.
>>141138278 >ELIAS YOU HAVE TO IMPREGNATE MEG UNDERSTAND? YOUR KEK DAUGHTER CAN'T ASCEND TO THE THRONE, YOU MUST MAKE ROYAL SQUIRREL BABIES WITH MEG RIGHT NOW >THE ACORN LINEAGE MUST CONTINUE ELIAS
>>141137698 I like how Quack is so done with everyone's shit. Like, aside from unknowingly helping a murderer, Quack just really doesn't give a damn anymore
>>141137775 "Antoine" threatening to kill a guy he has literally fought with and was on mostly good terms with after letting go of his grudges? Boy, that sure sounds like 'Twan to me! Definitely not an evil double whatsoever!
>>141138389 >Later that night, most of Knothole is kept up by loud French and Southern squealing & moaning. >Armand sheds a tear of joy at his boy plowing Bunnie into next week.
>>141137757 Has Sonic ever told Bunnie about Anti-Sonic? Like, even if she didn't believe him, he told her that it wasn't him putting the moves on her, right?
>>141138442 Sonic is totally the guy who'd bust someone's balls but wear a handmade sweater his mom made him with pride
>>141137953 >lmao, your husband's been having an affair with Locke the entire time The real reason she went to the island was to steal locked wife away from him and she might have done it if she didn't go into a coma and wynmaker swoosed on in
>>141137881 >Jules: Honey, listen, I just have a feeling that it's best not to get involved. Otherwise we'd be, I don't know, wrapped up some insane overhyped prophecy or dealing with our son's evil clone!
>>141138526 Yayyyy! I guess. Anyway, that's it for the main series. We have three more Penders issues and we'll be free! But for now, we got a couple issues of Sonic X to do!
>>141138553 And this is basically the last we'll see of Dulcy until the reboot beyond some background cameos. Ian Flynn used to say that, despite his penchant for reinventing old characters, he had absolutely no idea what to do with her.
>>141138409 >fairy tale kiddy artstyle >story about dragons melting robot dragons with their fire breath while the robot dragons retaliate with mouth lasers
These comics should've never stopped being like this.
>>141137636 >>141137658 >>141137673 This was such a horrible idea. Destroying Tails's romance with Fiona and his friendship with Sonic just so Fiona of all people can be Sonic's rebound from Sally. It'd make more sense to just have it be Bunnie since not only were you going down that path in 150 when she slept with Evil Sonic, but it'd intensify the relationship issues to be unpacked once the Antoine switcheroo was resolved.
I used to think this was Bollers's idea since he's the one who wrote The Slap, but that one anon from two threads ago made a decent argument that this was Penders writing Sonic all kinds of excuses to rotate girlfriends while waiting for Sally to mellow out (wish that was more clear to figure out since it's not like Penders was the guy who broke them up), and what better way to steer her towards that mellowing than get Elias to come back and take the throne from her - the issue she broke up with Sonic over?
In regards to Penders' writing, if I had a nickel for every time I've seen some fantasy world gradually get turned into a horrid dystopia by sheer accident of the writer I would have 2 nickels, which isn't much but it's weird that it's happened twice
So, genuine question to the anons in this thread: I remember when I was much younger at a bookstore, and the then-newest Archie Sonic came out. I don't remember the exact issue, but it featured Sonic playing guitar while Mina sang on stage, and Sally feeling sad because she felt her and Sonic were soulmates. Does anyone here know which issue that was?
>>141138678 Eggman could make a lot of money making better batteries for Earth but he just wants to turn people into dinos-- I mean robo-- I mean... whatever this version of Eggman wants to do.
>>141138278 Everyone just takes Elias coming out of exile and claiming the throne completely fine. No drama, no protest, no shock. He just shows up and that's it.
>>141138389 >Tails in the last panel This is just awful what the fuck??? Why would you end it on that? Surely Penders was gonna fix this with Tails finding someone before he quit
>>141138852 Knuckles is now getting involved! >>141138842 I honestly don't know what Penders thought of Tails. It felt like all the Tails stuff with Penders was with Gallagher co-writing.
