Sonic Boom #10 (WU #10), Sonic #275 (WU #11), and Mega Man #52 (WU #12) This is it! The end of the massive crossover event that thankfully didn’t kill Archie but undoubtedly killed their interest in licensed titles! The recruitment process begins as Sigma’s mavericks target worlds filled with heroes and even villains willing to set aside differences to join forces against a common multiversal threat. It will take everyone and then some to stop Sigma and save everyone’s worlds. But what if it’s not enough?
Not a Question: Rate the event now or later. I’ll (hopefully) remember to ask at the end of this.
>be me >not book smart, but money smart >moreintelligent.jpg >my name? Mr. Rock Festival >Why? I got hella bands >The short girl was cute and her circle was too >I told her to get a friend >She made me slide with my dog like I'm >mega man
>>142552361 Oh, it's that thing. >>142552337 Sticks has the advantage of being a cute girl. Bean should be a cute girl. >>142552348 Yes. Then Sonic Boom and Mega Man. Then the rest of Archie Sonic. The end is nigh.
>>142552376 >Sticks has the advantage of being a cute girl. Bean should be a cute girl. Being a cute girl would not make Bean more tolerable, I would still hate him all the same.
>>142552402 >the main female character is named "Rolly" >in Japanese, her name could be either "Rolly" as in what she does with eggs, or "Loli" as a descriptor That's a pretty clever name.
>>142552376 Ayooo Gore Magala, love how they went with him of all beasties to represent Monster Hunter instead of Rathalos or Zinogre. Though this is a bit inaccurate as he isn’t an elder dragon….yet
>>142552327 >Question: 5 out of 10 Downsides: >Piss poor art from the main books on the first two arcs >actual characterization is low to non existent >Xander of all character is granted importance yet has no real presence or screen time >Sticks drags two extras because they just HAD to include more than one Boom representative >killing off team Dark in attempt to raise the stakes >the extra cameos from Sega and Capcom characters that cause the company to bleed money
Positives >A handful of funny or cute moments >The art from most Battle Book stories >Knuckles vs Breakman >the final boss
>>142552462 Burn Dinorex is pretty much one of the coolest mavericks on account of being a dinossur, shame there weren’t that many lady mavericks in the games
>>142552462 I have no idea who any of these people are. Out of all these crossovers I only played Street Fighter, Nights, and got filtered by Ghost and Goblins. I can only imagine how disinterested a kid who never played these ancient games would be. Kaminski seriously thought this would increase sales?
>>142552461 Have a running gag of Mordred Hood trying to hypnotise women from other properties to failed results, serious answer is just shorten it and scale it down significantly
>>142552461 >drop the extra Sega and Capcom characters >Make it so that whole thing took place on the Lost Hex where Sigma was taking over to bring back the Skull Egg Zone sort of angle of combine series level aesthetics >don't kill team dark >have it so at the end, Sonic, Rock, Shadow, and X go Super to take out Sigma
>>142552572 And she's gone. >>142552562 That was the cover of the next Sonic Universe issue. We still have to finish this event and get back to the normal stories for the various comics. Not to mention I did say in that very post that we were finishing this event.
>>142552610 >reploid women Don't remind me, I'd throw away all of these crossovers in the trash even for one Navigator. Hell, have Alia angst from seeing her ex-boyfriend again or something.
>>142552603 >That was the cover of the next Sonic Universe issue. To be fair, I think the story would read better is the Silver Saga had been published before World Unite.
>>142552641 God Alia should of been playable more in the series, also god her design is so good. Funny enough quite like her chemistry with X, no idea why Hyoumaru ships her with Dynamo though of all mavericks when Gate is there, speaking of shame he couldn’t of been main villain going forward.
>>142552699 Okay, what the fuck is up with the baby versions of characters in diapers? It's been submitted several times now, and I KNOW about the diaper/scat fetish, which is what I'm sure this is all about. It just unnerves me knowing they're being submitted by kids.
