Sonic #284-287 The Freedom Fighters think they have it in the bag but Eggman isn’t giving up! An overwhelming strike hits our heroes and the only way to save the world is to counterattack in one final push! The fate of Sonic’s World hangs in the balance! But when hasn’t it been that way?
Question: Whether it’s a story in a comic, game, show, or movie, what’s your favorite Sonic ending?
Hey, what? What is going on? Oh right, foiled again by the daylight saving time.
>>142637848 >Whether it’s a story in a comic, game, show, or movie, what’s your favorite Sonic ending? I'd say you can't beat the ending of Sonic Adventure 2, but I have a great nostalgia for the ending of the Sonic the Hedgehog 2 game.
Comic wise, Id' guess it would be the conclusion of issue #200 ad #50.
>>142637989 Here's hoping things work out better this time. >>142637953 >Hey, what? What is going on? Oh right, foiled again by the daylight saving time. Didn't even realize that it happened. Ha.
>>142637989 In the previous universe one of Fang’s goons got his rectum reshaped by the royal guards now they’re a joke in this universe. This is what happens when you abandon the piss pool.
>>142638020 Careful, there, Nigel. You don't wanna end up being distracted, knocked down and stuck in a wheelchair. There won't be a Milf to take care of you, this time.
>>142638075 >This rematch sucked! Well that's what happens when the narrative demands the villains not be total morons for once. It's like in that two-parter where Sally and the FF had to job hard despite otherwise acting competently because the script said so.
>>142638097 >>142638120 >Sonic, Antoine and Bunnie solo the Battle Birds >Tails cowers down in the basement doing nothing and fighting noone FUCK YOU IAN!
>>142638165 No? That’s literally what’s happening. Sonic and Antoine beat the mole mech. Tails sits down in the basement and doesn’t eben meet a single battle bird
>>142638178 >No? That’s literally what’s happening. WRONG>>142638137 Are you going to complain that Tails is likely the best qualified to localise the source of the hacking and is thus focused at doing that?
>>142638136 Or, allowing the villains to actually be villains who are intelligent shows that they can overcome the heroes on occasion instead of the heroes being 100% infallible.
>>142638178 >Sonic and Antoine beat the mole mech. They did not, they sliced off one arm and they're not soloing the armada. And Tails isn't cowering doing nothing, he was hunting down Tails Doll and helping Nicole.
>>142638203 Things aren't looking good for our heroes! >>142638196 Tails in the reboot doesn't have any really bad moments but he doesn't have that many good moments. He's treated pretty decent overall.
>>142638208 The source of the hacking is phage, Tails doll isn’t doing that anymore. All Tails helps with is giving Nicole the red ring to beat her. You could have had Tails fight like his only enemies in existence instead of giving them all to Sonic and Eggman, then turning Tails into Sonic and Nicole’s cheerleader.
>>142638141 >>142638178 Tails is using his amazing intellect and mechanical skills to fix the Sky Patrol as ordered by Sally. He's not "cowering" from anything, you goddamned fucking shit-brained Tailsfaggot.
>>142638216 They cut off the arm and beat it, it’s gone the rest of the fight. And they’re the only ones soloing every single battle bird that’s attacking. Giving Nicole her superform ring isn’t a substitute for Sonic taking every fight Tails should have.
>>142638241 Fuck off Sonicfaggot, and fuck your cringy gary stu. Tails should be doing more against the goddamn battle birds than giving Nicole her rings while Sonic fights them.
>>142638273 The doll isn't interfering with anything, Phage is. He is doing nothing so that Ian could make Sonic and Antoine beat up all his enemies instead of him.
>>142638190 Remember in the preboot when these guys couldn't hit the broad side of the Death Egg with a homing missile and were the most pathetic mooks in the comic? I'm glad they got upgraded here.
>>142638253 >They cut off the arm Correct >and beat it Wrong. We're reading the same comic, you're not going to come up with your own narrative. The comic cuts away from the fight and we only come back when the Armada retreats with their objective. There is nothing suggesting it was beaten. >And they’re the only ones soloing every single battle bird that’s attacking. You don't know what the word "solo" means do you? I shouldn't be surprised honestly. >Giving Nicole her superform ring isn’t a substitute for Sonic taking every fight Tails should have. How convenient of you to leave out hunting down Tails Doll as well. And I see we've moved from your original premise that he was "cowering and doing nothing". Do you think I have the memory of a goldfish?
>>142638345 See what Rotor is saying: >>142638159 getting Tails Doll was to try and free Nicole, but Phage was attacking Nicole, not Tails Doll. Nothing changed after Tails Doll is gone
>>142638363 Show a single time after its arm is cut off that it appears. The comic shows it gone because it's beaten and they resume beating up the other Battle Birds, while Tails hides in the basement so Sonic can hog all the fighting.
>>142638366 I will say that arguing eats up bumps and make the thread archive faster. If that's what you want then keep going. Let that one person have to resort to replying to themself if they're not already doing that.
>>142638374 Because they don't dicksuck your self-insert's tiny dick? Wahh wahh wahh noone criticise my shitty gary stu and his harem comic, please! Sonicfags are the biggest manbabies on the planet.
>>142638382 Except you seething because you wanna defend Sonic fighting all of Tails' enemies, because you're a self-inserting faggot who thinks Archie is good so long as it sucks off Sonic 24/7.
>>142638365 >getting Tails Doll was to try and free Nicole No, it was to end interference . Also, eliminating a device that allowed Eggman to connect to their system. Fail!