>>141138389 Wow Sonic sure looks very concerned about Tails here. I want to adopt Archie Tails and move him someplace where everyone isn't an absolute faggot
>>141138852 >Topaz with the save God I miss her. The funny thing about X is that while Chris is rightly hated, pretty much all the other human characters are actually pretty cool.
>>141138970 To be honest, it would be probably hard for a comic book company back then to easily find someone who can do good Anime-styled art for a reasonable price. Archie was already lucky to have people like Spaz around.
>>141138998 I hope they can breathe underwater. >>141139001 Sonic X is the most American anime and has the most American dub and is published by an American company with American artists. So maybe.
>>141139033 >Sonic X is the most American anime Not the artstyle though. That is very anime, and mecha anime nonetheless that is even more niche than the average moeblobs or shonen.
>>141139082 >>141139065 >Not the artstyle though. DESU the art style reminds me of generic 2000s anime (go figure) that a lot of western studios tried to copy and some were better than others.
>>141139195 Sam is basically a human version of Sonic, so this isn't remotely surprising. The only real differences are that he's a cop without superpowers.
>>141139244 At least with Topaz, she was tricked into thinking it was a gift from Rouge. Which, by the way, is really sweet. ... Yes, I ship them. Why do you ask?
>>141139442 >insert falling pun here >>141139408 >>141139436 Amy is just waiting for her chance to extract Sonic's semen so she can have a clone made of him.
It might just be me, but it feels like the whole energy of the thread dies down as soon as sonic x is being done. lmao, no offensense conductor, its not you, its that comic.
>>141139526 >>141139514 I knew that well before starting this. The other Conductor stitched all the pages together into one image and posted whole issues in one.
>>141139514 Sonic X is just sort of profoundly mediocre: not genuinely good enough to be interesting, but not bad enough to be a chuckleworthy trainwreck
>>141139594 And that's it! Tomorrow at 7pm EST we do the last three issues of Penders' run as he brings back Shadow and Metal Sonic! A whole lot of Metal Sonics!
>>141139549 >>141139546 I wouldn't call it mediocre. It's an enjoyable read. Bu it's neither horrendously bad enough or Grand either to warrant much discussion. But I understand the comics selling well to the fan of the anime back then. It seems to capture its spirit well enough.
>>141139571 >Tails... what are you doing? He's being a creepy little freak. The more I see of Tails, the less I like him. Can we replace him with Tekno, please? Her psycho shenanigans are funny.
>>141139641 >--after she fucked Scourge Nothing indicate they fucked. Quite the contrary, she was only pretending to date who she believed to be Sonic for the sole sake of getting a raise out of "Antoine". so, she had no interest in Sonic to begin with.
>>141139673 >playing with the internals of some robot that just got destroyed This is the kind of stuff that Tails should do more often. The mix of being smart but also a small kid.
>>141139641 >after she fucked Scourge Nothing indicate they fucked. Quite the contrary, she was only pretending to date who she believed to be Sonic for the sole sake of getting a raise out of "Antoine". so, she had no interest in Sonic to begin with. >and never told Antoine How do you know she told him nothing?
>>141139737 They "slept" together in the woods. They fucked. She had interest in Sonic in previous stories, like that arc where she's in highschool and everyone's dressing in anime outfits And I know she told him nothing because in the issue where Armand dies Bunnie goes "Sugah you don't mind that I let Sonic use my holes in the 10 days you were gone?" but never once mentioned to Antoine she did the same with Scourge too
>>141139790 >, like that arc where she's in highschool and everyone's dressing in anime outfits There was romantic interest between sonic and Bunnie in the school arc, anon.
>>141139890 I mean, they never lowered to cancellation levels, at least. Archie didn't care as long as it sold, none of the writers cared as long as Sega didn't object, and Sega didn't give a fuck as long as it didn't hurt the brand's image.