>>142552710 >Finale to the series that literally just started a year ago If I it wasn't for Archie Nights only being 6 issues total I'd call that the shortest run I ever did see
>>142552734 One cast! >>142552727 Bill is rightfully annoyed. His show gets cut off at two seasons and the comic based on the show gets screwed over in various ways.
>>142552744 Two cast pages! Ah, ah, ah! >>142552738 Nights was two minis. It wasn't intended to be more than that and I'm surprised the first one did well enough to get a second one.
>>142552721 >Reminder that the Deadly Six were in the Sky Patrol when Sigma destroyed it Weren't they more on top of it? They could have jumped on Sigma. Not that it would matter, in the end...
>>142552801 If they recruited Plesioth they woulda just hipcheck looped Sigma and won with no other recruits needed. Also yeah that tends to happen in Sonic, monster trumps named villain in the setting lol
>>142552834 I know this is all big dumb shit and it ultimately leads to the death of all these Archie action comics but let's enjoy the fun bits and pieces.
>>142552848 Because these pages are just a bunch of team ups and hectic action. >>142552843 They're gonna have to suck it up and be the better people to help protect their and everyone else's worlds.
>>142552844 In all honesty, something like this would've worked in game form much more, given that it would've had much more planning with a larger team and actual interactivity
>>142552844 I actually DID want an adventure with all the characters, and actual interaction between all of them. That would've actually been pretty cool.
>>142552856 They only wanted Subspace 2.0 because they had memory holed the excessive amount of platform levels with annoying enemies just sporadically parsed with the actual fights the Smash gameplay was designed for in the first place.
>>142552844 Smash Bros has gaming all-stars, people basically treat it as the gaming hall of fame. World’s Unite has D-list franchises like Billy Hatcher and Breath of Fire.
>>142552901 >platform levels with annoying enemies Not that anon but my problem was that they made weird OCs for some reason instead of leaning into Nintendo enemies Like come on, these dudes should've been Voltorb and Electrode
>>142552940 I sorta liked Melee's Adventure Mode having levels from other Nintendo games. A Zelda II temple, an escape segment from Metroid in Zebes, an F-Zero racetrack. I would've liked Smash Ultimate to have a huge adventure crossover with all these characters going around equally familiar worlds, and even enemies.
>>142552971 Don't you just love the villain pulling out another form that make the previous fight completely pointless? Also, this is just a recolor of X5 Sigma, the best Sigma design.
>>142553011 ACKSHUALLY WE HAD THE LE HECKIN CHAOS EMERALDS THE ENTIRE TIME (So all of the crossover characters were pointless and didn’t contribute to anything) WE WERE JUST WASTING YOUR TIME
>>142553035 >the gathered army does jack against Final Sigma >just use the Emerald they had all along to give Sonic and Mega their god form Aren't you glad we spent an entire issue on recruitment?
>>142553035 So what did this issue do to justify it's larger size because it's a milestone issue? By reprinting the story right before Worlds Unite where Sonic and Silver fight Ifrit! So we'll skip that.
>>142552461 Sonic/Megaman Crossover with cameos by X and various Boom characters. The idea of getting OTHER Capcom titles over at Archie is worth looking into, but a great big, expensive crossover wasn't the way to start. It would've been better to sell Megaman and Sonic, and let the results talk Capcom (and heck, Sega) into licensing other books.
>>142553031 Yes but he will come back lol, it’s fucking Sigma, cunt can’t stay dead even when x6 shoulda not had him though also would rather a new villain and they followup on the Axl infection tease
>>142553035 The Final Battle could've at least be Super Sonic, Super Mega Man, Ultimate Armor X, Golden Armor Arthur, Super Shadow and Kaiser Dragon Ryu vs. Sigma-3.