>>142638383 Show a single panel showing it was defeated. You're just making up your own narrative otherwise. >while Tails hides in the basement Kek, going back to the lie isn't going to work.
I mean even if Tails Doll was doing anything instead of Phage, Rotor could probably have just done the tech stuff himself, and Tails fight the Battle Birds instead of Sonic. I didn't like in Preboot where Speedy 1 hit koed Tails so that the same thing happened.
>>142638394 >Because they don't dicksuck your self-insert's tiny dick? Because they have to resort to lies to dicksuck theirs. You can always rely on them to bring cocks into the discussion though.
>>142638413 No, it was to free Nicole. Rotor says it himself: "THAT SHOULD FREE UP NICOLE" But it doesn't, and nothing on the ship changes. You're coping and pathetic, just like all manbaby Sonic self-inserters
>>142638406 >Except you seething You are the only one pulling a tantrum about an imaginary Tails cowering and doing nothing Fail!
>self-inserting There is no self-inserting, only someone complaining about A version of tails that isn't actually in the comic while ignoring what the actual Tails is accomplishing in the comic. Nothing about this is about Sonic Fails.
>>142638421 When they slice off its arm and it's gone from the rest of the entire fight. >I-IT'S A LIE BECAUSE IT BTFOES ME!!! keep crying, Sonicfag. Making Tails cower in the basement while Sonic fights Tails' enemies is SHIT wank from a SHIT comic that sucks off a SHIT gary stu character
>>142638453 Not imaginary, it's right there on the page where SONIC fights them all and Tails does nothing because he's in the basement cowering. Thanks Ian!
Wanting Sonic to fight all of Tails' enemies so Sonic can hog all the fighting while Tails sits and cowers and looks weak makes you a faggot self-inserter. Fuck off wanting Sonic to be wanked in every single story.
>>142638478 Phage does that. Tails pilots a remote control toy to grab a motionless doll that anyone could do, while Sonic fights the giant mech that Tails is supposed to. It's. Shit.
>>142638495 The bullshit theory. If Phage had control of the Sky Patrol, why assist the FF? She wants daddy's favor, not to actively help his enemies beat him. It makes no sense.
>>142638503 the facts of reality is that Sonic fought the battle birds while Tails cowered in a basement. If you want Sonic to be wanked against Tails' enemies while Tails hides, you're a self-inserter and should kys.
>>142638550 >man, i hate the armada And that's the extent of the Tails and BBA rivalry. >>142638495 It seems that it happens later in an unfinished issue.
>>142638533 Because it's in character for Tails to sit on the sidelines against the Battle Birds. How about just...make Sonic lose? And then Tails starts fighting in his stead? Sonic is allowed to lose according to you people right?
>>142638465 >it's gone from the rest of the entire fight. We don't see the rest of the fight. Your proof is literally nothing. You keep crying and seething like you have for years and more years to come Tailsfag.
>>142638436 Rotor was damage controlling the Sky Patrol. And they weren't too much of tow to stop it. Tails was called to do what he does best: being a mechanical and programmer genius.
>>142638590 We see the rest of the fight and see even see aerial shots of them standing there with not a mole mech in sight. They destroyed its only weapon. It's gone. They started beating up the other battle birds once it's gone. They beat up Tails' enemies while Tails cowered in the basement, and you lap it up like a pig because it wanks your cringy gary stu self-insert Sonic, just like all of Ian's morbidly obese run
>>142638597 See, this is why I don't buy that theory at all. Nicole is being her usual helpful self. If this was Phage, she'd be sabotaging the FF's efforts here at this critical juncture.
>>142638540 >Phage does that Are you saying that Phage is the one that connect spay and upload Virus to the Sky Patrol? Do you enjoy being factually wrong? Fail!
>>142638611 Rotor was looking for Tails Doll too, he could've done that himself. Tails should've done what he does best: fucking fighting. >>142638650 Then make them not scrub birds? Can't eblieve the convo is now "Tails can't fight them or Sonic would look weak" Goddamn let Sonic lose for once and let Tails have a win, self-inserters
>>142638560 You have to be doing this for attention and nothing else. I can't even accuse you of being a chatbot because those can create more variety in their postings than anything you ever type.
>>142638684 That janny falseflagging as a Tailsfag pisses me off because I legitimately don’t like the way Ian writes Tails but I don’t self insert as an 8 year old and shit my pants over the title character being relevant.
>>142638738 I would if Tails is the only character to ever beat Eggman, and Eggman declares Tails his true greatest enemy, and Eggman easily beats Sonic to show how much cooler and stronger Tails is than Sonic.
>>142638779 you could stop shitting your pants wanting the "title character" to sideline every other character and steal all of their enemies so Ian can jerk him off 24/7 Relevant is one thing, wanked is another
>>142638742 >>142638784 I especially appreciate that it's clearly the Generations version.
>>142638760 >Sega seems to like the Egg Dragoon as well. Now if only there was a new zone for them to use more often instead of Green Hill. You WILL pretend that some random palm tree is emotionally significant.
>>142638704 >Tails should've done what he does best: fucking fighting.
That's not what he does best. What he does best is being a boy genius that build machines and stuff. In Tails Adventure, he mostly fight the Battlebirds by using machines, devices and weapons he has build.
"And then Sonic beat up Super Finitevus, and Eggman Nega, and Black Doom, and Knuckles and Blaze and Shadow were so inspired by his wisdom that they cheered HIP HIP HOORAY FOR SONIC! The End." - Ian Flynn
>>142638844 One punched! >>142638830 >You WILL pretend that some random palm tree is emotionally significant. Back in my day, the Acorn family tree was emotionally significant! And then that story went nowhere!