>>141139869 there was, there was a whole love triangle between her and Mina. Denying her and Scourge did anything after sh wakes up with him in the woods with him looking all satisfied is laughable, too
>>141139929 >there was, there was a whole love triangle between her and Mina. Post pages proving it. >Denying her and Scourge did anything Post page proving it.
>>141139895 It's so vague you can't even tell. That's the thing about 1st era Archie sonic. No matter what crazy shit happens, it leaves no impact. It makes it so boring
If you believe Penders then Evil Sonic and Bunnie had sex. If you believe anyone else then they'll likely tell you that it never happened. Arguing over it will get you nowhere.
>>141139961 If you insist. Should I also post the page where they're furiously making out while hiding in the bushes right before this, instead of just standing around somewhere like you usually do? Antoine, look away...
>Character bashers >Self-inserters >Porn addicts/NTRfags >Schizophrenics/schizoaffectives who treat these characters like they're real I hate romance drama so much, it intrinsically attracts the worst people on top of characters generally acting OOC/like deranged parodies of themselves or otherwise just somehow going full retard
>>141139984 >If you believe Penders There is your problem. He doesn't own the IP. Nothing he say can be of any value, especially if he said it after being fired and being piss angry about it.
>>141139869 >Post pages proving it. Not him but Bunnie was even getting jealous at Mina over it Penders' Sonic haremshit went back a ways before this arc
>>141140094 >If you insist >show comic where all they are doing is kissing You are really bad at this. That they were kissing has already been established before. What do you think you are trying to prove, there?
It's pathetic how you are relying on stuff that has been retconned and even that can't help your point.
>>141140169 >>141140186 >Not him but Bunnie was even getting jealous at Mina over it No? She just saw what Mina was trying to do and didn't like that she was trying to take Sally's boyfriend. Sally is Bunnie's friend, remember?
At no point does she actually show romantic interest for Sonic.
>>141140205 No, that happened 5 issues later in 99. Sally and Mina had no drama here, Bunnie was snuggling up to Sonic the whole issue and got mad because Mina was there with him instead
>>141140230 Read >>141140241 Bunnie was mad because she was trying to get Sonic's attention that arc, the Mina thing with Sally happened later Sonic was always the writer's garystu self-insert
>>141140266 Sonic's not a gary stu. lmao Him going on a mission with Bunnie made him lose the sword of acorns, lose his knighthood and his trust with the Elias.
Reminder that Bunnie and Antoine had been dating since before Endgame. Even during Bollers run they were holding hands and flirting. They only broke up during the one year time skip after 125.
>>141140266 >Sonic was always the writer's garystu self-insert >garystu You mean the arc where Sonic fuck up so much he has to be send back to school and the next time he sneak out, he get captured again trying to rescue Geoffrey and get called a furry?
>>141140331 I already did, the several pages of Bunnie fucking Evil Sonic and regular Sonic when Antoine's nowhere in sight to be jealous about anything
>>141140375 They all have to go to school, that was the gimmick of the story. He's like textbook Gary Stu, down to the harem and the edginess and the powerlevelz and everything. Even when he does something bad the cast goes back to sucking him off. The entire planet worships him and crown him king.
>>141140376 >I already did, the several pages of Bunnie fucking Evil Sonic Where? >when Antoine's nowhere in sight to be jealous about anything You think "Antoine" wouldn't hear about this?
To be fair, out of all of the media boards /co/ is probably the worst at identifying genuine mary sues/gary stus because people here seem to have the most limited media palettes
>>141140415 He got the Acorn sword back, broke out and beat everyone up. He even beats up an entire army himself in Iron Legion while boasting and snarking to the reader how he could conquer the whole planet himself if he wanted. Same with Scourge. Never mind the several stories they turn him evil and write the other FFs as weaklings who can't fight just to suck Sonic off some more. He's the most blatant self-insert powerfantasy ever to be put to paper.