>>142553059 I don't mind the virus plotline, but it really reached its conclusion in X5, with X6 literally being his shambling corpse brought out for a pathetic display
>>142553044 Perhaps, but in a weird way I also kind of love it. It's just so thematically perfect. Capcom says they just ran out of budget or whatever but the last frame of the game they wanted to rub it in. And it was great. The whole conflict between Ryu and Fou lu is just elevated by actually having a bastard like Yuna still out there in the end instead of the just having the typical "Are humans bad or good argument" after all the bad guys have been killed off. It's wonderful.
>>142552971 >>142552981 >>142552993 >The villain has reached his final form! Time for him to waste the others while our main heroes find a way to go Super to match his strength
While what Sigma does here is cool the story has been so lame that this feels very hollow not to mention this happened in the last Cross over too but it was more entertaining because the villains literally shot themselves in the foot and had to work together to fix it
Here it just feels like some kids generic dbz inspired fan fic
>>142553011 >>142553035 So this entire thing was fucking pointless, and once again none of Sonic and Rock’s shitty friends contribute anything, because Sonic will get the chaos emeralds and solo everybody while everyone else cheerleads for him Great. Gotta love that peak Sonicslop writing. Just as yummy as the first 1000 times you got fed this shit
>>142553035 This part reminds me of the finale for Metal Virus. A long story that’s saved by a Super Sonic asspull that made the rest of the characters’ struggles seem pointless.
>>142553082 Which is basically just Sigma coming back anyway, especially since he gets a new physical body to fight every game. I wasn't really a fan of the Sigma virus thing starting from X2, and seeing the wireframe stuff. Felt kinda like, "I came back as a spooky ghoooost."
>>142553035 >Megaman get's his Adaptor armor that Light hasn't invented yet
yeah they really just gave up on being coherent. I was so hoping to see Super X in his Falcon armor. I know it's not his end all form but I just love the way it looks
Imagine shilling out big bucks on a once-in-a-lifetime crossover with this many famous gigantic IPs Then telling them none of them get to do shit in the story because you don’t want them stealing the spotlight from your corporate mascot Sonikku
>>142553114 >oh you wanna use a life tank? too bad bitch now your rank is fucked >oh you want to get a maverick ability once you beat a boss? What do you think this is? Mega man? Fuck off and get a better score
>>142553059 >>142553082 >Sigma gets hit with an anti-virus in X3 by Zero/Doppler >SOMEHOW comes back (I know Xtreme 2 is canon but I genuinely don't remember a solid explanation how Berkana brought him back)
>>142553096 Cover 3 is my favorite it represents the Reboot as a whole to me, the Sega Sonic world with the Fighters slapped in it, plus at the time Sega was trying to make it so that Classic and Modern were practically sperate universes so a cover that depicts locations from both era's together was a breath of fresh air
>>142552327 To think that this is the end. It was an honor to be on this ride, /co/ bros. And Conductor, thank you for everything, these were good times. And I look forward to the unofficial parts of the ride as well.
>>142553189 >This artist is still seething about the Elf Wars page I'm not surprised but like why would he expect credit for "Zero with thinner legs"?.
>>142553011 Ah yes Cream and Roll the official Emerald-polishers They surely were never ever meant to contribute anything except presenting Sonic’s emeralds to him. Nosiree
>>142553222 Imagine if everyone got power from the Chaos Emeralds and got a super form. NiGHTS, Reala, Vyse, Aika, Fina, Ryu, Momo, Viewiful Joe, the Golden Axe guys, Arthur, Alex Kidd, etc., etc.
>>142553233 Look! It's the real hero of this story! >>142553232 >rest of the event is just him spamming tiger shot and sigma can't do anything but take chip damage until he dies
>>142553233 >rally everyone we’ve recruited >we’ve got to evacuate! THEIR ONLY ROLE IS TO RUN AWAYYYY AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHJAJAJAHAHAHAHA YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS SHIT UP Bravo, Ian!
I think the final act would have made more sense if Sonic and Mega Man went super from the start to fight Sigma-3 while the army took down the giant Sigma that was supplying him power. Drop the whole "chrysalis" twist and just get to the point.