>>142638879 >Then make Sonic lose to them Damn, you really have a huge bonner at sonic losing. You know Tails can save the day without Sonic losing, right?
>>142638914 Too bad Tails didn't save the day, and Sonic hogged the fighting. You know if Sonic had any character outside of being a puddle-deep gary stu powerfantasy, other characters could fight opponents he can't, right? The Battle Birds shouldn't be made to look weak just to jack off Sonic, and neither should Tails.
>>142638945 No, he and you are the ones who want Tails hiding in a basement so that Sonic the faggy fanfic gary stu can save the day and beat up all of Tails' villains while Tails fights noone.
>>142638721 >Phage is the virus. thank you for recognising that you were wrong. We are thus in aggreement that Tails Doll was how Eggman connected with the Sky Patrol, spied on it and Uploaded virus to it and was therefore essential to be destroyed.
It's very grown up of you to recognise your mistake.
>>142638956 The jazz music couldn't have started at a better time! >>142638937 Unfortunately I didn't even realize it was daylight savings time. My old Windows clock tells me in advance but Windows 11 doesn't seem to.
>>142638943 >The Battle Birds shouldn't be made to look weak THEY WERE ALREADY SHOWN TO BE WEAK WHEN TAILS BEAT THE FAIRY-FUCKING SHIT OUT OF THEM WITH A ROBOT DOG AND A MINING HAT.
>>142638986 'cept it didn't, because they had a giant battle fortress and flying mech armor and shit. HOLY CRAP Sonic self-inserters now trying to retcon history because they can't handle Tails being shown as competent without their faggy gary stu
>>142638856 I actually like that Tails is not the best but the thing is, not being the best doesn't exactly mean he's bad at it, and when it comes down to it, Tails can actually be rather competent at it, good even. I think that's something that's underrated of him, he's good at many things and tries to keeps up with the best
>>142638970 Did for me cause I come from a land downunda, used to these starting at 10, missed our ever realiably cringe pain in the ass but just catching up on comic
>>142639012 "WAAAH WAAAH WAAAH TAILS CAN'T FIGHT THE BATTLE BIRDS SONIC HAS TO FIGHT THE BATTLE BIRDS SONIC HAS TO DESTROY THEIR FORTRESS AND FUCK EVERY GIRL AND HAVE EVERY OTHER CHARACTER SAY HOW COOL HE IS" - that's you Sonicfags in every game, and every storytime. Fuck off wanting to shit on other characters to wank Sonic 24/7. Tails can fight, he shouldn't be made to look weak so Sonic can fight all his bad guys.
>>142639018 TAILS BEAT THEM WITH NAPALM AND A JET FIGHTER PLANE YOU SONIC SELF-INSERTING MANBABY OTHER CHARACTERS AREN'T WEAK JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT THEM TO BE
>>142637848 >Question OVA since it ends with them running off for another adventure and because everyone else already picked SA2 >>142637871 I forgot ;_;
>>142639018 Not to mention bombing them with napalm. Remember, it's not a war crime if it's against nazis. Also, Tails' Sky Patrol happened in the continuity, and Wendy is way more powerful here.
>>142639055 Against his own enemies? YES TAILS SHOULD BE A MAIN CHARACTER. RETARD. >>142639053 That makes Tails strong, not them weak. Fuck off Sonic self-inserter
>>142639136 Nope, it's an established fact that they were strong, and only self-inserting Sonicfags want them to look weak because they can't handle it.
>>142639131 Oh boy I sure hope all the FF are gonna contribute to beating this thing, and totally aren't gonna cower on the sidelines while Sonic does everything...
>>142639116 >God just told Sonic the Hedgehog that Satan has awakened ... It really kinda kits you sometimes how much the comic plays up the severity of the crisis compared to the game.
>>142639153 Except in Tails Adventure, when he was strong and was strong on his own. >>142639164 Who are the main antagonists? They're there, they're fighting, they're talking, and they don't even meet Tails.
>>142639150 >it's an established fact that they were strong Because they beat by the child with no experience and confidence issues? How does that work?
Also Dark Enerjak was way weaker than regular Enerjak because I, a Sonicfag, cannot handle the thought that other characters like Silver beat strong enemies.
>>142639004 >they could do that later >allowing Eggman to keep spying and upload more virus or do more hacking to the Sky patrol. We got a galaxy brain, there.
>>142638120 The battle armor's pretty cool, especially the wing jets >>142638366 F. Clearly Nicole could never survive that! >>142638390 Imagine being double teamed by Bark and Bearenger!
>>142639282 He had no confidence issues in Tails Adventure, he fought them and never cowered off. "Experience" has never been an issue for anyone. Sonic had no experience fighting Eggman in Sonic 1 either.
>>142638459 That's not how it went in the games! Eggman you're cheating! >>142638576 >And that's the extent of the Tails and BBA rivalry. Well, it is an all ages comic. I wouldn't mind seeing a Punisher Max-style comic with Tails though!
>>142639230 >Also Dark Enerjak was way weaker than regular Enerjak They were the same strength. If you bothered to remember Sonic never beat Enerjak, Locke sacrificed himself to break the spell on Knuckles. If he hadn't, the same result would have happened. Also, Silver never beat Dark Enerjak either, Jani-Ca used the Sword of Acorn to freeze him and stole his power. All Silver did was distract him long enough for her to get under his guard. Nice try anyway.