>>141140390 >He's like textbook Gary Stu This is the arc where sonic had to be rescued by Mina, a character who had zero fighting experience beforehand.
>>141140465 because he knocked himself out protecting his 99th haremgirl from a Swatbot she was about to be killed by. That's a heroic sacrifice, not a show of weakness. Sonic's the most wanked character in the comic.
>>141140455 >He got the Acorn sword back, No, Princess Sally does. >broke out and beat everyone up A reprogrammed Heavy Bomber is the one "breaking them our" and only because it is part of Eggman's plan.
>Never mind the several stories they turn him evil and write the other FFs as weaklings who can't fight You are talking about the arc where Sonic get knocked out and has to be rescued by Mina, who has zero fighting experience.
>>141140455 >He even beats up an entire army himself in Iron Legion while boasting and snarking to the reader how he could conquer the whole planet himself if he wanted. He immediately gets BTFO by the Iron King after he does that.
>>141138678 >president: no, this is totally different Well, if the President say's it's not a retread of the TV show who am I to disagree >>141138707 He's living the dream >>141138719 lmao, sold! >>141138743 >t. rouge >>141138790 >She looks good in a skintight diving suit. It's not fair, Sonic and Rouge should've had them too! >>141138998 >if he were human, I'd be attracted to him! Never stopped me! >>141139057 >Tracey did some issues and I forgot. Not only did he draw some, he also wrote some issues too
>>141140510 Where Sonic knocks himself out saving her, you mean. I'm talking about the sevral stories he beats up the other FF so they can wank how Sonic is better than them all and they can't fight without him. Heck the several stories, they did that story twice and repeated it when Scourge came
>>141140552 This has been going on since the last ride... TWO YEARS AGO, maybe even more than that. This is beyond healthy discussion or debate. This is schizo territory.
>>141140581 3 more issues and we don't have to suffer from penders echidna writing!
>>141140520 >>141140592 These threads have proven to me Sonic self-inserters cry and cry about Tails all day even when Tails has nothing to do with the convo. Is it a boogeyman or are Sonicfags just this sensitive about people criticising their self-insert?
>>141140575 I used >>141138697 >and Sally feeling sad because she felt her and Sonic were soulmates. As my reference and I thought it was that page you were talking about.
>>141140638 Mix of both. Sonicfags are the most crybaby posters in the threads, despite how much the comic sucks Sonic off constantly. Tails is just a scapegoat for them, most of this thread has been Sonicfags complaining I called him a Gary Stu
>>141140669 >only allowed to "lose" not in weakness but in self-defeat, so the comic can suck off how heroic his sacrifice is and grant him a 7th love interest Gary. Stu.
>>141140692 No, anon here >>141140638 linked 2 examples of Sonicfags throwing another tantrum and passing it off as Tailsfags.
It's YOU retards shitting up every thread by being suck oversensitive little babies when you self-insert as Sonic and cry about how Tailsfags are doing it. Grow up, people can dislike your asshole pet character.
>>141140688 >>only allowed to "lose" not in weakness but in self-defeat So you don't know what a Gary Stu is. Got it. You know self-defeat means flaw, right? Also, you know getting knocked out is not self defeat, right?
And surrendering then being tricked by a ploy of Eg-man isn't either, right?
>>141140784 so, a scapegoat after you spent half a thread crying like a baby because someone called Sonic a gary stu? Right, the Tailsfag in your head is the shitposter ruingin the thread, not you crying because someone insulted your self-insert.