>>142553285 Hope you like it, cause it’ll happen again at the end of Reboot when fighting Dark Gaia. Absolutely retarded. And I don’t absolve Ian of it either, Sega can’t mandate him to write this bad
>>142553374 Yeah, they're on the Lost Hex. Pretty sure everyone on Sonic and Mega Man's worlds is dead now. Sigma said he was finished draining the fused planet's energy.
>>142553392 But you see them here >>142553365 They’re not evacuating any citizens, they’re “evacuating” the people they recruited back to their homeworlds
>>142553404 NONE OF THE HEROES CAN SAVE US NONE OF THE VILLAINS CAN EITHER THERE IS ONLY ONE PERSON... ONE MAN... ONE APEX GOD ULTIMATE BEING THAT CAN STOP THIS
>>142553404 >Bison:....Well at leat I get to take you all with me if we die. >Rock: Wow. You're a dick! >Chun-Li: You have no idea. >Bison: It's not so bad, Chun-Li. At least you get to see your father again!
>>142553454 >laughing as time, space, and reality falls apart and everything is engulfed in the white void then the emptiness of space XANDERCHAD I KNEEL
>>142553430 >>142553454 And here's the rotten cherry on top of this shit cake! At the end of this crossover, it's not a Sega OR a Capcom character that save the day, but Kaminsky's pet terorrist literaly making everything meaningless!
>>142552455 Funny thing is, despite being god of the chickens... he didn't know how to access Giant Palace, the final world of the game. You had to find one of the (mortal) Elder Chickens to get even a hint as to how to get there. https://youtu.be/Mj8b9Hc-3G4?si=0rFX0bDl_LplxPPN&t=16045
I legit think Ian just plain forgot WHERE the battle was taking place. The gray landscape tells me he wasn't to specific when he described the setting to the artist. The whole "Unified World" has been a complete non-factor this whole crossover.
>>142553463 >They’re on the lost hex. Sally was saying they are evacuating the people they recruited. She didn't specify that and are outright saying they want to save as many people of this world as possible.
If you want to write a fanfiction, be my guess, but do it knowing it will be in contradiction of the comic.
>>142553460 They are trying. The point was that an anon was complaining that they were just running away. They are trying to rescue the people of this world, even if they are failing.
>>142553505 She didn't specify that and are outright saying they want to save as many people of this world as possible. how is arthur gonna save anybody, use his rocket boots?
>>142553500 >>142553484 This is the cherry on top. It never even happened! Of course that was obvious it was going to all be undone when Team Dark died. Way to make the ending obvious!
>>142553516 Serious talk, is there ANYBODY who likes 'undoing stuff by time travel' endings? It's even worse at making things pointless than all a dream.
>>142553505 She DID specify that in the panel directly previous. She says everyone must get on the delphinus because “we’ve got to get everybody back to their homeworlds” They’re just running away back to their homeworlds. They didn’t save even a single person because Ian wanted his gary stus to do everything and everyone else to be useless
>>142553577 the fuck does this even imply? that's theres a universe where all these characters exit together naturally or that it's like the new No Zone in the middle of all these univreses? WHAT IS IT!?
>>142553548 >She DID specify that in the panel directly previous. She says everyone must get on the delphinus because “we’ve got to get everybody back to their homeworlds” One doesn't exclude the other. You are just grasping at straw to complain about more stuffs when there is already enough to begin with.
>>142553516 >Sonic has something like two or three (counting the first crossover) conflicting memories now. He's fucked. It's gonna catch up to hime eventually.
>Multiverses >Cosmic Retcons/Time Travel >Crossovers >Split across multiple comic runs >98% of the cast does fuck all This isn't even capeshit yet this fully explains why I don't read capeshit
And that's it! We're done! And tomorrow at 7pm EST, so will Sonic Boom and Mega Man! That's right! We're doing the final issues for both comics as well as the short Razor origin comic!