>>142639329 People complaining that it's a good thing Sonic beats all of Tails' enemies instead of him, and that Tails' enemies should be made weak so that Sonic can beat them all without Tails? Nah, that's every one of the self-inserters here.
>>142639166 Do you get this pissy and whiny when Mario, Mega Man, Fox McCloud, Crash Bandicoot, Shantae, etc are the ones who fight and defeat their enemies instead of their side characters?
>>142639358 Everyone else is spent. >>142639346 >Well, it is an all ages comic. I wouldn't mind seeing a Punisher Max-style comic with Tails though! Would even Frank commit war crimes?
>>142639346 It would be that issue where Frank fights the mob wives, gets knocked out by that random lady then she steals his jacket and punishes everyone better than he can. Except replace the lady with Sonic.
>>142639192 I love Dark Gaia's initial form. I despise its Perfect form. Fucking Sega. Also Dark Gaia is one of Ian's Top Five Least-Liked Sonic Characters.
>>142639376 It’s fine for the story, just amusing in hindsight. It’s just funny that the last appearance of The Freedom Fighters is them sitting on their asses being pointless. What a send off.
>>142639358 >Final bosses always have to be able to hurt a super form in some way. Gotta have tension somehow. Besides, Super Sonic just took a full blast from literally Satan. Fair enough.
>>142639376 Yeah, I kinda have to agree. While I'm always in favor of keeping the whole team relevant, realistically there's not a whole lot they can do. What, are they gonna take potshots at Satan? For once, I'm okay with just letting Sonic handle it. Although he is teaming up with God for this, which helps.
>>142639376 >>142639452 They can just do something better? Disrupt Dark Gaia's energy with tech? Use magic to counteract it? Get pseudo-superforms with light gaia energy? The pen lets you write anything you goddamn want.
Sonic shouldn't handle it while everybody else is made to be useless just to jack him off. He gets too much of that already, fuck Sonic.
>>142639003 This actually does highlight an idea I always loved that the Egg Dragoon was made to be a Sonic counter initially but Sonic going Werehog hard counters it's entire design
>>142639407 Look at Rotor being the chillest nigga in the world! And yeah, like I said, he's got a point. Much as I loathe the cheerleader shit, it's not like the other FFs can really do anything right now.
>>142639489 Yeah, just benched for the only fight of any importance. But they got to take potshots at little mooks that don't do anything, how quaint. It's like batman shooting at Parademons in Justice League while Superman saved the day all by himself.
>>142639527 >Get pseudo-superforms with light gaia energy? Like in Heroes? Hm, that would admittedly be pretty cool, actually. Thing is, I could totally see Sega being the fun police and rejecting that idea. They do that a lot.
>>142639527 >Disrupt Dark Gaia's energy with tech? So they become better than Eggman now? >Use magic to counteract it? Nobody has that. >Get pseudo-superforms with light gaia energy? Not a thing. >The pen lets you write anything you goddamn want. If this was your own work sure, but it's not.
>>142639275 >Eggman's not even there He is the main antagonist regardless. Battlebirds are just mooks obeying eggman's order. Wait for a story that actually focus on them.
>>142639363 It's funny that you mention Mario first because all you need to do is watch the Mario movie to see how miserable Tails is when compared to Luigi who not only saves Mario's life at the end despite starting off as a coward but also teams up with him again Bowser during the final battle.
Sonic cannot inspire a single good thing in Tails unlike Mario does to his brother.
>>142639424 Did you shit yourself this hard when you played Sonic Heroes and only Team Sonic could fight Metal Overlord? Or Generations when only Sonic and Sonic could fight Time Eater?
>>142639465 Yeah, ignore everything they did beforehand do so you can indulge in your tranny persecution complex over fictional animals.
>>142639615 Tails can do stuff Eggman can't in the games. Rotor beat Eggman's tech in Reboot. Chip's plotline can give them access to magic in the story. You can make that a thing. Reboot already did tons of shit that the Unleashed game didn't do.
>>142639644 No, because every team beat Metal Sonic's intial phase except Team Sonic. And Generations WAS shit, yes. Even Shadow got turned into Sonic's shitty cheerleader. >Yeah, ignore everything they did beforehand LMAO LIKE WHAT? They didn't do fucking anything against Dark Gaia
>>142639192 This has always been one of my all time final boss themes, honestly Unleashed was a good game that has the misfortune of releasing when being hip to shit on Sonic was fresh
>>142639555 This, why didn't they all sprout wings and fly up to the Chaos Emeralds and all become Super then snap Sonic's neck and tap dance on Dark Gaia until it explodes in rainbows and confetti?
>>142639691 I see Sonic has his hands on the two most important people to him. Confirmed. >>142639685 A nice little workaround by referring to earth as in the ground but close enough.
>>142639358 Dark Gaia is still probably one of the strongest foes in the canon I'd wager, wouldn't mind an Unleashed remake where he gets a Frontiers sequel hype boss fight
>>142639713 Or just contribute in any way. Fuck off wanting them to be useless to jack off your gary stu, sonic self-inserter. Plot lets you do anything and write anything
>>142639654 >Tails can do stuff Eggman can't in the games. No he can't. Eggman can do whatever Tails can. >Chip's plotline can give them access to magic in the story. It does not. >You can make that a thing. Only according to you.
>>142639679 So your problem is this one specific thing is what they can't be part of due to not being gods themselves, so you reject everything else they've done like a spoiled petty little piece of shit in order to continue your insane crusade of faggotry.