>>141140813 Fucking hell that's what I mean. Most "shitposting" in this thread is just the same 1 or 2 Sonicfags throwing a fit because they saw like a porn image of Tails fucking Sally or something. Then someone says that Sonic did something bad and they go mental and say Tails is ruining the thread. Sonicfags are just incredibly insecure despite the entire comic constantly sucking Sonic off and shitting on Tails, and I will never understand it
>>141140880 People are allowed to complain about bad character You're throwing a fit because you're a manbaby who just got his self-insert criticised. If they're wanked to hell and back, and every girl in the comic is forced into their harem, and they mistreat other characters yet are instantly forgiven and worshipped by the entire story and comic, even making them the king of the world just to wank him some more, they're a Gary Stu
>>141140871 >Most "shitposting" in this thread is just the same 1 or 2 Sonicfags throwing a fit because they saw like a porn image of Tails fucking Sally or something. Based NorgateCHAD why does he only use Tails anyway
>>141140871 >Then someone says that Sonic did something bad and they go mental and say Tails is ruining the thread. Nobody is blaming Tails for anything, try again. And the person you are quoting is complaining about Soni, not Tails.
>>141140902 >People are allowed to complain about bad character Beside the point. You are the one here throwing a tantrum and crying about a character. No one is doing that about Tails here.
explaining to you that you fail to understand what a Gary Stu is is not throwing a tantum either.
>>141140936 I'd be happy if Tails just didn't appear like in Underground. No idea how Sonic fans can complain this much about a comic that fellates him this much. Fucking enjoy what you have, geez
>>141140942 You saw someone saying Sonic is badly written, then spent half a thread throwing your loud little tantrum, then went "Th-The Tailsfags are ruining the thread!" Noone ruined the thread but you being an oversensitive self-inserter
>>141138553 And Art throws down his pens and screams "I'm done! I'm fucking done! Tell Sega that they can take these unholy abominations they call 'updated redesigns' and shove them up their asses."
>>141140968 >Noone ruined the thread I am not the one who made things up to complain about a character, failed to understand concept such a s Gary Stu, and made up plot points that didn't actually happen, while denying the existence of others.
>>141140982 I have not ruled out Ian being a SonTails shipper after IDW issue 64. Sonic shipping Silver and Blaze and then minutes later comparing them to him and Tails is highly suspect. WTF Ian
For some reason most nsfw artists that draw Sally with Sonic turn her into a giga slut, meanwhile the people making /ss/ porn ironically keep her mostly in character and use her comic proportions instead of just inflating her like a balloon.
Personally I wish things would be different, Sally is more cute than hot, and makes a good pair for Sonic.
>>141141017 >waaaahh if you criticised my self-insert then you're making things up and HATE him! >I will write a whole essay about this and it's YOUR fault! YOU ruined the thread you Tailsfag You ruined the thread anon, learn to stop self-inserting as a cringy powerfantasy gary stu for obese virgins Lmao @ you
>>141141052 >>waaaahh if you criticised my self-insert then you're making things up and HATE him! Not what was said. try again. >>I will write a whole essay >You ruined the thread anon You are the one who went on a whole rant about Sonic, anon. Try again.
All I did was point out flaw in your critic and you keep throwing a tantum because of it.
>>141141038 >criticising Sonic is throwing a tantrum about Sonic, not me filling up the whole thread crying like a fag because someone criticised him I substantiated plenty. Writers made other character like the FF look weak to wank Sonic off as the only one who can fight. Writers cucked other characters so Sonic can have a harem. Writers made the whole setting worship Sonic like Jesus and crown him king so they can all suck off how amazing Sonic is 24/7.
If that's not a Gary Stu they ought to come up with a better term. Like a cringy fanfic powerfantasy for low-iq virgins.
>>141141035 Eh, those arguments are boring imo, I’ve heard them word-for-word in the last ride and we’ll hear these exact same whinging when Ian massively drops the ball with his democracy arc. I mostly still hang around after storytime for any interesting fanart posted.