>>142553584 I'm a bit of Billy fan too but ya gotta face facts, not every game is made with the idea it's gonna be a dedicated franchise, what you should at least hope for is that games like these get re-released so you don't have to buy them on the dwindling in numbers original hardware
>>142553603 Please point out a single person they took from their homeworlds other than the people they recruited? The people they recruited were the only people there from their homeworlds. They’re on the goddamn lost hex, there IS noone there except them. This is something to complain about, Ian made them all useless to suck off his gary stu shitnic again. This is shit, fuck off pretending this is good.
>>142553091 And I want the Demon Castle War for Castlevania, but we just can't have cool events in gameplay form, can we? >>142553114 >>142553135 Yeah, never got this, why would you introduce a new gameplay element, but then cut people's score for using it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-48jUVDpVs&pp=ygULU0YzIE9TVCBXaW4%3D >Vs. Akira Yuki: You have the same spirit as Him. Maybe our next match will end differently.... >Vs. Sigma: You did fall to a mere human, but to the King! >Vs. Sonic: Try Again, Kiddo! >Vs. Eggman: Machines do not substitute earned strength! >Vs. Dural: A machine that copy styles? As it was said to Seth, it's no match for the real thing.
Even if you were to be a fan to all those franchises, how could you like this? Do you actually like having your favorite characters reduced to fighting shit mooks, get wrecked by the real villain, then watch on the sidelines?
>>142553700 The first one had a more clear idea of where its story wanted to go and didn't get bogged down with a ton of character introductions that led to an over-bloated cast of characters that you don't have time to care about do absolutely nothing.
>>142553700 The first had an actual focus on the plot and interactions and didn't clutter the entire thing with stupid glorified cameos. Also Sonic and Mega Man actually saved the days instead of the editor's OC.
>>142553677 >Please point out a single person they took from their homeworlds other than the people they recruited? They never got the time to evacuate anyone, anon. You are not making a point with that.
It doens't change that their intent was not to just run away, but instead, as explicitly said, to stay there until all the remaining people of this world get saved.
That was what their intent was, now go write your fan-fiction.
>>142553696 The Zero series just had a really poorly implemented ranking system in general. It's been a bit since I played them but can you even replay missions in the Zero games to try for a better rank?
>>142553724 Let's ask Kamisnky! >I DIDN'T MAKE ANY MONEY FOR YOU! >I lost money for you! >I lost forty-three million dollars, and I did it deliberately! >I did it deliberately!
>>142553646 at the start of the thread i had 5/10 but I'm lowering it to 4/10 because of how stupid the ending is and reminder that the other Sega X Capcom characters had no reason to be here
>>142553700 The first crossover was better planned out and had room to breathe. Sonic vs Mega Man, Roboticized Masters then Sonic's Friends vs Robot Masters, pretty simple stuff. Worlds Unite was a bloated four way crossover (Sonic, Sonic Boom, Mega Man, Mega Man X) that turned into an even more bloated Sega and Capcom crossover halfway through.
>>142553733 There are no people of that world, they're on the lost hex, and it's only them there, which you've ignored. The only people they mentioned as "evacuating" are, per Sally, the people they directly brought with them from the other worlds (themselves)
They're running away, there wasn't anyone else there but them, they didn't save a single person. This arc was shit and existed only to suck off Sonic some more. Now go cope some more and suck Ian's tiny dick.
>>142553700 The first one actually tried to fuse both franchises and play with their concepts. Actually had characters interacting pretty much constantly. Never one upping either side for being better but showing how they counter balance each other when together like how Rock is so humble and kind around Sonic whos brash and arrogant yet still come together to what's right, meanwhile Eggman and Wily at first seem to be perfect with each other but fall apart do to their self interest on themselves on top of being different levels of threats
>>142553700 Adding to what everyone else said, it was also a blessing in disguise and served as a perfect reason for Archie Sonic to do its cosmic reboot. The old universe could have only gone on for so long without questioning where all of Penders and the other writers' characters went.