>>142639746 FOUR THREADS REMAIN Tomorrow at 7pm EST or whatever 22 hours from now is for you. We'll do the Sonic Universe arc that will bookend this last arc.
>>142639756 Tails in Lost World hacked a computer to do something Eggman said couldn't be possible. And in Prime also does things Eggman can't do, and improves his tech. Rotor also beat out Eggman's tech in Reboot. Chip's involvement in the plot can grant them access to magic plots anytime the writer writes that in. Ian has never said Sega forced him to sideline the other cast.
>>142639718 And then a third Genesis Wave was launched from a small American town named Riverdale and completely obliterated Archie Sonic’s World. In his dying moments Archie Sonic recalls his past adventures before being erased for good this time.
>>142639733 >>142639746 Overall, I thought it was a pretty damn good story. Had some flaws here and there of course, but it actually felt like a proper global crisis. Our heroes acted like heroes, and saved the day in a satisfying manner. I still love the reboot, and no amount of shitposting will change that.
>>142639764 The one specific thing, which is the only thing in the entire story of any significance. Sonic's not "one of the gods themselves", he's a character on a team.
Sonicfags like you are the only "spoiled petty little pieces of shit" if you cry and cry at the very thought of the other cast contributing instead of your shitty gary stu self-insert
>>142639418 The shadowy quality to it's imperfect form was really cool. They should've built on that instead of eyeball tongues >>142639460 Damn Chip! >>142639478 It totally is >>142639483 >Is electrocuting someone's balls with a car battery a war crime? I'd call it a typical Friday night
>I’m going to read a Superman comic >but I absolutely despise Superman and I’m going to seethe and shit my pants uncontrollably everytime he wins >I’m going to bitch the entire time that Jimmy Olsen isn’t treated as a giga chad who fucks all women What even causes this autism? Why are you even here?
>>142639797 Having a few great moments matters way more than being there for a good chunk of the story doing nothing. If anything, the second scenario even depreciates the character, and that's exactly what happens in Tails' case.
>>142639849 All heroes are Mary Sues. They always beat the villains. They always tell people to be strong, be proud, and be free. They always shine as beacons of goodness and light.
>>142639877 Incredible how DC can so easily write around this every single crisis, but when it comes time for the Ian Defence Force it's suddenly absolutely impossible that any other character could've even helped Sonic. It's totally not Ian being a hack
>>142638495 >>142638543 >>142638576 I didn't get the chance to post that comic in the thread that covered the Universe arc that introduced Phage, so I might as well post it here.
>>142639910 I mean at least Sonic Universe aliviated that for a while, if they got spin off games that could be a fun way to have them be independent for a while
>>142639543 I think it was good to show that while Rotor worries about the big picture, he knows not to worry about things out of his control >>142639568 Skelly does a great job of both slapstick and dramatic poses >>142639581 The HD boss battle was more fun, but I liked the ST version's Werehog combat more >>142639583 >Sega Presents Sonic Team's Sonic Unleashed's Sonic's World lmao
>>142639890 Of course they're not gonna show it onscreen, dumb dumb. It happened offscreen, and that's the obvious implicit intention behind saying they slept together in the woods
>>142639801 >Tails in Lost World hacked a computer to do something Eggman said couldn't be possible. That's not what he said. >And in Prime Non-canon. >Rotor also beat out Eggman's tech in Reboot. In a robot fight, that has nothing to do with actual capabilities. >Chip's involvement in the plot can grant them access to magic plots Just because you keep saying that doesn't make it true.
>>142639921 >Incredible how DC can so easily write around this every single crisis No they don't lmao. Every crisis is stopped by one or two characters while everyone else is useless by the home stretch.
>>142639949 That's literally what he said, he said the computer can't possibly be reversed, then Tails reversed it anyway to Eggman's shock. Prime was said by Ian and developers to be canon. Fights have to do with capabilities. Chip is a magic god. The plot can do anything. Chip can give them magic.
>>142639950 The Imperiex saga had dozens of characters pitching in, Batkek as well, Darkseid's whole death was a sequence of different characters injuring him, Cosmic Odysey ended on a pentagram of different characters fighting Anti Life, etc
>>142639893 >>I’m going to read a Justice League comic >>but I absolutely despise every character except green lantern and I’m going to seethe and shit my pants uncontrollably everytime anyone else but Green Lantern contributes anything >>I’m going to bitch the entire time that Green Lantern isn’t treated as a giga chad who fucks all women What even causes this autism? Why are you even here? It's funnier because self-inserting Sonicfags literally want "treated as a giga chad who fucks all women" to be true, and want other characters to be cucked to make it happen.
>>142639979 It's funny, boco was harmless and somewhat positively interacting the storytimes funnily enough, said stupid thing here and there but mostly inoffensive
>>142639668 >JK, there's your Earth reference. I can't believe Sega didn't execute Flynn for that one! >>142639718 >I see Sonic has his hands on the two most important people to him. Confirmed. What a slut! >>142639733 >EXIT CHIP ;_; >>142639787 Thanks Konductor!
>>142639979 Stop crying just because people wanted the FF - the main characters of the goddam book - to pitch in. Sonic self-inserters are the worst. You want every character but your gary stu to be cheerleaders.
>>142639943 >It happened offscreen Ah, making things up, got it. > and that's the obvious implicit intention behind saying they slept together Neither of them even actually said that they were "sleeping together", anon. So much for your "implicit intention, anon.