>>141141078 All you did was deny and make up boogeymen about Tailsfags. You're an actual spastic who spent this long throwing a tantrum, and seething about unrelated characters and passing it off as argument, lol Ironically you proved that earlier anon right about Sonicfags shitting up threads again
>>141141113 >>141141093 >Writers made other character like the FF look weak to wank Sonic You are talking about an arc where Sonic frequently fuck up and has to frequently be rescued. >Writers cucked other characters so Sonic can have a harem. sonic kissing other girls was never something you were argued again. Also, Tails was not cuked, he wasn't dating Fiona. And he only agree to date Bunnie because they thought it would make "Antoine" Jealous. >Writers made the whole setting worship Sonic like Jesus Everyone dismiss Sonic at the wedding reception, Sonic get beaten by Patch and easily thrown in Jail. Sally Actually dismiss Sonic when he try to talk to her.
Get a reality check, please.
>>141141113 >All you did was deny and make up boogeymen about Tailsfags. I am not even the one who complained about that. What I did was pointing out your complete lack of basis for your critique. and you threw a tantrum about it.
All you have is continuous bad faith and "critique" for which you have failed to show any actual substance.
>>141141217 I'm talking about the several stories Sonic got mindcontrolled and beat everyone up and they all said they can't do anything to fight him, and the several times they fought people like Geoffrey or Scourge and said none of them can fight but Sonic. Sonic got sucker punched by Patch and didn't try to fight back. In the actual fight later he literally onepunched Patch without effort. Sonic dated Bunnie and Fiona because he dated Bunnie and Fiona, there was no plan involved, only Sonic hooking up with every girl because he's a Gary Stu powerfantasy for obese virgins.
Also I agree, Tails should've fucked Sally in front of Sonic because they weren't together. Sonic's totally not a self-insert, bro, just because they screw other characters to wank Sonic off.
>>141141264 >Tails should've fucked Sally in front of Sonic You say that as if Sally wasn't sucking BIG FOX COCK every night in the comic. That's why Sonic is seething at Tails in MXYL, he heard her moaning on a throatful of the yellow footlong
>>141141289 I guess it was inevitable. This issue demonstrated major small dick energy from Sonic for betraying his little brother that way. Obviously Sonic always had a little micro if he acts that way
>>141141340 Sonic's nose is longer than his dick lol that's why he almost cried when Mogul said Tails is tougher than him. He's insecure about it. Tails wouldn't do something like that because he's got the donkey dick
>>141141264 >No, I am not talking about the current arc, actually Pathetic >I'm talking about the several stories Sonic got mindcontrolled and beat everyone up and they all said they can't do anything to fight him, He get defeated by Antoine and the subsittute Freedom Fighters
>and the several times they fought people like Geoffrey or Scourge Both Geoffrey and Anti-Sonic both get knocked out by Antoine.
>Sonic got sucker punched by Patch and didn't try to fight back. It was a frontal battle and he got his glove nailed by Patch's sword. >Sonic dated Bunnie because he dated Bunnie, there was no plan involved And here you are throwing a tantrum again, denying what the comic itself explicitly establish.
>Also I agree, Tails should've fucked Sally in front of Sonic Hi, Norgate. Also, Patch didn't cuck Sonic either. Funny how you don't use that as an example.
>>141141366 the comic says that Bunnie was using him, not that Sonic was doing Bunnie a favour by cucking him. There was no battle either, Sonic got blindsided then went "Whaaaaat? Antoine doesn't know how to fight!" Then when they actually fight Sonic oneshots him because he's a Gary Stu.
>>141141329 Something I've noticed over the years is that there's a bizarrely high correlation between retard porn addicts and people who just seem to arbitrarily hate everything in whatever IP they squat in but also can't really self-rationalize why they're around because they're too low-functioning to do so, like something more akin to a farm animal in human skin than an actual person.
>>141141394 >the comic says that Bunnie was using him Sonic himself says that, actually. >The protagonist sometimes win and sometime lose So you don't know what a Gary stu is. Got it.
>>141141340 Sonic's cock is so small you'd need a microscope to observe it, only explanation for this issue. Luckily Tails is around to show Sally what a REAL Man feels like when he's tearing up her insides. He's smarter, more loyal, has a good heart, isn't narcissistic or immature, and is a much better person than Sonic too.