Yeah, this crossover definitely gets mogged by the first, but it had some sweet moments, could not get enough of Sigma and especially Xander. Sticks also being thrown into the mix was hilarious af
>>142553890 i mean what interaction are they supposed to havae, Zero doesn't know who built him and Wily hasn't even started working on him at this point.
>>142553906 A vague sense of deju vu or sly aside really would have been enough. You don't need to go full blown "I AM YOUR FATHER!" But give Zero a passing thought of "Something about this guy..."
>>142553770 Crossovers with other IPs are mutual and only run in small books Crossover arcs in their own IPs they've always make sure everyone has something to do. Aquaman's former sidekick was pivotal in defeating Imperiex, for example
>>142553825 Boco, shut the fuck up. Okay? Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter was more meaningful than this. Crossovers can be fun. This wasn't fun.
The Megaman X heroes did nothing of importance. They accomplished as much as Comedy Chimp and the beaver. The mavericks don’t fare much better and are just cannon fodder. Sigma is the only guy who got any spotlight and he’s just a generic big bad who could be replaced with literally anyone. If you had any actual love for the X series you’d be insulted.
>>142553796 >There are no people of that world, There are the whole population of the merged Sonic world and Mega man's world. Lost Hex is only a satellite of the world. are you stupid, or do you enjoy being wrong on purpose.
>The only people they mentioned as "evacuating" "Are all the people remaining on this world" Now go write your fanfiction.
>>142553546 I like it when the Time Travel is established as a part of the threat, and when the person retconning everything destroys themselves in the process. In a less crowded crossover, Xander also would've spent some time behind bars, listening to Sticks, realizing what a goddamned cunt he's been so far.
>>142553546 You can make it work if there's say a sense that the MC is aware of what happened is gonna try to make things work differently this time. That's how Mighty Max ended if memory serves.
>>142553961 Those are on the merged world which was fully absorbed and now gone, they are all on Lost Hex, they are all still on Lost Hex at the end. They are not shown saving anyone and have not even moved from their spots. You're clearly going braindead from Ian's dick in your throat cutting off your oxygen. "All the people remaining" is him literally responding to Sally saying they need to evacuate their own army. Noone else. Sally says they need to evacuate their army, they say they'll help evacuate them.
>>142554007 >NiGHTS, Viewtful Joe, Panzer Dragoon, Arthur and Firebrand...all my fave games at once, teaming up to fight. Simple pleasures.
They didn't do anything. They didn't team up. They didn't interact. They basically stood next too each other on a splash page. It was literally LOOK AT THE THING AND CLAP!
>>142553999 >Those are on the merged world which was fully absorbed and now gone Nothing indicate it was all gone, anon. It's you writing fan fiction again.
> They are not shown saving anyone They are not shown running away on their own through the Genesis portal either. You are not making a point, there.
What we have is them saying they will try to evacuate everyone still alive on the world. Everything else is fanfiction.
>>142554007 Literally just “I recognized the reference and clapped” You are a living stereotype. Red Letter Media has an entire series of videos making fun of you. I would think you were baiting if you weren’t a tripfag.
>>142554040 >What we have is them saying they will try to evacuate everyone still alive on the world.
You're sort of missing the point here. Them saying that is basically mouth service so they can pretend they're looking heroic while standing around being useless. There's nobody to save because the line was purely lip.
boco sounds like the ideal fanboy companies want yet I get this distinct impression he only ever buys shit out of nostalgiafaggotry and never tries anything different
>>142554055 >Them saying that is basically mouth service so they can pretend they're looking heroic while standing around being useless. This might be bad writing, but it remains that anon's statement there>>142553285 >THEIR ONLY ROLE IS TO RUN AWAYYYY Is inaccurate.
>>142554059 That's the fucked up part about all this - Archie's Mega Man run immediately goes down to toilet but hey, it's okay because CONSUUUUUUUUUME CONSUME THE PRODUCT DON'T YOU LOVE SHALLOW CORPORATE MATERIALISM WOOOOOOOOOOOOO YEAH
>>142554119 What's weird is that Boom and Mega Man got cancelled so soon after the crossover that the decision had to have been made before the Worlds Unite issues were even released. Archie KNEW this shit wasn't going to fly but they went ahead with it anyway.