>>142639997 He wasn't depreciated because the reason why he got caught was due to bad luck, of being sent straight into the middle of Bowser's domain, instead of incompetence or weakness.
This kind of nuance is what allows a character to go through bad moments but still remain heroic.
Forces Tails is a perfect example of the complete opposite where the writing demolishes any hint of heroism within his character.
>>142640070 Because I want the FF to help??? You're fucking delusional. People aren't "shitposting" or "derailing" just because they don't want your gary stu ruining every other character
>>142640074 It's clear from how satisfied Scourge looks and how regretful Bunnie looks and the fact they feel asleep with eachother after the start of their makeout
>>142639969 >That's literally what he said He did not. He told them it couldn't be shut off unless he reprogrammed it. Nothing about it being impossible to do. >Fights have to do with capabilities. Fights do not rule capabilities. >Chip is a magic god. He is not. He is a light spirit. Nothing about granting magic to people. You made that up.
>>142640098 He says once it reaches full power it can't be shut off. Tails shuts it off after it reaches full power. Fights belay capabilities Then give light spirit magic to them. Doi.
>>142639903 We see them a bit in the Sonic Universe arc tomorrow, we see them as kids in an issue of Genesis of a Hero, there's the recovered Sonic Universe issue with Antoine, and various unfinished stuff with them. We got plenty more Freedom Fighters right up until the end of this ride.
>>142640037 >the person who spends every thread he infects crying and whining about his pedo-target fuckboy tells other people to "stop crying" about him Projection is a powerful force.
>>142640138 Yeah but at that point in the story Mario himself wouldn't have done any better. If you choose to ignore this you're just being delusional.
>>142640004 Gasp! >>142640014 lmao >>142640039 No, but he's called Sir Connery if you want to look it up >>142640093 That was a pretty interesting take on the standard corruption fic
>>142640160 Not him, take pills. And you should know, considering you're now complaining that you want Sonic to do everything while every other character should be reduced to his cheerleaders.
>>142640135 >He says once it reaches full power it can't be shut off. Yes, which is why he needed to go and reprogram the shut off sequence. He never said it would be impossible for him to do. >Fights belay capabilities Fights stop capabilities? What? >Then give light spirit magic to them Not a thing Chip can do. Again, stop making things up.
>>142640197 No, the FF are the main characters of the book and Sonic is one of them. They shouldn't be his cheerleaders no matter how much you want them to be. Fuck off self-inserter.
>>142640145 >Mario and Mega Man don't do this Mega Man is the only person who even fights the villains. No, Bass and Proto Man in MM&B, 9, and 10 are not canon. Mario is the only one who canonically defeats Bowser.
>>142640208 Which is why he says he needs to BEFORE it reaches full power. Tails manages to do it after, which he said is impossible. Belay, american way of spelling Belie, which means demonstrate. Fights with tech demonstrate one's aptitude with tech. >Not a thing Chip can do Source? He does tons of things in the comic he doens't do in the game.
>>142638459 Gonna assume Chip couldn't control his powers here, which is odd since in the games, after he got his memories back, he had full control. Weird.
>>142640215 >the FF are the main characters of the book They aren’t they’re the supporting cast. When Sonic comes back from space half of them get benched. When Rotor gets hurt in #175 he gets benched.
>>142640222 Bass and Proto Man are all playable, I don't give a shit what you think is "canon" or not, they take part. And luigi has an entire sidestory in galaxy and an entire game series all about himself
>>142639988 >dozens of characters pitching in The same way the FF pitched in by raiding Eggmanland and the Death Egg. Only one character beats the final boss. Imperiex was beaten by Superman, Batkek was beaten entirely by Wonder Woman, etc.
>>142640245 --because Sonicfags are so insecure they wanna write a comic about Sonic getting a harem and cucking every other guy, because they're the real self-inserters
>>142640248 When Sonic comes back from space they have an entire arc where they all beat the bad guy without Sonic. Bunnie takes out a helicarrier with nukes. Tails outsmarts ADAM. Shadow goes for Eggman. Rotor's back was more Ianshit that happened way later.
>>142640261 Nope. Many characters fought the final bosses. Imperiex was beaten by a combo of Brainiac, Darkseid, Tempest and Superman, Batkek was beaten by a combo of Prime and Wondy and Hawkman and his AntiMonitor bomb by Batman and Joker, etc
>>142640239 >Which is why he says he needs to BEFORE it reaches full power He never said that. You're adding words not there to change the context. All he said that it won't be able to be shut off once it reaches full power, smashing it would lead to a cataclysm, and that he needs Sonic to get past the Zeti so he could get to it. Nothing about it being impossible. >Fights with tech demonstrate one's aptitude with tech. They do not rule them. >Source? The fact he does not do it once.
>>142640257 I'm the one with the victim complex? You've spend this entire thread screaming that Tails was cowering in an engine room because Ian hates him so much he won't let him fight "his enemies" or fuck any of the women in the comic.
>>142640275 Except for you, since you still shill for Ian's shitty comic as being good and whine when anyone criticises your shitty character for that. Because you only want the comic to jack off Sonic and shit on every other character, 24/7.
>>142640161 >Yeah but at that point in the story Mario himself wouldn't have done any better. Which is just depreciating Mario to prop up Peach but that's another whole thing.
>>142639787 Thanks Conductor. Overall I pretty much enjoyed this adaption of Unleashed's story. Completely different, but an interesting arrangement of the pieces while mixing it with the reboot Archie setting. Can't believe it's the final actually finished Archie Sonic arc.