I mean thinking about it Tails would be a good husband for Sally. She deserves someone better than FAGnic
>>141141423 >Screws other characters to wank off his powerlevelz >Screws other characters to ship them all with him in a harem >Screws other characters to have the entire setting worship him as a celebrity and a king Gary. Stu.
>>141141457 >>Screws other characters to wank off his powerlevelz You failed to establish that. Try again. >>Screws other characters to ship them all with him in a harem Noone has been arguing against you that all the dating was bad story telling. None of that make a character a Gary Stu. >>Screws other characters to have the entire setting worship him as a celebrity and a king You are tlaking about a whole arc where sonic get told to get lost and keep being defeated.
You don't know what a Gary stu is. That much you have made clear.
>>141141446 Remember when Sonic tried drowning his son for being better than him at Volleyball? Everything you're saying is unironically correct outside of the meme, Sonic's an insecure immature pissbaby even into old age
>>141141502 I established that by naming several stories where it happens, you deflected and made up shit (the subs don't beat Sonic, they blindside him. the sequel doesn't have any subs do it, they all just give up and beg Knuckles to save them) Screwing other characters to form Sonic a harem makes him a gary stu Several arcs have the characters worship the ground Sonic walks on, most of which aren't even MXYL
You self-insert as a cringy badly written gary stu, and are still crying about it
>>141141446 how did Tails turn out an actual good kid when Sonic turned out a spoiled entitled ungrateful little piggy? Rosie did a good job on raising Tails not to turn out like the world's fastest dicklet
>>141141289 I don't think Tails would do that like other anon said Tails is a better guy than Sonic, he wouldn't take revenge for what Sonic did. Maybe you think he should, in which case Tails is just nice to a fault because he probably wouldn't.
>>141141529 >Screwing other characters to form Sonic a harem makes him a gary stu So you don't know what a Gary stu is. Got it (also, Mina doesn't even date or kiss him nor does he even try to date her).
>sometimes the protagonist get acclaimed, some other times, he get fuck up and get called out for it So you don't know what a Gary stu is. Got it.
>and are still crying about it You are the only one complaining crying over a character, anon. And not even for valid reason.
>I established that by naming several stories And for each one you were shown wrong. Seeing you don't even acknowledged that or bother to post page to prove otherwise, your bad faith is clearly established.
Therefore, you are the one shitting the thread. with bad faith.
>>141141632 Mina does kiss him and does go on dates with him, lie Number 1 Sonic is constantly worshipped by everyone in the setting describing his accolades in full and dismissing other characters as nobodies, lie Number 2 People can criticise your self-insert, get over it you crybaby Jumping in the way of a blow is not losing by weakness, it's a sacrifice to protect your 1 millionth love interest in your harem
>>141141622 Give Tails a few years so he loses the niceness. He'll fuck Sally on Sonic's racecar bed, Bernadette in Jules' bed, and Bunnie since she was loose enough to settle for a dicklet like Sonic anyway
>>141141652 >Mina does kiss him and does go on dates with him, lie Number 1 sorry if I wasn't specific enough, I am talking after his return. And they never go on a date together. >Sonic is constantly worshipped by everyone Sally tell him to get lost and he is send to jail when he try to interrup the post wedding celebration. No one question it. You have bene pointed that several time and keep denying it. >People can criticise and peopel can call out th lacking in your critiques too and point out you don't know what a Gary stu is.
>Jumping in the way of a blow is not losing by weakness Losing is losing. You don't know what a Gary Stu is.
>>141141750 They do, both before in Sonic's cringy guitar arc and after when Mina asks him out on a date again after the concert with Ash Exceptions are not the rule, despite how disingenuously you require them, and Sonic is only denied for drama, then busts in and beats up Patch and everyone says he was right all along and continues worshipping him You crying that anyone criticising your Gary Stu self-insert is bad makes you a manbaby If your only good example of him losing is a heroic sacrifice in a fight he was winning, then you have no good example. Sonic is a cringy Gary Stu for fat virgins