>>142554119 That's another thing, Collide was way better at, it has actual references and Easter eggs to both franchises instead of just showing a thing and moving on
>>142554218 This cross over was the doom. Archie dropped Megaman because of the money sink all this licensing this stupid fucking event brought on it. God DAMN Boco, are you being a moron on purpose?
>>142554248 It actually utilizes the villains properly too. Remember when Sonic got his ass kicked by Bass or when the Yellow Devil fused with Chaos and became a huge threat to both Megaman and Sonic? Meanwhile in WU The Deadly Six are the only guys who are a threat.
It really didn't help that the action was so bogged down by being split up between so many characters too >character does exactly one (1) [uno] thing, then is no longer relevant ever >repeat 9999999999999 times
>>142554360 Penders worst crime was being a prima donna. And in a company that wasn't ruled by gross administrative incompetence, wouldn't have done much damage to it. So, Kaminski.
>>142554360 This was Kaminski’s first major disaster isn’t it? I’m not that familiar with him though, what else did he do wrong aside from World’s Unite?
>>142554360 I mean, if you include the suing Archie for his characters as context to the comics Penders but if you just mean his writing to Kaminski's editing then Paul. Penders writing can be fixed later and retroactively by basically anyone but Pauls editing decisions caused them to not only bleed money but put the writer in a impossible corner for the story to play out
>>142552461 Here's my dumb idea >It's Out of Continuity >Sigma merges the Worlds >Full on merged locations & Time Fuckery. I'm talking about Wood Oak Metro(FF/SoR), Mega Mobotroplis, a separate continent for the fantasy shit(MH, BoF, Golden Axe, GnG) >Time Passes and the Maverick Hunters are apart of G.U.N. In fact quite a few tech & military heroes are.
See I'm straight up going full Sega X Capcom. Need time to think/revise.
>>142554414 Kaminski also requested the original Genesis storyline because he felt the Death Egg's return wasn't a big enough milestone. Don't know how you feel about it, but Ian himself hates it.
WITH MY FINAL WORDS I SWEAR AT KAMINSKI ONE LAST TIME! YOU MONEY BURNING COWARD! COME BACK HERE AND SINK WITH THE SHIP YOU PUT A BUNCH OF GENESIS PORTALS AS HOLES IN!
>>142552856 >>142552862 Why do people like Subspace Emissary so much, it's Kingdom Hearts: Nintendo Edition where everyone is on some generic planet and there's jack squat in the way of character interaction and the OC Donut Steel villain and his army might as well be Xehanort and the Heartless.
>>142555480 Because Classic is (mostly) light-hearted and doesn't take itself super seriously, meaning Wily works in a "Saturday Morning Cartoon Villain" kind of way Sigma is honestly perfectly fine in X1-X3, but with how the setting is trying to take itself more seriously (particularly the supposed conflict between humans and Reploids that basically doesn't really exist until Zero 4), him being the "twist villain" of basically every X game doesn't work as well I've said it before but one of the biggest narrative upswings of the Zero series was that it had a wider variety of villains, both in terms of actually pushing the plot forward independently (Copy X and Elpizo, even if Weil is the technical overarching villain of the subseries) and having a different final boss each game
>>142555605 Probably doesn't help that the majority of his screentime is spent less as a humanoid hunk and more as a virus or a weird amalgamation of metal
It's not fair. In the end, we can yell about Penders, all we want, and rightfully so, but blame should be mostly given to Archie, and Sega as well.
They fucked up with their contracts. They fucked up in court. Sega didn't help them. Then they burned all their money on these crossovers, the straw that broke the camel's back.
Literally all of the shit that had happened would have been avoided if Archie was just simply competent for just ONE SECOND.
None of these characters except Xander were enough to end this. Imagine making a OC more important than all these SEGA and Capcom characters. How did they cope with this?