>>142640313 >Nothing about it being impossible. Even Tails says he did something Eggman said he couldn't. Ad Verbatim: "Tails: It's cool. Oh, and here's something that even Eggman couldn't do. I just reprogrammed this machine to return our world's stolen energy. In your face, Eggman." They do imply them when there's nothing to imply otherwise Chip does many things he doesn't do int he game, so you can write him doing anything more
I hate how even Goku constantly gets help when fighting big threats, even if he still screams really loud and wins at the end. But wanting Sonic to be more like that seems to be some sort of mortal sin.
>>142640322 No, I've spent this thread saying the FF should help fight the bad guy, and now you're in a hissy fit because you want your puddle-deep gary stu to be a gary stu and them to be his cheerleaders for your powerfantasy
>>142640390 There's still the last two Sonic Universe arcs, the 3/4's of Sonic Mega Drive and the 3/4's of the last Archie Sonic arc. Archie Ride is very close to done though.
>>142639299 >... Is it bad that I unironically want that to be a thing? That is what Dark Gaia should look like. No because I kind of wanted it too. To be this little Devil on Eggman's shoulder telling him about gathering the energy, only to backstab him and return to his original form.
>>142640407 It ruins their self-insert fantasy if Sonic isn't a gary stu and other characters get to look cool Same shit that ruined the games, Sonic has the worst fanboys in Sonic
>>142637848 Thread's at the bump limit already? Christ >Question: Whether it’s a story in a comic, game, show, or movie, what’s your favorite Sonic ending? Common answer, but SA2's ending is hard to beat
I'll say it now, as much as I have enjoyed many aspect of this reboot, I still think the loss of characters and existing arcs is too much of a price to pay for what we got.
And the character redesign of Sally and Bunnie is just a no. Bunnie's robotic limb just look like regular mobian limbs painted grey and of course, her lack of cheek tufts is just not working for me.
And Sally's face is just so, well, bland, without her preboot feature. Her face look like te most generic mobian face possible. It's just such a shame, when what we had before was perfection.
>>142640393 >Even Tails says he did something Eggman said he couldn't According to Tails. It has nothing to do with what Eggman could actually do. >They do imply them Which is not ruling them. Thanks for agreeing. >Chip does many things he doesn't do int he game And he doesn't give magic in the games or comic. >so you can write him doing anything more Not how it works.
>>142639543 They did hold off the Death Egg from getting the Dark Gaia Energy. At least whatever was left that COULD have been turned into fuel. Not useless overall, but clearly not having a hand in the true final battle.
Kingdom Come superman needs Shazam to save them from the nuke Dark Knight Returns batman needs Green Arrow to shoot the kryptonite Gods and Mortals wonder woman needs harmonia and athena to outsmart Ares
but apparently it only becomes a problem when you imply to a sonicfag that the other cast should help their mary sue self-insert
Hypothetical question to our special friend: If we stop storytiming here on /co/, what will you do with yourself when you find there's no storytime thread to shit up? I can't imagine shitposting in /sthg/'s much fun, since it's expected. The IDW and Sonic bait threads haven't been doing very well lately, with some IDW storytimes not even reaching the bump limit. No need to answer, I suppose we'll find out soon enough >>142640491 Huh. I've got no idea then
>>142640504 Unless you see something in the plot establishing that Tails is lying or exaggerating, you're being obtuse. It's a simple game where they say what they mean. >Which is not ruling them. Evidence >>> Lack of evidence. Tech being superior in a fight is evidence for being superior overall >And he doesn't give magic in the games or comic he does in the comic >Not how it works Exactly how it works lol. You can write anything you please, as long as you don't cry at the thought of other characters contributing
So the desolation of Archie Sonic (and others) can basically be boiled down to two things. >Ken Penders being a total fucking autist about his "ownership" of Knuckles and all the lore he made up for him plus all the characters he made >Worlds Unite being an absolute money pit of a crossover that overpayed on licenses and wasted four issues of each running Archie Action series, while Sonic 06'ing itself out of existence at its end, with Paul Kaminski, the editor-in-chief who actually asked for it in the first place, leaving for DC after it was done Shame the Archie Sonic comics had so many people that directly or indirectly were trying to kill it.
wonder why Tailsfag and FFfag skipped so many other threads then both came into this one together to turn the place into a shit pile, you think they'd have been in every thread of the ride tantruming about Sonic being the main character
>>142640572 It's less "why did archie die" and more "why did archie still exist." The grim reaper called its ticket back when SATAM was cancelled but it endured against the universe's entropy.
>>142640595 >FFfag Oh boy so...most people who like Archie??? And Satam. You don't gotta be a particular fag to want the FF to be more than cheerleaders.
>>142640540 >Unless you see something in the plot establishing that Tails is lying or exaggerating The fact the stroyline was him being jealous of Sonic letting Eggman help. He's full of himself the whole game. Sonic also calls himself the fastest and other people have disproven that. >Evidence >>> Lack of evidence Lack of good evidence. Implications is not hard evidence of anything. >he does in the comic He does not. >You can write anything you please In your own work. This does not belong to you.
>>142640623 Well yeah, the Archie Sonic comic going for as long as it did was basically an anomaly. Changing into what it became because it wanted to offer a replacement for SatAM after it was cancelled.
>>142640685 He has the basis if the story says it has the basis, unless you're some retard who thinks the backyardigans plot is doing some 4d chess where you have to imply truth and untruth. Prime is canon by every single creator who has ever been asked about this.
>>142640603 I'm not ignoring any facts. I'm not the one who said Eggman said something was impossible to prop someone up. Just because I don't lift Tails to these delusional standards you want does not mean I hate him.
Sonic should fight every bad guy, including other characters' spinoff enemies. Sonic should do everything, only Sonic should be allowed to be cool, only Sonic should be allowed to find love. Every other character should only exist to worship and buttkiss Sonic, and if Sonic is not onscreen they should all ask "WHEEEEEEEEERE'S SONIC?!"
>>142640677 crying lesbians are worse then nothing happening which is worse then Sega Pirate TV and a few of the post #100 Fleetway stories which are worse then Sonic doing everything
>>142640729 Dunno, probably just gonna go with "Tails couldn't used the regular Emeralds", but since Sega made the game they could have just given Tails a Super form in this game.
>>142640766 By being declared as canon? Yes. The games "break canon" all the damn time. Sonic periodically has games set inside his various houses then pretends to be homeless to sound cool.
>>142640781 The story doesn't imply Tails says stuff about him that's a lie, needing to then insist Tails lies about himself is a huge cope. His previous brag about hacking with a toothpick is even proven true onscreen.
Batman Begins - Jim Gordon destroys Ras' train Dark Knight - Jim Gordon masterminds Joker's arrest, saves the mayor and has his own archenemy Dark Knight Rises - Arabic prison wizard saves the day with his spine-healing magic
>>142640801 >His previous brag about hacking with a toothpick is even proven true onscreen. He used the toothpick to click on the keyboard. He also bragged about building a tv out of paper clips. Both are obvious exaggerations that leave out crucial context. This is surrounded by him being jealous and up his own bum the whole game. The only cope here is you trying to tell us to ignore context.
>>142640912 They aren't obvious exaggerations, they literally use the toothpick to echo his brag about hacking with a toothpick. He doesn't even need detergent to do this one, if anything it's more impressive than he described. There is no context to ignore, the context is that Tails is vindicated in telling the truth about his accomplishments, and now you're coping saying that Tails is a liar because you're insecure over the fact he proved he does what he says.
>>142640938 No, since it's canon and the shatterverses are still there, it's just that plot doesn't matter anymore, but it still happened. Nine is just Tails in a darker timeline.
>>142640949 >it's more impressive than he described >using a toothpick as an stylus is impressive now No wonder you guys praise Tails so much. Him breathing stuns you.
>>142640971 >character says he can hack a computer with a toothpick >"H-HE'S LYING! HE'S MAKING IT UP!" >character hacks a computer using a toothpick, exactly as he said Incredible the pure mental gymnastics self-inserting Sonicfags will do to downplay Tails (and any and every other character for that matter)
>>142640975 the difference is that Superman is a real character and a good character. Sonic is a corporate mascot whose fans self-insert into him and use him as a powerfantasy. They mald if you imply he shouldn't be a gary stu in every single scene.
>>142641024 You know something, there was a comic plotline where Superman was supposed to seduce Big Barda - Scott Free's wife, and cuck Mister Miracle. And it was actually the main Superman author at the time who broke in the door and made them stop, because he respected Scott Free enough that he didn't want them to use Superman to ruin him, and respected Superman enough he didn't want them to use him as a shitty pervy harem avatar.
That's the difference between a real character (Superman) and a vapid empty fanfiction self-insert (Sonic)
>>142640328 The story also handles that somewhat well by having Peach be someone who had a lifetime of experience in comparison to Mario who was completely new, and still getting quickly outpaced by him as the movie progresses. This does get undermined a bit by her saying that she beat the course in her first try.
>>142641144 Reimagining the end of archie as a Superman story: >Superman flies back to crashed Skypatrol while Chip is holding off Dark Gaia >Tells them they need to work together to stop it and he needs their help >Mentions some science mumbo jumbo how the ship works on manipulating gravity >Asks Tails and Rotor if they can design a way for the ship to increase gravity around Dark Gaia, they say they can >Asks Sally and Amy if they'll fight Dark Gaia's eyes to injure it, they bravely say yes >Superman asks them to lead the way as he helps them the best he can >Flings Amy and Sally at DG's face, while supporting from afar with heat vision and freeze breath >Uses super speed to follow Rotor's instructions and reverse the Skypatrol's repulsors >Tails and Superman steer/fly ship into Dark Gaia's head >Gravity is increased around Dark Gaia, speeding up the passage of time around it >Its time awake passes and it falls back into slumber inside the earth, the natural balance restored
>>142641328 Never did that, either, so I have no idea what faggotry you and your ilk keep shrieking about. I thought Chris-Chan's autism was legendary, but you people exceeded him tenfold.
>>142641349 No, they did. Cucked Antoine with that tiger lady. Tried to cuck Ash with Mina. Cucked Antoine again by getting with Bunnie while he was trapped on Moebius. Cucked Tails with Fiona. Had a whole faggy arc trying to take Sally from Fake!Antoine
>>142641448 Sonicfags would cry and squeal like pigs if you did that because they can't handle Sonic losing or handle any other character fighting or looking cool
>>142641410 It's kind of sad that Sonic had one of the best girls in the series as his love interest coming from SatAM but Archie tore that down completely to the point where many would rather just have Sally be a lesbian.
>>142641526 Go away Tails you're weak and pathetic and can't do anything to them. Sonic destroyed their fortress, not you, remember? That's why they think Sonic is their archenemy and not you.
